The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 39 24 Sep 2001

The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 39 24 Sep 2001
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Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
The Fidonet, Zone 1, Echolist ............................ 2
What has been, will be again? ............................ 2
3. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 5
Americans ................................................ 5
4. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 6
*** GREETINGS FROM THE U.S.S. FIDONEWS *** ............... 6
5. POET'S CORNER ............................................ 7
Nemesis .................................................. 7
6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 8
"JESUS IS WATCHING YOU" .................................. 8
7. OTHER STUFF .............................................. 9
This Week's Holidays ..................................... 9
October Holidays ......................................... 9
8. CLASSIFIED ADS ........................................... 13
Rotating Ads ............................................. 13
9. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 14
Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* .......................... 14
10. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 19
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 19
11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 25
How to Submit an Article ................................. 25
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 27
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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"Most people work hard enough not to get fired and get paid just
enough not to quit."
-George Carlin

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GENERAL ARTICLES
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The Fidonet, Zone 1, Echolist
By Frank Vest

Just some random thoughts. Take them as ideas, suggestions or just
ignore them

The Elist:

While this is a good tool, I have some concerns about it.

1. Why list echos that are not distributed? If you look at the thing,
there are a lot of "place holder" and "Tag holder" entries.
A. This adds a lot of bulk to the Elist.
1. Harder to search the list
B. It robs others of starting an echo that might be viable if
distributed.

This is a dis-service to Fidonet. What if someone generated a list of
thousands of combinations of "Echo Tags" and elisted them? A person
with a computer could do this and I'm surprised it hasn't been
attempted.

2. Why is there a "Volume" listed?
A. How can anyone know what the volume of an echo will be?
1. Estimate the volume?
a. Over what? a week? month? year?
B. Is this a "weapon" that can be used to remove an echo?

In this day and time, an echo can have a volume of 50 messages one
week and 0 for the next four weeks... only to be followed by 100 a
week after that.

Just some things to think about. I'm not kicking the Elist. It is a
good tool to prevent duplicate echos, show what echos are available,
tell who the Moderator is and other facts that help Fidonet Echomail.
On the other hand, it could be used to control echos.

Regards,

Frank

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What has been, will be again?
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308

There is a belief that time is a circle and what has been will be
again. IOW, If it happened in the past, it will happen again in the
future.

FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 3 24 Sep 2001

I'm not sure what the above has to do with what I'm going to write,
but it sure sounded neat. :-)

I'm sitting here thinking about Fidonet, computers, the past, the
future, computer viruses and other such things (that seems to be
normal for me). :-)

I'm not a tech sort of person, but I remember having an old CPM
machine. I graduated from that to a "real" computer (IBM PS/2) shortly
thereafter. When I got to the "big time" of the PS/2, I started
learning about viruses and how they can infect and affect a computer.
With Dos 5.00 as my operating system and me accessing BBS so much, I
was concerned. I took the measures to prevent infection and did my
best to "keep an eye" on the system.

Time went on and along came the likes of Windows, OS/2, Linux and
other such programs and operating systems. Along with these came, of
course, more and stronger viruses.

So, where is this editorial going with all this? I don't know. :-)

Here's a thought

It seems that the more popular the operating system, the more viruses
there are that can affect it. Of course, things like the Internet,
Fidonet and other stuff where many people share and access each
other's systems has helped, I'm sure. I can't say for sure, but I
don't remember CPM having a virus problem. I hear that a virus can't
be written for Linux. OS/2 is supposed to be fairly safe as well.

Ok, so what?

Well, It seems that as new operating systems come into being, or
become popular, there are more viruses written for them. So, here's a
strange thought.

Fidonet programs, as we know, tend to be small. Many are still Dos
based, or have a Dos version. Now, I've not heard of a virus being
written for Dos in a long time. So, is it safe to say that Dos is
virus free? Probably not, but I'd say that the chances of having a new
Dos virus hit your old Dos box is not very likely. :)

With that in mind.... As computers become even more popular, the
internet gains even more use, operating systems evolve and viruses
follow along with this path, there could come a time where a virus
will succeed in stopping the Internet and, maybe, enough computers in
the right places to shut the world down.

Wouldn't it be something if all of us "old Dos" users became the only
systems that didn't get shut down due to a virus? Wouldn't it be
strange to see international powers come to Fidonet and ask for help
in getting information flowing since Fidonet and these old Dos
machines were the only things still running?

<shaking head upon awakening>

FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 4 24 Sep 2001

Wow! What a dream!!..... Or was it? ;-)

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GUEST EDITORIAL
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AMERICANS
[email protected]

Patriotism is a bond that welds us together as one nation.
Freedom is the spine of our constitution.
Justice is the spinal cord of the constitution.
With Freedom and Justice we have Liberty to work, play, worship and
live in the civil manner of our choice. That is the reason so many
come to our shores for freedom and a new way of life. Together all
peoples of this great country will defeat and destroy terrorism. We
MUST stay united and bonded by patriotism, together... for all human
kind! Our sincere thanks to all of the nations of the world that have
pledged their support and sympathies for our, and the world's grave
loss of the WTC. "Stand Tall and Proud", America!

Now a short note from Governor Jim Gilmore:

Dear Friends:
Over the past week and a half, we have all seen, heard and felt the
true spirit of America and Americans. While as a nation we mourn the
tragic loss of so many innocent lives, our character and resolve has
not been broken.

In his speech to a Joint Session of Congress, President Bush said,
"We are a country awakened to danger and called to defend freedom."

And - as a nation - we will rise to the challenge.

We will not live in terror. We will stand united (with all nations
against terrorism), by the strongest and deepest of ties - that of
being an American.

With a singleness of mind and purpose, we will persevere.

Sincerely,
Governor Jim Gilmore

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COMIX IN ASCII
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*** GREETINGS FROM THE U.S.S. FIDONEWS ***

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POET'S CORNER
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Nemesis
By Kay Shapero (1:102/125)

It's called "legwork."

Step by step
Into the past
Winding the thread before you.

From the wreckage to the crash.
From the crash to the plane.
From the plane to the airport

Step by step
Into the past
Winding the thread before you.

Find the one who saw the killer.
Find the one who drove the killer.
Find the one who housed the killer.

Step by step
Into the past
Winding the thread before you.

And at the end
The Minotaur?
Bring your spear.

It's called "legwork".

Copyright Kay Shapero, Sept 11, 2001

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CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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"JESUS IS WATCHING YOU"

A burglar broke into a house one night. He shone his flashlight
around, looking for valuables, and when he picked up a CD player to
place in his sack, a strange, disembodied voice echoed from the dark,

"Jesus is watching you".

He nearly jumped out of his skin, clicked his flashlight off and
froze. When he heard nothing more after a bit, he shook his head,
promised himself a vacation after the next big score, then clicked the
light back on and began searching for more valuables. Just as he
pulled the stereo out so he could disconnect the wires, clear as a
bell he heard

"Jesus is watching you".

Totally rattled, he shone his light around frantically, looking for
the source of the voice. Finally, in the corner of the room, his
flashlight came to rest on a parrot.

"Did you say that"?, he hissed at the parrot.

"Yes", the parrot confessed, and then squawked "I'm just trying to
warn you".

The burglar relaxed. "Warn me, huh" - "Who do you think you are
anyway"?

"Moses", replied the bird. "

Moses"?, the burglar laughed. "What kind of stupid people would name a
parrot "Moses"?.

The bird promptly answered: "The same kind of people that would name
a Rottweiler *Jesus*".

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OTHER STUFF
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This Week's Holidays

Day Holiday
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24.
Constitution Day in Cambodia
Heritage Day in South Africa
Our Lady of Mercedes in Dominican Republic
Republic Day in Tobago
Republic Day in Trinidad and Tobago
Unification of the Kingdom in Saudi Arabia
25
Army Day/Armed Forces Day in Mozambique
Kamarampaka Day in Rwanda
26.
Revolution Day in Yemen
27.
Feast of Finding the New Cross in Ethiopia
French Community Holiday in Belgium
28.
Confucious' Day in Taiwan
Referendum Day in Guinea
29.
Battle of Boqueron in Paraguay
St. Michael's Day in Papua New Guinea
30.
Botswanna Day in Botswanna
Customs Day in Marshall Islands
National Youth Day in Turks & Caicos

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Below are some holidays in October. If you would like to write an
article about one of these holidays and how it is celebrated in your
county, send the article to one of these addresses:

[email protected]
Frank Vest 1:124/6308
Editor 1:1/23

I'll run it during the week that the holiday occurs.

October Holidays

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Day Holiday
1
Armed Forces Day in Korea, South
Cyprus Independence Day in Cyprus
Independence Day in Nigeria
Independence Day/Tuvalu Day in Tuvalu
FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 10 24 Sep 2001

National Day in China
National Day in Nigeria
Regency Exchange in San Marino
2
Anniversary of Guinean Independence/Independence Day in Guinea
Mahatma Gandhi's Birthday in India
Republic Day in Guinea
3
Francisco Morazan's Birthday/Morazan Day in Honduras
National Foundation Day in Korea, South
4
Independence Day in Lesotho
5
Constitution Day in Vanuatu
Republic Day/Anniversary of Proclamation of the Republic in
Portugal
6
Armed Forces Day in Egypt
Labor Day in Australia
United Nations Day in Barbados
7
Day of Goodwill in Namibia
Merchant Holiday in Antigua and Barbuda
8
Battle of Angamos in Peru
Columbus Day in United States
Mother's Day in Malawi
Thanksgiving in Canada
9
Army Day in Azerbaijan
Independence Day in Uganda
Independence of Guayaquil in Ecuador
Korean Alphabet Day in Korea, South
Leif Erikson Day in United States
10
Druger Day in South Africa
Fiji Day in Fiji
Health and Sports Day in Japan
Moi Day in Kenya
Oklahoma Historical Day in United States (Oklahoma)
11
Anniversary of the Beginning of the Wars of Independence in Cuba
12
Battle of Sarandi in Uruguay
Columbus Day in Argentina
Columbus Day in Argentina
Columbus Day (Dia de la Raza) in Honduras
Columbus Day (traditionally) in United States
Columbus Day/Dia de la Raza in Costa Rica
Day of Liberation from the French in Laos
Dia de la Raza in Colombia
Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Mexico
Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Venezuela
Dia de la Raza/Discovery of America in Uruguay
Discovery Day in Bahamas
Independence Day/National Day? in Equatorial Guinea
FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 11 24 Sep 2001

National Day in Spain
Our Lady Aparecida Day in Brazil
13
St. Edward's Day in United Kingdom
14
Children's White Sunday in Western Samoa
National Day in Yemen Democratic Republic
National Day/Revolution Day 1963 in Yemen Arab Republic
Petkouden in Bulgaria
Svetitskhovloba in Georgia
15
Evacuation Day in Tunisia
Heroes' Day in Jamaica
16
National Boss Day in United States
17
Columbus Day in Turks & Caicos
Dessaline's Death Anniversary in Haiti
Feast of St. Margaret Alacoque in Saint Lucia
Hurricane Thanksgiving Day in Virgin Islands
18
Independence Day in Azerbaijan
20
Anniversary of the 1944 Revolution in Guatemala in Guatemala
Kenyatta Forces Day in Kenya
Revolution Day in Guatemala
21
Armed Forces Day/Army Day in Honduras
Compact Day in Marshall Islands
Revolution Day in Somalia
St. Ursula's Day in British Virgin Islands
22
Labor Day in New Zealand
23
Chulalongkorn's Day in Thailand
Liberation Day in Egypt
Paris Peace Agreements on Cambodia in Cambodia
Republic Day in Hungary
St. George's Day (Giorgoba) in Georgia
24
Independence Day in Zambia
Suez Victory Day in Egypt
United Nations Day in Micronesia
25
Constitution Day in Lithuania
Independence Day/Republic Day in Kazakhstan
Taiwan Restoration Day in Taiwan
Thanksgiving in Grenada
26
Gospel Day Pageant in Cook Islands
National Day in Austria
27
Independence Day in St. Vincent & the Grenadines
Independence Day in Turkmenistan
28
Day of the 1956 Revolution in Hungary
FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 12 24 Sep 2001

Establishment of Independence Czechoslovakia/Day of the Republic
in Czech Republic
Ochi Day in Cyprus
Ochi Day in Greece
29
Bank Holiday in Ireland
Republic Day in Turkey
30
Birthday of HM the King in Cambodia
31
Halloween in United States
Nevada Day in United States (Nevada)
Reformation Day in Slovenia
Samhain in many countries

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CLASSIFIED ADS
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Rotating ads

As a service of the Fidonews, I am prepared to offer rotating ads for
those that provide services to Fidonet such as Mail Hubs, Gateways,
Fidonet via Internet and such.

How this works:

1. Create an ad following the guidelines for the Fidonews.
2. Keep it short and to the point.
3. Put contact and other needed information in the ad.
4. Send it to Frank Vest as a file attach.
A. E-Mail "[email protected]
B. Netmail "Frank Vest - 1:124/6308

I will put the ad in a pool and use a program each week to
automatically rotate the ads into the Fidonews.

Please! If you stop offering service or need to change your ad,
contact me! This is very important to keep the ads current.

I'm doing this on a trial basis. If it gets to be a problem, I will
have to discontinue the service. I can make no promise of how often
your ad will be in the Fidonews. This will depend on how many ads I
have to rotate through.

As always in Fidonet, I make no guaranties. :)

Regards,

Frank Vest - Fidonews Editor

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FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 14 24 Sep 2001

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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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*Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

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BBS Software
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BBBS Home Page
[email protected]
http://www.bbbs.net/

ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
[email protected]
http://www.elebbs.com/

Hermes II Project (Mac)
[email protected]
http://www.hermesii.org/

Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
[email protected]
http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

Mystic BBS
http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

Nexus Bulletin Board System
[email protected]
http://www.nexusbbs.net/

RemoteAccess Central
Bruce Morse
[email protected]
http://www.rapro.com/

Spitfire BBS
Buffalo Creek Software
[email protected]
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

Synchronet BBS
[email protected]
http://www.synchro.net

Telegard BBS
[email protected]
http://www.telegard.net/

Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
http://www.santronics.com

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Door Software
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Bentstone Capabilities Group
[email protected]
http://www.srupc.com/mall

Jibben Software
[email protected]
http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

JNS Software Door Games
Rusty Johnson
[email protected]
304-733-0113
http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

PC Pursuits
[email protected]
(301)240-6653
http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

S and T Software
Mark Bappe
[email protected]
(770)788-6843
http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

Shinning Star BBS Doors
[email protected]
http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

Sunrise Door Software
Al Lawerence
[email protected]
(404)256-9518
http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

The Brainex System
[email protected]
http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

Trade Wars Door Game
[email protected]
http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
1:299/110

Vagabond Software
Bryan Turner
[email protected]
http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
1:124/7013

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Mail Tossers
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FMail Support
[email protected]
http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
2:280/1076

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Mailer Software
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FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
Definite Solutions
[email protected]
http://www.defsol.se/

BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

Plantinum Express for Wildcat
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
http://www.santronics.com

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Fidonet via Internet Software
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Argus
RITLABS
[email protected]
373-2-246889
http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
2:469/84

BinkD
[email protected]
http://2f.ru/binkd/

Fidogate
[email protected]
http://www.fidogate.org/

Fidonet to Internet Mailer
Bo Bendtsen
[email protected]
http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

GiGo Software
http://www.gigo.com/

Internet Rex
[email protected]
http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

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TransX
Multiboard Communications Inc.
[email protected]
http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
1:2401/305

TransNet
[email protected]
http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

Watergate
[email protected]
http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Point Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
http://www.defsol.se/

JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
http://www.jetsys.de/

APoint
http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

CrossPoint ("Original" version)
http://www.crosspoint.de
http://www.apoint-mail.de

CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
http://www.openxp.com (English)
http://www.openxp.de (German)

CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
http://www.xp2.de

WinPoint95
http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
http://www.happyarts.de/xp

Terminate Terminal
http://www.terminate.com

PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

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Other Software, Utillities and such
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F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

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BGFAX Home Page
http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
http://www.gwinn.com

NetModem for Windows
http://www.allensoftware.com

Com/IP
<http://pcmicro.com/comip

Husky - Portable Fido Software
http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

cFos Fossil driver
http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

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Dead Links
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MBSE BBS for Linux
http://freezer-burn.org/mbse/

Renegade BBS
http://www.egate.net/renegade/

Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
http://lord.darktech.org/

BeeMail Home Page
http://www.bise.tzo.com/beemail/

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Company/Author
Contact E-mail
Contact Telephone
Internet address (if available)
Fido style address (if available)

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

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[email protected] will automatically route to the
FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 21 24 Sep 2001

appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature.

v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
18/600 | Jerry Gause | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
1:134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-39 Page 22 24 Sep 2001

2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BN IFCICO | ??? | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
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Nodelist Stats

INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.264
File has a Date Stamp of : 9/20/2001
File Size (uncompressed) : 1209.33 KBytes.

The Input Nodelist file has 11154 Nodes in it
and a total of 14231 non-comment entries.

The list has 6 Zones listed.
67 Region Coordinators listed.
499 Network Hosts listed.
766 Hubs listed.
375 DOWN Nodes listed.
844 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
520 HOLD Nodes listed.

Administrative overhead = 1338 ( 12.00 %)
PRIVATE NODES overhead = 844 ( 7.57 %)

Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
9600 = 9573 ( 85.83 %)
(HST's = 206 or 2.15 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(PEP's = 16 or 0.17 % " " " " )
(MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
(HAY's = 3 or 0.03 % " " " " )
(V32's = 5423 or 56.65 % " " " " )
(V32B's = 682 or 7.12 % " " " " )
(V42's = 5138 or 53.67 % " " " " )
(V42B's = 736 or 7.69 % " " " " )
2400 = 114 ( 1.02 %)
1200 = 8 ( 0.07 %)
300 = 498 ( 4.46 %)

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F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4367
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 11
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 12
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XP Seadog 7
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XR Opus 1.03 78
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XW Fido >12M 418
Tabby
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 4724
Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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CrashMail capable = 4051 ( 36.32 %)
MailOnly Nodes = 5742 ( 51.48 %)
Listed-Only Nodes = 844 ( 7.57 %)

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