The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 18, Number 37             10 Sep 2001
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    |(_Fidonet_)       (jm)    |                    -- JOSEPH PULITZER   |
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        Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                       Table of Contents
    1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
    2. TOP STORIES  ..............................................  2
       Kind of a sad Fidonews  ...................................  2
    3. REGIONAL NEWS  ............................................  3
       Sadly, from Region 19  ....................................  3
       "Egorkin's funeral"  ......................................  3
    4. EDITORIAL  ................................................  5
       I guess it's about normal?  ...............................  5
    5. COMIX IN ASCII  ...........................................  6
       No Bull  ..................................................  6
    6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES  ......................................  7
       The Door  .................................................  7
       like, ..... just about every day  .........................  7
       What'd he do?  ............................................  7
       Pray for me! :)  ..........................................  7
    7. OTHER STUFF  ..............................................  9
       This week's Calander  .....................................  9
    8. CLASSIFIED ADS  ........................................... 10
       Rotating Ads  ............................................. 10
    9. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................................. 11
       Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*  .......................... 11
    10. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ..................................... 16
       Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 16
    11. CORRECTIONS  ............................................. 22
       Corrections to Fidonews Volume 18, Number 36 on 03 Sep  ... 22
    12. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 23
       How to Submit an Article  ................................. 23
       Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 24
       Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 25
    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 1                   10 Sep 2001


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                            FOOD FOR THOUGHT
    =================================================================

    "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a
    chance to get its pants on."
    -- Winston Churchill

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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 2                   10 Sep 2001


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                               TOP STORIES
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                            Kind of a sad Fidonews
                                By Frank Vest
                                [email protected]

    Yes, it's kind of a sad Fidonews.

     There are two articles that relate the demise of Fidonet Nodes and
    Nets. One relates to a Node that was forced to quit some years back
    due to things beyond control. The other is kind of a sad reflection of
    the current times in Fidonet.

     Let's not lose heart in this. While there are those that leave us,
    that is a way of life. Let's be happy for the one's that are still
    here and try our best to keep ourselves here. For sure... as sure as
    in life... there will be those who leave us. We don't want to see them
    go, but they will go just the same.

     As is shown by the story of Music Drain BBS, the loss of a BBS and
    Fidonet Node can be turned into something positive. A gathering of
    Sysops to remember a lost one. A chance to meet and chat, face to
    face, with those that we only know from messages. One BBS created a
    "family". The loss of that BBS wasn't enough to destroy that "family".
    The family still lives and the lost one is rememberd. A sadness, yes,
    but a positve as well.

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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 3                   10 Sep 2001


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                              REGIONAL NEWS
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                            Sadly, from Region 19
                   Taken from a message by Steve Quarrella
                                  1:393/9005

    Net 380 is gone.  I get some disconnects there, one FAX machine, and a
    BBS without a mailer.  I've got a note out to the sysop of that BBS,
    but I admit that I'm not optimistic.

    Net 147 may be gone.  The NC has a note on his web site that his
    system is dead. One other system has a FAX machine online, another is
    definitely gone, and another is RNA (Ring No Answer).

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                             "Egorkin's "funeral"
                             From : Max Krasnikov
                                 2:5045/57.18
                          (Tuesday, 28 August 2001)
                         Minor editing by Frank Vest

    Vladivostok. Summer. It's a time, when all the people strive to go as
    far as possible to islands, sea, China, Japan... Due to this tendency
    a sharp comedown in the trafic is feeling, which resolves itself into
    40Kb per day ... e.g. just nothing... However, people don't diverge
    the traditions, so 23-th August, by plan, all got around the square
    near the sea front (Naberezhnaja) by the "elephants" to celebrate
    "Egorkin's "funeral"", to catch those who was not able to be hunt down
    by netmail, to solve small net problems, and just to have a bock, meet
    in real those who converse by fido... Generally it could be named most
    likely fidotap rather then sysopp...

    A little bit hystory: 23-th August is a kind of significant date for
    us, 4-5 years ago, in the time of modems at 2400, a man with the name
    Egor Nikolaev (2:5045/9) worked as administrator at a big Vladivostok'
    restaurant-hotel. He had a node with address 2:5045/9. He occupied 3
    phone lines for the node, and he was a big distributing node in the
    net. He had a BBS named Music Drain, which gathered people from all
    over the Vladivostok in the quiet evenings and nights. There people
    were picking up each other, rubbing shoulders with each other, making
    arrangements... at that time such BBS was a basic source of
    information and gossip for computer-modem oriented people, Internet
    was not yet online, even fido was not that much common as it's now. So
    one fine day a paper from the Phone Central came to the management of
    the restaurant. So to say, it was needed to register the units on the
    phone line, otherwise - amercement and all in the same vein... the
    management, of course, asked Egor to clear away all the modems from
    the lines... In fact, it came to close not only the node, but the BBS
    also, which was for 3 years a retreat for a lot of fidos and just
    users... This was just a killing decision for him, he had to kill his
    child with his own hands... And the last days of the stantion's life
    he gathered all to the funeral of Music Drain BBS, it was 23-th August
    ... Since that time year in year out 23-th August is the Commemoration
    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 4                   10 Sep 2001


    Day of Music Drain BBS... Everything begins as usually by the
    "elephants" and ends in the underground club BSB...

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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 5                   10 Sep 2001


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                                EDITORIAL
    =================================================================

                            I guess it's about normal?
                                By Frank Vest
                                1:124/6308(.1)

     Last week was a holiday in the U.S.A. and some other countries as
    well. I guess it's just normal that on holidays, most people have
    nothing better to do than send articles to the Fidonews. After all,
    the lakes and recreation areas are packed and the battle to get to
    them is terrible. There's nothing open to go do. Many are on vacation
    on these weeks. What else is there to do other than write articles for
    the Fidonews and messages in the Fidonet echos?

     Last week I was thrilled to have so many articles sent in. It was
    great! There was news from all around Fidonet and beyond. Most of the
    articles were from you... not me. It was beautiful.

     Let's not forget that the Fidonews and Fidonet are here every week.
    Not just holidays or vacation time.

     I realize as well as anyone that jobs and family come first. There is
    always something to do and vacations are important to us all for a
    "break in the routine". Let just not forget that Fidonet is part of
    our family and the Fidonews is important to Fidonet.

     It's understandable when some things come before Fidonet and the
    Fidonews, but sad when Fidonet and the Fidonews are put on the bottom
    of the list. :(

     Thanks to all of you who send in articles. Thanks as well to all of
    you who read the articles and write messages in Fidonet.

    Regards,

     Frank Vest - Editor

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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 6                   10 Sep 2001


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                             COMIX IN ASCII
    =================================================================

                                   No Bull

             (___)             (___)
             (o o)             (o o)
      /-------\ /       /-------\ /
     / |     ||O       / |  O~ ||O
    *  ||,---||       *  ||,---||
       ^^    ^^          ^^    ^^
        A Bull       A-bomb-in-a-bull     No-bull


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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 7                   10 Sep 2001


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                           CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
    =================================================================

                                   The Door
                  From: Warren Bonner <[email protected]>

    Phil went to apply for a job. After filling out all of his
    applications, he waited anxiously for the outcome. The
    employer read all his applications and said,
    "We have an opening for people like you."

    "Oh, great," he said, "What is it?"

    "It's called the door!"

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

                       like, ..... just about every day
                  From: Warren Bonner <[email protected]>

     My wife and I were lunching at a sidewalk cafe in Huntington Beach,
    CA.

      Our waitress looked like a real surfer girl - athletic with a great
    tan and blond hair.  Mulling over the menu, my wife asked her if the
    roast beef was rare.   The waitress gave us a long blank look, then
    replied, "Well, no...... we have it, like, ..... just about every
    day."

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                                What'd he do?
                  From: Warren Bonner <[email protected]>

     It was the end of the day when a cop parked his police van in front
    of the station. As he gathered his equipment, his K-9 partner was
    barking and he saw a little boy staring in at him.

    "Is that a dog you got back there?" the little boy asked.

    "It sure is," The  cop replied.

     Puzzled, the boy looked at him and then towards the back of the van.
    Finally he said, "What'd he do?"

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

                               Pray for me! :)

    One Sunday in a Midwest city, a young child was "acting up" during the
    morning worship hour. The parents did their best to maintain some
    sense of order in  the pew but were losing the battle. Finally,  the
    father picked the little fellow  up and walked  sternly up  the aisle
    on his way out.  Just before reaching the safety of the foyer, the
    little called loudly to the congregation, "Pray for me! Pray for me!"
    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 8                   10 Sep 2001


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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 9                   10 Sep 2001


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                               OTHER STUFF
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                             This week's Calander
    Day           Event
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    10.
         Gibraltar National Day in Gibraltar
         Independence Day in Guinea-Bissau
         St. George's Caye Day in Belize
    11.
         Anniversary of the Death of Qaid-i-Azam in Pakistan
         Coptic New Year in Egypt
         Ethiopian New Year in Ethiopia
         La Diana Nacional de Catalunya/Catalan Region Bank Holiday in
         Spain
         Liberation Day in Micronesia (Kosrae, Pohnpei)
    12.
         Amilcar Cabral's Birthday in Guinea-Bissau
         Defender's Day in United States (Maryland)
         National Day in Cape Verde
         Revolution Day in Ethiopia
    13.
         Barry Day in United States
    15.
         Independence Day in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras
         and Nicaragua
         Our Lady of the Seven Sorrows in Slovakia
         Respect for the Aged Day in Japan
    16.
         Independence and Constitution Day in Papua New Guinea
         Independence Day in Mexico
         Ordino in Andorra

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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 10                  10 Sep 2001


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                             CLASSIFIED ADS
    =================================================================

                                 Rotating ads


     As a service of the Fidonews, I am prepared to offer rotating ads for
    those that provide services to Fidonet such as Mail Hubs, Gateways,
    Fidonet via Internet and such.

     How this works:

    1. Create an ad following the guidelines for the Fidonews.
    2. Keep it short and to the point.
    3. Put contact and other needed information in the ad.
    4. Send it to Frank Vest as a file attach.
      A. E-Mail "[email protected]
      B. Netmail "Frank Vest - 1:124/6308

     I will put the ad in a pool and use a program each week to
    automatically rotate the ads into the Fidonews.

     Please! If you stop offering service or need to change your ad,
    contact me! This is very important to keep the ads current.

    I'm doing this on a trial basis. If it gets to be a problem, I will
    have to discontinue the service. I can make no promise of how often
    your ad will be in the Fidonews. This will depend on how many ads I
    have to rotate through.

     As always in Fidonet, I make no guaranties. :)

    Regards,

     Frank Vest - Fidonews Editor

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    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 11                  10 Sep 2001


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                        FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
    =================================================================

                       *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 BBS Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    BBBS Home Page
    [email protected]
    http://www.bbbs.net/

    ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
    [email protected]
    http://www.elebbs.com/

    Hermes II Project (Mac)
    [email protected]
    http://www.hermesii.org/

    Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
    [email protected]
    http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

    Mystic BBS
    http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

    Nexus Bulletin Board System
    [email protected]
    http://www.nexusbbs.net/

    RemoteAccess Central
    Bruce Morse
    [email protected]
    http://www.rapro.com/

    Spitfire BBS
    Buffalo Creek Software
    [email protected]
    http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

    Synchronet BBS
    [email protected]
    http://www.synchro.net

    Telegard BBS
    [email protected]
    http://www.telegard.net/

    Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
    Santronics Inc.
    [email protected]
    (305)248-3204
    http://www.santronics.com

    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 12                  10 Sep 2001


    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Door Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Bentstone Capabilities Group
    [email protected]
    http://www.srupc.com/mall

    Jibben Software
    [email protected]
    http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

    JNS Software Door Games
    Rusty Johnson
    [email protected]
    304-733-0113
    http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

    PC Pursuits
    [email protected]
    (301)240-6653
    http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

    S and T Software
    Mark Bappe
    [email protected]
    (770)788-6843
    http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

    Shinning Star BBS Doors
    [email protected]
    http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

    Sunrise Door Software
    Al Lawerence
    [email protected]
    (404)256-9518
    http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

    The Brainex System
    [email protected]
    http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

    Trade Wars Door Game
    [email protected]
    http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
    1:299/110

    Vagabond Software
    Bryan Turner
    [email protected]
    http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
    1:124/7013

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Mail Tossers
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 13                  10 Sep 2001


    FMail Support
    [email protected]
    http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
    2:280/1076

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                               Mailer Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
    Definite Solutions
    [email protected]
    http://www.defsol.se/


    BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
    http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

    Plantinum Express for Wildcat
    Santronics Inc.
    [email protected]
    (305)248-3204
    http://www.santronics.com

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                        Fidonet via Internet Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Argus
    RITLABS
    [email protected]
    373-2-246889
    http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
    2:469/84

    BinkD
    [email protected]
    http://2f.ru/binkd/

    Fidogate
    [email protected]
    http://www.fidogate.org/

    Fidonet to Internet Mailer
    Bo Bendtsen
    [email protected]
    http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

    GiGo Software
    http://www.gigo.com/

    Internet Rex
    [email protected]
    http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

    Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
    http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 14                  10 Sep 2001


    TransX
    Multiboard Communications Inc.
    [email protected]
    http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
    1:2401/305

    TransNet
    [email protected]
    http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

    Watergate
    [email protected]
    http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Point Software
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
    http://www.defsol.se/

    JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
    http://www.jetsys.de/

    APoint
    http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
    http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

    CrossPoint ("Original" version)
    http://www.crosspoint.de
    http://www.apoint-mail.de

    CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
    http://www.openxp.com (English)
    http://www.openxp.de (German)

    CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
    http://www.xp2.de

    WinPoint95
    http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

    The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
    http://www.happyarts.de/xp

    Terminate Terminal
    http://www.terminate.com

    PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
    http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                     Other Software, Utillities and such
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
    http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

    FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 15                  10 Sep 2001


    BGFAX Home Page
    http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

    SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
    http://www.gwinn.com

    NetModem for Windows
    http://www.allensoftware.com

    Com/IP
    <http://pcmicro.com/comip

    Husky - Portable Fido Software
    http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

    cFos Fossil driver
    http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Dead Links
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    MBSE BBS for Linux
    http://freezer-burn.org/mbse/

    Renegade BBS
    http://www.egate.net/renegade/

    Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
    http://lord.darktech.org/

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      10/3     @ Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
      10/345   @ Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
      18/500   @ Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
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     103/401   @ Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
     105/8     @ Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
     105/72    @ Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
     106/1     @ Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 128k  | ???
     106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
     106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
     107/453   @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
     1:134/11  @ Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                   aDSL, 60 | n/c
     138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
     140/1     @ Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
     142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
     167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
     167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
     218/109   @ Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
     220/10    | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
     229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
     229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
     229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
     250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
     250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
     250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
     261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
     280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
     297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
     323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
     342/3     @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
     360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
     395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkD,FTP      | CABLE | n/c
     379/1     @ Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
     379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
     393/9005  | Steve Quarrella  |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ???   | n/c
     395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
     396/45    | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr
     396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
    2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
    2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
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    2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
    2604/104   @ Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
    2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
    3613/1275  | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
    3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
    3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
    3651/9     @ Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
    3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Zone 2     |
      20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
      37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
     201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
     211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BN IFCICO      | ???   | n/c
     221/360   @ Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
     236/205   @ Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
     280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     280/1601  @ Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
     280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
     280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
     292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
     292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
     292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
     292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
     301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
     332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     335/534   @ Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
     335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
     341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
     344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     346/3     @ Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     400/558   | Vlad Hrusca       | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
     465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
     469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
     469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
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     480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
     550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
    2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
    2411/413   @ Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
    2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
    2446/301   @ Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
    2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
    2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    3830/10    | Matt Bedynek      | FTP, BinkP     | 100Mb | n/c
    5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5020/238    | Sergey Gubanov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
    5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
    5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
    5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Zone 3
     633/260   @ Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
     640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
     712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
     774/605   @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Zone 4
     801/161   @ Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
     902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     905/100   | Fabian Gervan     | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k  | n/c
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Zone 6
      65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
     653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
     654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
     654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

    --
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    Corrections to Fidonews Volume 18, Number 36 on 03 Sep 2001

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    article *WAS NOT* written by Lesley-Dee Dylan.

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                                Nodelist Stats

     INPUT NODELIST FILE      : NODELIST.250
     File has a Date Stamp of : 9/7/2001
     File Size (uncompressed) : 1215.43 KBytes.

     The Input Nodelist file  has 11217 Nodes in it
     and a total of  14303 non-comment entries.

     The list has     6 Zones listed.
                     68 Region Coordinators listed.
                    505 Network Hosts listed.
                    773 Hubs listed.
                    373 DOWN Nodes listed.
                    838 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
                    523 HOLD Nodes listed.

     Administrative overhead = 1352 ( 12.05 %)
     PRIVATE NODES overhead  = 838 (  7.47 %)

     Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
                 9600 =   9616 (  85.73 %)
                       (HST's =  210 or   2.18 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                       (CSP's =    2 or   0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                       (PEP's =   16 or   0.17 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (MAX's =    0 or   0.00 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (HAY's =    3 or   0.03 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (V32's = 5444 or  56.61 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (V32B's =  698 or   7.26 % "       "    "     "   )
                       (V42's = 5153 or  53.59 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (V42B's =  755 or   7.85 % "       "    "     "   )
                 2400 =    113 (  1.01 %)
                 1200 =      8 (  0.07 %)
                  300 =    505 (  4.50 %)

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     XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             4412
                     Frontdoor  2.02+
                     Dutchie 2.90c
                     Binkleyterm >2.1
                     D'Bridge <1.3
                     TIMS
    --------------------------------------
     XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                11
                     Dutchie 2.90b
    --------------------------------------
     XC              Opus 1.1                       13
    --------------------------------------
     XP              Seadog                          7
    --------------------------------------
     XR              Opus 1.03                      78
    --------------------------------------
     XW              Fido >12M                     414
                     Tabby
    --------------------------------------
     XX              D'Bridge 1.30               4747
                     Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
    --------------------------------------

     CrashMail capable =   4112 ( 36.66 %)
     MailOnly Nodes    =   5749 ( 51.25 %)
     Listed-Only Nodes =    851 (  7.59 %)

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