The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 33 13 Aug 2001

The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 33 13 Aug 2001
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Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
A WeIrD WaY tO Do MaIl :) ................................ 2
3. FIDONET CURRENT EVENTS ................................... 4
To the nodes of Net850, Darwin, NT, Australia ............ 4
4. FIDONET NOTICES .......................................... 5
More changes in Filebone.na .............................. 5
5. EDITOR'S CORNER .......................................... 6
How the Snooze is produced ............................... 6
6. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 9
Owls ..................................................... 9
7. RECIPES .................................................. 10
BBQ Sauce ................................................ 10
8. POET'S CORNER ............................................ 11
Are There No More? ....................................... 11
9. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 12
God's Children ........................................... 12
The Top 15 Mixed Drinks for Techies ...................... 13
10. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 14
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 14
11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 20
How to Submit an Article ................................. 20
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 21
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 22
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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I've learned- that it takes years to build up trust, and
only suspicion, not proof, to destroy it.
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GENERAL ARTICLES
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A WeIrD WaY tO Do MaIl :)
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308(.1)

You can bet that _if_ there is a way to do something with a computer,
someone in Fidonet has done it.... especially if it's *not* "normal".
:)

As I believe I wrote in an article earlier, I have set up a small
peer to peer LAN in my house. There are four computers connected to
it. This will deal with the BBS system and my personal system that I
"Point" off of.

I've wanted to use the LAN to handle mail to and from my Point since
I first got the LAN going. I know there are many ways to do this, but
I'll share how I did it just in case it might help someone.

The BBS runs on a Dos box. It does ok with that and handles the LAN
fairly well. The one problem I have had is that if I access the Dos
box from the other systems, the Dos box will lock the next time
Frontdoor exits for any reason. :( This ended the idea of just
copying files to and from the Dos box. Since I have my registered copy
of Internet Rex, I thought of running a second copy of it on the Point
machine and doing the Point mail that way, but there's that locking
problem again. The copy would be to and from the Dos box. :(

Here' the way I'm doing the mail to/from my Point with PPoint;

In PPoint, remove the lines in the "mailer.bat" file. Leave the file
as an empty shell. or put some "echo" commands in there with smart
sayings if you wish... whatever... just don't let it call Binkley to
poll for mail. When you start PPoint, use the /P option to force it to
poll for mail on start up.

I know that sounds dumb, but there is a method to my madness. :)

In Irex, add your Point address in the Node Manager. Have Irex toss
to a directory and from a directory. In the configure portion of each,
put the inbound directory and outbound directory path for each
respectively. Make sure you put a trailing backslash.

In my setup, viewing from the Dos box (BBS machine), PPoint's inbound
is g:\ppoint\in\ and the outbound is g:\ppoint\out\

What happens:

When PPoint is started, it polls for mail (the \P option). If there
is any mail in the inbound, it is tossed from the "in" directory for
PPoint and any outbound mail is tossed to the "out" directory for Irex
to pick up. There's no accessing the Dos box and, therefore, no
lockups. :)

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When Irex runs, any mail in PPoint's outbound directory is picked up
and placed in your mailer's inbound and any mail for your point is
placed in PPoint's inbound directory. Irex also clears the files in
the "out" directory so that there are no dupes. PPoint takes care of
the "in" directory.

When you finish reading your mail, you can run a "poll" (now you
should understand why the "mailer.bat" was edited to an empty file :)
and any replies you have made will be tossed to the "out" directory
for Irex to pick up on it's next run and if there is any new mail in
the "in" directory since your last poll, it will be processed for you
to read/reply.

Yes, it's a strange and weird way to do it, but it is working so far.
:-))

As with all things Fido, this is just how I do it. YMMV and I give no
guarantees that it will work for you. :)

Have fun in Fidonet,

Frank

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FIDONET CURRENT EVENTS
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To the nodes of Net850, Darwin, NT, Australia.

Dear Rob,

Please be on the lookout for our NC. He absconded from his digs last
Saturday (August 4th), and is believed to be headed for Darwin, NT,
over the next 2 weeks.

We have done our best to warn him to be wary of pistol-packin' Toyota
tray-back utility drivers, with at least two tourist scalps on their
belt, but, the NC is such a friendly type that we are very much
concerned for his well-being.

Look for a grey-haired old fart sitting astride a machine (BMW
K1200RS) that's all black glossy paint, with legs splayed around a
huge chromed engine. Of course you may only just see the fringes of
grey under the helmet. Photo is available, if ID is required.

We miss him terribly, already.

Yours faithfully,
Net640 sysops.

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FIDONET NOTICES
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More changes in Filebone.na
From: Janis Kracht
Prism bbs (1:2320/38)

* Forwarded from FILE_MOVERS by Janis Kracht

Hello to all :)

Next week's issue (August 12th, 2001) of filebone.na will only show
true non-filegate areas, such as the DDS fdn. All other inactive or
dead FDNs which have been listed in the past but not in recent issuses
of filebone.na, naturally will not be listed. It will be a very short
list.

Filebone.na will be discontinued after next week's release since I
will be removing the FileGate FDNs from the filebone distribution.

All HUBs therefore are encouraged to change their update document
_now_ to filegate.zxx.

Filegate.zxx will contain all FDNs including the DDS distribution, as
it has for the last several weeks.

Thanks!
Janis

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EDITOR'S CORNER
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How the Snooze is produced
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308(.1)

In the Fidonews Echo, I got into a conversation that led me to try to
explain how the Fidonews is produced. It was suggested that I publish
my explanation. I'm not sure how well I've explained the procedure,
but here it is. :-)

Maybe I should write an article on how the Fidonews is produced. :-))

This might be a long version, but....;

When Warren was Editor, I asked him for a copy of the program used to
create the Fidonews. He supplied the program and related batch file.
After looking at it and trying to figure it out with Warren's help, I
decided that there had to be a better way. I'm not condemning the
author of the batch file since I understand it was written in a hurry
due ot the death of Doug Myers and the fact that Doug didn't really
pass on the program. The batch file and other stuff was put together
in a hurry from bits and pieces. No blame implied towards anyone. It
just happened.

The program that actually "produces" the Fidonews is called
"Makenews.exe". It's old and has some quirks to it. I'll not get into
all of them. Let's just say that it's picky. :)

I sat down to write a new batch file to use with the "makenews
program" with the intent of helping Warren and making the job of
production easier. The batch file started simple and I thought it
would take a week or two. Some two months later I finally got a
workable copy to Warren for testing. :-))

About a month later, it was going pretty well and I had most of the
bugs worked out. I'm still playing with it. :) The process is
something like this:

Runews.bat is the batch file that, along with the "makenews" program,
does the bulk of the work. When started, the batch file asks for the
month in three letters (Jan, Feb... and so on). Then it asks for the
day in two digits (01 ..31). Then the issue number (01 ... 52). It
will accept any input, but the Editor is assumed to be smart enough to
know that Jak isn't a month and no month has more than 31 days... etc.
:-)

Then there is a menu displayed with some options. The Fidonews Editor
can run an editor program to edit the article submissions. Test
received article for errors that the "makenews" program will not
accept. Fix most of the errors automatically. Make the Fidonews and
review it... after which there is an option to accept the produced
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Fidonews or reject it and go back to edit or fix articles. Hatch the
Fidonews if the production was good and the Fidonews Editor is ready.
Post the fidonews if the Fidonews Editor is ready. Of course, there
is a "Quit" option too. :-)

The process goes something like this;

Received article(s) are placed in a "fix" directory (c:\fidonews\fix).
There are two other directories for articles that are important... The
"input" and "repeat" directories where error free and repeated
articles are put.

The "Test" option is chosen and all the files in the "fix", "input",
"repeat" and root "fidonews" directory are copied to a "work"
directory for the processing. The "work" directory _must_ be "cleaned"
each time "makenews" is run or the whole thing gets mucked up. The
"runews.bat" does this after getting an "ok" from the Fidonews Editor.

The output of the "makenews" program is redirected to a file which is
then displayed. This file lists all the sections that the "makenews"
program knows of and any errors in articles in these sections.

You check this and note which articles have errors and then exit back
to the menu. Then, you run the editor and load the article(s) that
have errors, one by one, into the editor for editing.

Once you have fixed the obvious errors in each article and saved the
corrected article(s), you test again. If there are errors that you
can't find, you can then try the "fix" option and hope that it gets
them.... So far, this has worked well (too well in the case of the ~
in Joe Jared's column :).

Once the test shows error free, move the articles from the "fix"
directory to the "input" directory and do a final test. If that is
good, choose the "make" option and "makenews is run without the
redirect and the Fidonews is produced. The finished product is then
displayed for your review and acceptance. You read it and if it's ok
by you, you exit the reader. You're then asked if it's ok to finish
the production. If you answer no, you go back to the menu and can fix
or edit/test/make again until you are happy. :) If you answer yes,
the file_id is created and some other things and the whole Fidonews
with file_id is zipped up for delivery.

When you're ready, you choose the "hatch" option and the hatch program
hatches the Fidonews out with a .tic file and all the related file
attach to be sent off for the Fidonet world to read. :) After the
hatch, here are some automated programs that run to generate and place
certain repeat articles like the "Food For Thought", "Comics" and
stuff into the "input" directory for the next week's edition.

If you wish to post the Fidonews, the "post" option is there as well.
Right now, I don't do the posting since Carl does a good job of it and
all.

And you thought it was a "piece of cake" :-)

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Seriously.. It isn't that hard and I'd like to think that I've made it
easier with the "runews.bat" file. The "Guidelines" that you see in
the Fidonews each week are there to help people that wish to submit
articles... not as rules and such. "Makenews" refuses to accept
articles with high ascii and control codes. That's to prevent the
Fidonews from being unreadable or postable by some BBS programs or
other means that just barf on those control codes. Even some editors
and word processors that claim the save in ascii text format will add
control codes. Some are not visible to other editors or word
processors, but can cause problems in display just the same. That is
why I ask to try to follow the guidelines. I'm not trying to be a
jerk... just that some of the control codes are invisible and hard to
edit out and "makenews" barfs on them.

Anyway, I'll shut up now. This is probably more than you wanted to
know. :)

Regards,

Frank

http://texoma.net/~flv
http://bise.tzo.com/r19

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FIDONEWS 18-33 Page 9 13 Aug 2001

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COMIX IN ASCII
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Owls

/ ___ \ <*,*> > > > > <* , *> < * > <*,*>
(|<*,*>|) [`-'] ] ] ] ] [`---'] [`-'] [`=']
[`-'] -"-"- - - - - -"---"- -"-"- -"-"-
-"-"-
owl wearing high speed fat owl cyclopian owl
headphones owl owl wearing
lip gloss

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RECIPES
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BBQ Sauce
From Frank Vest
1:124/6308(.1)

3/4 c castup 3/4 c water
2 tblsp onion salt 3 tblsp vinegar
1 tblsp flour 2 1/2 tblsp Worcestershire Sauce
1 tsp salt 1 tsp paprika
1 tsp chili powder 1/4 tsp black pepper

Combine all ingredients. Heat and use to baste meat or fish.
Yields 2 cups.

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POET'S CORNER
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Are There No More?
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308

Are there no more
Fidonet poets galore

They're on the internet shore
Left Fidonet forever more

Should they knock once more
on that Fidonews door

This dog that once was poor
will be rich once more

Send your original poems for publication in the Fidonews to:
Frank Vest
[email protected]
1:124/6308(.1)

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CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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submitted by: [email protected]

God's Children

To those of us who have children in our lives, whether they are our
own, Grandchildren, nieces and nephews, or students . . . here is
something to make you chuckle. Whenever your children are out of
control, you can take comfort from the thought that even God's
omnipotence did not extend to His own children. After creating heaven
and earth, God created Adam and Eve. And the first thing he said was:

"Don't."

"Don't what?" Adam replied.

"Don't eat the forbidden fruit." God said.

"Forbidden fruit? We have forbidden fruit?

"Hey, Eve .. . we have forbidden fruit!"

"No way!"

"Yes, way!"

"Do NOT eat the fruit!" said God.

"Why?"

"Because I am your Father and I said so!" God replied, (wondering why
He hadn't stopped creation after making the elephants).

A few minutes later, God saw His children having an apple break
and was He ticked!

"Didn't I tell you not to eat the fruit?" God, our first parent,
asked?

"Uh huh," Adam replied.

"Then why did you?" said the Father.

"I don't know," said Eve.

"She started it!" Adam said,

"Did not!"

"Did too!"

"DID NOT!"

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Having had it with the two of them, God's punishment was that Adam and
Eve should have children of their own. Thus, the pattern was set and
it has never changed! But there is reassurance in this story. If you
have persistently and lovingly tried to give children wisdom and they
haven't taken it, don't be hard on yourself. If God had trouble
raising children, what makes you think it would be a piece of cake
for you?

Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a
headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle:

"Take two aspirin" and "Keep away from children. 8^)

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The Top 15 Mixed Drinks for Techies....
From Paul Williams
By Holly in the TREK_HUMOR_FILK Echo

15> Pasty White Russian
14> Sex in Your Dreams
13> Seagram's Seven of Nine
12> Harvey Codebanger
11> Slow Comfortable Download Against the Firewall
10> Chat Room on the Beach
9> Dotcomikaze
8> Blue Daiquiri Of Death
7> Anything, as long as there's a Mountain Dew chaser.
6> Screamin' Klingon
5> SCSI Navel
4> Rum and Jolt
3> Your Company on the Rocks
2> Sloe Porn Download
1> ASCII Sour

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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BN IFCICO | ??? | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
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NetStats

INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.222
File has a Date Stamp of : 8/10/2001
File Size (uncompressed) : 1231.53 KBytes.

The Input Nodelist file has 11354 Nodes in it
and a total of 14484 non-comment entries.

The list has 6 Zones listed.
68 Region Coordinators listed.
504 Network Hosts listed.
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794 Hubs listed.
368 DOWN Nodes listed.
828 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
562 HOLD Nodes listed.

Administrative overhead = 1372 ( 12.08 %)
PRIVATE NODES overhead = 828 ( 7.29 %)

Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
9600 = 9709 ( 85.51 %)
(HST's = 213 or 2.19 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(PEP's = 16 or 0.16 % " " " " )
(MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
(HAY's = 3 or 0.03 % " " " " )
(V32's = 5517 or 56.82 % " " " " )
(V32B's = 709 or 7.30 % " " " " )
(V42's = 5179 or 53.34 % " " " " )
(V42B's = 766 or 7.89 % " " " " )
2400 = 113 ( 1.00 %)
1200 = 8 ( 0.07 %)
300 = 533 ( 4.69 %)

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F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4540
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 11
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 13
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XP Seadog 6
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XR Opus 1.03 77
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XW Fido >12M 411
Tabby
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 4766
Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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CrashMail capable = 4239 ( 37.33 %)
MailOnly Nodes = 5774 ( 50.85 %)
Listed-Only Nodes = 848 ( 7.47 %)

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