F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 23 04 Jun 2001

F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 23 04 Jun 2001
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| |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are |
| | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings|
| | | | San Francisco, California, USA |
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| | Lives!( /|oo \ | Frank Vest@1:124/6308 |
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| _`@/_ \ _ | [email protected] |
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| | (*) | \ ))| Editor: Frank Vest |
| |__U__| / \// | Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin |
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| /Editor\ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
|(________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
Finding an old friend .................................... 2
One of Our Own ........................................... 2
3. EDITORIAL ................................................ 4
About the Fidonet By Internet Section .................... 4
4. INTERVIEWS ............................................... 6
Interview with Al Lawrence of Sunrise Doors .............. 6
5. EDITOR'S CORNER .......................................... 8
Interviews. A learning experience ........................ 8
6. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 9
Confidentialowly speaking ................................ 9
7. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 10
Proof that girls are evil: ............................... 10
8. CORRECTIONS .............................................. 11
Banner Editorial Correction .............................. 11
9. FIDONET LINKS ............................................ 12
Fido-via-Internet links .................................. 12
10. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 15
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 15
11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 21
How to Submit an Article ................................. 21
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 22
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 23
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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I know not what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World
War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

-- Albert Einstein --

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GENERAL ARTICLES
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Finding an old friend

Gentlemen:

For many years, my wife and I knew Peter C. Adenauer, formerly of
Miami, Florida. They (he and his wife) were at our wedding, we kept
their daughter with us when a hurricane was scheduled to hit Miami,
and both Peter and his ex-wife have stayed with us on numerous
occasions.

I know from research he was an active participant in Fido for quite a
period of time.

I found he had worked on a project in Dresden, FRG in the late 1990's
but cannot find an e-mail address or other current contact. As he and
his ex wife in Miami divorced many years ago, that is not an available
avenue for information.

Is there any such contact information available through you or your
group?

Any help you or your European Fido counterpart could offer in this
search would be most appreciated.

TIA

Craig L. Treiber
6625 East 103 Street
Tulsa, OK
[email protected]

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One of Our Own
By Frank Vest

It is great to think that the Fidonews and Fidonet reach out farther
than the confines of our network. Just imagine if someone were to read
the Fidonews or stumble onto a Fidonet echo and think "This is good. I
wonder if I can get permission to use this in my magazine, newspaper
or ??". Well, it happened.

I don't know all the details and that's ok. What I do know is that I
was contacted by a person asking permission to use an article from the
"Fidonews Volume 17, Number 30, July 24, 2000" in the newsletter of a
major oil company for it's retired employees. The column was from
Warren Bonner (Ol'WDB) and was titled "Some Little Known Facts". I
also received a message from Warren telling me that he had given his
permission to use the article. Of course, I gave my "Ok" when asked as
well.
FIDONEWS 18-23 Page 3 4 Jun 2001

I know that Ol'WDB would never "toot his own horn", but I will. :-)
Warren Bonner has been a columnist in the Fidonews for some time. His
wit and thoughts have graced our little publication. He is currently
working on a book, and I'm sure has some other projects going.
Congratulations to Warren and best wishes on all his ventures.

It's great to think that this lowly Fidonews could reach farther than
the confines of Fidonet and that someone, not a part of Fidonet, read
and liked something in there. It's also humbling to realize this. We
tend, when discussing our problems and troubles in Fidonet, to think
that "we" are the only ones that will ever see or care about "us". You
may think that no one else reads or cares, but that has just been
proven wrong.

Let's keep this in mind when we write for the Fidonews or in a
Fidonet echo. Also, when you think that what you have to say isn't
worth writing an article over or will never amount to anything,
remember that we really don't know who might read what we have to say
and think it worth reprinting.

Humbly yours,

Frank

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EDITORIAL
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About the Fidonet By Internet Section

In recent weeks, some things happened that became a problem. Joe
Jared was gone on business. I ended up as Editor. Questions were asked
about the Fidonet by Internet Section of the Fidonews. Decisions were
made and not all were good. I'm not going to get into details here.
I'll just say that the "Fidonet by Internet" section of the Fidonews
is Joe Jared's baby.

The "Fidonet by Internet" section is, in my opinion, an important
part of the Fidonews. It provides information that can be used by all
of Fidonet. As such, when asked about updates, I made a decision to
try to update the section myself. Help was offered and accepted.
Without going into detail, I'll say that I should have done some
things differently. I'll not apologize for doing what I thought was
best for the Fidonews and Fidonet, but I will offer my apologies to
Joe for the way I went about this. My apologies, Joe.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

As said, the "Fidonet by Internet" section is important. As a source
of information on contacts for feeds and listings of Internet sites
related to Fidonet, accuracy is needed. That accuracy is not just "up
to Joe" to accomplish. It's up to Fidonet to help. Let Joe know about
changes and updates needed.

Accuracy is important. I don't know how Joe goes about verifying the
links or what his rules or procedures are for updates. Maybe Joe
would be kind enough to write a short article to inform us. In any
event, Joe can not do all this by himself. Sure, he can produce the
file and submit it, but the updates and information, in large, need to
come from the Sysops and Nodes in Fidonet. Don't beat Joe if you don't
tell him when something changes.

Further, if your change doesn't get into the next list, let Joe know.
Don't assume that he got the message or that someone else will inform
him. Also, remember that Joe has the responsibility for accuracy. Just
because someone sends him a message that says "The link for * is
incorrect, it's **" doesn't mean that Joe should just change it. He
must check the information. If he didn't, it would be easy for someone
to tell him that all links are * and, if he just accepted this, the
list would be totally screwed.

What I'm saying is:

Inform Joe Jared of changes needed.
If it's a change for someone else's address, expect some delay while
the change is checked out.
Don't assume that the message got delivered or that someone else will
inform Joe.
If at first you don't succeed, try again until you do.
FIDONEWS 18-23 Page 5 4 Jun 2001

Note that there is an updated list this week.

Joe Jared can be reached at the address(s) at the top of his section.

Regards,

Frank

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FIDONEWS 18-23 Page 6 4 Jun 2001

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INTERVIEWS
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Interview with Al Lawrence of Sunrise Doors
By Frank Vest

As Editor of the Fidonews, a publication of the Fidonet mail network,
I'm trying to interview various Authors of BBS related programs and
other software for the Fidonews.

With your permission, I'd like an E-Mail address and Web page, if
available, to publish in the Fidonews.

Email: [email protected]
http://www.sunrisedoors.com
ICQ: 14055399

Q: Tell us a little about Al Lawrence. Just who are you? :)

I am a 59 year old father of 2 and grandfather of 2. I live in
Atlanta, GA and have since 1988. Prior to that I lived in MD, FL and
NY. I am happily married for almost 38 years.

I have worked in the Information Technology filed since 1969, starting
on punched card machines (almost like the ones used to tabulate the
punched card ballots). I have performed and/or been responsible for
people that have performed just about every job function in IT. In
1991 I moved out of the corporate world into my own business and have
been there ever since. I have not missed the corporate life, although
it presented many many perks to me and my family, I was more
interested in prolonging my life without the corporate stress!

Q: What got you first interested in BBS?

Being in the IT field I became very curious about the personal
computer, buying one of the first Radio Shack Model I's made. Having
already had a heavy background in programming (FORTRAN, Assembler,
RPG, etc.) I wanted to delve into the world of Basic programming. I
came up something called a BBS and put up my first BBS in 1980.

Q: How long have you been programming?

Since 1970.

Q: What prompted you to begin writing Door programs?

To allow my family to play the games they enjoyed on the kitchen
table, on the PC.

Q: What do you see as the strong points of your Doors? Give us a
quick review.

Solid coding, challenging and frustrating games, InterBBS capability
built into a large number of the products.
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Q: Where do you see door games going in the future?

I see them evolving into the HTML/JAVA, etc technology. However, the
popularity for the types of Doors I produce will be around for awhile
to come. My generation enjoys card games, dice games, word games,
etc... and that is reflected in our InterBBS popularity. Will it go on
forever, not likely... but my generation is not dead yet .

Q: Where do you see BBS systems going in the future.

They have already begun to evolve from mainly dialup to now mainly
Telenetable systems.

Q: Anything else you want to add or tell the readers?

I have always had an interest in acquiring other Door author's work
and that interest continues. As long as their work is written in a
language I am familiar with (Basic, wcCode/)wcBasic) I would be more
than happy to hear from them!

BBSes have been very good to me and I have a special place for them in
my life.... we will be around as long as my health permits (and that
does not appear to be a concern anytime soon <grin>)

As for those that might be hoping to see our products come out in some
sort of Freeware format, my survivors will control that not I ( in
other words, don't hold your breath <grin>)

Al Lawrence
Sunrise Door Software
www.sunrisedoors.com

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EDITOR'S CORNER
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Interviews: A learning experience

Interviews? Well, that's what they are. I've been doing them just
because it seemed like a good idea. From the response of the people
I've asked for interviews from, they think so too. :-)

Of course interviews are just questions that are asked of a person,
group or organization to gather information to publish or whatever. In
reality, anyone could do this. <hint> :)

What is really interesting is what is learned from the answers to the
questions. I'm not talking about the basic answers of one interview.
I'm talking about insights from several interviews that suddenly `jump
out at you'. Here's an example that has 'jumped out at me':

When I first got into BBS'ing, there were many systems that were
large and, maybe, profitable. As time went on, those systems fell by
the way. This might have been due to the Internet, but I wonder?
Anyway, in the process of interviewing software authors, I notice one
thing that most have in common. That is the feeling that BBS'ing has
come `full circle'. The common comments are to the effect of `BBS'ing
has now returned to what it started as, a hobby' and the hope that
those software authors that still have an interest in BBS software
will realize that their software isn't going to make them a lot of
money.

This is much like the Citizen Band radio craze that started a few
years ago and then died out. For a while, *everyone* had a `CB' and
was talking to whoever they could. Then, the whole thing dropped...
almost over night. Some time after that, there was a small restart of
the craze, but it never got to the height it once was. Then, it
leveled off to the hobby side and is still out there today. I wonder
if BBS'ing will see this same thing?

Just some food for thought.

Enjoy BBS'ing,

Frank

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COMIX IN ASCII
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Confidentialowly speaking

___
<*,->
[`-']
-"-"-
Confidentialowly speaking,
I'd rather write an message in a Fidonet Echo
or an article in the Fidonews.
__
/ \ _______
/|oo \ ________| |
(_| /_) /________ Woof! |
_`@/_ \ _ |_______|
| | \ \\
| (*) | \ ))
|__U__| / \//
_//|| _\ /
(_/(_|(____/

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CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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Proof that girls are evil:
From: "Kevin van Houten" in the TREK_HUMOR_FILK Echo
Submitted by Paul Williams

Proof that girls are evil:

First, we all know that girls require time and money.

Girl = Time * Money

And, we know from life that 'Time equals Money'

Time = Money

So,

Girl = Money * Money

And, since Money is the 'root of all evil'

Money = SQRT(Evil)

Girl = SQRT(Evil * Evil)

Girl = Evil

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CORRECTIONS
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Banner Editorial Correction

In last weeks Editorial about the Fidonews Banner, I refered to the
"Trademark" in the Fidonews Banner as a "copyright". The correct
reference is "Trademark".

Regards,

Frank

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FIDONET LINKS
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Fidonet-via-Internet links
Last updated May 31st 2001

-----------|-----------------|--------------------------|------------
Fido addr | Sysop | Internet address | Flags
-----------|-----------------|--------------------------|------------
1:10/3 | Brenda Donovan | tnl-online.com | BN TX MI FT
1:10/345 | Todd Cochrane | bbsnets.com + BN FT VM
1:103/153 | Michael Box | 216.101.212.214 | BN
1:103/301 | Joe Jared | osirusoft.com | BN FT
1:103/401 | Warren Bonner | thelaststop.osirusoft.com| BN
1:103/5 | Mark Luetger | eaglemaster.dynip.com | BN
1:105/8 |[email protected]| www.dimstar.net + BN FT UC
1:106/1 | Steve Loupe | 216.128.49.228 | BN FT
1:106/2000 | Bob Juge | juge.com | BN VM FT TX
1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | bbs.eforest.net | VM
1:107/453 | Jeffrey Estevez | jem.homeip.net $ BN
1:138/146 | Marc Blakely | lookglas.tzo.com | BN FT
1:140/1 | Bob Seaborn | nwstar.com $ BN FT
1:142/906 | Chris Griffin | dosadi.4griffin.net | BN
1:150/220 | Dave Nemeth | | UC
1:153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | bandmaster.tzo.com $ BN FT
1:167/133 | Stephen Monteith| juxtaposition.dynip.com | FT VM TX BN
1:167/166 | Jesse Dooling | concept.darktech.org |POP UC TX FT
1:18/500 | Ross Cassell | www.the-estar.com:8080 | FT FC BN
1:18/600 | Jerry Gause | techshop36.pdn.net $ FT BN
1:218/109 | Matt Munson | | TX BN UC
1:220/10 | George Roberts | nexusbbs.net | BN FT
1:229/1 | Phil Simpson | swill.tzo.com | BN FC FT
1:229/440 | Robert Couture | runekeep.darktech.org | BN FT MI TX
1:229/622 | Dave Hamilton | aurorabbs.dyndns.org | BN
1:2320/38 | Janis Kracht | filegate.net | BN FT
1:2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | | FT BN
1:246/160 | Mason Vye | | FT UC
1:249/116 | Carl A Bennett | cafe.dyndns.org/bbs | FT BN UC
1:250/99 | Brent McLaren | hof.to.org | FT BN
1:250/102 | Darin McBride | tower.to.org + BN FT
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | $ FT VM UC
1:261/1380 | Joe Davis | + UE TX
1:2624/306 | D Calafrancesco | | VM
1:267/169 | Philip Lozier | angelfire.com/ny4/net267 | FT TX
1:297/11 | Michael McCabe | | TX
1:323/120 | Craig Healy | chowdanet.com | VM FT
1:3407/4 | Robert Todd | | BN FT VM UC
1:342/3 |Richard Dodsworth| mach2.mach2.ab.ca + FT BN
1:360/5 | Bennie Hutto | thewallbbs.darktech.org | FT VM
1:3613/1275| Jack Yates | [email protected] | FT UC MI TX
1:3634/12 | Mark Lewis | (see BACKSTAT files) ?
1:379/1 | Dale Ross | harborwebs.com | FC FT BN
1:379/1200 | Chris Cranford | + BN FT TX
1:3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk | bise.tzo.com | BN FT TX UC
1:393/9005 | Steve Quarrella | valencia.dopefish.org TaD| BN TX UC VM
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1:395/670 | Arthur Stark | 204.189.115.194 | BN VM FT
1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | bbs.sursum-corda.com $ BN FT TX MI
1:396/48 | Ben Ritchey | | MI
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2:20/11 | Jesper S rensen | f11.n20.z2.fidonet.net + BN
2:201/329 | Mats Wallin | + TX VM
2:201/505 | Goran Eriksson | get.tzo.net | BN
2:203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | | TX UC
2:211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | copbbs.dyndns.org + BN FC
2:22/222 | Kim Heino | bbbs.net | BN
2:221/360 | Tommi Koivula | rbb.homeip.net | BN VM MI UC
2:236/205 | Michael Kaaber | vmodem.fidobbs.dk | BN VM
2:240/6298 | Steve Tell | smsbbs.dyndns.org + BN UC
2:2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | iogate.dtdns.net | BN UC
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | | BN UC
2:2432/200 | Sven Dueker | pbbs.darktech.org | BN TX MI UC
2:2446/301 | Lothar Behet | fido.nrh.de | BN FC VM
2:246/2098 | Volker Imre | binkd.imre.dyndns.org | BN FC
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | (see nodelist) | UC
2:2476/419 | Tobias Ernst | physcip.uni-stuttgart.de | BN
2:2487/3000| Steffen Gross | box.fto.de + BN
2:252/110 | David Rance | rance.org.uk + MI UC
2:255/90 | Simon Avery | www.digdilem.org | UC
2:263/950 | Sean Rima | www.tcob1.net + TX UE
2:28/1 | Lody Caenen | pcpc.xs4all.nl + BN FT
2:280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | www.dreamlandbbs.com + BN FT
2:280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur| | FT UC
2:280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | snake.ath.cx | BN FC MI TX
2:280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | + BN FC
2:292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | | BN
2:292/620 | Eddy Missoul | www.cabdrivers.com | BN TX
2:292/624 | Steven Leeman | www.fidonet.be | BN TX
2:292/854 | Ward Dossche | many-glacier.mine.nu | BN MI UC TX
2:301/1 | Peter Witschi | | BN
2:332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | unitedworld.yi.org | BN
2:333/0 | M Gianformaggio | www.fidonet.it + BN
2:335/534 | Mario Mur | (see nodelist) | MI TX UC
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | (see nodelist) | MI TX UC
2:341/14 | Rafael Suarez | bbs.rafastd.org | BN VM
2:344/201 | Julio Garcia | julio.masbytes.es | VM
2:346/3 | Carlos Navarro | http://cyberiada.org | UC MI
2:37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | ftn.gzp.hu + BN
2:382/100 | Sinisa Burina | miracle.fido.org.yu | BN FC
2:400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | | BN FC
2:400/557 | Marius Kaizerman| | BN FC
2:400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | fido.lamberth.org | BN FC
2:423/81 | Milos Bajer | fido.bajer.cz | BN FC VM
2:461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | | BN
2:461/640 | Alex Semenyaka | snark.rinet.ru | BN FC MI
2:465/204 | Va Milushnikov | fido.os.org.ua | BN
2:469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | fido.mnc.md + BN FC
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | | VM
2:47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | www.fidonet.lt + BN FC
2:480/112 | Adam Sarapata | mail.bossar.pl | BN FC FT
2:5002/5002| Victor Belyakov |f5002.n5002.z2.fidonet.net+ BN
2:5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | f4.n5014.z2.fidonet.net + BN FC
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2:5020/52 | Peter Didenko | fido.aha.ru + BN
2:5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff| erun.da.ru Txx + BN FC
2:5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | f69.n5020.z2.fidonet.net + BN
2:5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | f238.n5020.z2.fidonet.net+ BN
2:5020/1159| G Kudryashoff | (see nodelist) | UC MI
2:5020/1301| Michael Pashkin | bdm.snet.ru + BN
2:5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin| | BN FC
2:5030/596 | Vlad Lavrinenko | f596.n5030.z2.fidonet.net+
2:5030/1251| K Stepanekov | + UC
2:5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili| f144.n5049.z2.fidonet.net| BN
2:5054/3 | Andrew Popov | | BN
2:5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | zorin.midural.ru + BN FC
2:5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | fido.online.kz + BN FC
2:5090/2 | Andrew Titov | long.ekos.ru + BN
2:5100/8 | Egons Bush | | BN
2:550/4077 | S Trouchelle | (see nodelist) | MI UC
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3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | fido.tardis.net | BN FC
3:640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | albatross.dyndns.org | BN FT MI TX
3:712/311 | Bob James | pcbbs.org + TX
3:774/605 | Barry Blackford | glonet.co.nz | BN FC
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4:801/161 | Renato Zambon | (see BACKSTAT.WW) | TX MI UC
4:902/18 | Javier Tejedor | | UC
4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | cactus.com.ar | BN TX
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5:7102/1 | Joe Rinck | magnum.alt.za +
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6:770/1 | Anatoli Tung | 213.135.64.194 | BN
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I-flags:
BN - BinkD-compatible protocol
FC - Ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
FT - Internet file transfer protocol
MI - MIME encoded e-mail attach
TX - TransX-style proprietary e-mail format
UC - UUencoded e-mail fileattach
VM - Virtual mailer over telnet

Txx indicates server is only available during specified hours

+ indicates a recent addition/update to this list
? indicates information is pending verification from hub
$ indicates a cost recovery plan (CRP) or commercial server
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This is not a complete list of all available feeds; if you have
a Fido-via-Internet site that's not listed, please let me know.

The information in this list is based largely upon information
obtained from individual hubs, nodelists, ERNROUTE hub/path info
and backbone info provided by the various distribution systems.

Please send updates and comments to [email protected] 1:249/116

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
Last update: June 3, 2001

Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, [email protected]. All email addresses
here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
obtaining a feed. Please do not list the virtual email addresses
on any web page.

- = slated for removal (Invalid URL)
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FidoNet
Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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Echolist: http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/
Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
Parody: http://www.fidonet.ro/

Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.r10.org
Net 102 http://home.earthlink.net/ kayshapero/net102.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: <vacant>
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/ garyg/region11/
Region 13: http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/
Net 109: http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/
Net 261: http://www.baltimorepress.com/ net261/
Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/
Net 267: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/
Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/

Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/ net282/
Region 15: <vacant>
Region 16: <vacant>
Region 17: http://www.region17.net
Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/ net140
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
Net 124: http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/
http://texoma.net/ flv
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/ wb/
FIDONEWS 18-23 Page 16 4 Jun 2001

Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 25: <Vacant>
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/ blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
?? Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
Net 5074: http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/ net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://r65.yeah.net
http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature.

v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
FIDONEWS 18-23 Page 17 4 Jun 2001

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
18/600 | Jerry Gause | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
163/99 | Jim Brown | FTP | ??? | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/440 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BN IFCICO | ??? | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
FIDONEWS 18-23 Page 19 4 Jun 2001

2476/419 | Tobias Ernst | BinkP | ??? | n/c
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
----------------------------------------------
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Nodelist Stats

INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.152
File has a Date Stamp of : 5/30/2001
File Size (uncompressed) : 1250.45 KBytes.

The Input Nodelist file has 11746 Nodes in it
and a total of 14712 non-comment entries.

The list has 6 Zones listed.
68 Region Coordinators listed.
507 Network Hosts listed.
802 Hubs listed.
428 DOWN Nodes listed.
803 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
352 HOLD Nodes listed.

Administrative overhead = 1383 ( 11.77 %)
PRIVATE NODES overhead = 803 ( 6.84 %)

Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
9600 = 10098 ( 85.97 %)
(HST's = 228 or 2.26 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(PEP's = 20 or 0.20 % " " " " )
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(MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
(HAY's = 6 or 0.06 % " " " " )
(V32's = 5651 or 55.96 % " " " " )
(V32B's = 851 or 8.43 % " " " " )
(V42's = 5234 or 51.83 % " " " " )
(V42B's = 908 or 8.99 % " " " " )
2400 = 123 ( 1.05 %)
1200 = 8 ( 0.07 %)
300 = 544 ( 4.63 %)

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F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4793
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 12
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 14
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XP Seadog 6
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XR Opus 1.03 78
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XW Fido >12M 420
Tabby
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 4826
Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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CrashMail capable = 4539 ( 38.64 %)
MailOnly Nodes = 5860 ( 49.89 %)
Listed-Only Nodes = 867 ( 7.38 %)

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