F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 06 04 Feb 2001

F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 06 04 Feb 2001
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Table of Contents
1. HEADLINE ................................................. 1
*Quote* .................................................. 1
2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
Net124 has a new Net Coordinator ......................... 2
3. COLUMNS .................................................. 3
>>>Frank's Column<<< ..................................... 3
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........................................................... 6
4. TRUE STORIES ............................................. 8
-=+TRUE+=- ............................................... 8
5. RECIPES .................................................. 9
+++>RECIPES<+++ .......................................... 9
6. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 11
<<<<< Technocal Talk >>>>> ............................... 11
7. POET'S CORNER ............................................ 15
<POETRY CORNER> .......................................... 15
8. HUMOR .................................................... 16
*^)=FUNNIES=(^* .......................................... 16
9. NOTICES .................................................. 19
*****NOTICES***** ........................................ 19
10. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 20
11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 25
***FIDONEWS INFORMATION*** ............................... 25
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HEADLINE
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Yesterday is a dream, tomorrow but a vision. But today well
lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every
tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well, therefore to this day.
Sanskrit Proverb

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ARTICLES
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By Frank Vest

In a recent event, Bryan Turner was elected to the position of NC for
Net124. Bryan replaces Frank Vest who held the NC position for 2
years, being re-elected once.

Bryan Turner may be familiar to some as the "face behind the wheel" of
Vagabond Software. In his service to Fidonet and BBS in general,
he has rescued many of the BBS doors that were abandoned by other
authors. In his generosity, Bryan offer many door games to Sysops for
the total cost of a postcard sent to him.

If you wish to find out about VagabondSoftware, the URL is:
http://vagabond.virtualave.net

Best of luck to Bryan in his term(s) as N124C.

http://texoma.net/~flv
http://bise.tzo.com/r19

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From: "Frank Vest" <[email protected]>
To: "Warren Bonner" <[email protected]>
Subject: article
Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:31 PM

_____________________________________________________________________

Region 19 News
By Frank Vest

In news for Region 19 and good news for Fidonet. Region 19 grew by
one Net and some Nodes.

Net3821 is back in the Nodelist with Steve Byers as the NC. As we
look at the Nodelist we find The Thunderbolt BBS,Little Rock AR,Daryl
Stout and The Scoreboard BBS,Little Rock AR,Brad Williams.

Region 19's IP net, Net3830 gained Noel Romey in Fayetteville AR.,
and I believe, Joe Bruchis in Houma LA.

It would seem that Arkansas is back on the map in Fidonet Region 19.

Amazing thing is, Bill Clinton didn't apply for a Node number. :-))

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COLUMNS
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Rebuttal to post in Fidonews Echo
By Frank Vest
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Hello Warren,

It's about time "we" (whoever "we" is) made these lost
Nodes and Points aware of the Fidonews Echo. Let's get 'm in here.
For my view... The Fidonews Echo is for discussing the articles
in the Fidonews publication. The Fidonews Publication is for articles
submitted by people in Fidonet (Sysops and Users).

To put Echo content into the Fidonews Publication to be hashed
in the Fidonews Echo is re-hashing the hash. If a topic is worth
discussing in the Fidonews Echo, it should be an article in the
Fidonews Publication first and submitted as such to the Editor.

If an article is posted in the Fidonews Echo for publication in
the Fidonews Publication, put it in there as an article, not quoted
material unless it is a rebuttal of an article or post and designated
as such with a request to publish the rebuttal in the Fidonews
Publication.

To use your logic in this... Since "most nodes that read
Fidonews don't have the echo on their systems", maybe we should
have a Fidonews "Early Edition" that is composed of all the posts
in the Fidonews Echo. I really don't think this would work and it's
a really bad idea in my view, but it would get the whole thread of
the subjects being talked about in the Fidonews Echo to the ones
that don't get the Fidonews Echo for one reason or another.

Here's a point to consider:
If a Fidonews Editor takes the posts from the Fidonews Echo and
puts them into the Fidonews Publication, no matter how the posts
are formatted or whatever, then why should a Sysop or User bother
to write an article for the Fidonews Publication? It will be easier
to just post in the Fidonews Echo and have the post published in the
Fidonews Publication.

Are you, in reality, harming the Fidonews Publication by including
posts from the Fidonews Echo?

Just my $.02 You can send the change to me later. :-)

http://texoma.net/~flv
http://bise.tzo.com/r19

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Thanks again Frank, for your article and astute insight to the
editor's biggest problem. Hope a few articles will arrive now
for publication.
ED.
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-=+Ol' WDB's Column+=-
Close your eyes.....and go back in time....

Before the IT, V., Commodore64, Amiga, AppleII, Mac or the Internet.
Before semi-automatics and crack,
Before SEGA or Super Nintendo...
Way back........

I'm talking about hide-and-seek at dusk.
The Good Humor man,
Red light, green light.
The corner store.
Hopscotch, butterscotch, double-dutch, jacks, kickball, dodgeball.
Mother May I?
Simon says...
Red Rover, Marco Polo and Roly Poly.
Steel wheel skates and Hula Hoops.
Running through the sprinkler;
The smell of the wet lawn at end of water slide...

Wax lips and mustaches!
An ice cream cone on a warm summer night;
Chocolate or vanilla or strawberry or maybe butter pecan.
A Cherry Coke from the soda fountain at the corner drug store.
Hopalong Cassidy, Roy Rogers and Gene Autry at the movie house.

Later....

Watching Saturday morning cartoons... short commercials...
Fat Albert, Road Runner, He-Man, Superman, Green Hornet,
The Three Stooges, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck,
Or staying up for Gunsmoke and Ponderosa.

Or back further, listening to Jim Braddock & Joe Lewis fight, the
search for Wiley Post & Will Rogers plane crash, the derigible from
Germany tragedy, Henry Aldrich, and Superman on the radio.

When around the corner seemed far away,
And going downtown seemed like going Somewhere.
A million mosquito bites. Sticky candy fingers.
Cops and Robbers, Cowboys and Indians, Zorro. Climbing trees.
Building igloos out of snow banks, parachuting with umbrella off
barn roof into Snow bank.
Walking to school, no matter what the weather was,
(six miles each way, both ways uphill)!
Running till you were out of breath.
Laughing so hard that your stomach hurt.
Saturday night baths in number three wash tub.
Going to Church was getting to dress up in "Sunday finery".

Jumping on the bed. Pillow fights.
Spinning around, getting dizzy and falling down was cause for giggles.
Being tired from playing.... Remember that?
Petting ol' "Rover" in the sunshine on the porch...
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Petting kitty at night to see the sparkles of static,
Chasing fire flies...

The worst embarrassment was being picked last for a team.
War was a card game, no one ever heard of Hitler or Hirohito.
Water balloons were the ultimate weapon.
Baseball cards in the spokes transformed any bike into a motorcycle.
I'm not finished yet -- eating Kool-aid powder.

Remember when...

There were only two types of sneakers for girls and boys: Keds & PF
Flyers, and the only time you wore them at school was for "Gym."
It wasn't odd to have two or three "best" friends.
Going skinny dipping in farmer Jones cattle reservoir

When a quarter was a decent allowance, and another quarter was a
miracle. When milk went up a penny and everyone talked about it for
weeks. When you'd reach into a muddy gutter for a penny.

When you got your windshield cleaned, oil checked, and gas pumped,
without asking, for free, every time. And you didn't pay for air in
the tires. And you got trading stamps to boot!
When laundry detergent had free glasses, dishes or towels hidden
inside the box.

When nearly everyone's Mom was at home when the kids got there.
When it took five minutes for the TV to warm up, if you had one.
When your Mom wore nylons that came in two pieces.
When it was magic when dad would "remove" his thumb.

When it was considered a great privilege to be taken out to dinner at
a real restaurant with your parents.

When girls neither dated nor kissed until late high school, if then.
When all of your male teachers wore neckties and female teachers had
their hair done.

When any parent could discipline any kid, or feed him, or use him to
carry groceries, and nobody - not even the kid, thought a thing of it.

When they threatened to keep kids back a grade if they failed ..and
did!

When being sent to the principal's office was nothing compared to what
awaited a misbehaving student when arriving home.

Basically, we were in fear for our lives but it wasn't because of
drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs, etc.
Our parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! And some of
us are still afraid of them!

Didn't that feel good.. just to go back and say, Yeah, I remember
that!

Remember when............
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Decisions were made by going "eeny-meeny-miney-mo."
Mistakes were corrected by simply exclaiming, "do over!"
"Race issue" meant arguing about who ran the fastest.
Money issues were handled by whoever was the banker in "Monopoly."
The worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex was cooties.
It was unbelievable that dodgeball wasn't an Olympic event.
Having a weapon in school, meant being caught with a slingshot.
Nobody was prettier than Mom.

Scrapes and bruises were kissed and made better.
Taking drugs meant orange-flavored chewable aspirin, or Castor oil.
Ice cream was considered a basic food group.
Getting a foot of snow was a dream come true.
New abilities were discovered because of a "double-dog dare you."

Older siblings were the worst tormentors, but also the fiercest
protectors.

If you can remember most or all of these, then you have LIVED!!

Ol'WDB

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+++OPINION COLUMN+++
By: Philip Lozier:
I think that if the EDITor sees a thread being pursued here that seems
appropriate for inclusion in the newsletter, that rather than include
the entire thread, quoted, and requoted at that, that a proper method
to follow would be to create an article which explains the general
topic of the discussions, provide a -general- overview of the basic
context of the responses pro and con to the initial discussion,
possibly give an idea of, by the number of respondents to either side,
which position seems to be the more popular one, maybe provide on or
two quotes from either side that seem to be of extreme relevance to
either position, leave it up to the reader to draw conclusions, and
ask for any comments from readers to be submitted for review... when
comments are submitted, again, don't publish every one, but rather
only publish the responses most direct to the subject.

Make it a DIGEST of all the input, not just an archive publication of
the entire echo.

That is just my opinion.

Phil

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Good Idea Phil, a DIGEST type format would get around the critics to
a degree on the quoting and requoting again by someone else, and
sometimes a third time by a third party. That has bothered me in
learning how to be a editor rather than being the author of books.
In my manuscripts, I don't have this problem. I will work on that
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idea next week's issue.

Thanks for the input, you and several others coming forward with
pointers are extremely important to me and the Snooze.

Ol'wdb
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TRUE STORIES
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What Insect eats Cyanide?

Hydrogen cyanide is one of the most toxic substances, so it is no
surprise that some plants use it in defense. The cells of tropical
passion vines have two kinds of tiny compartments. One kind of
compartment contains an enzyme (a protein catalyst), and the other
contains a chemical called a cyanogen. When a bug eats a leaf and
crushes its cells, the enzyme and the cyanogen mix, forming deadly
hydrogen cyanide gas.

Yet the caterpillars of the blue Grecian butterfly (Heliconius sara)
eat nothing but those same leaves. How do they avoid being poisoned?

The secret is in the caterpillar's saliva. It contains special
enzymes that quickly attack the cyanogen, changing it so that the
cyanide gas is not produced. But the evolutionary arms race is not
over, since some passion vines grow sharp hooks that rip open unwary
caterpillars.

A recent study revealed the caterpillars' secret:
http://www.bric.postech.ac.kr/science/97now/00_7now/000713a.html

H. sara can be found in Central and South America:
http://www.butterflies.org.uk/lbh_home/tropical/costaric/h_sara.htm
http://www.rlephoto.com/troplep/Heliconius_sara003s.htm

Animals can also use cyanide for defense:
http://features.LearningKingdom.com/fact/archive/1998/05/22.html

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JPL Lab Report on Climate

The El Nino and La Nina events of the past few years may
have faded into climate history, but the Pacific Ocean has not
calmed down. The latest satellite data from the U.S.-French
TOPEX/Poseidon mission show that the entire Pacific basin
continues to be dominated by the strong and stable Pacific
Decadal Oscillation's (PDO) characteristic warm horseshoe and
cool wedge pattern. The PDO is a long-term ocean temperature
fluctuation of the Pacific Ocean that waxes and wanes
approximately every 10 to 20 years.

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RECIPES
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By: David Pileggi
To: Public
Re: R-Shrimp Etouffee
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SHRIMP ETOUFFEE

Qty Measurement Ingredient
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1/2 lb butter
2 large onions, chopped
6 cloves garlic
2 stalks celery, chopped
1 cup green bell pepper, cored, seeded, and
chopped

1 can (8 oz) tomato sauce
2-1/2 cups shrimp stock
3-1/2 cups fresh tomatoes, peeled and chopped
1 cup green onions, chopped
2 Tbsps sugar
1 Tbsp lemon juice
1-1/2 tsps white pepper
1/2 tsp thyme
1/2 tsp basil
2 dashes Tabasco sauce
1 bay leaf
salt (to taste)
red pepper (to taste)
black pepper (to taste)
3-1/2 lbs shrimp, peeled and deveined (save heads,
tail, and shells to make shrimp stock)

In a pot, boil the shrimp heads, tails, and shells for 2 hours.
Save the water for shrimp stock and discard the shrimps remains.

In a black, cast-iron pot, heat the bacon grease. Add the
onions, garlic, bell pepper, and celery. Saute the vegetables
for 30 minutes.

Add the tomato sauce and simmer for 5 minutes longer. Add the
shrimp stock and simmer for 10 minutes more. Add the tomatoes,
green onions, sugar, lemon juice, white pepper, thyme, basil,
Tabasco sauce, bay leaf, and the salt, red pepper, and black
pepper, to taste. Simmer for a hour.

Add the shrimp and simmer for 10 minutes. Remove the bay leaf
and top the creole with the chopped parsley. Serve hot.

Recipe from: "Roger's Cajun Cookbook" by Vernon Roger, published
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1987

* Origin: The Underground (1:106/1234)

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By: Florence Thompson
To: All
Re: Re: From World Wide Recipes
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From: Florence Thompson <[email protected]>
FTN-Posted-By: Florence Thompson

I'll go get the scissors and cut it out quick.
This recipe looks plain delicious,
And what I adore is new recipes for
All kinds of unusual dishes.

I've got 'em for shish-kebob, blintzes and borsch,
For goulash and Siamese noodles,
For guava souffle and papaya parfait,
And oodles for puddings and strudels.

I've got 'em in folders, I've got 'em in drawers
I read 'em and just can't resist 'em.
I cut 'em from ads and from box tops in scads,
And someday I'll sort 'em and list 'em.

But not at the moment. I'd best stash away
This recipe -- gee, it's a dillly!
And rustle some chow. H'm-m, let me see, now,
Shall I open some soup or some chili?

* Origin: Fidonet<->Internet Gateway (1:102/125.99)

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GETTING TECHNICAL
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By: Carol Shenkenberger, Shenk's Express (275/100)
To: Warren Bonner
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I was planning to save this for next week but it's ready now.

xxcarol

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Edited for Fidonews- 4FEB01

Part 3 of 'how to series' as based on Telegard FAQ series

This series is meant to work in tandem with the FAQ1 and FAQ2 posted
earlier in Fidonews. Some aspects of the FAQ on 'BBS Security' are
implemented in the samples here (ZANSI).

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Ok now we have you passing the right errorlevel. Next we see if we
can help you optimize your memory needs. Note: This will show only
the simplest of optimization. Your exact needs WILL vary depending on
your software and hardware. Lets just call it a 'starting point' to
work from.

This part will show the autoexec.bat and config.sys changes you may
need to make it all work together well. It will also show several
methods of tossing mail, if you run a tosser other than Gecho.

It is based on DOS 5.0, and standard softwares in use by many. I did
however delete the VSHIELD referents as many use other versions of
scanners today. The BBS example is Telegard to match the earlier 2
FAQ's in the series. Replace the command lines as needed if you run a
different software.

First, the config.sys file:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS DOS=HIGH,UMB
FILES=60 BUFFERS=50 DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.SYS /X
DEVICEHIGH=X00.SYS E 1 B,0,57600 R=2048 T=1024 DEVICEHIGH=C:\ZANSI.SYS

That was it. Make sure the directories match and you run the same
files. If for example you use BNU, swap out the entire X00 line with
your own. ZANSI if you wonder is an older file that replaces ANSI.SYS
and is smaller, faster, and doesnt contain the code to remap a
keyboard <providing a tad of extra protection for a sysop>. If you
dont find it locally, you can freq it from 1:275/100 as ZANSI. Note:
Do NOT use ZANSI with Desqview or WIN NT or any software which
requires re-mapping of the keyboard for proper action.

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Ok time for the Autoexec.bat I think!

SET COMSPEC=C:\COMMAND.COM set FD=c:\FD PATH C:\DOS;C:\;C:\FD;C:\TG
GE=c:\fd 3 ; gecho specific SET TEMP=C:\TEMP SET
TZUDT=-0500 ;FD225 Specific, East Coast Time SET
TMP=C:\FD\TEMP ;FD225 Specific VERIFY OFF C:\DOS\APPEND
C:\DOS PROMPT $p$g$e[36;44m LH c:\dos\share.exe cd \fd tsmail

Now that was the autoexec.bat in generic format. Note: Some doors
might require you add the 'protocol directory' to your path line. If
so, the door will make note of it in the documentation. External
CD-ROM doors and some games are the most common ones to need this. Bet
you wonder what that 'tsmail' was right?

TSMAIL.BAT is my way of automating repairs to the system when it hangs
sporadically on a toss of mail. My husband just reboots the system
and it tosses mail again. When it is done, it brings the BBS back up
to FD.

Here is a copy of it, included just so you can see that you can do all
sorts of maintenance on re-booting.

AT H1 1 c: cd \fd GEcho Toss -NOMGR GEcho scan GECHO MGR mbutil pack
-renumber -link -purge frodo ; your FD
batch file

Note that this TSMAIL.BAT file is Gecho 1.11+ tosser specific.

Here are some command lines for other tossers: -for SQUISH users,

SQUISH IN SQUISH OUT SQUASH SQUISH LINK SQPACK C:\TG\MSGS\*.SQD
;should actually be run nightly only frodo
; your FD batch file

Notes relevant to SQUISH use. If you have lots of memory, try using
SQUISH IN LINK and delete the SQUISH LINK line. It will run faster.
SQPACK actually should be moved to a nightly event area vice run at
each toss of mail. Some SQUISH users, like to add SQFIX either
nightly or at each toss to clear any possible errors in the squish
bases.

-for FMAIL users

Fmail Scan /A /J
Fmail Toss /A
Fmail Import

Note: No Registration required for JAM mode in a non-commercial
environment. This example is without the AREAMGR functions activated.

-for FASTECHO users

CD \FD\FASTECHO
FASTECHO TOSS
FEUTIL IMPORT
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FASTECHO SCAN
FEUTIL PURGE
FEUTIL PACK -RENUMBER -JAM
FEUTIL LINK -IGNORE
frodo ; your FD batch file

Example of how to toss filebone with TICK version 2.10

---Begin TICKOUT.BAT----

Echo Off
C:
Cd \Fd
Tick
cd \tg
FA2FB -DATE
files2tg
FB2FA -DATE
cd \fd

----end TICKOUT.BAT----

The program files2tg.exe reads the files.bbs type entry created by
TICK and uploads it to your TG filebase.

Now for the most recent addition to the FAQ set, a simple TIC.CFG
file. Note TIC is an older freeware program. It works fine but lacks
the frills of the newer simular softwares like ALLFIX. If you are an
end user, it will most likely suffice to the needs of your system.

---begin TIC.CFG----

IN C:\Fd\File\
ZONE 1 C:\fd\packet\
NET 275
NODE 100
TZ EST4EDT

AREA c:\TG\file\telegard TG_SUP
1:101/321 password *
1:202/323 * * ;downlinks the files to this node

AREA c:\tg\file\apps NODEDIFF
1:275/429 password *

STOPDUP C:\fd\file\temp\
TEMP C:\Temp
FIDO
mail c:\fd\Mail\
hold c:\fd\holdtick\
quiet
QDIR c:\Temp
LineFmt %3:-13 %1
ListName Files.Bbs
REPLACE
LOGPATH
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NoWait
---end TIC.CFG example----

Note that example was set for zone1, net 275, node 100. You will need
to edit it and the paths to match your setups. It is also set to
allow files to be deleted if the releaser set it to remove the old
versions (Replace option). In TG, this will not remove the entry but
it will remove the file itself.

Where it says 'password' you place the actual password you and your
hub agreed on. If you have no password, place an * in that location.
Format is basically: AREA path password handling_codes

You can use * for both password and handling_code positions in
TICK2.10.

Standard names used in FAQ for batch files, and paths, not explained
elsewhere in the information. Reminder: You shouldn't actually use
these specific names, but once you change them, you need to look over
all references in your batch files and in FD/TG to match names to what
you actually used as appropriate!

C:\TG -- generic name for Telegard main directory.
C:\TG\MSGS -- Generic name for TG's main message base.

FRODO.BAT -- Generic name for the batch file used to start FrontDoor.

TICKOUT.BAT -- Generic name for a batch file to toss inbound filebone
to TG.

TSMAIL.BAT -- Generic name for a batch file used to manually toss
mail.

Time for many KUDOS/ BRAVO ZULUS!

For overall assistance, Kevin Watkins has been a DREAM!

For the idea we needed such at all: Thanks to Martin Pollard for
having the old 'How2Mail' file. It helped so many of us, I wanted to
try to make something kinda like it for others to use.

Comments and critics are WELCOME to reply here or in netmail to me at
1:275/100.

xxcarol
DPC USN
Norfolk TG Beta
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POET'S CORNER
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From: "David Gonzalez" <[email protected]>
To: "Warren Bonner" <[email protected]>
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I also like poetry but i'm not familiar with poetry in Eglish, AND i
have poems of my own; they're all in Spanish. But i'll translate
one of them for you for the fidonews:

The Sigh or Breath

A sigh is like a kiss;
and is a kiss that laments
not to find another kiss!

When kisses are born in our soul
they're born to search...
to search for some other kisses,
which search for others...
but they don't know where those are.

And when they don't find each other..
and meet one with another,
their delicate scent is consumed
in a cry of pain...

That painful note is the Sigh
that we might heave...
and the air of the sigh,
is the breath of the kiss that is gone.

Kisses are born in my soul,
that search for other kisses...
and which die just like that,
because the kisses they want are yours;
save them for me.

by David Gonzales

That's my brute translation as my romantic English is not very good,
i hope you understand what i mean.

Dave
---

I'm a sucker for poetry and pets too.... <G>

Ol'wdb

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HUMOR
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Little Leroy was at home doing his Math homework. He said to himself,
"Two plus five, that son of a bitch is seven. Three plus six, that son
of a bitch is nine". At that moment, his mother comes in and hears
what he is saying. "Leroy, what are you doing?! Why are you saying
that?!" Little Leroy answered, "I'm doing my Math homework, Mom". She
said, "And is that what your teacher taught you?" He replied, "Yes"

The next day, the mother, worried about the education her son is
receiving, goes to Little Leroy's school to talk to the teacher.

The mother said to his Math teacher, "I would like to know what you
are teaching my son in Math?"

The teacher replied, "Right now, we are learning addition problems."
Little Leroy's mother asked, "And... are you teaching them to say two
plus two, that son of a bitch is four?"

When the teacher stopped laughing she replied. "Not at all! What I
taught them was two plus two THE SUM OF WHICH IS four."

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The Argument:
A man and his wife were having an argument in bed. He finally
jumped up and took a blanket to the couch.

The next day the wife feeling bad about what happened decided
to buy her husband a gift, and since he was an avid golfer she went
to the pro shop where he usually played golf.

She talked with the pro and he suggested a putter and he
showed her one of his finest.
"How much is it?" she asked.
"One hundred and fifty dollars," he replied.

She felt that was kind of expensive and told him so.
"But it comes with an inscription," he said.
"What kind of inscription?" she asked.

"Whatever you wish," he explained, "but one of the old golfers
favorites is, NEVER UP, NEVER IN.'"
"OH, that will never do!" exclaimed the wife. "That's what started
the argument in the first place!"

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THE PROCTOLOGIST EXAM

A man went into the proctologist's office for his
first exam. The doctor told him to have a seat in
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the examination room and that he would be with him
in just a few minutes. When the man sat down
and began observing the tools, he noticed there
were 3 items on a stand next to the doctor's desk.
1. A tube of K-Y jelly
2. A rubber glove
3. A beer

When the doctor finally came in, the man said "Look
Doc, I'm a little confused. This is my first exam. I
know what the K-Y is for, and I know
what the glove is for, but can you tell me what the
BEER is for?"

At that the doctor became noticeably outraged and
stormed over to the door. The doc flung the door
open and yelled to his blonde nurse........

"Nurse! I said A BUTT LIGHT.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A guy is walking along when suddenly he got his foot caught
stuck in some railroad tracks. He tried to get it out but it
was really stuck in there well. He heard a noise and turned
around to see a train coming. He panicked and started to
pray, "God, please get my foot out of these tracks and I'll
stop drinking!" Nothing happened, it was still stuck, and
the train was getting closer! He prayed again, "God, please
get my foot out and I'll stop drinking AND cussing!" Still
nothing.....and the train was just seconds away! He tried it
one more time, "God please, if you get my foot out of the
tracks, I'll quit drinking, cussing, smoking and having sex
with all the women I meet." Suddenly his foot shot out of
the tracks and he was able to dive out of the way, just as
the train passed!...

... He got up, dusted himself off, looked toward Heaven and
said "Thanks anyway God, I got it myself."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Four men were bragging about how smart their dogs are. The
first man was an engineer, the second man was an accountant,
the third man was a chemist and the fourth was a government
worker. To show off, the engineer called to his dog. "PC, do
your stuff." PC trotted over to a desktop PC, grabbed the
mouse in his mouth and promptly drew a circle, a square and
a triangle. Everyone agreed that was pretty smart.

But the accountant said his dog could do better. He called
his dog and said, "Tax Break, do your stuff." Tax Break went
into the kitchen and returned with a dozen cookies. He
divided them into four equal piles of three cookies each.
Everyone agreed that was good. But the chemist said his dog
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could do better. He called his dog and said "Measure, o your
stuff." Measure got up, walked over to the fridge, took out
a quart of milk, got a 10-ounce glass from the cupboard and
poured exactly 8 oz. Without spilling a drop. Everyone
agreed that was good.

Then the three men turned to the government worker and said
"What can your dog do?" The government worker called to his
dog and said coffee Break, do your stuff." Coffee Break
jumped to his feet, ate the cookies, drank the milk, dumped
on the computer keyboard, sexually assaulted the other three
dogs, claimed he injured his back while doing so, filed a
grievance report for unsafe working conditions, put in for
Worker's Compensation and went home on sick leave.

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By: Carol Shenkenberger, Shenk's Express (275/100)
To: Warren Bonner
Re: Fidonews submission
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The below announcement submitted to Fidonews in accordance with R13
election policy. Minor editing done to line length to fit Fidonews
format. Submitted by Carol Shenkenberger for the R13EM per R13POL.

From : David Calafrancesco
Subject : Notice for R13C election

Hello all!

This serves as official notice in accordance with our R13 election
policy to start the election for RC.

This election is to select the next Regional Coordinator, replacing
Carol Shenkenberger who is leaving the country in 5 months.

The schedule is as follows:

Announcement phase Feb 01-Feb 07
Declarations of Candidacy Feb 08-Feb 21
Questions for the candidates Feb 22-Mar 14
Voting phase Mar 15-Mar 28
Results & Challenges Mar 29-Mar 31

If we don't have a clear 50%+1 winner we will move into a second
voting/announce phase as a runoff election.

Balloting is our usual format:

System Node number
Sysop Name
Vote Password
Candidate name

If anyone has any questions, now is the time to get them out in th

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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be [email protected], but you get the idea.

Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
19/68 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS | 33.6k | n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3407/4 @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k |N/C
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

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Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* NFS = Linux Networking
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will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
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