F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 05 29 Jan 2001

F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 05 29 Jan 2001
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Warren Bonner |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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Table of Contents
1. HEADLINE ................................................. 1
>>>>>Header Fido 18 X 5<<<<< ............................. 1
2. CHAT WITH THE EDITOR ..................................... 2
3. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 7
-=-=GUEST EDITORIAL=-=- .................................. 7
4. LETTERS ACROSS THE EDITOR'S DESK ......................... 9
>>>LETTERS to the EDITOR<<< .............................. 9
5. OL'WDB'S COLUMN .......................................... 13
<<< Ol'WDB's Column >>> .................................. 13
6. TRUE STORIES OF FIDONET .................................. 14
*****Life's Reflections***** ............................. 14
7. RECIPES .................................................. 16
-=+Great Recipes+=- ...................................... 16
8. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 17
***GETTING TECHNICAL*** .................................. 17
9. HUMOR .................................................... 21
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10. QUESTION OF THE WEEK .................................... 24
+++Question of the Week+++ ............................... 24
11. ANSWERS OF THE WEEK ..................................... 26
>>>>>ANSWERS<<<<< ........................................ 26
12. NOTICES ................................................. 27
-=-=-NOTICE-=-=- ......................................... 27
13. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 28
14. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 33
***FIDONEWS INFORMATION*** ............................... 33
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HEADLINE
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Extra, Extra, Editor seeking dual language articles!!!

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CHAT WITH THE EDITOR
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*Chatting with the Editor*

Subject: FidoNet In South America. Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:02:40
From: "David Gonzalez" <[email protected]>
To:<[email protected]>

Hi

I want to submit my article about the topic of being on an area where
FidoNet and BBSing is not very common and how can us sysops make our
systems more attractive to people.

Hi!

I'm sort of a re-new sysop can I call it because I had my BBS some
years ago but a crash on my Hard Disk made me quit, it but now I'm
back on track, but when I restarted it surprised me the way things are
being done now. Telnet, Email, WebBBS, humm two years out and you're a
dumb oldie.

What I want to say is that here in Colombia as you may see on you fido
Nodelist (4:93/0, 4:930/0, 1) I'm the only SysOp around and even
though people is very unfamiliar with this kind of systems. they do
not know what TELNET or a BBS is unless they're studying computers or
Network management.

When I started my BBS in early 1995, Fido in South America was almost
dead and now it's even more, we don't even appear on www.fidonet.org
home page, what's going on?. When I asked for my node number I was
very enthusiastic about this and users were a few but they were
interested and called my system frequently.

Where I want to get with this is to make you think or better make US
think about how to keep our network from being left apart or letting
it die. it's true that Internet stole many of our users and has lots
more of stuff you know Pictures, Fancy graphics, those millions of
programs, you know I personally used 1 to get my BBS software and more
but I still think a BBS is a more personal way to interact with people
and and there are many features that we can make available at our
systems and as Internet is so useful, let's get it to work for us, we
can make our systems available at a web page with that nasty JAVA plug
in (I haven't been able to do so yet, any help?) and many more
features that we can use as links to our systems, and more.

Please make this thoughts available to all of your users and yourself
think about this and give us sysops ideas on how to keep our beloved
network alive.

I expect all your comments at the FIDONEWS Echo or:

Please feel free to contact and me and _DO_ so, via e-mail at
[email protected] or [email protected] or net mail to 4:930/1
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Or, Telnet at telnet://skynetbbs.thebbs.org and also don't forget to
visit my web page at http://skynetbbs.8m.com (soon in English).

David Gonzalez SysOp at SkyNet BBS 4:930/1 Bogota, Colombia.

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I apologize for losing the author's name of this submission.
(I could not find it in echo, net or email.)

Here in the north country, mOOse have been loyally posting to FiDoeNet
for many years now, despite being swamped with work running a
profitable Moose Factory or important businesses like Bullmoose Mines
or Moose Jaw Times.

Why?

Perhaps it's because FiDoe has always been friendly to four-legged
critters.

It is with horrour then that followers of the loyal order of mOOse
open a dog-eared copy of the recent FidoeNews 18:3 to find none less
than one of our illustrious FiDoe RC's promoting her recipe for four
pounds of roast venison - Canadian elk, moose or deer.

Like, take off, eh? The typical mOOse would much rather be safely home
in Moose Creek with a comfortable pair of antler warmers and a case of
cold Moosehead Beer than find themselves on someone's dinner table.

At least there's refuge for mOOse who would rather migrate northward
than become Carol's supper: MOOSECHAT, a Canadian humour echo for
noble mOOse!

MOOSECHAT is dedicated to equality for mOOse everywhere, including
chocolate mOOse, as well as liberty and justice for all.

MOOSECHAT is a shining beacon of freedom for mOOse everywhere, as well
as a handy way to contact key world leaders like Vlad-on-Mir Poutine
from Russia, Jean Cretin from the Great White North eh?, Saddam Insane
from Iraq and Chad from Florida. It gives mOOse time away from the rat
race.

It also provides valuable moose-related investment info from
organizations like Moose River Gold Mines, Elk Resources and John
Deere as well as sports coverage of key Senators players like Alexi
Ya$hin and Hillary Clinton.

In short, it allows the Canadian mOOse to, like, gronk farther and
louder.

Beauty, eh?

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From: "Kay Shapero"
To: "Warren Bonner"
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Subject: Re: HTML?
Date: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:33 PM

WB> Hi K!
My personal feelings exactly: I do not intend to stop posting in
Fidonews, I do not intend to stop the ASCII newsletter. I don't know
why you thought that.

KS> Because that's what the question sounded like.

WB> I am responding as editor to questions from sysops who want to
have access to improved versions that make use of their computers and
their abilities, and other languages with translation in English.

KS> HTML isn't really an "improved version"; it merely makes a "pretty
version" which isn't quite the same thing. The easiest solution to
this is to have a fidonews website, where you can read and download
the httml version, maybe a pdf version as well, and the ascii version,
along with archives of earlier issues. I might add if you're doing
html I recommend writing your own in a text editor - most html editors
are better than the hideously bloated Word for Windows html option,
but I've yet to find one I care for.

Meanwhile I'm all for other languages being involved, with
translations. One of the biggests nuisances about the Snooze is the
way almost nothing comes in from any zone but 1 and sometimes 2. 3 we
rarely hear from, 4 I find myself wondering if it still EXISTS,
similar for 5 and 6. Finding a way to translate this thing into other
languages might well stimulate submissions from people using same.

Theoretically this thing should append my sig with my site address,
but just in case it doesn't, I've got a site at
http://home.earthlink.net/~kayshapero/index.htm, with the net 102 site
at http://home.earthlink.net/~kayshapero/net102.htm

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By: Jim White
To: Warren Bonner
Re: FidoNews 18:3 [00/03] Ed
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I hope Ann doesn't mind if I piggyback my reply on hers, but we seem
to think somewhat alike.

FR> When are we going to take the giant step from ASCII only, to HTML?

AP> I hope that it will be NEVER if it means giving up ASCII. I
AP> am using a circa 1993 PC (486/33 with a slow modem) using WIN
AP> 3.1 and DOS 6.22 and do not have web access.

JW> Agreed. I was still reading on a 386, until I lost my BBS. I'm a
point for now, but looking forward to becoming a private node, and
going back to the 386 and WIN3.1 This works well, but I miss my
BlueWave.

FR>>> Should the weekly fidonews be a BI-Monthly newsletter?

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AP> No, it shouldn't. Even on a weekly basis, some of the news
AP> or opinion pieces are stale when published.

JW> No, if it becomes bi-weekly, it will only get larger. I think the
size is fine as it is.

FR> Should it be alternately ASCII and HTML? Or ASCII weekly, HTML
monthly?

AP> No, it shouldn't. People who can only read ASCII will miss
AP> half of every year's issues.

JW> Well said, but if someone wanted to put it on a web site for the
HTML desirees, it woudl be fine with me. Just don't mess with my
ASCII.

FR>> Should all sysops have the choice of which edition and format?

AP> No. All issues should be in ASCII and those sysops who want
AP> to offer it to their users in HTML should convert it to that
AP> format themselves.

JW> Amen

AP> Anne Page

AP> An everyday BBS user
AP> and Echo co-moderator

JW> same here

Jim White Co-Moderator of MEMORIES

Origin: My point is... (1:3613/1275.4)

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By: Warren Bonner
To: Anne Page
Re: FidoNews 18:3 [00/03] Ed
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AP> Thank you for using what I posted here in the issue of Fidonews
for which you had asked that I expand it into an article. I didn't
see your post until after your deadline and knew I couldn't comply.

AP> It was a pleasant surprise to find my answers to the questions
when I started reading that issue of Fidonews!

WB><Chuckle> Sure good to get a pat on the back, Anne! Thanks. Some
rodomontade respondents are not so generous toward the R10C, the NC's,
or the FidoNews editor. We decline to sink to his level replying in
kind. So again, thanks for the kind words.

Ol'wdb

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GUEST EDITORIAL
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By: Michael Grant

To: Warren Bonner
Re: Re: FidoNews 18:3 [00/03] Editorial
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FR> When are we going to take the giant step from ASCII only, to HTML?

MG> NEVER do away with ASCII.

ED> Guess I should have said,"to HTML a-l-s-o". I never meant to drop
ASCII; only give an option for those with better software for handling
photos and fonts a little more information.

FR> When are we going to branch out to two publications, one for ASCII
FR> and one for HTML.?

MG> Don't we already have that? Isn't that what www.fidonews.org is
all about? If you want, dress up the website a little, God knows it
could use it. Make the HTML display of the Fidonews a little nicer,
but don't change the basic ASCII format.

MG> I also think that the Fidonet websites that /do/ exist are not
maintained and promoted nearly enough on the Internet. We need some
committed individuals to do the legwork necessary to ensure there are
valid links between Fidonet related websites and Fidonet BBSes on the
internet, along with proper submissions to search engines. It should
be so that when someone types in "fidonet" in a search engine, a whole
slew of Fidonet-related websites would appear. That is just not
happening these days.

FR> Should the weekly fidonews be a BI-Monthly newsletter?

MG> No. When things are slow, there doesn't seem like there's much
news, but when something big happens, a bi-monthly publication would
contain old news about the incident by the time it came out.

FR> Should it be alternately ASCII and HTML? Or ASCII weekly, HTML
monthly?

MG> No, no and no! The ASCII format should remain unchanged as the
main Fidonews distribution, and the distribution of it should remain
as is. HTML should only be available from www.fidonews.org, for those
who want it, or perhaps the HTML versions could be distributed on
request via an e-mail mailing list.

FR> Should all sysops have the choice of which edition and format?

MG> As far as I'm concerned, we already do.

ED> You aren't ALL sysops. Others feel differently.

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FR> Editor would like feedback on these questions for next issue. FR>
Send replies to address 1:1/23 or [email protected] please. FR> We
need your input to make the Fidonews all it can be to all folks FR> in
fidoland.

MG> I think it's better to reply here, in public.

ED> Absolutely. That is the reason for this questionnaire in public
Fidonews echo, and represented in the publication. I thank you and
all others that participated on this issue. It is pretty clear that
folks with older machines without gigabyte hard drives want NO change.
And I promise as long as I am the editor, ASCII will be the first
format/protocol.

ED> Your and Anne Page's suggestions on the web page downloads for
those that would like a spicier version are good ideas, and only by
our talking about it can others see the merits of FidoNews in other
formats to attract more and more Internet users back to Fido.

Thanks again Michael, ED.

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LETTERS ACROSS THE EDITOR'S DESK
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By: Janis Kracht
To: Frank Robbins
Re: HeadsUp - FidoNet.Org DNS Expires 26-Feb-2001
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Hi Frank,

I got a hold of George and he so kindly forwarded this to me :)
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: Confirmation of fidonet.org renewal order

Dear Customer, Congratulations! Your Web address (domain name) is
renewed for an extended period. We will be processing your order
within the next 24-48 hours. Renewal of your domain name is effective
when your current registration period expires.

Here is a summary of your order:
* Domain Name*: fidonet.org
* Total: $35.00
Take care,
Janis

FR> Hi Janis.

FR> Did anyone tell you that you do good work?

JK> Thanks, I appeciate the comment <smile>. I agree with you that
this could be a little unsettling for those in Zone 1 until we knew it
was taken care of.

FR> Thanks for your effort as always.

JK> Most welcome,
Janis

BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag-2
* Origin: Prism bbs (1:2320/38)

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By: Lee Ayrton
To: Philip Lozier
Re: Points
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Hello Philip!

PL> * In a message originally to Jim White, Lee Ayrton said:

LA>> This brings up something I've been mulling for a while. Perhaps
it is time to give the franchise to points. with the demise of BBSing
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there's little reason for most of us to maintain full-time uptime.
Make points full members, allow more participation.

PL> This is something that over the past few weeks has crossed my mind
as well.

LA> On my part, it was part of a grander scheme that I'm still
coddling. The half-baked version is below.

PL> For all intents and purposes, a point that feeds over any kind of
internet method of distribution is of no difference than an ION node
when you look at it... and having a BBS was never a requirement to be
a FidoNet node.

LA> I still do things dial-up, from a DOS machine, so I don't know if
what I'm mulling is already in use. Roughly, I'm thinking that we
need software that, to an end user, will work like their favorite
browser -- fire it up and it goes to his/her ISP, links to an ION hub,
exchanges mail (net and echos), logs off and tosses the mail up onto
the local screen. FidoNews and nodediffs would be background
processes, unseen by the casual user.

Points are subject to the same rules as nodes, so the problems that
folks feared about linking the echos to the chaos of Usenet is
side-stepped. Become a nusance and your number gets yanked.

This does several things: It gives us many more potential members, it
puts Fido where the users are, it doesn't break the nodelist or create
a seperate Fido system, so we've got backwards compatability.

Traditional, low-tech nodes won't try to dial up an ION point, the
node would automagically know to send it to the bossnode. Bossnodes
would be the firewall against spam and would be responsible for
quickly cancelling any malignant points, making Fido attractive to
ordinary humans as a "cleaner" source of mail. ISPs would view it as
another mailing list, one that they wouldn't have to store their
user's mail for (Space would be a problem for the bossnodes, though.
Dunno how to address that). And we could add bells-n-whistles to the
ION side, graphics, what have you. They would be filtered out at the
gateways leaving clean ANSI texts.

But the really, really important thing is putting Fido where the
people are. They aren't dialing up BBSi ever again, so we can just
lock that fantasy away in our toyboxes. Private mailing lists exist
all over the Internet, we could promote this is a meta-mailing list.

Of course, this is just noodling. I'm not a programmer, I don't know
how to write such stuff. But some people in FidoLand _do_ and we can
stand around wringing our hands, or try to pretty Fido up, or we can
actually do something -- if we still have the critical mass of
tech-savvy folks needed.

Regards, Lee

* Origin: OPUS CBCS v1.79 LIVES! (1:320/455)

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By: Frank Vest
To: Lee Ayrton
Re: Points
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Hello Lee,

LA> I still do things dial-up, from a DOS machine, so I don't know if
what I'm mulling is already in use. Roughly, I'm thinking that we
need software that, to an end user, will work like their favorite
browser -- fire it up and it goes to his/her ISP, links to an ION hub,
exchanges mail (net and echos), logs off and tosses the mail up onto
the local screen. FidoNews and nodediffs would be background
processes, unseen by the casual user.

FV> Ok, I'm gonna take a stab at this. Please forgive me if I'm off
the deep end here. :)

Some of what you are wanting is already being done in some ways. There
is a program called "Internet Rex" (IRex) that will transfer Fidonet
mail via the Internet E-Mail. One can feed a Node, Point, Hub, Net or
??? in this manner. IRex will do the mail runs via E-Mail and the
Point package will do the tossing and such.

I'm not a guru on this, but I will tell you this much... I run Dos
with Desqview on a 486 and I feed a Net in my area via Irex on this
Dos machine. Once I get Irex registered, I'll be able to feed up to
1000 systems (Nodes, points, Nets or ??). I gather newsgroups via the
Internet and gate them to my BBS and any systems under me that want
them via IRex. I can gate E-Mail to and from the Internet via IRex and
much more.

Some of what you are wanting can be done now. It would be a matter of
putting together a package that is pre-setup with the programs, batch
files and whatever is needed in it. The user plugs it in and goes.

I'm probably off base here, but is this close to what you are
wanting??

Regards,

Frank

http://texoma.net/~flv http://bise.tzo.com/r19

--- PPoint 3.01 * Origin: Holy Cow! I'm A Point!! (1:124/6308.1)

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By: Philip Lozier
To: Lee Ayrton
Re: Points
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* In a message originally to Philip Lozier, Lee Ayrton said:

LA> I still do things dial-up, from a DOS machine, so I don't know if
what I'm mulling is already in use. Roughly, I'm thinking that we
need software that, to an end user, will work like their favorite
browser -- fire it up and it goes to his/her ISP, links to an ION hub,
exchanges mail (net and echos), logs off and tosses the mail up onto
the local screen. FidoNews and nodediffs would be background
processes, unseen by the casual user.

PL>Amazing... this is quite close to what has been floating around in
my brain... not being a programmer in any shape or form however, seems
all I can do is think about it...

LA> But the really, really important thing is putting Fido where the
people are. They aren't dialing up BBSi ever again, so we can just
lock that fantasy away in our toyboxes. Private mailing lists exist
all over the Internet, we could promote this is a meta-mailing list.

PL> I agree that Fido needs to be brought where the people are, but
totaly disagree that people will never BBS again. Even if it's just a
small circle of folks still calling various dial-up boards in their
areas, people still are calling... it is the "lazy SysOp" who will
have no users, not BBSs as a whole... there are also quite a few
telnet boards that brag high usage, and even a "PAY for access" telnet
system (not in FidoNet) that is based in my local area that has no
less than 10 to 12 people online at any given time, 24 hours a day. Go
figure that one out.

PL> I feel that making FidoNet available in a neet package to those
NOT interested in BBS themselves however would be a fantastic breath
of life... I have seen a couple of point packages out there that with
a little modification would be ideal for this purpose.

PL> Maybe some programming genius will stumble across this idea we've
tossed around and make it a working reality :)

* Origin: AFcom BBS! http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/afcombbs (1:267/169)

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OL'WDB'S COLUMN
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From: "Bob Crowninshield" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]"
Subject: Tradigy

George Bush is visiting an elementary school today and he visits one
of the classes (4th grade I believe). They are in the middle of a
discussion related to words and their meanings.

The teacher asks Mr. Bush if he would like to lead the class in the
discussion of the word, "tragedy."

So our illustrious leader asks the class for an example of a
"tragedy."

One little boy stands up and offers, "If my best friend, who lives
next door, is playing in the street and a car comes along and runs
him over, that would be a tragedy."

"No," says Bush, "that would be an accident."

A little girl raises her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50 children
drove off a cliff, killing everyone involved, that would be a
tragedy."

"I'm afraid not," explains Mr. Bush . "That's what we would call a
GREAT LOSS.

The room goes silent. No other children volunteer. Mr. Bush searches
the room. "Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a
tragedy?"

Finally, way in the back of the room, Li'l Johnny raises his hand. In
a quiet voice he says, "If Air Force One, carrying Mr. & Mrs. Bush,
was struck by a missile and blown up to smithereens, that would be a
tragedy.

"Fantastic," exclaims Bush, "that's right. Can you tell me WHY that
would be a tragedy?"

"Well," Li'l Johnny replies, "because it wouldn't be an accident, and
it certainly would be no great loss."

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TRUE STORIES OF FIDONET
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1. Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin
unprotected.

2. I'm not into working out. My philosophy is no pain, no pain.

3. I'm in shape. Round is a shape.

4. I'm desperately trying to figure out why Kamikaze pilots wore
helmets.

5. Do you think illiterate people get the full affect of alphabet
soup?

6. I've always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more
specific.

7. Ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you, but
when you take him in a car he sticks his head out the window?

8. Ever notice that anyone going slower than you is an idiot, but
anyone going faster than you is a maniac?

9. You have to stay in shape. My mother started walking five miles a
day when she was 60. She's 97 now and we have no idea where she is.

10. I have six locks on my door, all in a row. When I go out, I lock
every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there
picking the locks, they are always locking three of them.

11. One out of every three Americans is suffering from some form of
mental illness. Think of two of your best friends. If they are OK,
then it must be you.

12. They show you how detergent takes out bloodstains. I think if
you've got a tee shirt with bloodstains all over it, maybe your
laundry isn't your biggest problem.

13. Ask people why they have deer heads on their walls and they tell
you it's because they're such beautiful animals. I think my wife is
beautiful, but I only have photographs of her on the walls.

14. A lady came up to me on the street, pointed at my suede jacket and
said, "Don't you know a cow was murdered for that jacket?" I said, "I
didn't know there were any witnesses. Now I'll have to kill you too."

15. Future historians will be able to study at the Jimmy Carter
Library, the Gerald Ford Library, the Ronald Reagan Library, and the
Bill Clinton Adult Bookstore.
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Subject: Longevity:
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Humans are the longest-lived mammals and giant tortoises are the
longest-lived reptiles, sometimes living as long as 150 years. Among
birds, the record is held by turkey buzzards at 118 years. But
thick-shelled ocean clams called quahogs hold the top longevity
record among all animals. These slow-moving mollusks can live more
than 200 years.

Quahogs are burrowing clams that feed on microscopic life they strain
from the water. They use their fleshy foot to pull themselves under
the mud, then extend two long tubes up into the water.

Native to the North Atlantic Ocean, quahogs are in great demand as
food for people, and as a result, those found near shore seldom live
longer than 10 or 20 years. Like many other North Atlantic life
forms, populations of quahogs have been reduced greatly in some areas
due to overcollecting.

Quahogs can be made into very good clam chowder:

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RECIPES
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OVEN-FRIED CATFISH

Qty Measurement Ingredient
___-- ------------------ --------------------------------------
2-1/2 cups milk
1 egg white
3 dashes Tabasco sauce
2 dashes low-sodium soy sauce
1/2 tsp cayenne pepper
1/2 tsp white pepper
1/4 tsp sage
1/4 tsp thyme
1/4 tsp marjoram
1 onion, sliced into rings
3 catfish fillets
2-1/2 cups cornmeal
red pepper (to taste)
white pepper (to taste)
6 slices, paper-thin lemon

In a bowl, combine the milk, egg white, tabasco sauce, soy
sauce, cayenne pepper, white pepper, sage, thyme, majoram, and
the onion rings. Add the catfish fillets and refrigerate for
2 hours.

In a shallow dish, combine the cornmeal with salt and peppers,
to taste.

Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.

Remove the fillets from the milk mixture and dip into the
seasoned cornmeal. Shake off the excess cornmeal.

On a non-stick platter, place the coated fillets. Dip the
onion rings first in the milk mixture and then in the cornmeal.
Place the onion rings on top of fish.

Bake in the fish and onion rings in the preheated 400 degree F.
for 10 minutes. Turn the fish over and place a couple paper-thin
slices of lemon on each fillet. Bake for 10 to 15 minutes
longer. Remove and serve.

Recipe from: "Roger's Cajun Cookbook" by Vernon Roger, published
1987

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=================================================================
GETTING TECHNICAL
=================================================================

By: Carol Shenkenberger
To: Warren Bonner
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Errorlevel Method- FD 2.12 and below only 15AUG98
Adapted for Fidonews, 18Jan 2001

Hello! For those of you using FD2.12 and below, this method may be
easier to start with. It's basically one big batch file and you dont
have to pass off to other batch files.

1. Go into FD config, and make sure you have assigned a number to
each baud rate connecting to your system. Use the same numbers I have
below in the 'frodo.bat' file if you wish or swap them to others and
match them in the 'frodo.bat' file to the new ones. It will be easier
and safe to use the ones I post.

2. Add the following to your 'frodo.bat' file or just replace your
old one with this example then add in what you need for your setup.

;---- begin FRODO.BAT----
@Echo off
c:
cd \fd
:Start

Cd\fd
fd
If ERRORLEVEL 253 Goto Mail_Out
If ERRORLEVEL 252 Goto Make_Node
If ERRORLEVEL 200 Goto FB100
If ERRORLEVEL 046 Goto 2880_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 045 Goto 2640_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 044 Goto 24000_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 043 Goto 2160_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 042 Goto 1920_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 041 Goto 1680_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 040 Goto 1440_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 039 Goto 12_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 038 Goto 9600_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 037 Goto 7200_baud
If ERRORLEVEL 036 Goto 4800_baud
If ERRORLEVEL 035 Goto 2400_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 034 Goto 1275_baud
If ERRORLEVEL 033 Goto 1200_Baud
If ERRORLEVEL 032 Goto 300_Baud

Goto end

:Mail_Out ; Gecho 1.11+ specific, adapt as needed!
c: ; other examples for other tossers later in
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cd c:\fd ; FAQ
AT H1 1
GEcho toss -NOMGR
GEcho scan
GEcho MGR
MBUTIL pack -renumber -link -purge
Goto Start

:Make_Node
If Exist c:\fd\file\nodediff.* Goto Node_Here
Goto Start

:Node_Here
Copy c:\fd\file\nodediff.* c:\fd\nodelist
cd c:\fd\nodelist
editnl
cd c:\fd
fdnc /f
Goto Start

:FB100 ;external event in FD to do 'stuff' as needed
CD \tg\FFS ;for online games and other items needed nightly
FISHMANT ; specific to FFS online game
CD \FD
mbutil pack -renumber -link -purge
cd \tg
INDEX SORT ALL ;TG Maintenance
INDEX BUILD ALL ;TG Maintenance
cd \fd
call tickout.bat ;Tosses filebone. See FAQ #3 for example of it
Goto Start

:2880_baud ;here begins the connection sequence
cd \tg
Telegard -b28800 -q
Goto Mail_test

:2640_baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b26400 -q
Goto Mail_test

:24000_baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b24000 -q
Goto Mail_test

:2160_Baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b21600 -q
Goto Mail_test

:1920_Baud
cd \tg
telegard -b19200 -q
Goto Mail_Test
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:1680_Baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b16800 -q
Goto Mail_Test

:1440_Baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b14400 -q
goto mail_test

:12_Baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b12000 -q
Goto Mail_test

:9600_Baud
cd \tg
telegard -b9600 -q
Goto Mail_Test

:7200_Baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b7200 -q
Goto Mail_Test

:4800_baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b4800 -q
Goto Mail_Test

:2400_Baud
cd \tg
telegard -b2400 -q
Goto Mail_Test

:1275_Baud
cd \tg
Telegard -b1275 -q
Goto mail_test

:1200_Baud
cd \tg
telegard -b1200 -q
Goto Mail_Test

:300_Baud
cd \tg
telegard -b300 -q
Goto Mail_Test

:Mail_Test
If NOT Exist c:\TG\ECHOMAIL.TG# goto Start
del c:\TG\ECHOMAIL.TG#
Goto Mail_Out
; note TG# means TGJ for Jam or TGS for Squish

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:End
---end FRODO.BAT----

Now that was a big 'frodo.bat' file!

For informational purposes, here is a rundown of some of the lines you
may not be familiar with:

AT H1 1 - This is a common software which is called AT.COM and
manipulates your modem. In this case, it is taking a modem on Com1,
offline. Depending on your modem brand, you may not need an extra
utility to do this. Both FD and TG have the capability of taking the
modem offline for you. It is there only for assistance of those
sysops who's modems wont stay offline with FD's codes.

EDITNL - This is one of the many nodediff merging softwares on the
market. Depending on your version, the addition of the /KILL switch,
will also delete the old nodediffs. It was included only as an
example, and you should use whatever you find at a local dial. Mergenl
is widely available and does the same thing.

MBUTIL - Gecho specific packer for message bases. See the 3rd FAQ for
other examples of tossing/packing sequences you may use for your
needs.

End part 2.
xxcarol
TGbeta Norfolk

Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS Norfolk VA 757-486-3057 28.8 Dual (1:275/100)

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=================================================================
HUMOR
=================================================================

From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: lololol

I guess my day has started off just great compared to this guy!!!
=============8<--------------------------

The Druggist Upon arriving home, a husband was met at the door by his
sobbing wife. Tearfully she explained, "It's the druggist. He
insulted me terribly this morning on the phone." Immediately the
husband drove downtown to confront the druggist and demand an apology.

Before he could say more than a word or two, the druggist told him,
"Now, just a minute, listen to my side of it. This morning the alarm
failed to go off, so I was late getting up.

I went without breakfast and hurried out to the car, just to realize
that I locked the house with both house and car keys inside. I had to
break a window to get my keys. Then, driving a little too fast, I got
a speeding ticket.

Later, when I was about three blocks from the store, I had a flat
tire. When I finally got to the store there was a bunch of people
waiting for me to open up. I got the store opened and started waiting
on these people, and all the time the darn phone was ringing off the
hook."

He continued, "Then I had to break a roll of nickels against the cash
register drawer to make change, and they spilled all over the floor.
I got down on my hands and knees to pick up the nickels; the phone was
still ringing.

When I came up I cracked my head on the open cash drawer, which made
me stagger back against a showcase with a bunch of perfume bottles on
it...half of them hit the floor and broke. Meanwhile, the phone is
still ringing with no let up, and I finally got back to answer it.

It was your wife. She wanted to know how to use a rectal
thermometer...and believe me, Mister, I told her!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: "cfarris" <[email protected]>
To:"Warren Bonner" <[email protected]>

Everything I need to know, I learned from Noah's Ark:

One: Don't miss the boat. <remember Iberian plane ride to USA> 8^))

Two: Remember that we are all in the same boat. <But some on bridge>

Three: Plan ahead. It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark.
FIDONEWS 18-05 Page 22 29 Jan 2001

Four: Stay fit. When you're 600 years old, someone may ask you to do
something really big.

Five: Don't listen to critics; just get on with the job that needs
to be done.

Six: Build your future on high ground.

Seven: For safety's sake, travel in pairs.

Eight: Speed isn't always an advantage. The snailswere on board
with the cheetahs.

Nine: When you're stressed, float a while.

Ten: Remember, the Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by
professionals.

Eleven: No matter the storm, there's always a rainbow waiting.

Twelve: The Ark had no Windows! Only a POOP deck w/rainwater.

Author Unkown

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A young boy came to Sunday School late. His teacher knew
that he was usually very prompt and asked him if anything
was wrong.

The boy replied no, that he was going fishing but his dad
told him that he needed to go to church. The teacher was
very impressed and asked the boy if his dad had explained
to him why it was more important to go to church than to go
fishing.

To which the boy replied, "Yes he did, Dad said he didn't
have enough bait for both of us.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A distraught man went to a psychiatrist and exclaimed,
"Doctor, I believe that I am possessed by an evil spirit."

After talking to the patient at some length, the psychiatrist
said, "You do appear to have a problem. I'd like to see you
again next Wednesday."

After a second session of psychotherapy, the pyschiatrist
pronounced his patient completely cured.

For the next nine months, the psychiatrist sent the man a
monthly statement for his professional services, but the
man wouldn't pay and refused to acknowledge the debt.

Finally, the psychiatrist took the man to court and had
FIDONEWS 18-05 Page 23 29 Jan 2001

him repossessed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Two blonds decided to go into business together, so they
pooled their money and bought a store in a nearby town.

One blond moved into an apartment above the store. Her
partner bought a house just outside of town.

One night the blond outside of town couldn't sleep. Finally,
she called his partner and asked her to look out the window
to see if they had remembered to turn off the store's
flashing neon sign.

The blond looked out the window and said, "Yeah we
did, no we didn't, yeah we did, no we didn't..."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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QUESTION OF THE WEEK
=================================================================

By: Frank Robbins
To: Warren Bonner
Re: HeadsUp - FidoNet.Org DNS Expires 26-Feb-2001
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Hello Warren.

Has anyone discussed the fact that the domain name for FidoNet.Org
expires within the month of February 2001?

The current "who is" states:
============================
01/23/01 23:00:11 whois fidonet.org

Query: fidonet.org
Registry: whois.networksolutions.com Results:

Registrant:
FidoNet Public Relations (FIDONET-DOM)
c/o Pennsylvania Online PO Box 6501
Harrisburg, PA 17112
US

Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Peace, George (GP11) [email protected]
Pennsylvania Online
PO Box 6501
Harrisburg, PA 17112
(717) 657-0000 (FAX) (717) 657-0132

Record last updated on 03-May-2000.
Record expires on 26-Feb-2001.
Record created on 25-Feb-1988.

Domain servers in listed order:

DNS1.PAONLINE.COM 216.220.160.7
DNS2.PAONLINE.COM 216.220.160.8
====================================================================

I was curious is someone is going to renew the domain name of
FIDONET.ORG again before it is stolen away from the FidoNet when it
expires?

Once the domain name is stolen, it would be very difficult to get it
back into FidoNet without paying some large fee to the new DNS holder!

Here are a few domain names which use fidonet:
==============================================
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01. http://asterisk.fidonet.lt
02. http://fidonet.fidonet.org
03. http://www.fidonet-deutschland.de
04. http://www.fidonet-revival.de
05. http://www.fidonet.ch
06. http://www.fidonet.co.uk
07. http://www.fidonet.da.ru
08. http://www.fidonet.fi
09. http://www.fidonet.gr
10. http://www.fidonet.it
11. http://www.fidonet.kazan.ru
12. http://www.fidonet.kherson.ua
13. http://www.fidonet.lg.ua
14. http://www.fidonet.lt
15. http://www.fidonet.net
16. http://www.fidonet.nu
17. http://www.fidonet.org
18. http://www.fidonet.org.ar
19. http://www.fidonet.org.il
20. http://www.fidonet.org.ph
21. http://www.fidonet.org.pl
22. http://www.fidonet.ph
23. http://www.fidonet.pp.se
24. http://www.fidonet.rinet.msk.ru
25. http://www.fidonet.rinet.ru
26. http://www.fidonet.tatarstan.ru
27. http://www.fidonet.uz
28. http://www.fidonetwork.com
29. http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.net
30. http://www.rincondefidonet.com
31. http://www.z3.fidonet.org
32. http://1609fidonet.virtualave.net
33. http://fidonet.virtualave.net
34. http://fidonet.webjump.com

If someone has some info about this action, it would be nice to know
that this is no longer a FidoNet crisis waiting to happen.

Thanks...

Frank Robbins
FidoNet (Resources - Support - History) Site
http://winramturbo.com/fidonet/

>>>Thanks for the Heads up Frank, the answer to your question is
in the "ANSWERS" section of this Issue of FidoNews.

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ANSWERS OF THE WEEK
=================================================================

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By: Janis Kracht To: Frank Robbins Re: HeadsUp - FidoNet.Org DNS
Expires 26-Feb-2001 St:
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Hi Frank,

Don't worry about it Frank. I will call George today if he isn't
planning on re-registering the domain name, I will take care of it for
Fidonet. Also please realize a few things: the registration is good
until February 26, and then Network Solutions lets it run a month
after that before removing the records.

Take care,
Janis

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=================================================================
NOTICES
=================================================================

By: Janis Kracht
To: All
Re: Nodediffs
St:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi folks,

It's been reported to me that two people have had problems with some
software like XLAXDIFF, and the ARC packaging of the nodediff from my
system with at least nodediff.a19. The problem seemed to be related
to the fact that the name of the interior file was in lower case. The
problem was solved by extracting the file manually, renaming
nodediff.019 to NODEDIFF.019 and rearchiving it.

If you are having a problem like this with your nodelist processor,
hopefully nodediff.a26 has been no problem, since I changed the
filename from lower case to upper case for the ARC version.

FYI, as David did, I release 3 versions of the nodediff in ARC, ZIP
and LZH format in the NODEDIFF, DIFFZIP and DIFFLZH file echos,
respectively. Sorry, there is no version of ARJ for linux at this time
<smile>.

If anyone needs to pick up a fresh nodelist, it is available on my
system in /pub/nodelist at ftp.filegate.net, or file request at
1:2320/38, magic name NODELIST.

Take care, Janis

--- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag-2 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:2320/38)

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
=================================================================

------------------------------------------------------
*Fidonet-related sites

. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
Last update: December 30, 2000

FidoNet
Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html

Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.r10.org
Net 102 http://home.earthlink.net/~kayshapero/net102.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Net 2410: http://www.vector.11.com/net2410/
Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 15: <vacant>
Region 16: <vacant>
Region 17: http://www.region17.net
Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
Net 124: http://www.dallasinet.com/net124
http://texoma.net/~flv
Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/

Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
FIDONEWS 18-05 Page 29 29 Jan 2001

Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
Net 5074: http://www.z2.n5074.fidonet.net
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
(Chinese)

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be [email protected], but you get the idea.

Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
FIDONEWS 18-05 Page 30 29 Jan 2001

v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
19/68 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS | 33.6k | n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3407/4 @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k |N/C
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-05 Page 31 29 Jan 2001

344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* NFS = Linux Networking
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Fidonet oriented news servers

news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net

Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)

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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, [email protected]. All email addresses
here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and
most especially, email addressed to [email protected]
will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com

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