F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 41 11 Oct 2000

F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 41 11 Oct 2000
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
LETTERS TO EDITOR ........................................ 2
3. COLUMNS .................................................. 4
HUMOR .................................................... 4
OL'WDB's COLUMN .......................................... 4
Techie Tech .............................................. 5
4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 9
TODAY'S JOKE ............................................. 9
5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 10
Fidonet Related Sites .................................... 10
6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 15
Masthead ................................................. 15
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EDITORIAL
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[email protected]

In Doug's last editorial, he was pretty specific in his description
of the British monarchy with respect to the FidoNet structure. It
was apparent to me that he was attempting to create an avenue for
the development of a method to emancipate the "commoners", (read
that sysops), from the battered deformed confines Policy 4.07. He
went on to suggest a "constitutional monarchy with an elected House
of Commons in charge".

This general specification and base plan may have real merit. It
could be the embryo for the future of FidoNet. Properly nourished
by the many sharp minds in Fido, a healthy rebirth of Policy can
be achieved to redefine Policy, and deliver a working platform.
It must be a document as simple as the rungs of a ladder to read.
One glance at any ladder tells the whole story. Anyone knows at
once that it has a narrow specific way to get to the top of it.
They also know that it will have to "fit" within the area of use.

With that in mind, build a new document, rung by rung... step by
step... to specify the "elected House of Commons" as Doug put it.
The present officers being "grandfathered", (factored) in the plan.
I personally like, "International_WWW.Fidonet" for a name. Let me
hear what YOU think, please, that I may modify the ideas presented
thus far. Bear in mind this is only a discussion of Policy 4.07.

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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NOTES that fell on the EDITOR'S DESK
[email protected]
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Ruth Argust has been very ill and just recovered enough to email me:
Hi Warren,

I have been in bed for about two weeks with a horrid case of the flu
and not able to even get near the computer. I heard about Doug's death
only a couple days ago and am still reeling from the shock.

There are very few really NICE people in Fido who are nice all the
time. Doug was incredible, always even tempered, always cordial,
always ready with a one-liner. I adored him and his death has hit me
harder than anyone will ever know.

I realize that I am too late to assist you but at least one person out
there (aside from Gerry) will know how deeply I am mourning the loss
of this wonderful spirit.

Ruth
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Carol Shenkenberger Sez:
Z1_echomail echo now open for use. Please config your boards.

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Gery Gilmore shouted:
Personally I'd like to see ONE echo where a Moderator can at least
request an echo be ADDED or REMOVED on all backbones.

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Vlad Hrusca announced:
R40.BAGOLA echo is a Jewish-orientated multi-language hebrew lessons.
If you are interested you are welcome! Lehitraot, Vlad

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President Lincoln Declaration
President Abraham Lincoln declared Thanksgiving Day an Annual Holiday
to be celebrated the last Thursday in November. The tradition begain
in the fall of 1621 when William Bradford, governor of Plymouth,
invited the neighboring village of Wanpanoag to join the pilgrams for
a festival celebrating the bounty of the season. This is a gentle
reminder that Thanksgiving is just around the corner.

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A SMILE costs nothing, but it creates much.
It enriches those who receive
without impoverishing those who give.
It happens in a flash,
and the memory of it sometimes lasts forever.
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None are so rich that they can get along without it,
and none are so poor but are richer for a smile.
It creates happiness in the home,
fosters goodwill in a business,
and is the countersign of friends.
It is rest to the weary,
daylight to the discouraged,
sunshine to the sad,
and nature's best antidote for trouble.
It cannot be bought, begged, borrowed or stolen,
for it is something that is no earthly good to anybody
till it is given away.
And if it ever happens
that some people should be too tired to give you a SMILE,
why not leave one of yours?
For nobody needs a SMILE so much
as those who have none left to give.
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T-T-That's A-All Folks!

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COLUMNS
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Roy Reed
[email protected]

The World's Thinnest Books

STAYING HAPPILY MARRIED by Elizabeth Taylor

BEAUTY SECRETS by Janet Reno

HOME BUILT AIRPLANES by John Denver

DOWN HILL SKIING by Sonny Bono

ATLANTIC CROSSINGS OF THE TITANIC by White Star Lines

HOW TO GET TO THE SUPER BOWL by Dan Marino

THINGS I LOVE ABOUT BILL by Hillary Clinton

MY LIFE'S MEMORIES by Ronald Reagan

THINGS I CAN'T AFFORD by Bill Gates

MY PLAN TO FIND THE REAL KILLERS by O.J. Simpson

THINGS I WOULD NOT DO FOR MONEY by Dennis Rodman

THE WILD YEARS by Al Gore

ALL THE MEN I'VE LOVED BEFORE by Ellen DeGeneres

AMELIA EARHART'S GUIDE TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN

AMERICA'S MOST POPULAR LAWYERS

DETROIT...A TRAVEL GUIDE

DR. KEVORKIAN'S COLLECTION OF MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES

MIKE TYSON'S GUIDE TO DATING ETIQUETTE

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[email protected]
The Van Gogh Family Tree
His obnoxious brother.............Please Gogh
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His dizzy aunt........................Verti Gogh
The brother who ate prunes...........Gotta Gogh
The brother who worked at a convenience store......Stop'n Gogh
The grandfather from Yugoslavia..........U Gogh
The brother who bleached his clothes white......Hue Gogh
The cousin from Illinois.............Chica Gogh
His magician uncle.....................Wherediddy Gogh
His Mexican friend....................Amee Gogh
The Mexican friend's American half brother........Grin Gogh
The nephew who drove a stagecoach.........Wellsfar Gogh
The constipated uncle...............Can't Gogh
The ballroom dancing aunt.............Tan Gogh
The bird lover uncle................Flamin Gogh
His nephew psychoanalyst...........E Gogh
The fruit loving cousin................Man Gogh
An aunt who taught positive thinking......Wayto Gogh
The little bouncy nephew..............Poe Gogh
A sister who loved disco...............Go Gogh
His niece who travels the country in a van....Winnie Bay Gogh

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Carol Shenkenberg

FAQSEC- Security for Sysops Dated: 6 OCT 2000

Hello all! Here is some general advice for setting up a more
secure system. Much of it will be applicable to any BBS software
so feel free to share the info about.

To start with, my software is a _very_ secure system. It has no
backdoors or known security flaws in the current release. What it
does share with every other software, is the ability for the sysop
to change the native settings in ways which may not be as safe as
intended.

1. Lets start with the archive conversion feature. Unless you
really need it, remove it. There are external programs such as
THDPRO which will scan for viruses and convert archives at the
same time. If you must keep it, you want to leave it set so only
the SYSOP can convert archives on your system. Now that was easy
eh? The rest will be just as easy to do.

2. Sysop access level. This is an area where you will be best off
if devious. Do you use the computer always at home? If so, there
is no need to allow non-local keyboard access with that account.
If you set SYSOP access to local only keyboard, no one can gain
that access unless sitting at your local keyboard.

a. Devious trick, dont use the main sysop account for
other than sysop functions. Make a second account in
your real name, with handle if preferred, and set it
basically at normal validated levels.

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b. Co-sysops and access levels. Now there are extremely
reliable co-sysops and very good reasons for having
them. I understand and most others do also, but the
new sysop does need to be aware the co-sysop access
can be a security problem. When possible, this is
the secure way to go about it:

1. Dont have any unless you really NEED one. IE:
Don't use it as a reward for being your 'best
buddy'.

2. If they live with you, or where the computer is,
set their access to require 'local keyboard only'
and it will prevent anyone from dialing in as them
and doing damage to your system.

3. Give them no more access than they *must* have to
do their job. If they only remotely login to handle
their messages, consider 2 accounts just like in
the sysop example above.

3. Look to the WFC (waiting for caller) screen and note almost
every sysop function is there in almost every software. If you
really want to drive someone crazy, remove the sysop menu access
from all other menus. If it just isnt there, it *cant* be used
against you.

4. Passwords. Encryption. Use it. This protects both you and
your callers in the unlikely event someone manages to get ahold of
your user information files.

a. Be aware of habits you may have developed as a sysop.
I can't stress enough the need to protect your system
passwords. Don't accidently use them on another BBS.
While drafting this FAQ, one feedback from a beta site
was about how he knows the system passwords on most of
the systems in his net. How? Easy, the sysops forget
and try it out of habit on his system, get an error,
then use the one th chose for his BBS. On some
softwares, this will leave your password sitting in
the other BBS's log file!

b. Don't use the same password in FD as you use on your
BBS if you also use FD as your terminal program. If
you do, one day you may find when logging into another
BBS, it
sends your system password as it trys to 'autoconnect'.
(There are ways around this but beyond the scope of
this file. See the FrontDoor documentation).

6. Keyboard remapping. This is when via file or othermanner,
someone manages to change your keyboard to say something like
'del c: /u' when you press the F1 key (or whatever they chose to
remap). Dont allow it. You have several choices of ANSI.SYS
type replacement files which literally dont contain the keyboard
remapping capabilities. For regular DOS users, ZANSI.SYS works
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well for most. It also takes up less memory than normal ANSI.SYS
does. DVANSI isfor Desqview users and works just as well. Other
common types are NNANSI and ANSI.COM.

a. ZANSI is the magic name at 1:275/100 for the Zansi
replacement file should you not find it locally.

7. Backups! Security is also making sure you can put your system
back together after a hardware failure. Make them nightly if
possible with a series of tapes or ZIP/JAZZ drive so that if one
goes bad, you always have a slightly older one to go back to.
If you have no tape backup, at the least backup your critical
files such as the userlist information, to floppy. If you have no
tape backup but have plenty of extra drivespace, a less than
perfect but better than nothing method, it is backup to another
directory. It is best if this is done to a separate drive.

8. Path statements. Define the Protocol path (DSZ/GSZ etc) and
the Archive Conversion path (PKZIP etc) with a full description
such as C:\protocol and C:\converts. Oh, and dont use those
default names! Neither one need be listed in the Path= statement
found in your AUTOEXEC.BAT.

a. Should you find it awkward to not have your compression
utilities on your DOS search path, there are several ways
to deal with that. I happen to use a little batch file to
reset my path statement to include my compression utility
directory. I just have to remember to run the other batch
file to set it back afterwards (or reboot).

b. Many sysops just list the conversion archives in the
path but leave out the protocol directory.

c. Now and again you will encounter a door which requires
one or the other be in your path. Best to look about for
another simular product without that need. If you can't
live without that door, be aware that it has slightly
reduced your system security.

9. The most common method of breaching any BBS security is by
taking advantage of flaws or oversights of third party programs
(upload checkers, protocols etc). When installing third party
utilities it's best to research the source to find out how
secure the program is and what you can do to ensure it is set up
securely. NEVER trust the author's claims. Instead, get
independant reviews if possible and solicit opinions of other
sysops. Often the best gauge of a utility's security is how widely
used it is. But don't let this fool you (popular is not 'always'
secure).

a. When in doubt, ask the sysops in your area what they use
and measures they take to ensure these utilities are secure.
Most importantly ask more than one person since no one person
knows all the quirks of third party utilities.

b. This text does not endeavour to suggest that any particular
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utility is
either secure or insecure. Claims of this nature which 'may'
be accurate at this time could be in error and may not reflect
future versions of the same programs.

c. When passing information to a door or utility, never pass
it more than it absolutely needs to function. 'More is not
better' in this case.

10. Some folks, just like to upload trojan programs. A Trojan
can best be defined as a program which does something other than
what it looks like it's doing. A famous one, looked like a flight
simulator, but actually reformatted the HD while playing.
Trojans do not infect other programs, but are damaging just the
same. To prevent the spread of them, mark your uploads to a
secure directory and do not autovalidate programs until you have
tested them out. This protects you, your callers, and the fellow
sysops in your area if they are downloaded before discovery and
uploaded to another system.

11. Doors, revisted. Don't assume because a caller sends you a
program, and begs it be added, it's 'safe'. Test it first. Even
if it looks like a common archive, obtaining the same one from a
safe source for comparison is a good idea.

Well all! This has been a collective effort of many. By this
point, I have had inputs from many sites! Special Kudos to:
Lars Hellsten, Don Johnson, David Muir, and Kevin Watkins. For
inspiration, thank Scott Raymond of a long ago security package
for earlier Telegard versions. Portions contain ideas from the
June 1994 IceNET News article (Copywrite) by Ken Harris, WWIV
Security: One Semi-Expert's View (with permission).

Feedback may be given in the TG_SUPPORT echo, or netmailed to:
1:275/100.

xxcarol aka Carol Shenkenberger
DPC USN
TG Beta Norfolk

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NET HUMOR
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One man's hobby was fishing, he spent all his weekends near the river
or lake, paying no attention to weather. One Sunday, early in the
morning, he went to the river, as usual. It was cold and raining, so
he decided to return back to his house. He came in, went to his
bedroom, undressed and laid near his wife.

"What terrible weather today honey," he said to her.

"Yes. And my idiot husband went fishing!"

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be [email protected], but you get the idea.

Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.

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v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
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Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/2 @ [email protected] | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* NFS = Linux Networking
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