F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 31 31 Jul 2000

F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 31 31 Jul 2000
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
Yes, Virginia, There is a Fidonet ........................ 1
2. COLUMNS .................................................. 2
Ol'WDB: Friendship is a Strange Thing .................... 2
3. NET HUMOR ................................................ 3
Rednecks never say ....................................... 3
The Old Couple ........................................... 3
4. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 5
Cows in Action ........................................... 5
5. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 6
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 6
6. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 10
Masthead ................................................. 10
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EDITORIAL
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Yes, Virginia, There is a Fidonet
Doug Myers

If the young girl who questioned whether there is a Santa Clause
were around today, she might wonder if there's really a Fidonet.
Her shiny new computer connects her to the World Wide Web at a
moment's notice, but there is no place to click on Fido. But her
folks talk about a place where they laughed and played... is it just
legend?

Dear Virginia,

So long as there are folks who can see with their imagination,
there's a Fidonet. The world you can see is a thing of beauty
indeed, but sometimes you can miss the beauty when it's placed
before your very eyes and you don't need to do anything to see it.
The truest beauty is that of your mind, but it takes some work on
your part to see it.

Clicking on a web site is a fine way to see a car you want to buy,
but to see a person, you need more than a picture. You need to work
at getting to know them.

Fidonet is a place where you talk with only words. The only picture
you see of the people you talk with are the pictures they paint in
your imagination with the words they write. Though a photo of these
folks may be beautiful indeed, the photo can seldom match the
glimpse you'll get of their true beauty inside.

More important, the beauty inside you will show as you become
practiced at writing with them. Though you may think you're
ordinary, you'll find that the beauty of your imagination is beyond
compare with the mere image of your skin.

It's a mystery, perhaps, why written words can convey images more
vivid than the camera hooked to your monitor... but maybe that's the
reason people still read books even though cinema stories have been
around for a long time. Fidonet is the place where only written
words are used, and yet some have never found a more vivid way to
talk.

Yes, Virginia... there is a Fidonet :)

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COLUMNS
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Ol'WDB's Column
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Friendship is a strange thing...

We find ourselves telling each other the deepest details of our
lives...things we don't even share with our families. But what is a
friend? A confidant? A lover? A shoulder to cry on? An ear to
listen? A heart to feel? A friend is all of these things and more.
No matter where we met, no matter how long we've been together...I
call you a friend. A word so small, yet so large in feeling, a word
filled with emotion, a word overflowing with love.

Truly great things come in small packages. Once the package of
friendship has been opened, it can never be closed. It is a constant
book always waiting...waiting to be read...and enjoyed. We may have
our disagreements...we may have our disappointments...we may
argue...we may concern one another...friendship is a unique bond
that lasts through all tribulations. A part of each of us goes into
our friendships...our humor...our experiences...our tears.
Friendships are foundations...necessary for life...and love.

Friends...you and me...You brought another friend and then there
were three...we started our group...our circle of friends...there is
no beginning...there is no end. Even though I don't speak to you all
everyday...or even as often as I would like to...You have all
crossed my path of life, and mind... in one way or another...some of
you I've only bumped into...some have walked a while with me... and
some of you will continue to walk with me...

But DON'T EVER THINK FOR A SECOND that since we aren't in constant
contact...that I don't think of you all...almost everyday. That
memory puts a smile on my face and coffee in my cup as the sun rises
each day. Thank you.

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NET HUMOR
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The Top 40 Things You'll Never Hear A Redneck Say...No Matter What.
Thanks to Ol'WDB

40. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.
39. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.
38. Duct tape won't fix that.
37. Honey, I think we should sell the pickup and buy a family sedan.
36. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken.
35. We don't keep firearms in this house.
34. Has anybody seen the sideburns trimmer?
33. You can't feed that to the dog.
32. I thought Graceland was tacky.
31. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.
30. Wrestling's fake.
29. Honey, did you mail that donation to Greenpeace?
28. We're vegetarians.
27. Do you think my gut is too big?
26. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.
25. Honey, we don't need another dog.
24. Who cares who won the Civil War?
23. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.
22. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.
21. Spitting is such a nasty habit.
20. I just couldn't find a thing at Walmart today.
19. Trim the fat off that steak.
18. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.
17. The tires on that truck are too big.
16. I'll have the arugula and radicchio salad.
15. I've got it all on the C drive.
14. Unsweetened tea tastes better.
13. Would you like your fish poached or broiled?
12. My fiance, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.
11. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.
10. Little Debbie snack cakes have too many fat grams.
9. Checkmate.
8. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.
7. Does the salad bar have bean sprouts?
6. Hey, here's an episode of "Hee Haw" that we haven't seen.
5. I don't have a favorite college team.
4. Be sure to bring my salad dressing on the side.
3. You All.
2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Darlin'.
1. Nope, no more for me. I'm drivin tonight.

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The Old Couple
Thanks to Roy Reed

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The little old couple walked slowly into McDonalds that cold winter
evening. He looked out of place amid the young families and young
couples eating there that night. Some of the customers looked
admiringly at them. You could tell what the admirers were thinking.
"Look, there is a couple who has been through a lot together,
probably for 60 years or more!"

The little old man walked right up to the cash register, placed his
order with no hesitation and then paid for their meal. The couple
took a table near the back wall and started taking food off of the
tray. There was one hamburger, one order of French fries and one
drink. The little old man unwrapped the plain hamburger and
carefully cut it in half. He placed one half in front of his wife.
Then he carefully counted out the French fries, divided them in two
piles and neatly placed one pile in front of his wife. He took a
sip of the drink, his wife took a sip and then set the cup down
between them.

As the man began to eat his few bites of hamburger the crowd began
to get restless. Again you could tell what they were thinking. "That
poor old couple. All they can afford is one meal for the two of
them. As the man began to eat his French fries one young man stood
and came over to the old couples table. He politely offered to buy
another meal for the old couple to eat. The old man replied that
they were just fine. They were used to sharing everything.

Then the crowd noticed that the little old lady hadn't eaten a bite.
She just sat there watching her husband eat and occasionally taking
turns sipping the drink.

Again the young man came over and begged them to let him buy them
something to eat. This time the lady explained that no, they were
used to sharing everything together. As the little old man finished
eating and was wiping his face neatly with a napkin the young man
could stand it no longer. Again he came over to their table and
offered to buy some food. After being politely refused again he
finally asked a question of the little old lady.

"Ma'am, why aren't you eating. You said that you share everything.
What is it that you are waiting for?"

She answered, "the teeth".

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