F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 15 10 Apr 2000

F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 15 10 Apr 2000
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
The Backwaters of Fidonet ................................ 1
2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 3
ECHO TALK - Cows having sex .............................. 3
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
Editor Pro Tem ........................................... 4
4. COLUMNS .................................................. 5
This Weeks Web Page ...................................... 5
Ol'WDB: Sayings ......................................... 6
5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 8
Internet Hoax ............................................ 8
6. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 11
Famous Cows .............................................. 11
7. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 12
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 12
8. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 17
Masthead ................................................. 17
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EDITORIAL
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The Backwaters of Fidonet
Doug Myers

Though I've lived in the same house since the late seventies, I seem
to have drifted from the mainstream of Fidonet into its backwaters.
Recently, I found that an echo I moderate, BFDS_MAIL, hasn't been
getting out to the rest of FIDONET since the millennium change. Now
this isn't a major echo - it was established for a small group of
people who still like to dabble in DOS batch files. It's not even
the main discussion area - most of the action is in the BATPOWER
echo. BFDS_MAIL serves primarily as a file announcement and
administrative echo for the Batch File Distribution Service, a small
File Distribution Network on the Filebone which specializes in the
small utilities and programs which enhance batch files.

I suspect that the echo has gotten lost one hop away from me. My NC
gets his echoes from David Moufarrege and, though I haven't made
contact with David yet, the echo seems to be lost to nodes further
up the line. In the course of figuring out what happened to the
echo, I discovered that I'm no longer getting such items as
BACKBONE.NA, BACKBONE.WW, and BACKBONE.Z1B, though I still get the
weekly NODEDIFF (with a few times missed). In ftping the
distribution lists, I find that BFDS_MAIL is still listed in the
North American Backbone, but has been dropped from the Zone 1
Backbone and the World Wide Backbone.

So I've got some fixing up to do...

I suppose I could write an editorial crying that FIDONET is falling
apart, blaming everyone and his uncle for the botched echo handling
and file handling, take my node down in protest, and just surf the
internet for the rest of my life. But I'll tell you why I won't:

First of all, the small group of batch power nuts with which I
associate ARE FIDNET. Oh, not all of it... but they're the spirit
of Fido. The power of Fido has always been in the ability of small,
specialized groups to work together in a manner of their choosing in
ways which wouldn't be possible without the larger Fidonet
structure. Certainly the internet sports its newsgroups for batch
file enthusiasts, but for some reason it doesn't seem as "homey" as
the echo structure of FIDONET. So the small little administrative
echo is worth reestablishing just for the continued association of
the small group using it.

Secondly, I'm the guy who's drifted into the backwaters of Fidonet.
When George Peace left Fidonet and connections to my local net
began failing, I held onto the local net concept even though the
evidence was in that one must make reliable connections to one of
the major hubs in order to fully participate in Fido. Both John
Souvestre and Bob Seaborn offered me such free connections... all I
needed to do was master the art of moving mail via the internet.
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But I had other things going on in my life, and I procrastinated.

I suppose that getting my little corner of FIDONET working again is
not going to be insurmountable - people here have always been
generous in their helpfulness when I've paid enough attention to ask
for the help. And maybe this illustrates what FIDONET will need to
remain viable for the future - just folks like me paddling out of
the backwaters from time to time.

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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. -- -- -- -- -- ECHO TALK -- -- -- -- -- .
| Food for thought from Fido's echomail. |
| Purloined without permission by D Myers |
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In this week's Echo Talk, we eavesdrop as Tilman Moser addresses the
strange desires of Andrei Fomenko in the FIDONEWS echo.

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AF> We saw many cows in FIDONEWS... Can be there anything more
AF> interesting? e.g. cow having sex:)

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ARTICLES
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Editor Pro Tem
Doug Myers

There's a strong prospect that I'll elect to undergo heart surgery
after April. While I'm considered highly likely to recover from the
surgery without complications, it is nevertheless major surgery and
will require a few weeks hospitalization. I posted this information
in the FIDONEWS echo last week, seeking someone to serve as Editor
Pro Tem in my absence, and was delighted to get offers from Bobby
Queen and Peter Karlsson - two highly qualified individuals.
I figured that since the surgery will probably be in May, I should
accept the first credible offer so that I can get software and
instructions to the Editor Pro Tem with adequate time to modify batch
files and run a few practice editions. Bobby's offer arrived
first, so he got the nod; I've got to confess that if I'd seen both
offers at once I'd have had a hard time deciding between the two :)

This week, I'll be sending Bobby Queen an archive containing the
software necessary to put out Fidonews. Hopefully, I've made it
easy to customize for his system with the notes I've put in the
batch files, but there's time for us to talk back and forth to iron
out any difficulties. What I'll ask Bobby to do is put out Fidonews
for the time I'm unable. Most likely, I'll be back without undue
delay, but in the event things go badly, I'll ask in advance for
Bobby to either assume the Editor position or select an Editor if
he's unwilling to do it permanently. I'll also send Bobby the elist
password for the FIDONEWS echo and ask him to take over as moderator
in my absence.

I've asked Peter Karlsson if he would mind my sending him the
materials I send Bobby, to serve as a backup for him. That may be
overly cautious on my part, but why not avail myself of the
dedication of these two individuals?

For my own part, I'm confident that my absence from Fidonet will be
only temporary. Though I'm not a "perfect" heart patient (diabetes
complicates things a little), I'm only 53 and in good health
otherwise; the doctors estimate that my chances of coming through
the surgery without complications are high. Except for this small
setback, my life is coming together nicely after a long divorce, and
I'm making future plans assuming that I'll be around for quite a
while :)

Thanks in advance to Bobby and Peter for their service to FIDONEWS.
I'll go into the hospital resting a little easier knowing the SNOOZE
is in good hands.

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COLUMNS
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This Weeks Web Page
by Frank Vest
1:124/6308(.1)

What: Welcome to the Net2410 Home Page!

Where: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/

This is the Net2410 Home page. Nice work here. Logo that is simple
but gets the message across and buttons along the side of the page
that change with each page to help you keep track of where you are.
Here's a cut & paste of the main information available on this site.

---- cut
Here you'll find:

Listings of the Fidonet BBS systems in Wayne County, Michigan.
Information on Fidonet & Net2410 for BBS sysops and users.
Information for BBS sysops on how to join Net2410. Fidonet support
files.

We hope you enjoy your visit. Please check out some of our local BBS
systems, we're sure you'll find one that meets your needs.

---- cut

The first button is the main page, of course. :-))

Choosing the second button will take you to the "About Net2410"
page. The information is good here. Short, to the point and
informational. An invitation is given to join the Net or call the
BBS' in the Net.

Choosing the Third button will take you to a "Support" page. This
is mainly a download page for files, but has some good information
and file descriptions as well. If I were to look at this page in
interest of becoming a Sysop or joining Fidonet, I'd at least know
what files I needed. :)

Choosing the forth button was the only disappointment of the whole
site. It is supposed to be the list of Systems in the Net, but it
came up blank. :( I'm sure this is being worked on.

The fifth and final button is mainly for Sysops of the Net. It's
the "Meetings & Elections" page. While this page might not be of
interest to most, it does tell of a decision of Net2410 to eliminate
their CRP. After reading this decision, I say "Hats off" to a Net
that will work together to better the Net! :)

All in all, a very nice page. Drop by when you have a chance and
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look this one over.

Best regards,

Frank
[email protected]

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"Sayings"
brought to my attention
[email protected]

THINGS WILL ROGERS NEVER SAID
----------------------------------
(but probably wishes he had)

--Every teen-ager should get a high school education -- even if they
already know everything

--Some things that cost $5 to buy several years ago now costs $10
just to repair

--A synonym is a word you use in place of one you can't spell

--Here's a new invention -- a solar-powered clothes dryer. It's
called a clothes line

--Leaders go down in history -- some farther down than others

--Any man who laughs at women's clothes has never paid the bill for
them

--For every judge operating in an official capacity, there are 100
who are self-appointed

--It is when we forget ourselves that we do things that are most
likely to be remembered

--The more you know, the more you know you ought to know

--The argument you just won with your spouse isn't over yet

So TRUE
---------------------------------
Ever wonder why the IRS calls it Form 1040?

Because for every $50 that you earn, you get 10 and they get 40,
because of hidden other taxes on everything you buy.

Telenet:??The Last Stop.osirusoft.com
ICQ # 17773628
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NET HUMOR
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Internet Hoax
Thanks to [email protected]

1. Big companies don't do business via chain letters.
Bill Gates is not giving you $1000, and Disney is not
giving you a free vacation. There is no baby food
company issuing class-action checks. Procter and
Gamble is not part of a satanic cult or scheme, and
its logo is not satanic. MTV will not give you
backstage passes if you forward something to the most
people. Honda won't give you a new car either! You can
relax; there is no need to pass it on "just in case it's
true". Furthermore, just because someone said in a message,
four generations back, that "we checked it out and it's
legit", does not actually make it true.

2. There is no kidney theft ring in New Orleans. No
one is waking up in a bathtub full of ice, even if a
friend of a friend swears it happened to their cousin.
If you are hell-bent on believing the kidney-theft
ring stories, please see:
http://urbanlegends.tqn.com/library/weekly/aa062997.html

And I quote: "The National Kidney Foundation has
repeatedly issued requests for actual victims of organ
thieves to come forward and tell their stories. None
have." That's "none" as in "zero". Not even your
friend's cousin.

3. Neiman Marcus doesn't really sell a $200 cookie
recipe. And even if they do, we all have it. And even
if you don't, you can get a copy at:
http://www.bl.net/forwards/cookie.html
Then, if you make the
recipe, decide the cookies are that awesome, feel free
to pass the recipe on.

4. If the latest NASA rocket disaster(s) DID contain
plutonium that went to particulate over the eastern
seaboard, do you REALLY think this information would
reach the public via an AOL chain letter?

5. There is no "Good Times" virus. In fact, you
should never, ever, ever forward any email containing
any virus warning unless you first confirm that an
actual site of an actual company that actually deals
with viruses. Try: http://www.norton.com And even
then, don't forward it. We don't care. And you cannot
get a virus from a flashing IM or email, you have to
download....ya know, like, a FILE!
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6. There is no gang initiation plot to murder any
motorist who flashes headlights at another car driving
at night without lights.

7. If you're using Outlook, IE, or Netscape to write
email, turn off the "HTML encoding." Those of us on
Unix shells can't read it, and don't care enough to
save the attachment and then view it with a web
browser, since you're probably forwarding us a copy of
the Neiman Marcus Cookie Recipe anyway.

8. If you still absolutely MUST forward that
10th-generation message from a friend, at least have
the decency to trim the eight miles of headers showing
everyone else who's received it over the last 6
months. It sure wouldn't hurt to get rid of all the ""
that begin each line either. Besides, if it has gone
around that many times we've probably already seen it.

9. Craig Shergold (or Sherwood, or Sherman, etc.)
in England is not dying of cancer or anything else at
this time and would like everyone to stop sending him
their business cards. He apparently is no longer a
"little boy" either.

10. The "Make a Wish" foundation is a real
organization doing fine work, but they have had to
establish a special toll free hot line in response to
the large number of Internet hoaxes using their good
name and reputation. It is distracting them from the
important work they do.

11. If you are one of those insufferable idiots who
forwards anything that "promises" something bad will
happen if you "don't," then something bad will happen
to you if I ever meet you in a dark alley.

12. Women really are suffering in Afghanistan, and
PBS and NEA funding are still vulnerable to attack
(although not at the present time) but forwarding an
e-mail won't help either cause in the least. If you
want to help, contact your local legislative
representative, or get in touch with Amnesty
International or the Red Cross. As a general rule,
e-mail "signatures" are easily faked and mean nothing
to anyone with any power to do anything about whatever
the competition is complaining about.

13) IBM is not giving away free computers because
Netscape bought AOL.

14) A little dog (or any picture) is not going to
pop up on the screen if you forward an email to any
number of people.

15) Neither the GAP nor Abercrombie & Fitch are giving
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away free clothes or gift certificates.

16) The US Postal Service is not going to stop
printing Black Heritage Stamps because Black people
are not buying them.

17) I know this is a touchy one for some of you, and
you and you alone know your relationship with
Almighty God but, you will not go to hell or suffer some
catastrophic event if you break the prayer circle.

(PS: There is no bill pending before Congress that
will allow long-distance companies to charge you for
using the Internet.)

Bottom Line ... composing e-mail or posting something
on the Net is as easy as writing on the walls of a
public restroom. Don't automatically believe it until
it's proven false... ASSUME it's false, unless there
is proof that it's true.

Now, forward this message to ten friends, and you
could win a chance to spend a day with Elvis Presley
and Tupac Shakur :) tee-hee-hee

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COMIX IN ASCII
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Famous Cows

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Cardinal Cow-shing Moo-hamid Ali

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INTERNET INFO
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! = New entries this week
? = not responding
?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet

. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
Last update: April 1, 2000

FidoNet
Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html

List server:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 15: <vacant>
Region 16: <vacant>
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: <Vacant>
Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
http://texoma.net/~flv
Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/

Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
(Chinese)

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be [email protected], but you get the idea.

Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.

v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/2 @ [email protected] | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks

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Fidonet oriented news servers

news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net

Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.isonline.com
irc.killaz-r-us.com
irc.korombos.org

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