F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 02 10 Jan 2000

F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 02 10 Jan 2000
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
Every Thousand Years ..................................... 1
2. COLUMNS .................................................. 2
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 2
Ol'WDB visits NASA Lab for you ........................... 5
3. NET HUMOR ................................................ 8
Monkey Management ........................................ 8
Frog Noise ............................................... 8
4. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 10
Cow Circus: The Flying Cowlendas ......................... 10
5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 11
Masthead ................................................. 11
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EDITORIAL
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Every Thousand Years
Doug Myers

Ironically, the Newsletter of the Fidonet Community is being brought
to you this week by the person most out of touch with the rest of
Fidonet. A combination of personal illness and Y2K software
failures have left my system in sad shape - still running but with
many bugs still to correct. Moreover, Net 270 needed to establish
another path for netmail and echomail when George Peace left Fidonet
at the millenium rollover. These connections were working at first,
but for some reason stopped. Even now, we're receiving echomail
sporadically, and I'm not sure of the status of netmail routing.

Gawd! I hope we don't have to go through this every thousand years!

Rather than carp about the failures, though, I'd like to take an
editorial opportunity to thank the people who are moving mail for
Fidonet. I've criticized them in the past for the petty quarrels
and senseless power plays... but it seems that they are holding Fido
together right now. At least I've gotten my share of advice, offers
for help, netmails, even phone calls... letting me know that Fidonet
is still pulling together into the next thousand or so years.

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COLUMNS
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! = New entries this week
? = not responding
?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet

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Last update: Dec 26, 1999

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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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List server:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
Region 14:
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
http://texoma.net/~flv
Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/

Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
(Chinese)

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be [email protected], but you get the idea.

Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.

v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
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Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| $??/$10
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP | T1,! | n/c
12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo
106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | DS-3,5| $5/$15 mo
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/2 @ [email protected] | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks

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ROCKET SCIENTIST PEEKS INTO THE PHYSICS OF PROPELLANTS
Ol'WDB visits NASA's JPL Lab site for you.

While the term "rocket scientist" gets tossed around rather loosely
these days, Dr. Josette Bellan, a senior research scientist at
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, is the genuine article, spending
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much of her time pondering the mysteries of propellants at high
pressures and temperatures.

Dr. Bellan is currently leading research to help better understand
the intricacies of high-pressure fluid behavior, which could help
in the eventual use of powerful computers to simulate what goes on
in combustion chambers. That could result in significant cost
savings over the current rocket design standard, which is primarily
based on hardware testing.

Dr. Bellan and one of her associates, JPL's Dr. Kenneth Harstad,
are about to publish a paper in the International Journal of
Multiphase Flow that may provide researchers with key elements
needed to unlock the mystery of high-pressure fluid behavior.

The work, titled "An All-Pressure Fluid Drop Model Applied To a
Binary Mixture: Heptane in Nitrogen," due to be published this
spring, documents the accuracy of their model of a single
hydrocarbon droplet in a high-pressure environment, emulating the
conditions that propellants endure in combustion chambers. It also
pinpoints differences between low- and high-pressure fluid
behavior.

The model highlights the importance of a previously neglected
quantity, the "thermal diffusion factor," describing how a highly
localized change in temperature within a mixture of fluids can give
rise to a flow of one ingredient in that mixture compared to the
rest of the ingredients. Conversely, this factor describes how
local changes in ingredients can give rise to local changes in
temperature.

While typically playing no role at ordinary atmospheric pressure,
the thermal diffusion factor becomes important at high pressures.

"Because this factor is usually unimportant, quantifying it has not
been a high priority in the past," said Bellan, who holds a Ph.D.
in aerospace and mechanical sciences from Princeton University and
now conducts research in JPL's Thermal and Propulsion Engineering
Systems section. Reared in France, she earned a master of science
in applied mathematics from the University of Sciences in Paris.

"Our research shows that if we want to understand propellant
behavior under high pressure, knowing this factor is in fact very
important," she adds.

She points out that this model brings scientists a step closer to
creating realistic computer simulations of rocket, jet and diesel
engine combustion chambers. Long-term benefits will likely include
cost savings and greater design accuracy.

Those simulations may well lead to new estimates of the ideal size
of combustion chambers, because those simulations will now include
the thermal diffusion factor, whose importance has been proven by
this model.

This research has been supported by the Advanced Subsonic
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Technology Program at the NASA Glenn Research Center, Cleveland,
OH, and by the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, AL.

The Jet Propulsion Laboratory is a division of the California
Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA.

This interesting article was sent to me by JPL Newsletter editor.

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NET HUMOR
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Monkey Management
Ol'WDB

A man walks into a Silicon Valley pet store looking to buy a
monkey.

The store owner points towards three identical looking monkeys in
politically-correct, animal-friendly natural mini-habitats.

"The one on the left costs $500," says the store owner.

"Why so much?" asks the customer.

"Because it can program in C," answers the store owner.

The customer inquires about the next monkey and is told, "That one
costs $1500. It knows Visual C++ and Object-Relational technology."

The startled man then asks about the third monkey. "That one costs
$3000," answers the store owner.

"3000 dollars!!" exclaims the man. "What can that one do?"

To which the owner replies, "To be honest, I've never seen it do a
single thing, but it calls itself a Consultant."

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Frog Noise
Thanks to Roy Reed
[email protected]

A sister and brother are talking to each other when the little boy
gets up and walks over to his Grandpa and says, "Grandpa, please
make a frog noise."

The Grandpa says, "No."

The little boy goes on, "Please...please make a frog noise."

The Grandpa says, "No, now go play."

The little boy then says to his sister, "Go tell Grandpa to make a
frog noise." So the little girl goes to her Grandpa and says,
"Please make a frog noise."

The Grandpa says, "I just told your brother no and I'm telling you
no."

The little girl says, "Please...please Grandpa make a frog noise."
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The Grandpa says, "Why do you want me to make a frog noise?"

The little girl replied, "Because mommy said when you croak we can
go to Disney World!"

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COMIX IN ASCII
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\ \ Cow Circus:
\ \ (__) The Flying Cowlendas
\ \ (oo)
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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Masthead

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| Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, [email protected] |
| (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) |
| Columnist: Warren D. Bonner, 1:103/401, [email protected] |
| (Warren uses the pen name "Ol'WDB") |
| Humor: Roy Reed, [email protected] |
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| Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, |
| Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink |
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retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinion expressed by
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