F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 31 2 August 1999

F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 31 2 August 1999
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
Letter about z2.fidonet.org .............................. 2
3. COLUMNS .................................................. 3
FidoNet Via Internet Hubs ................................ 3
4. NOTICES .................................................. 5
Future History ........................................... 5
5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 6
6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 8
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,

Thanks for the details about the new Z1C. David Moufarrege is the
lucky one. ;-)

I see, your (Z2 beings) beloved Z2C still has'nt lost his sarcastic
bulls...! And when is he due to retire? Has been there for donkey
years. He must be getting a grey beard by now. :-)
Nice to be able to pull a leg or two, or whatever.

It's almost a year, that I took the 'job' of Editor. Yes, a year has
passed and what fun it has been and when one has fun, time flies. ;-)
Could I do it for another year? Funny you should ask, I doubt it.
But will see what time brings.

Happy reading.

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Submission
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:06:43 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Marco d'Itri" <[email protected]>
Status: RO
X-Status:

[Cced to Z2C.]

What happened to the z2.fidonet.org name servers?

The primary name server for the DNS zone z2.fidonet.org has been down
since an unspecified number of days (I noticed that only a few days
ago). The secondary name server does not reply to queries about the
zone.

What does that mean? It mean that no netmail from or to Z2 can be
gated and that messages already sent are bouncing after the five days
timeout.

Why there aren't more name servers for such a critical task?
Why the z2.fidonet.org hostmaster has not updated R33 MX records
when asked by the R33C many months ago and reminded many times since?
Is this person accountable to fidonet coordinators?
Why the Z2C did not reply to me when some days ago I offered two name
servers for the zone?

I write to fidonews in the hope someone who cares will show up.

Marco d'Itri <[email protected]>, 2:331/51.

--
ciao,
Marco

From: "Ward Dossche" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>, "Marco d'Itri" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Submission
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:28:33 -0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
Status: RO
X-Status:

Marco,

>Why the Z2C did not reply to me when some days ago I offered two
>name servers for the zone?

Is the Z2C not entitled to a few days time-off or do I need your
permission to go on holiday ... for not more than 3,5 days ... !

In August I'd like to be gone for 7 whole days ... is that OK?

FWIW, the keeper of z2.fidonet.org also was on holiday until today,
I've gotten in touch with him for a sollution.

You know something? I don't like it when people get on my back like
that in an accusing tone ... I work my arse off day-in and day-out to
keep this baby going, that should be enough in a hobby environment.
If more is expected then I will require someone to pay me a salary.

>I write to fidonews in the hope someone who cares will show up.

What's that good for? Blasting around something has never provided a
sollution, it only creates the opportunity for the Moravsik-alikes to
have silly and useless debates.

Ward
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COLUMNS
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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Zone 1 |
10/3 | Brenda Donovabn | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo
107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| ??? | n/c
2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 | David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c
221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/300 | Sean Rima | BinkP, UUE, FTP| 128k | n/c
254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 | Barry Blackford | BinkP | ??? | n/c

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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks

Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, [email protected], and
complaints to [email protected] .

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NOTICES
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Future History

10 Sep 1999
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

FidoNet:

Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
Echomail [pending]
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
List servers:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org

Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm

Net 264: http://www.net264.org/

Region 14:

Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/

Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/

Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19

Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/

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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org

Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido (English/German)

Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)

Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)

Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/

Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

Region 42: http://www.fido.cz

Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

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Zone 4:

Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org

Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

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Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

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