F I D O N E W S         Volume 16, Number 24             14 June 1999
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                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
       Ten years of P4  ..........................................  1
       Joe was right  ............................................  1
    2. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  2
       My Road Map - David Moufarrage  ...........................  2
    3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR  ....................................  5
       Snooze Suggestion  ........................................  5
       Fidonet is tough to join - Paul J. Bussiere  ..............  5
    4. ARTICLES  .................................................  7
       Z1C Election Conspiracy - Joe Jared  ......................  7
    5. COLUMNS  ..................................................  9
       ECHO TALK - Dissatisfaction 'r' us  .......................  9
    6. NET HUMOR  ................................................ 10
       The Easter Mass  .......................................... 10
    7. COMIX IN ASCII  ........................................... 11
       Cow with ceiling mirror  .................................. 11
    8. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT  ........................ 12
       Editor Pro Tem Special  ................................... 12
    9. NOTICES  .................................................. 13
       Future History  ........................................... 13
    10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 14
       Masthead and Contact Information  ......................... 14
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                                EDITORIAL
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                              Ten years of P4

    This last week, on June 9, we marked our tenth year on Fidonet since
    the adoption of Policy 4.07.  Will this be the year it's changed?

    Many regions throughout the world have adopted the practice of
    electing coordinators rather than simply appointing them as
    specified in P4, the International Coordinator follows a policy of
    allowing geographic exemptions for node listing which potentially
    abrogates the strict geographic organization specified in P4,
    internet only nodes are multiplying in Fidonet, yet one of the
    obstacles to their full acceptance is the requirement to be
    available for dial-up netmail during Zone Mail Hour, spelled out in
    P4.

    It would seem that the time is ripe for change - indeed, all the
    candidates running in the current Z1C election have spoken of the
    need for this change - and yet there is no plan afoot.  Will this be
    yet another year that we talk about change, and let it slide to a
    future which may elude us?



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                              Joe was right...

    ... when he pointed out a conflict of interest between editing the
    Snooze and running for election.  Only it didn't turn out the way he
    predicted.  He was concerned that I would use the seat as Editor Pro
    Tem to make an advantage in the election.  What's happened instead
    is that I refrained from writing the editorial here I would have.

    Were Henk back from vacation, and were I in the position of just
    another reader sending in articles, I'd have reprinted my thoughts
    expressed in the Z1_ELECTION echo concerning his accusations of a
    conspiracy in the SUPER-BITCH echo.  Instead, I'll refer readers to
    that echo if interested, and only make one observation on behalf of
    Fidonews:

    The accusations contained in Joe's article "Z1C Election Conspiracy"
    should be either substantiated or disavowed by the Election
    Coordinator.  These accusations and proposed actions go beyond
    simple echo moderation and have the effect of endorsement of the
    theories advanced.


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                             GUEST EDITORIAL
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                                My Road Map
                              David Moufarrage
                                 1:2613/404

    I have been pondering about a "road map" for Fidonet for some time
    now, for more time than I have been thinking about what I could do
    as Zone 1 Coordinator.

    Much of it is just like planning a trip: Figure out where you want
    to go, then look at what route you'll be taking and what you'll need
    along the way.

    However, unless you know where you are, you won't know how to get to
    your destination.

    Trying to figure out where Fidonet is, is a collective effort, just
    like our ultimate destination. This collective effort is carried out
    in discussions we find in our echos, FidoNews, and, to some degree,
    is reflected in conversations surrounding this election.

    So, where are we?
    =================

    1. The world is changing. The shrinking nodelist is a reflection of
    that change. It says to me that Fidonet didn't adapt at the rate
    necessary to retain its following. Fidonet needs to respond to those
    changes.

    2. Fidonet has gone through a change in attitude. The "top-down"
    structure of Policy 4 is definitely no longer desired by the
    majority of nodes I see posting in echos.

    3. Fidonet is still largely a POTS network. Fido/IP is still in its
    infancy. Fidonet programs are mostly text-based and more cumbersome
    to operate than the commercial Internet software bundled with todays
    PCs.

    Where does this leave us?
    =========================

    1. Now is the time to support efforts which get our arms around
    Fido/IP and its implications. We need to assure a cohesive network,
    where POTS nodes and IP nodes can continue to communicate with each
    other. This requires the development and approval of common
    standards. Those standards are currently being developed by the
    FTSC.

    2. Taking Fidonet into the 21st century will require that we listen
    to one another. It requires the ability to bring varying opinions
    under one roof. Fidonet is still a world-wide venture. We must treat
    it that way. We must strive to stay a cohesive network that uses
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    technology to better communicate and not let technology divide us.

    3. We must continue supporting our developers and try to attract new
    ones. New users can only be attracted by easy to use, GUI-type
    programs. Likewise, new nodes will look for more sophisticated bbs
    systems with features offered by programs such as WinServer, BBBS
    and EleBBS.

    Where do I come in?
    ===================

    I have been a node in Net2613 since 1994. My first interaction with
    the Fido "establishment" was in late 1994 when I was asked by some
    users and points to prevent the hijacking of an echo. I successfully
    lobbied with Mike Fuchs and Bruce Bodger, an experience that left me
    with somewhat of an unpleasant taste for policy loopholes.

    Within a few month I was elected Hub Coordinator, and later Net
    Coordinator.

    The nodes of Region 13 elected me their RC in 1997. The decision to
    run for RC was initially made because I wanted to avoid having some
    jerk stick his/her nose into every aspect of local business,
    something we were quite used to in Region 13. We were also used to a
    lot of fighting in our regional echos, something that has almost
    completely stopped. We still discuss and disagree, but the climate
    is generally friendly and non-abrasive. It is very much conducive to
    reaching consensus on issues.

    On a Zone-wide and Interzone level I have been involved in several
    areas:

    1. I actively participated in the search for, and nominated, several
    candidates for the "new" FTSC. All of my nominees were elected and,
    with the exception of [Craig Box, still serve.]

    2. I actively promoted the "multiple distribution system" concept
    which has led to the acceptance of a choice of uplink providers.
    This also promoted the emergence of additional free feeds.

    3. I have promoted the use of Fido/IP technology, interacting with
    FTSC members, developers, the RCC, the Z1C and the Z2C, to create a
    common standard and approach. As a result of my efforts, Zone 1
    introduced the 1:1/3xxx segment, which lists IP nodes in the Zone
    segment and raised awareness of this technology. I currently am
    administrating that segment.

    4. Together with David Hallford I introduced the INODELST FDN. This
    File Distribution Network distributes a weekly extract of IP nodes
    in a variety of formats. This FDN consists of a number of file echos
    which are available through the FileGate and the Filebone.

    5. Through interaction with a number of WC!5/WinServer nodes which
    wanted to join Fidonet I noticed the need for additional help files
    and tutorials. As a result I created a graphical tutorial on the
    setup of the Argus mailer, which allows a node to setup as a regular
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    POTS node or a Fido/IP node.


    There is a lot more work to be done. Much of the work ahead will
    involve creating consensus among nodes from all Zones. I believe I
    can help create that consensus. I have good relationships with the
    Zone 1 RCC, the IC, the Z2C and the Z4C, as well as a number of
    developers and current FTSC members. Most of all, I have good
    relationships with "regular" nodes all over. I have a track record
    in my net, my region, and, as outlined above, also on a Zone and
    Interzone level.

    ----------------
    Editor's Note:  The bracketed information in item 1 above, missing
    in the original text, was supplied by the author in echomail
    conversation.


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                          LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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           Message to : Douglas Myers @1:270/720
                 From : [email protected] @1:270/212
              Subject : Snooze Suggestion

    Could you please include a "FILE_ID.DIZ" inside the archive stating
    the Issue and Volume Numbet and also say a copy of the Contents?

        Thanks.

        BTW you're doing a great job...

            Regards,
                  Raymond
                     ICQ# 6612058
    --------

    Editor:  I've added a small file_id.diz generator to the batch file
    which archives the newsletter.  The idea of adding the table of
    contents is a fine one, but it was a little beyond my capabilities
    on short notice.


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                          Fidonet is tough to join
                              Paul J. Bussiere
                           [email protected]

    Forgive me, for I am new but just begining to follow up the Fido
    News. I have been a long time Sysop of a BBS up here in Bangor,
    Maine (USA). We've been running Wildcat! BBS since 1992 and
    currently run the Santronics WIN Server package, and their Platinum
    Express Fidonet program.

    Maybe I am that guy that is shouting to the stage from the back of
    the theater but I have to tell you, Fidonet has to be the most
    difficult of all the networks to join, yet its eyed as the best of
    them all.  While many BBSs were dropping left and right, the few
    that did remain and convert to offering access via the Internet have
    all but been ignored by the Fido folks for all too long.  My modem
    users quickly left my services in favor of the local ISPs.  As a
    result, I have no modem lines and haven't had them since 1996.  I
    get more visits and business from people OUT of my local calling
    range than I ever did with a modem line, so the old requirement of a
    modem line quickly annoyed me and convinced me Fido was slow to move
    with technology.

    But, thankfully, it appears things have changed.

    Now, I am in the process of getting my system configured to join
    Fidonet. Todd Cochrane has been key to getting me in Fido, as has
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    Andrea Santos from Santronics Software.  But where has Fidonet been?
    It DOES appear to be a monarchy of sorts, from this spectators eyes,
    anyways.  And the Princes and Lords of each region seem to pass
    along different versions of Fidonet policy towards Net Systems.

    Why is there such anxiety over Net-BBSs (or Web BBSs, as many of us
    call them)?  I think its amazing that some Web-Oriented Systems have
    endured the wave of the Internet.  But rather than Fido welcoming us
    in with open arms, it seems as though we are treated like a leper or
    something.  It seems that all to many measure a BBS merely by if you
    have a modem attached to your system.  That seems prejudiced, at
    best.  If I know I have no modem callers anymore, why should I
    invest in the cost of a modem and a reccuring monthly bill?  Just
    for the namesake of 'qualifying' to carry Fidonet?  I think not.

    And that's why I have joined other systems that have seen the light.
    RIME/RelayNet has been the easiest network of all to join.  I have
    recommended and seen many Sysops join RIME and gleefully welcome the
    1,200 or so messages a day filter in through their systems.  Sure,
    its not Fidonet, but you dont have to be a politician to get in.

    But I digress...

    IF Fidonet is truly trying to pull in new nodes, you folks have to
    see the big picture.  BBSs are on the decline.  Many are either gone
    or on the way. Then again, many have jumped onto the Internet, like
    myself, and found a niche for themself (like in my case, we host
    several websites for customers)...others have gone from large BBS to
    very successful ISP.  And of course, there are some BBSs out there
    that seem lost in time, still chugging along, taking numerous ANSI
    calls a day over their modem lines. And I envy them.

    DONT make it a royal act of congress to get in.  Here's a daring
    thought...how about INVITING systems to join in?  Why not have other
    Sysops mention it to sysops that are not in the network?  Fido has
    always struck me as an elitist click of people...you are required to
    run special software, follow huge rules and regulations, and you are
    effectively assimilated into some huge collective.  I'm finding
    (thanks to the aforementioned folks) that Fido DOES have a lot to
    offer, once you wade your way through the crap.  You folks need a
    facelift, and some attitudes need changing.  You can grimace and
    despair and the number of systems dwindling from your network...or
    you can make a valiant effort to remdy it some, by showing folks
    that you truly want more Nodes and welcome those that have gone to
    the Internet as a means to stay connected.

    Sorry for the rant, I open it has fallen on an open mind.

    Paul J. Bussiere
    President
    CheckSix.Net | Check Six! BBS
    web http://www.checksix.net
    telnet bbs.checksix.net


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                                ARTICLES
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    Z1C Election Conspiracy
    * By Joe Jared 1:103/301@fidonet [email protected]

    To those of you confused, this is a response to the
    participants of the super_bitch echo.  As soon as a full
    archive is made available to me, I'm quite sure I will be
    sickened even more by some of our participants in the
    z1_election echo, but in the mean time some changes have
    been made to this article to complete a few thoughts, seeing
    as my tosser stole the message out from under me and sent it
    upstream before it could be completed.  To continue...

    I just finished reading 80 messages in the super_bitch echo,
    and am completely discusted with the lack of maturity of you
    individuals.  Anyone who has actively participated in that
    echo at the level I've seen will be cut if their post
    attacks a candidate in any way and is dated after June 12th.

    In particular:

    Ruth Argust:
    Get a life.  If you think anything you do would change my
    opinion of any candidate, you need to rethink things.  Even
    before reading that echo I suspected what you were up to,
    and sent notices to you.  In your case, the date is June 11.
    In particular, your coordination of this effort to ruin this
    election is something that at some level should require
    punishment. Fortunately for you, this is echomail, but your
    tampering with the election is something that should be
    considered at bare minimum, annoying.  My own personal
    choice of who I would want Has no bearing on this.  Fair is
    fair, and what you are doing is wrong.  Additionally, as
    Douglas Myers posted, I think you should consider the fact
    that a year ago, when we in region 10 were all fighting
    against a conspiracy to have you excommunicated, you in turn
    have become a conspirator.

    "Lesley-Dee" Dylan:
    Your proposed attacks of Dallas Hinton because Todd is "dead
    in the water" will result in you being treated in like
    manner.

    Other participants in the super_bitch echo:
    Guilt by association.  If anyone of you participating in
    this echo berates, baits, taunts, or otherwise attacks a
    candidate, you will be cut from z1_election.  As soon as my
    archives of that echo are received, I will start taking
    names out of it.  If I find less than honorable
    participation you will be put on notice one time and then
    cut.

    Douglas Myers:
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    Thank you for your high road message.  I would suggest that
    you disassociate yourself from the participants of the
    super_bitch echo, so that at bare minumum, you could get a
    fair shake at the election.  What they are doing isn't fair,
    and isn't right.  Then again, who knows what I find in the
    entire super_bitch archive.  If you were active then, and
    ultimately chose to take the "high road", my hat's off to
    you.

    Summary:
    The participants of the super_bitch echo owe Zone 1 an
    appology. Whether or not it will ever be seen is
    questionable, but it's a debt owed.  You couldn't have
    thought even in your wildest imaginations that you would get
    away with this, could you?  Seriously!

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                                 COLUMNS
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                . -- -- -- -- -- ECHO TALK -- -- -- -- -- .
                | Food for thought from Fido's echomail.  |
                | Purloined without permission by D Myers |
                ` -- -- -- -- -- --  -  -- -- -- -- -- -- '

    Overheard in the Z1_POLITICAL echo this week, David Hallford
    expresses his dissatisfaction with the Zone 1 Coordinator election.

    --------------------------------------------

     > I'm sure there will be considerable second- guessing no matter
     > what the outcome of the election, but open processes in general
     > yield satisfactory results.

    Hi Douglas,

    The tomato season is right around the corner and I will be a little
    busy so I would like to go ahead and voice my dissatisfaction now.
    Please fill in the blanks at the appropriate time.

                                       Thanks,
                                        Dave
    =============================================

    Jesus H. Keerist am I pissed about this election! It's obvious to
    the most dense person on the face of the earth that ______________
    should have won and it was only due to the conspirital machinations
    of ___________, __________, and _____________ that the will of the
    SysOps was denied and their candidate ______________ was installed
    as per their pre-ordained election outcome.
    The chances now of progress for Fidonet in the area of ____________
    is now non-existant. The ability to accomplish ____________ will
    never happen now.
    You know of course that ___________ is the real power behind the
    throne and that _____________ is merely a puppet figurehead.
    Their next target will be ______________ _________ _______ _________
    _________, and you know it!
    They can all just kiss my ______. I'm moving on to __________.

    =================================================


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                                NET HUMOR
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                              The Easter Mass

    Years ago in Ireland there was a priest who was very anti-British.
    Every Sunday he would blast them from the pulpit. He became so
    notorious that the pope himself summoned the priest to Rome for an
    audience.

    "Father," said the pope, "I want that there should be peace between
    the British and the Irish. You're not helping matters at all. I want
    you to kiss my ring and swear by the Blessed Virgin that you'll
    never so much as mention the British in public again."

    "But your grace, I - I - " the priest stammered.

    "No buts," said the pope. "Swear it here and now or I'm going to
    excommunicate you!"

    "Aye, Holy Father," sighed the father. "All right. I swear it."

    The very next Sunday just happened to be Easter. And the father was
    back at his pulpit in Ireland giving his annual Easter sermon. He
    got to the part of the Easter story where Jesus said, "And one of
    you shall betray Me."

    The father continues: "Saint Andrew jumps up and says, 'Is it I
    Lord?' and the Lord says, 'Nay, Andy darlin, it's not you. Sit down
    now and dunna worry. Eat your supper.' Then Saint John the Divine
    gets up with tears in his eyes and cries, 'Is it I Lord?' And the
    Lord says, 'Nay, Johnny me boy, it's not you. Sit down now and dunna
    fret yourself. Eat your supper.'

    "Then that dirty dog Judas Iscariot slowww-ly rises to his feet. And
    he looks the Lord right in the eye and says, 'Blimey, Mate. Ya think
    it's me?"


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                             COMIX IN ASCII
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                                         ^^    ^^
              Cow with                *  ||----||
              ceiling                  \ |     ||
              mirror                    \-------/\
                                               (oo)
                                               (  )
                                                ><
                                               (  )
                                               (oo)
                                        /-------\/
                                       / |     ||
                                      *  ||----||
                                         ^^    ^^

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                    ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
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                           Editor Pro Tem Special

    Maybe you've wanted to publish your own Fidonews article, but
    weren't sure how to go about it.  Or perhaps you found the
    instructions in ARTSPEC.DOC, but they were daunting.

    Well, it's time to speak up!  During the month of June, I'm running
    an "Editor Pro Tem" special.  Concentrate on what you have to say
    and get it to me in some kind of readable ASCII, and I'll do the
    necessary formatting for publication.  You can send articles netmail
    to Douglas Myers at 1:379/720, or email to [email protected].


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                                 NOTICES
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                      Future History

      24 Jul 1999
         XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

      10 Sep 1999
         10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

      26 Oct 1999
         Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

      31 Dec 1999
         Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

       1 Jan 2000
         The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

       1 Jun 2000
         EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

      15 Sep 2000
         Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

      21 Sep 2000
         10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

       1 Jan 2001
         This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

      -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
            Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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     ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

      During the month of June, 1999, the Fidonews Editor is on
      vacation.  Editor Pro Tem during this period is Douglas Myers,
      1:270/720, [email protected].  Please address correspondence,
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      Editor: Henk Wolsink

      Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
                       Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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