F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 19 10 May 1999

F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 19 10 May 1999
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
Top-Down Organization - What is Fido's true structure? ... 2
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
Fidonet-TNG: Where do we go from here? ................... 3
North American Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr] ........... 4
NAB &Z1B Echo Diff ....................................... 5
Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr] ....................... 6
4. NOTICES .................................................. 8
5. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 9
Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 9
6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 14
7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 18
FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 1 10 May 1999

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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,

I've never been involded or for that matter, seen a twister. The
movie I've seen yes. Hence my sympathies to those who lost a love
one in last weeks twister(s) in Zone 1.

Another 2 weeks and I'll be spending a well earned rest in Zone 2.
During those two weeks, Douglas Myers will be caretaker of the snooze
and I thank him for assisting me in being able to get a break.

Please, if your article does not happen to appear in the snooze during
that time, please be patient as it will, I'm sure on my return.

Happy reading,

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FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 2 10 May 1999

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GUEST EDITORIAL
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Top-Down Organization
What is Fido's true structure?
Douglas Myers 1:270/720
[email protected]

The bad news is that the Zone 1 Coordinator election process
appeared to be stalled. The good news is that Andrea Santos'
probing questions have elicited sincere discussions in the Z1C echo
from at least two Regional Coordinators. The bad news is that there
is still no firm schedule nor details concerning the election
available. The good news is that the consensus is that the election
won't "fall through the cracks."

An sidebar to the conversation caught my attention, and seemed to me
to have more significance than the timing of the election. I was,
at first, appalled when Dallas Hinton - himself a likely candidate
for the Z1C slot - mentioned that the identity of the Z1C was of
little significance to the "average node." It was hard to fault
what he actually said... he was just pointing out that most Fido
nodes won't be adversely affected if it takes a little time to
select a new ZC... but my first reaction was that the statement
smacked of elitism.

Upon further reflection, though, his view of the "average node" is
totally consistent with the view of Fidonet as a "top-down"
structure. The "top-down" view assumes that most of the authority
is concentrated in the top positions. Contrast this to the
viewpoint of many of the individuals who feel that Fidonet should be
democratized - essentially a "bottom-up" structure. How did we come
to hold these two viewpoints of Fido?

Ironically, many in Fido hole both viewpoints simultaneously. I've
often wondered how the same people who expect coordinators to act as
mere nodelist clerks will also blame them for a lack of leadership.
We, as a net, seem to want democracy simultaneously with strong
central authority.

The next Zone Coordinator will face a truly daunting task - he'll
face twin demands to dispatch issues with the strong resolution
usually found only in tyrants, and yet be called upon to determine
and act upon the consensus of those vaguely-defined "average nodes."
The next Zone Coordinator is best advised to get to know these
"average nodes," for he'll find that he can only derive power from
the Regional Coordinators who select him. True authority must come
from the "average nodes," whether they're paying attention or not.

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FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 3 10 May 1999

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ARTICLES
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Fidonet-TNG: Where do we go from here?
by Larry Cody
Fidonet: 1:133/504
Email: [email protected]
WWW: bbs.asnbbs.com

In the section ECHO TALK of Fidonews 16-18 (3 May 1999), an unnamed
author made these comments in reference to the future of Fido:

"The people of Fidonet have been very clever about connecting through
the Internet... but most of our effort has been bent to connecting
to each other in support of the traditional dial-up BBS. Now we
need to direct our efforts to connecting to the _people_. Fido of
the (near) future needs to be just a mouse-click away."

The author of these words is absolutely correct... Fidonet has always
been about connecting to people, whether through the echoes a system
carried, the files the Sysop made available, or the general air of
the BBS.

As the modem-using community turns increasingly towards the Internet,
so Fidonet BBSes must also turn in that direction. Should we fail to
do so, continued decline and eventual extinction is the most probable
end. But there is an answer, available now, to at least part of the
problem. Many Fidonet BBSes are already on the Internet. Through the
use of software platforms which enable either Telnet or HTML
connections, Fidonet remains accessible to the masses. The message
areas can be HTML pages or text-only, but either way, they are there
for the newcomer to read. However, access is not sufficient to ensure
Fidonet's future. As any good marketer knows, to create a need for a
product or service, one must create a desire for such. In order to
create a "desire" for visiting a Fidonet BBS, we have to ensure that
the user who stumbles into that system encounters something that
brings them back.

One possible solution lies in our past...

Fidonet Sysops once had a tradition of helping others. How many of
us owe our very existence to another Sysop who had a patient ear
(and a handy telephone) to walk us through setting up this or that?
How many BBSes started because a Sysop had a (C)hat option and then
used it, perhaps to answer a few questions on how to start a BBS? We
must rediscover that tradition. A number of BBSes participate in
various Webrings, connecting Internet-accessible BBSes to each other.
Other boards already offer Telnet links between BBSes for Internet
use. Those boards provide an entry point for the Internet-bound.
Links to non-Internet BBSes can be carried as free advertisements
(time to dig out the old ANSI logoff screens). Perhaps others know
of an ISP or business who may provide resources to put a BBS on the
'net. Who knows? The IT manager at that local business may have
gotten his or her start as a kid on a local Fidonet BBS.
FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 4 10 May 1999

To reiterate the earlier point: Fidonet needs to connect to people.
To do this, we need exposure... and that means advertising and
marketing. The best advertising is often word-of-mouth. Those of
you on the Internet, get the word out that Fido still exists. Join or
create Webrings, advertise your fellow boards, meet the people in
your community who may be able to help. Patronize your fellow boards
and encourage the users you DO have to do the same. Above all, lend
a helping hand to those who are struggling... either to stay or to
join Fidonet.

This is where Fidonet excels, where we have room to carve out a
niche. Use technology to get them in the door, then keep them
coming back because of the Sysop, not the system. Put that (C)hat
command back on the menu and use it from time to time. Who knows?
You may even bring some of the fun back to this old hobby of ours.

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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
[email protected]

Summary of NAB echo changes during Mar & Apr.

Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.

diff backbone.na 07-Mar-99 backbone.na 02-May-99 [edited].

Added to the NAB list of echos
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> ALASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA
> ARIZONA GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA
> ARKANSAS_ GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS
> BBBS.ENGLISH The International BBBS Support Echo
> CALIFORNIA GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA
> COLORADO GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO
> CONNECTICUT GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT
> DDS_ECHO DDS FDN Administrative Echo
> DELAWARE GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE
> EBAY_CHAT A place to discuss EBAY buys and sells
> FIDO_DISTRIBUTION Echomail Distribution System Discussions
> FLORIDA GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA
> GEORGIA GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA
> HAWAII GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII
> IDAHO GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO
> ILLINOIS GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS
> INDIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA
> IOWA GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA
> KANSAS GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS
> KENTUCKY GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY
> KOSOVO Discussions about the events in Kosovo
> LOUISIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA
> MAINE GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE
> MARYLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND
> MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS
FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 5 10 May 1999

> MINNESOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA
> MISSISSIPPI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI
> MISSOURI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI
> MONTANA GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA
> NEBRASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA
> NEVADA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA
> NEW_HAMPSHIRE GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE
> NEW_JERSEY GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY
> NEW_MEXICO GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO
> NEW_YORK GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK
> NORTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA
> OHIO GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO
> OREGON GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON
> RHODE_ISLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND
> SOUTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA
> SOUTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA
> TENNESSEE GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE
> UTAH GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH
> VERMONT GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT
> VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA
> WASHINGTON GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON
> WEBTV WEBTV
> WEST_VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA
> WISCONSIN GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN
> WYOMING GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING
> ZCC_SUNSHINE Crosspost msgs from ZCC-closed-conference

Removed from the NAB list of echos
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< FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference
< FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference
< GOLDED.BETA GoldED Alpha, Beta, Gamma discussion.
< INET_NODELIST FidoNet Nodelisting of Internet Sites
< WIN99 Echo for the discussion of Windows 99 software

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o There are 795 echos in backbone.na [02-May-99] (up 46)

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NAB & Z1B Echo Diff
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
[email protected]

diff backbone.na (02-May-99) backbone.z1b (02-May-99) [edited]

Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B
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ALASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA
ARIZONA GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA
ARKANSAS_ GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS
CALIFORNIA GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA
COLORADO GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO
CONNECTICUT GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT
DELAWARE GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE
FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 6 10 May 1999

EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO
FLORIDA GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA
GEORGIA GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA
HAWAII GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII
IDAHO GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO
ILLINOIS GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS
INDIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA
IOWA GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA
KANSAS GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS
KENTUCKY GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY
LOUISIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA
MAINE GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE
MARYLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND
MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS
MINNESOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA
MISSISSIPPI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI
MISSOURI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI
MONTANA GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA
NEBRASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA
NEVADA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA
NEW_HAMPSHIRE GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE
NEW_JERSEY GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY
NEW_MEXICO GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO
NEW_YORK GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK
NORTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA
OHIO GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO
OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion
OREGON GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON
PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE
RHODE_ISLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND
SOUTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA
SOUTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA
TENNESSEE GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE
UTAH GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH
VERMONT GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT
VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA
WASHINGTON GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON
WEST_VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA
WISCONSIN GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN
WYOMING GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING

Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB
-----------------------------------
None

The NAB list, backbone.na (02-May-99) has 795 echos.
The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (02-May-99) has 748 echos.
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Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
[email protected]

FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 7 10 May 1999

Summary of Z1B echo changes during Mar & Apr.

Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.

diff backbone.z1b 07-Mar-99 backbone.z1b 02-May-99 [edited].

Added to the Z1B list of echos
------------------------------
> BBBS.ENGLISH The International BBBS Support Echo
> DDS_ECHO DDS FDN Administrative Echo
> EBAY_CHAT A place to discuss EBAY buys and sells!
> FIDO_DISTRIBUTION FidoNet Echomail Distribution System Discussions
> KOSOVO Discussions about the events in Kosovo
> WEBTV WEBTV
> WIN2000 Windows 2000 Echo
> ZCC_SUNSHINE Crosspost msgs from ZCC-closed-conference

Removed from the Z1B list of echos
----------------------------------
< FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference
< FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference
< GOLDED.BETA GoldED Alpha, Beta, Gamma discussion.

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o There are 748 echos in backbone.z1b [02-May-99] (up 5)

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FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 8 10 May 1999

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NOTICES
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Future History

12 May 1999
12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.

14 - 16 May 1999
V. BBachCon in Bleichenbach, Germany.
For further information see: www.bbachcon.de

24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

9 Jun 1999
Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.

10 Sep 1999
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 9 10 May 1999

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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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Latest Greatest Software Versions
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:228/158

Well, it has been quite a while. Been wondering if I should come
back. Guess I just did. <grin>

Everything is out of date. I've got a backlog, but while I catch
up on old mail, I also want to get new mail as well. So write me.

There's been some speculation about web page listings and e-mail
addresses for this list. I do plan to add them to the web version
of this list within the next couple of weeks. Please send them in.

Please note the new contact info:

Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
[email protected]
http://www.popovich.net/fido

Peter Popovich

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Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column

OS Platform :
Software package name :
Version :
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
Author / Support staff contact name :
Author / Support staff contact node :
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
Internet e-mail address :
Web page :

Please include a sentence describing what the package does.

Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158

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MS-DOS:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
ALLFIX 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
Announcer 1.12 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
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BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
FastEcho/16 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FEX
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD
NorthStar 3.31.29 B S A&B Darin 1:285/82 NSTAR
Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
Searchlight 4.5 B S Paul Casey 1:343/117 DEMO450.ZIP
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
Silver Xpress
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
Terminate 5.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
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Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO
TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS

OS/2:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ALLFIX/2 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST
FleetStreet 1.21 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
FP-OS/2 97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow 323/107 FPOS2
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP
Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF
PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO2
WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2

Windows (16-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW

Windows (32-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Argus 95/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 A9I
Argus NT/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ANI
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
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Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_W32
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP

Unix:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ifmail 2.12 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
ifmail-tx ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK

Amiga:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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CrashMail 1.31 T X Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHMAIL
CrashTick 1.2 O F Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHTICK
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
2:310/6 TRAPDOOR
TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS

Atari:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC
JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA

Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
be listed by the first match.

Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source

Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

FidoNet:

Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
Echomail [pending]
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti
List servers:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org

Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm

Net 264: http://www.net264.org/

Region 14:

Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/

Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/

Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19

Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/

Not sure where the following should be placed:

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html

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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org

ZEC2:
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/

Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)

Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb

Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)

Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)

Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)

Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr

Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

Region 42: http://www.fido.cz

Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl

Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

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Zone 4:

Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org

Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

============

Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

-----------oOo-------------

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
1:106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo.
1:107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr.
1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr.
1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr.
1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
2:335/535 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
2:254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
2:284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP | 33.6 | n/c
4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c
--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
[I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet.
Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed.
Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have
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available.]

Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, [email protected]
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.

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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

Editor: Henk Wolsink

Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg

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FidoNet 5:5/23
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more addresses:
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(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 12325
Port Elizabeth,
6006
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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
FidoNews and/or the Editor.

Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
Copyright (C) 1999 Henk Wolsink. All rights reserved. Duplication
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
the Editor.

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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
file-request, or from various sites in FidoNet and the Internet.
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSGnn.ZIP] for a
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
current year [9], i.e., FNWSJAN9.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 99.

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Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
1 - 16 for 1984 - 1999, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
size from 48K to 1.4M.

INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:

http://www.fidonews.org
** http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
** ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews

And in non-English formats via:

** http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)

** LINK HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED

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You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:

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with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist

and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the
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*

You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
by sending email to:

[email protected]

with a Subject line of: help

and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
www.fidonews.org.

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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

http://www.fidonews.org

and http://www.fidonet.dynip.com/public/fidonews/default.htm

and in the FIDONEWS echo.

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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:

ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/

Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.

=*=*=*=

The current week's FidoNews are now also available almost immediately
after publication on the FidoNews Editor homepage on the World Wide
Web at:

http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html

There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an
email link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.

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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
from 5:5/23 [5:7104/2] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
should have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.

"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
and are used with permission.

"Disagreement is actually necessary,
or we'd all have to get in fights
or something to amuse ourselves
and create the requisite chaos."
-Tom Jennings

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