F I D O N E W S         Volume 16, Number 10           08 March 1999
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                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
    2. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  2
       Year of the Elves  ........................................  2
    3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR  ....................................  4
    4. NOTICES  ..................................................  5
    5. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  .................................  6
       Latest Greatest Software Versions  ........................  6
    6. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 11
    7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 15
    FIDONEWS 16-10               Page 1                    8 Mar 1999


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                                EDITORIAL
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    Greetings,

    I've always in the old days, enjoyed the list of software which was
    posted in FidoNews, so that if needed, I knew exactly where to obtain
    it.  In fact, that was one of the first items I used to read.
    It's with great pleasure to see Peter Popovich doing the honors for
    us and I'm sure you will welcome his contribution.

    Thank you Peter, for the eefort in bringing us this list again.

    There was a complaint from one of our readers, that not each article
    submitted, had it's author's name listed.  My apology for that
    ommission, I should have checked better. ;-)

    Enjoy,

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    FIDONEWS 16-10               Page 2                    8 Mar 1999


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                             GUEST EDITORIAL
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    The Case for Open Elections

    Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, [email protected]

    There are plenty of good reasons to avoid an open, sysop-level
    election for the soon to be vacated post of Zone 1 Coordinator.
    Selection of a Z1C by a limited number of Regional Coordinators
    choosing from among their number is certainly a more well ordered
    process than open elections have proven to be.  In the past, open
    elections have been noisy processes, time consuming, and turn out
    has been disappointing.  Nor has the process guaranteed an adequate
    office holder.

    Most damning of all is that Fidonet Policy, while not actually
    prohibiting an open election, does clearly leave selection of a Zone
    Coordinator in the hands of the Regional Coordinators in the Zone.

    Despite the strikes against the concept, this should be the year
    that Regional Coordinators declare an open, sysop-level election for
    the office of Z1C, and ratify the results of that election.  Many
    factors indicate that this should be the year that we put aside
    strict observance of policy and go to the trouble of conducting open
    elections.

    This is not the same Fidonet which existed when Policy was written.
    The Fidonet of that time was in a period of explosive growth.  The
    daily influx of new, inexperienced sysops commanded a need for
    experienced leaders to keep the network stable.  Today's Fidonet is
    shrinking, victim of the general decline of BBSing as new computer
    users flock to the Internet.  The people in Fido today are the
    survivors of the hobby, the one's who stuck it out.  They're lean
    and experienced and unlikely to accept authority which they didn't
    choose themselves.

    Witness the changed perception of the Regional Coordinators over the
    years.  At one time, they were sufficiently respected that they were
    able to wrest control of Fidonet despite the objections of it's very
    popular founder.  In today's Fidonet, however, they are referred to
    as "Elflords" overseeing their kingdoms... not exactly a respectful
    analogy.

    Is this lack of confidence earned?  Probably not - many coordinators
    seem to do an outstanding job.  However, they are part of an
    increasingly unpopular structure - appointed, often without input
    from their constituents... and perceived to have no responsibility
    to this constituency of increasingly experienced sysops.

    A Zone Coordinator chosen from among their ranks with no input from
    sysops will simply have no mandate and suffer the same loss of
    confidence which afflicts the coordinator structure.

    FIDONEWS 16-10               Page 3                    8 Mar 1999


    It's a new year for Fidonet.  Can the Coordinator structure shed the
    ElfLord image?  Will it finally be the Year of the Elves?

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                          LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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    From: [email protected] (Joe Jared)
    To:   [email protected]
    Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:55:44 -0700

    At the time of this writing, I assumed the duties of the Usenet
    gateway for our net (1:103).  Currently under development is to
    establish one or more news servers to  provide a nntp gateway to
    those formerly members of fidonet.  I expect that we will have
    this feed up and running within the week.  Personally, I am sick
    to death of politicing with echomail, and most disturbed that the
    backbone zone hubs can't seem to work out their differences in
    private.  Among the recent developments I see however on a positive
    note is that the NAB has changed their echo addition policies to the
    near anarchy that it should be.  Hopefully this change will further
    discrourage the trend towards extinction and revitalize fidonet.


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    From: [email protected] ("Rob Echler")
    To:   <[email protected]>
    Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 03:41:49 -0600

    I was a member of Fidonet in its younger days when its echo areas are
    were full of stimulating conversation. You will long be remembered as
    some of the best years of my life, and some of the greatest flame fest
    I have ever been entertained by. Your mail packets drained my wallet,
    but you were worth every dime. Your systems are now few and your
    nodelist lays almost empty, resembeling that of the very first. Your
    hollow halls are no longer that of intellectual conversation, but one
    of echos. Echos of past votes for power and prestige in amoung your
    once strong zones and networks. Those that once terrorized the
    innocent SysOps with their unforgiving power are now simply a has been
    on the Internet. It is not your fault that you are gone, it is the
    fault of those who abused you.
    Your days were numbered from the very first conversations passed back
    in St Louis. We thought you would live forever and become a true giant
    among men, and you did exactly that. You may be gone but you will
    never be forgotten. Now I will turn out the light and let you get your
    long deserved rest. Thank you for being there when there was nothing
    else.
    Goodbye old friend *click*


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                                 NOTICES
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                      Future History

      12 May 1999
         12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
         10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.

      24 Jul 1999
         XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

       9 Jun 1999
         Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.

      10 Sep 1999
         10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

      26 Oct 1999
         Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

      31 Dec 1999
         Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

       1 Jan 2000
         The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

       1 Jun 2000
         EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

      15 Sep 2000
         Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

      21 Sep 2000
         10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

       1 Jan 2001
         This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

      -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
            Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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    FIDONEWS 16-10               Page 6                    8 Mar 1999


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                        FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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    Latest Greatest Software Versions
    by Peter E. Popovich, 1:228/158

    Well, it has been quite a while. Been wondering if I should come
    back. Guess I just did. <grin>

    Everything is out of date. I've got a backlog, but while I catch
    up on old mail, I also want to get new mail as well. So write me.

    There's been some speculation about web page listings and e-mail
    addresses for this list. I do plan to add them to the web version
    of this list within the next couple of weeks. Please send them in.

    Please note the new contact info:

            Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
            [email protected]
            http://www.popovich.net/fido

    Peter Popovich

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    Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column

    OS Platform                             :
    Software package name                   :
    Version                                 :
    Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
    Freeware / Shareware / Commercial?      :
    Author / Support staff contact name     :
    Author / Support staff contact node     :
    Magic name (at the above-listed node)   :
    Internet e-mail address                 :
    Web page                                :

    Please include a sentence describing what the package does.

    Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158

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    MS-DOS:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Act-Up         4.6      G D Chris Gunn        1:15/55     ACT-UP
    ALLFIX         5.00     T S Harald Harms      2:281/415   ALLFIX
    Announcer      1.12     O S Peter Karlsson    2:206/221   ANNOUNCE
    BGFAX          1.60     O S B.J. Guillot      1:106/400   BGFAX
    Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOS_260.ZIP
    FIDONEWS 16-10               Page 7                    8 Mar 1999


    BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_DOS
    CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
    CheckPnt       1.0a     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     CHECKPNT
    FastEcho       1.46.1   T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FASTECHO
    FastEcho/16    1.46.1   T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FEX
    FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLSTD
    FidoBBS (tm)   12u      B S Ray Brown         1:1/117     FILES
    FrontDoor      2.12     M S JoHo              2:201/330   FD
    FrontDoor      2.20c    M C JoHo              2:201/330   FDINFO
    GEcho          1.00     T S Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GEcho/Plus     1.11     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GEcho/Pro      1.20     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GIGO           07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler      1:1/141     INFO
    GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GED
    GoldED/386     2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEX
    GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
    GoldNODE       2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEN
    Imail          1.75     T S Michael McCabe    1:1/121     IMAIL
    ImCrypt        1.04     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     IMCRYPT
    InfoMail/86    1.21     O F Damian Walker     2:2502/666  INFOMAIL
    InfoMail/386   1.21     O F Damian Walker     2:2502/666  INFO386
    InterEcho      1.19     T C Peter Stewart     1:369/35    IEDEMO
    InterMail      2.29k    M C Peter Stewart     1:369/35    IMDEMO
    InterPCB       1.52     O S Peter Stewart     1:369/35    INTERPCB
    IPNet          1.11     O S Michele Stewart   1:369/21    IPNET
    JD's CBV       1.4      O S John Dailey       1:363/277   CBV
    Jelly-Bean     1.01     T S Rowan Crowe       3:635/727   JELLY
    Jelly-Bean/386 1.01     T S Rowan Crowe       3:635/727   JELLY386
    JMail-Hudson   2.81     T S Jason Steck       1:285/424   JMAIL-H
    JMail-Goldbase 2.81     T S Jason Steck       1:285/424   JMAIL-G
    MakePl         1.9      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     MAKEPL
    Marena         1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     MARENA
    Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAX
    Max User Ed.   0.18     O F Larry Cooke       1:300/53    MUE
    McMail         1.0      M S Michael McCabe    1:1/148     MCMAIL
    MDNDP          1.18     N S Bill Doyle        1:388/7     MDNDP
    Msged          4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41D.ZIP
    Msged/386      4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41X.ZIP
    NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEFD
    NorthStar      3.31.29  B S A&B Darin         1:285/82    NSTAR
    Opus CBCS      1.79     B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14    OPUS
    O/T-Track      2.66     O S Peter Hampf       2:241/1090  OT
    PcMerge        2.8      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     PCMERGE
    PlatinumXpress 1.3      M C Gary Petersen     1:290/111   PX13TD.ZIP
    QuickBBS       2.81     B S Ben Schollnick    1:2613/477  QUICKBBS
    RAR            2.01     C S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    RAR
    RemoteAccess   2.50     B S Mark Lewis        1:3634/12   RA
    Searchlight    4.5      B S Paul Casey        1:343/117   DEMO450.ZIP
    Searchlight    5.02     B C Paul Casey        1:343/117   SLBBS50.TXT
    Silver Xpress
      Door         5.4      O S Gary Petersen     1:290/111   FILES
      Reader       4.4      O S Gary Petersen     1:290/111   SXR44.ZIP
    Spitfire       3.51     B S Mike Weaver       1:3670/3    SPITFIRE
    Squish         1.11     T P Tech              1:249/106   SQUISH
    StealTag UK    1.c...   O F Fred Schenk       2:284/412   STEAL_UK
    StealTag NL    1.c...   O F Fred Schenk       2:284/412   STEAL_NL
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    T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAIL
    Telegard       3.02     B F Tim Strike        1:259/423   TELEGARD
    Terminate      5.00     O S Bo Bendtsen       2:254/261   TERMINATE
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
    Tornado        1.50g    B F Konst Klyagin     2:461/22    TORNADO
    TosScan        1.01     T C JoHo              2:201/330   TSINFO
    TransNet       1.00     G S Marc S. Ressl     4:904/72    TN100ALL.ZIP
    TriBBS         11.0     B S Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRIBBS
    TriDog         11.0     T F Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRIDOG
    TriToss        11.0     T S Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRITOSS
    WaterGate      0.93     G S Robert Szarka     1:320/42    WTRGATE
    WWIV           4.24a    B S Craig Dooley      1:376/126   WWIV
    WWIVTOSS       1.36     T S Craig Dooley      1:376/126   WWIVTOSS
    xMail          2.00     T S Thorsten Franke   2:2448/53   XMAIL
    XRobot         3.01     O S JoHo              2:201/330   XRDOS

    OS/2:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ALLFIX/2       5.00     T S Harald Harms      2:281/415   AFIXOS2
    BGFAX          1.60     O S B.J. Guillot      1:106/400   BGFAX
    Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BOS2_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_OS2
    CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
    FastEcho       1.46.1   T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FE2
    FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLST
    FleetStreet    1.21     O S Michael Hohner    2:2490/2520 FLEET
    FP-OS/2        97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow        323/107     FPOS2
    GEcho/Pro      1.20     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GIGO           07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler      1:1/141     INFO
    GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEO
    GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
    GoldNODE       2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEN
    ImCrypt        1.04     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     IMCRYPT
    Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAXP
    Max User Ed.   0.18     O F Larry Cooke       1:300/53    MUEP
    Msged/2        4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41O.ZIP
    NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEF
    PcMerge        2.3      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     PCMERGE
    RAR            2.01     C S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    RAR2
    Squish         1.11     T P Tech              1:249/106   SQUISHP
    T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAIL2
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
    Tornado        1.50g    B F Konst Klyagin     2:461/22    TORNADO2
    WaterGate      0.93     G S Robert Szarka     1:320/42    WTRGATE
    XRobot         3.01     O S JoHo              2:201/330   XROS2

    Windows (16-bit apps):
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
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    BeeMail        1.0      M C Andrius Cepaitis  2:470/1     BEEMAIL
    FrontDoor APX  1.12     P S Mats Wallin       2:201/329   FDAPXW

    Windows (32-bit apps):
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
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    Argus 95/IP    2.704    M S Max Masyutin      2:469/77    A9I
    Argus NT/IP    2.704    M S Max Masyutin      2:469/77    ANI
    BeeMail        1.0      M C Andrius Cepaitis  2:470/1     BEEMAIL
    Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BW32_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_W32
    CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
    FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLSTW
    GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEO
    GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
    Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAXN
    Msged/NT       4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41W.ZIP
    NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEFW
    PlatinumXpress 2.00     M C Gary Petersen     1:290/111   PXW-INFO
    Searchlight    5.02     B C Paul Casey        1:343/117   SLBBS50.TXT
    T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAILNT
    WinFOSSIL/95   1.12 r4  F S Bryan Woodruff    1:343/294   WNFOSSIL.ZIP
    WinFOSSIL/NT   1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff    1:343/294   NTFOSSIL.ZIP

    Unix:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ifmail         2.12     M G Eugene Crosser    2:293/2219  IFMAIL
    ifmail-tx      ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga   2:293/2219  IFMAILTX
    ifmail-tx.rpm  ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga   2:293/2219  IFMAILTX.RPM
    Msged          4.00     O G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   MSGED
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK

    Amiga:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrashMail      1.31     T X Rene Laederach    2:301/133   CRASHMAIL
    CrashTick      1.2      O F Rene Laederach    2:301/133   CRASHTICK
    DLG Pro BBOS   1.15     B C Holly Sullivan    1:202/720   DLGDEMO
    GMS            1.1.85   M S Mirko Viviani     2:331/213   GMS
    Msged          4.00     O G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   MSGED
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
    TrapDoor       1.86.b2  M S Maximilian Hantsch
                                                  2:310/6     TRAPDOOR
    TrapToss       1.50     T S Rene Hexel        2:310/6     TRAPTOSS

    Atari:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ApplyList      1.00     N F Daniel Roesen     2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
    BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2  M F Bill Scull        1:363/112   BINKLEY
    BTNC           2.00     N G Daniel Roesen     2:2432/1101 BTNC
    JetMail        0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker     2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
    Semper         0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten      2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA

    Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
              C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
              be listed by the first match.

    Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
    FIDONEWS 16-10               Page 10                   8 Mar 1999


          X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source

    Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158

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    =================================================================
                           FIDONET BY INTERNET
    =================================================================

    This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
    FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

    FidoNet:

    Homepage    http://www.fidonet.org
    FidoNews    http://www.fidonews.org             [HTML]
                http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html  [ASCII]
    WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
    FTSC page   http://www.ftsc.org/
    Echomail    [pending]
    General     http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
                http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti
    List servers:
                http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

    ============

    Zone 1:       http://www.z1.fidonet.org

      Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

      Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

      Region 13:

        Net 264:  http://www.net264.org/r13.htm

      Region 14:

        Net 282:  http://www.rxn.com/~net282/

      Region 17:  http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/

      Region 18:  http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

      Region 19:  http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19

    Zone 1 Elist  http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/

    Not sure where the following should be placed:

                  http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html

    ============

    Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org

    ZEC2:
    Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/

      Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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      Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

      Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
        Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)

      Region 25:  http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

       Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
          REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb

      Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

      Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)

      Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (German)

      Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)

      Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
          REC34:  http://pobox.com/~chr

      Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

      Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

      Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

      Region 42:  http://www.fido.cz

      Region 48:  http://www.fidonet.org.pl

      Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
       Net 5010:  http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/  (Russian)
       Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)
       Net 5030:  http://kenga.ru/fido/  (Russian & English)
       Net 5073:  http://people.weekend.ru/soa/  (Russian)

    ============

    Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

    ============

    Zone 4:

      Region 90:  http://visitweb.com/fidonet
        Net 903:  http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
        Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

    ============

    Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

    ============

    Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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      Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

    ============

    Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
    and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites.  If
    no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
    that Region is used in its place.  Generally, Regional pages
    should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

    TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
    to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

                     -----------oOo-------------

                      Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

    Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
    -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
    1:12/12    | Ken Wilson        | FTP            | T1    | $24mo.
    1:13/25    | Jim Balcom        | FTP            | 56k   | $20mo.
    1:106/1    | Matt Bedynek      | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 64k   | $5/$15mo.
    1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP,VMoT       | 64k   | $5/mo.
    1:107/451  | Andy Knifel       | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6  | n/c
    1:140/12   | Bob Seaborn       | FTP            | T1    | $5/$20
    1:270/101  | George Peace      | FTP            | T1    | $30mo.
    1:271/140  | Tom Barstow       | UUE            | T1    | n/c
    1:275/1    | Joshua Ecklund    | UUE            | 28.8  | $10/yr.
    1:280/169  | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
    1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca       | FTP,UUE        | T1    | unkn
    1:2424/10  | Alec Grynspan     | FTP,UUE        | T1    | n/c
    1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo.
    1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco  | VMoT           | 33.6  | $15yr.
    1:345/0    | Todd Cochrane     | FTP            | T1    | n/c
    1:346/250  | Aran Spence       | FTP,UUE        | T1    | $10mo.
    1:396/45   | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr.
    1:3651/9   | Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
    1:396/1    | John Souvestre    | FTP,VMoT       | T1    | $15mo.
    2:335/535  | Mario Mure        | VMoT,UUE       | 64k   | n/c
    2:254/175  | Alex Kemp         | UUE            | 56k   | n/c
    2:284/800  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
    2:335/610  | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
    2:469/84   | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
    2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
    2:2474/275 | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
    3:633/260  | Malcolm Miles     | FTP            | 33.6  | n/c
    4:905/100  | Fabian Gervan     | VMoT, UUE      | ???   | n/c
    5:7104/2   | Henk Wolsink      | FTP            | 28.8  | n/c
    --
    * FTP  = Internet File Transfer Protocol
    * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
    * UUE  = uuencode<->email type transfers
    [I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet.
    Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed.
    Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have
    available.]
    FIDONEWS 16-10               Page 14                   8 Mar 1999


    Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, [email protected]
    Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.

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    =================================================================
                          FIDONEWS INFORMATION
    =================================================================


     ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

      Editor: Henk Wolsink

      Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
                       Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
                       Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg

      "FidoNews Editor"
          FidoNet  5:5/23
          BBS  +27-41-581-5913,  2400/9600/V34

       more addresses:
          Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2,    [email protected]

       (Postal Service mailing address)
          FidoNews Editor
          P.O. Box 12325
          Port Elizabeth,
          6006
          South Africa

        ------------------------------------------------------

    FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
    INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system.  It is a compilation
    of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
    authorized agents.  The contribution of articles to this compilation
    does not diminish the rights of the authors.  OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
    these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
    FidoNews and/or the Editor.

    Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
    Copyright (C) 1999 Henk Wolsink.  All rights reserved.  Duplication
    and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only.  For
    use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
    the Editor.

                            =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=

    OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
    form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
    file-request, or from various sites in FidoNet and the Internet.
    PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
    address.  File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue.  File-request
    FNEWS for the current month in one archive.  Or file-request specific
    back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSGnn.ZIP] for a
    particular Issue.  Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
    where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
    current year [9], i.e., FNWSJAN9.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 99.

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    Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
    1 - 16 for 1984 - 1999, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
    size from 48K to 1.4M.


       INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:

                       http://www.fidonews.org
               **      http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
               **      ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
                       ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
                       ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews

       And in non-English formats via:

               **      http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
                       http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)

      **  LINK HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED

                                  *=*=*

    You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:

                       [email protected]

    with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist

    and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the
    email distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist
    with no message to the same address above.

                                     *

    You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
    by sending email to:

                       [email protected]

    with a Subject line of: help

    and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
    instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
    respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
    www.fidonews.org.

                                   *=*=*

    You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

                       http://www.fidonews.org

    and    http://www.fidonet.dynip.com/public/fidonews/default.htm

    and in the FIDONEWS echo.

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    STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
    Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:

                       ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/

    Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
    for that year's issues.  The total set is currently about 13 Megs.

                                 =*=*=*=

    The current week's FidoNews are now also available almost immediately
    after publication on the FidoNews Editor homepage on the World Wide
    Web at:

                       http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html

    There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
    to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives.  There is also an
    email link for sending in an article as message text.  Drop on over.

                           =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=

    SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
    FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
    ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
    from 5:5/23 [5:7104/2] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC".  ALL Zone Coordinators
    should have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.

    "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
    trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
    and are used with permission.

                 "Disagreement is actually necessary,
                  or we'd all have to get in fights
                  or something to amuse ourselves
                  and create the requisite chaos."
                                    -Tom Jennings

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