F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 01 4 January 1999

F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 01 4 January 1999
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
FTSC Administrator Election Results ...................... 2
North American Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec] ........... 3
FTSC Nominations ......................................... 4
FTSC Standing Members Election Results ................... 5
Searching but not finding ................................ 6
3. NOTICES .................................................. 11
4. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 12
5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
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EDITORIAL
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Greeting,

A very happy 1999 to you all! One year to go and 2000 is upon us.

And then? Most of the PC's break down, because either it's not
Y2K compliant or the software used will see to it's downfall.
What a thought. Yes, I agree and it's not a nice thought at all.
Or is it? :-)

A question was raised about the naming of FidoNews and I suggested
we go as follows: FNEWnnnn.ZIP, this issue being FNEW1601.ZIP

However, since I have not discussed this with those who rely on
receiving FidoNews and their system automattically processing it,
such as fidonews.org, it might not be in the interest to change it
as suggested above, but rather carry on with the naming as used.

Happy reading,

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ARTICLES
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FTSC Administrator - Election Results
by Mario Mure', 2:335/533 [email protected]

ELECTION RESULTS
FTSC ADMINISTRATOR

01 January 1999

VOTER SUMMARY
=============

Eligible Voters: 17
Votes Cast: 8

Percentage voted: 47%

APPOINTMENT RULES
=================

From "Voting Procedure", published in the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail
conference and in FIDO1547.NWS and FIDO1550.NWS:

"All FTSC Standing Members as per current version of FTA-1003 who
have not resigned from their position are eligible to vote.

"Each vote shall be for only one of the 2 candidates. An abstention
is permitted."

"The elected candidate will be appointed for a period that ends
2002-12-31."

CANDIDATE RESULTS - 2 Candidates, 1 Appointed
=============================================

Candidate list is in order of number of votes received:

# NAME NODE # VOTES APPOINTED TO

1 Colin Turner 2:443/13 8 31 Dec 2002
2 Radu Malica 2:530/139 - ---

BALLOT LIST
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Ballot list is in alphabetical order of password received:
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| VOTER | |
| PASSWORD | CANDIDATE VOTED |
+-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| boromir | Colin Turner |
| Freejack | Colin Turner |
| Goran_Eriksson | Colin Turner |
| (1) | Colin Turner |
| Limerick | Colin Turner |
| LORIEN | Colin Turner |
| (2) | Colin Turner |
| PICKTUR | Colin Turner |
+-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+

(1) KeepOnRockingInTheFreeWorld
(2) Peter_Karlsson_2:206/221.0

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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Nov-Dec]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
[email protected]

Summary of backbone echo changes during Nov & Dec.

Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.

As noted last month, the North American Backbone changed the format
of its areafix compatible lists. Backbone.na now lists all NAB
backbone echos. The backbone.no list no longer exists. Echos that
are in jeopardy because of low traffic or an expired Elist entry are
listed in Section 3 of the weekly backstat.na.

When Thom LaCosta took over the Elist function last summer, he merged
all unrefreshed entries from Adrian's Elist, using the merge date as
the refresh date in his database. The result was to give unaware
moderators an extra five months 'til expiry. Effectively no echos
have been placed in jeopardy for lack of an Elist entry since
June '98. These echos are expiring now, and I expect a large number
of unrefreshed echos to be dropped from the January EList and added
to Section 3 of backstat.na. I _think_ those echos will be removed
from backbone.na after three months if they remain un-Elisted, but
only time will tell for sure.

The North American Backbone also made it harder to get into, and
easier to get out of, jeopardy for Low traffic. I am told that Low
traffic echos will not be removed from backbone.na, so Low traffic
jeopardy doesn't mean much.

The net result is that the number of backbone echos is growing,
although the number of backbone messages continues to shrink.

diff backbone.na 06-Sep-98 backbone.na 03.Jan-99 [edited].

Added to the backbone
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> ALLFIX_FILE Allfix File Announce Conference
> ANIME Japanese Animation Echo
> BBS_PROMOTION The BBS Promotion "Team" Join Us!
> BEEMAIL GUI mailer for Win3.1 and Win
> BINKD The ubiquitous BinkD TCP/IP FTN mailer
> BURL Serialized Electronic Novels
> CWL Contact World-Wide Link
> DAGGER Discussions of Daggerfall and other RPG topics
> FLAME National FLAME echo
> MEDIEVAL Medieval studies, re-creation, arts, etc.
> MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum
> NORTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH CAROLINA
> SCI-FI_TV SCIENCE FICTION TELEVISION SHOWS echo!
> TRANSCAN Trans Canada Drivel
> WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis

Note: ANIME and FLAME are returning echos.

Removed from the backbone or quasi-backbone
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< AAOS American Atheist Online Services Echo
< EFC Earth: Final Conflict series discussions
< WILDRNSS Wilderness Travel and Camping
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o There are 732 echos in backbone.na [03-Jan-98] (up 12)

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FTSC Nominations
by Goran Eriksson, 2:201/505, [email protected]

When working with the preparations for the FTSC elections just
concluded, it struck me how foreign the nomination process prescribed
by FTA-1001 is to me.

In my neck of the woods, the normal thing would be for candidates in
FTSC elections to nominate themselves and present themselves and their
merits. The electorate would be trusted to make a sound choice between
the candidates based on that information and on other information
available to each member of the electorate.

Certainly, formal nomination procedures like those prescribed by
FTA-1001 are sometimes used also around here.

In other cases, the nomination procedure may formally be open, but you
don't stand any real chance if you're not recommended by the appointed
nomination committee.

In an organization like the FTSC as well as the FidoNet as a whole,
the norm would however be that anyone may nominate anyone. Even
her-/himself. Seconded nominations may occur but are not required.

I therefore suggest that FTA-1001 is changed accordingly.
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You're invited to take part in the discussion about this suggestion in
the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail conference. That's where the FTSC has to seek
consensus for changes like these.

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FTSC Standing Members - Election Results
by Mario Mure', 2:335/533 [email protected]

ELECTION RESULTS
FTSC STANDING MEMBERS

01 January 1999

VOTER SUMMARY
=============

Eligible Voters: 110 (71 RCs and 39 RECs)
Votes Cast: 26 (16 RCs and 10 RECs)

Percentage voted: 23% (22% RCs and 25% RECs)

APPOINTMENT RULES
=================

From "Voting Procedure", published in the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail
conference and in FIDO1547.NWS and FIDO1550.NWS:

"Only those candidates obtaining support from more than 50 % of
the total number of RC's and REC's casting valid votes will be
considered successfull. Successfull candidates will be appointed
according to the total number of supportive votes they have
received. The one with the highest number of supportive votes will
be appointed first etc."

"Elected candidates will be appointed for a period that ends
2000-09-30."

CANDIDATE RESULTS - 4 Candidates, 4 Appointed
=============================================

Candidate list is in order of number of YES votes received:

# NAME NODE # YES NO APPOINTED TO

1 Lothar Behet 2:2446/301 23 3 30 Sep 2000
2 Sean Rima 2:252/300 22 2 30 Sep 2000
3 Todd Cochrane 1:345/2 18 3 30 Sep 2000
4 David Hallford 1:208/103 18 3 30 Sep 2000

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BALLOT LIST
===========

Ballot list is in alphabetical order of password received:
+-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| | CANDIDATE NAMES |
| VOTER +-----------------------------------------------+
| | Lothar | Todd | David | Sean |
| PASSWORD | Behet | Cochrane | Hallford | Rima |
+-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| caladan | YES YES YES YES |
| Chopin | YES YES |
| CIAO | YES YES YES |
| EREBUS | YES YES YES YES |
| Eucharist | YES |
| FTscSM | YES YES YES YES |
| GUTEN_TAG | YES YES YES YES |
| HOTDOG | YES YES YES YES |
| in_between | YES YES YES YES |
| kachkeis | YES YES |
| kalamaja | YES YES YES YES |
| MAGNIFICAT | YES YES YES YES |
| MNBVWQ | YES NO NO YES |
| Multisync | NO NO YES YES |
| MUSFTSC | YES YES YES |
| phugueadugue | YES YES NO YES |
| RCVOTE | NO YES YES NO |
| REC23 | YES YES YES YES |
| (1) | YES YES YES YES |
| spudnut | YES YES YES YES |
| Tony | YES YES YES YES |
| Voyager | NO YES NO YES |
| vrx12 | YES |
| W6TFE | YES YES YES YES |
| X007 | YES YES YES YES |
| xxxxx | YES NO YES NO |
+-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+

(1) Santo oficio de la memoria

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Searching but not finding

It's not a game to many of us

I am writing this article in hopes it will generate some
thought and be distributed to folks who can make a difference in the
future of the net and search technologies. If you are such a person,
sit back and relax, I'd like to converse with you about this for a few
moments in a totally nonthreatening way. you might even be glad I
did.

LEt's take your typical day, and mine. WE've gotta get the
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kids off to school, during our work day we've got to research for
upcoming projects and network with coworkers to do our daily tasks.
Yes, we've also got to do lots of research, whether it's on which
model of furnace to get for the house or is this a safe toy for
Junior. The internet was gonna make this easier for us, right?

At this point you're uttering the great words of modern search
technology, such as yahoo, excite and so on. WEll, all that's fine
but we're missing the boat.

During one of those average days you want to order a piece of
equipment you need. YOu want to make that call when you're not on
your boss's dime which limits your available time to do this. So,
you're going to do some research. Ah yes, the supplier has a web
site, and somewhere on that web site is a price list for products
they sell, and another of used merchandise they have in stock.
WEll, no big deal, right? We're gonna go there and grab those two
lists which are common garden variety zip files, download 'em,
unzip 'em and either print 'em out or read them.

Not so fast! well, we get there, but we can't quite remember
under which link we found it before. LEt's wander around for
awhile. Hmmm, here's a neat one, a midi file downloads and plays
while a dancing bear tells you about something you really don't
want. THe text scrolls across the screen so fast you couldn't read
it if you tried, but let's back up, our link didn't seem to be
there. Let's try another. Still not there. Where's that darned
file? A coworker reminds you that you're going to be late for your
lunch appointment with the prospective client if you don't get a
move on, so you log off and grab your coat. AH well, maybe later
this afternoon. Oops, can't get outside on the net now, can't
connect, whatevver. NO luck.

We had it but we lost it! Remember when the internet was a
collection of machines in the halls of academia, technology
companies and the military? My first contacts with the internet
were in the later years of this period, through something called
fidonet. It was a gateway connection, no binary files could be
transferred, but a guy could get a lot of work done.

Under the strategies employed in those halcyon days of the
net, I might get the price lists in the above example via ftp.
REmember Ftp? Simple to use, allowed anonymous log-ins, didn't
care if your browser doesn't have the latest plug-ins. IT worked
for everybody, worked well too. I might ftp the file, or I might
use a doccument or database search tool such as wais to narrow down
my search to items I knew I wanted. I can have a price quote of
those items via email using something akin to wais. I send out my
email, meanwhile go have my lunch with my coworker and the
prospect, come back and get other work done. When checking my
email later my request has made it through the queue, I find. The
results of my search are now sitting in my email in-box for my
perusal. No muss, no fuss, no strain, but the gain I sought when
I was playing with my browser like I was channel surfing between
football games. I don't want to channel surf I want to get what
I want and leave. If I'm in the mood for browsing, the web or my
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public library both work fine, but if I really want to find it, my
public library has the edge. It can accomodate me there too with the
Dewey Decimal system and knowledgeable librarians.

Yes, I lament the loss of some of the old standard
internet search tools, Archie and wais to
name but two. Consider the FIdonet gateway I spoke of earlier.
SEarch tools such as those I mention could be used from gateway
connections to the net such as Fidonet. Not so with the newer
breed of search engine and information retrieval which is the www.
Here's another example of the search from hell. This one was
saved, though, by a knowledgeable librarian who figured out
four11.com just wasn't getting us where we wanted to go. Yes, the
web has opened up the internet to the masses, and there
are many web search tools to choose from which offer the same
functionality. Or do they?

Sometimes using modern search strategies you just can't get
there from here. A few months ago, I wanted to look up an alleged
bail bondsman from the Kansas City Missouri area. He had contacted
me looking for one of my daughters as she'd helped out a boyfriend
once. I had a phone number and wanted to cross reference it with
listed bail bonding agencies in the area, so off to my local
library I went hoping to browse their cdrom telephone directory.
AS I'm a blind person, I scheduled time with my reader to accomplish
this. Much to my surprise, the Library's telephone directories
cd had disappeared in favor of an internet workstation.
(Great! another one for patrons to use.) But now, on with our
search.

The librarian punches up four11.com for my reader. WE try to find
a way to just browse listings for the area, but it wants to know if
we want to buy a computer, we want to find people or whatever. WE
enter "Bail Bond" as a string but it burps on that. SO much for
four11.com or similar strategies. WHat a joke!
After wasting twenty minutes we're still not finished and we have
other things to do with our afternoon.

An emailable wais server, on the other hand would have given us
just what we need. With a hardcopy telephone directory or Boolean
logic and the old text search engines we would have been able to
retrieve our information and be on our way. one can narrow one's
search terms and get the
information sought. In the phone directory search example, the
librarian finally figured out we couldn't get there from here and
offered us a hardcopy Kansas City area phone directory. Within its
pages was what we sought, and we verified the legitimacy of the
individual and moved on It took us exactly three minutes from the
time the physical phone directory was placed at our disposal. .

SO now I'm to the place where I'm going to ask you to do something.
If you're an average net citizen like me, demand that search
engine providers provide an offline search capability.
which usually would mean an emailable interface. Offline
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searching saves you time. It also saves other
net citizens trouble. Sure, your request is queued up behind those
who got there before you, but you're using less resources to
accomplish the job than you would online browsing complex web
pages. You don't get the seeming instant gratification you get
from a web search, but how many times did you really need the
information you sought right now? While you were clicking away to
get your search started, wouldn't you rather have sent your request
out over the net and gone to have a cup of coffee or a snack?
Maybe you would have had time to help Junior with that math
problem.

If you're a system administrator or operator in a network such
as Fidonet, demand such services be placed at your disposal by the
companies with whom you do business as an alternative to all the
glitz.
. Your users can benefit from
them as can you yourself. Value added is a big buzzword today, and
for the bbs operator hobbyist, it isn't gratifying without callers.
Callers will call when they feel they derive a benefit, and these
tools are definitely a benefit when they're understood. A little
education makes them quite understandable. Try it, your users will
like it! Just tell 'em a little bit about how to use it. They'll
do the rest.
I know, I was such a bbs operator for awhile. The internet
hadn't yet come to town, and users were using the mail gateway and a
few search tools I made them aware of.
They were quite happy to find they could do this with their
older hardware and software, especially since full net access
had yet to come to my community.

If you're someone in a position to choose what software options
will be available for users of search technologies, consider these
simple options from the earlier days of the net. They use less
resources but are just as useful. For your
users who are intimidated, explain to them how these systems work.
YOu'll find converts aplenty when they realize how much faster it
really is for them.
Platform dependency isn't an issue with these search engine
strategies either. The old apple II, the commodore models,
anything that can use email and a terminal program can access them
if it has a net connection somehow. SOme still use
email services through gateways from bbs networks and the like.
FOr those folks and the developing nations' citizens such
strategies give them full access to the resources that make the
internet what it is.

FInally, thanks for taking the time to read this. YOu are free to
distribute it to any interested party or appropriate usenet forum
or listserv.

REgards,

Richard WEbb

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P.O. Box 614

West Burlington, ia. 52655

Internet [email protected]

Messages voice phone only: (319) 758-0427

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NOTICES
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Future History

16 Feb 1999
13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.

12 May 1999
12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.

24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

9 Jun 1999
Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.

10 Sep 1999
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

FidoNet:

Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
Echomail [pending]
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti
List servers:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org

Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

Region 13:

Net 264: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm

Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/

Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://www.compconn.net/r19

Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/

Not sure where the following should be placed:

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html

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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org

ZEC2:
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/

Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)

Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb

Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)

Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)

Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)

Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr

Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

Region 42: http://www.fido.cz

Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl

Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)

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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

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Zone 4:

Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org

Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

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Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

-----------oOo-------------

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
1:106/1 | Matt Bedynek | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 64k | $5/$15mo.
1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP,VMoT | 64k | $5/mo.
1:107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 64k | $10/$20mo.
1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr.
1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr.
1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr.
1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
2:254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
2:284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP | 33.6 | n/c
4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c
5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
[I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet.
Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed.
Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have
available.]

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Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, [email protected]
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.

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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

Editor: Henk Wolsink

Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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