F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 34 24 August 1998

F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 34 24 August 1998
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
Z1C - The Zone 1 Circus from a grunt sysop's view ........ 2
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
Eldridge Cleaver - Coda .................................. 10
4. COLUMNS .................................................. 11
The Narcosis of ICs ...................................... 11
5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 13
Technology breakthrough! Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge .. 13
6. NOTICES .................................................. 15
7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 17
8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 20
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,

Since I have had to edit (formatting) a few of the articles received
this week, I have included the ARTSPEC.DOC for the benefit of all.
Please read it. ;-)

Anyway, there is enough this week to keep you happy with the material
to read.

Happy reading.

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GUEST EDITORIAL
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Z1C - The Zone 1 Circus
Commentary on zone leadership by one of the grunt sysops
Douglas C. Myers, 1:270/720, [email protected]

Though I've been on Fidonet since the eighties, it's only been
recently that I've joined the Z1C conference. Z1C is billed in
BACKBONE.NA as the Zone 1 Coordinator contact echo. My most
immediate impression is that I've never seen a post by Bob Satti,
the current and long-time Zone 1 Coordinator.

Despite the absence of Bob, the echo Z1C is very active, teeming
with what seems to be hundreds of messages a day with conversations
which range from mere diatribes to deep and meaningful discourse.
If it were a political echo, I'd say that all is as it should be.
But it's an echo for coordinator contact, and that doesn't seem to
be happening.

Is Bob's absence acceptable behavior? I've been asking around and
trying to follow all the threads, and expectations seem to be mixed
and contradictory. Here are some of the more widespread
expectations I've encountered:

1. The ZC and all of the rest of the coordinators (usually
expressed as "*C") should be leading Fido into the 21st century,
providing the sense of direction for the rest of the people there.

2. The ZC and *C should only serve as nodelist clerks and let
Fidonet alone to run itself.

3. The ZC and *C are charged with the administration of Fido, but
should only act at the express direction of the sysops whom they
represent, who's expressed will must be in the form of a democratic
election or referendum.

Despite the contradictory expectations, I believe that the onus
falls on Bob Satti to define his own role. The great egalitarian
movements over the centuries notwithstanding, there has never been a
case where the masses organized themselves except through a leader.
Their focus may have been through the existing leaders, or through a
revolutionary who unseated these leaders, but the principle of
leadership is unwavering throughout all history.

The bad news is that Bob Satti doesn't have a public mandate right
now. The good news is that he therefore doesn't have to do anything
he doesn't want to. He can denounce leadership if he wishes - the
job of coordinator is kinda vaguely defined and could be anything
from a nodelist clerk to the King of Kings. But if he wants to
lead, then he's going to have to talk with the people.

If he wants to hide, that's fine with me. I can even sympathize -
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the reports of the conflicts he had to endure would be daunting.
One doesn't really need a lot of contact with a nodelist clerk
anyway. But if he wishes to hide, then he's going to have to
reconcile himself to the fact that folks will find a leader
somewhere and at some time. It could be a moderate who will work
with him to the greater good of Fido, or it could be a demagogue who
only wishes to unseat him.

--
| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/[email protected]
| Internet: [email protected]
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]

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ARTICLES
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FidoNews Article Submission Guidelines

FidoNet address 5:5/23

Updated 16 August 1998 by Henk WOlsink
Updated 1 Mar 1998 by Zorch Frezberg
Updated 1 Jan 1998 by Christopher Baker
Updated 29 May 1991 by Tom Jennings
Based on the original work by Thom Henderson

| denotes a change since the last update |.

"Fido" and "FidoNet" are registered trademarks of
Tom Jennings, Box 410923, San Francisco CA 94141, USA
and are used with permission.

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SYNOPSIS:

FidoNews is the newsletter of the FidoNet computer network,
for both its Sysops and users. It is passed to its readers
electronically via the FidoNet and other computer networks
and to non-network readers as well as to the InterNet.

This document intends to tell you how to write and submit
articles for publication in FidoNews. Much of it describes
the technical specifications which an article must meet in
order to be included in the newsletter, as well as broad
(very) guidelines on content. (Of course you realize
articles can be submitted only electronically.)

Please read this document carefully.

The article you save might be your own.

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INTRODUCTION:

FidoNews was originally founded in early 1984 to include
all parts of the lives of its member Sysops and users,
which of course means not just technical matters. We do
not have fixed goals of maximum distribution or maximum
readership (i.e. lowest common denominator) but only to
meet the needs of our individual network members. The
success of this venture has always been contentious at
best (ahem).

In any case the grand experiment continues.

Over fifteen years later and roughly 20,000 Nodes in the
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network, the editorial policy, or lack of one, of FidoNews
has shown to best fit our ever-changing and unpredictable
needs.

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SUBJECT MATTER:

Articles on any subject of interest to FidoNet members and
users are welcome and encouraged, not necessarily of a
technical nature, though priority may be, but not
necessarily, given to articles of importance to the FidoNet,
its technology and its uses; other networks such as uucp and
the Internet; social aspects of communications; ethical
issues; other related matters.

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ARTICLE LENGTH:

Try to keep articles short. The longer it is, the less
likely people are to read it. Consider splitting long
articles (more than five pages) into smaller articles to
be run serially.

Exceptions will be made at the whim of the editors.

For practical reasons, we will attempt to keep FidoNews to
a "reasonable size", which is of course a highly subjective
and variable thing. As of Mar 1998, the goal is to keep
each issue under 100,000 bytes. Decisions regarding content
may be made based upon this, though in general it shouldn't
be an issue.

As above, exceptions will be made at the whim of the
editors.

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WRITING GUIDELINES:

We are not all professional writers, nor is that even a
goal for the FidoNews -- we want real communication to and
from real people; even at the expense of so-called "good
writing", which is frequently a tool to exclude.

There are, however, a few minimum requirements for any
successful writing, even for the lowly FidoNews:

* The subject discussed must be clear to people other
than the author! Don't assume that people will pick
up the context from your writing. Tell them
_explicitly_.

* Why are you writing this? It may _seem_ obvious --
"Review of the new Acme 75-baud Modem" -- but it's
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not. Are you the manufacturer? An irate customer?
Let us know your point of view.

* Who *are* you? A good question! Anonymity is
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editing may be delayed from appearing in FidoNews.

* Articles will appear when space becomes available,
not necessarily the "next" issue. If your article
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submit it; the editor still has final say.

* The editor reserves the right to request changes
from an author to meet these "standards", which you
have to admit are pretty loose. It is not the intent
for this to be a mechanism to refuse articles the
editor does not like, but simply to keep the
contents intelligible.

* If we have a backlog of articles, we may get fussier
about things. Historically, this has not been a
serious problem.

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SUBMITTING AN ARTICLE

TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS:

If all that hasn't scared you away, the next step is to
create a text file which contains the text of your article.
The resulting file should be sent or uploaded to "Editor",
| FidoNet address 5:5/23, or to "[email protected]".

The "physical" location (and phone number) of FidoNews
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Filenames must follow the MSDOS standard:

FILENAME.TYP

a 1 to 8 character file name (A - Z, 0 - 9)
a period,
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a 0 to 3 character file type (A - Z, 0 - 9)

File types are used to distinguish types of submissions, as
follows:

.LET Letters to the Editor.
.ART An article, commentary, open letter, or
general news item.
.GUE Want to write a Guest Editorial?
Place [*Name & Node on line 1]
.RTX Need to make a Retraction of a previous
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.COL Want to become a regular contributor
with your own column?
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personal story.
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to share?
.REV Reviews of related product, services,
or programs.
.JOK Net humor in print.
.FIC FidoNet (computer related) short fiction.
.CMX Comics in ASCII.
[watch those lines at 70 columns!]
[.CMX that are political will be
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.NOT A notice for the back of the issue.
Keep them short.
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Web Pages of general interest.

If your file doesn't have one of the above extensions, then
it will lay around taking up disk space until someone takes
a look at it and realizes what it is.

Maybe.

The name of the file is up to you, though you should use a
name which is not likely to be "stepped on" by someone
else -- the system will not guarantee file names are unique.
For example, FNEWS.ART is probably not a good name for an
article.

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CHARACTER SETS:

The character by character contents of the file itself must
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meet the following standards or it cannot be published in
FidoNews.

The FidoNews staff WILL NOT be responsible for making file
contents conform to these standards.

* FLUSH LEFT MARGIN: Please do not put a "left margin"
on your articles. Have the text start at the very
first column.

* RIGHT MARGIN AT COLUMN 70 OR LESS: Less is tolerable,
more is definitely not. If your cursor is resting at
column 71 when your line is ended, you're okay. But,
*one* character past that, even with trailing spaces
and MAKENEWS will barf on your submission.

If your submission is physically rejected, the Editor
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* NO FUNNY CHARACTERS: This includes formfeeds, returns
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The only control codes (character codes 0 through 31
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Not required.

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yourself to printable ASCII characters in the range
20 hex to 7E hex (space to tilde).

* LINES TERMINATED: Each line in the article should
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standard (CR/LF) or the unix standard (LF only).

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SUBMISSION FORMAT:

Below is a sample article properly formatted. Features of
it are discussed further below.

--article file example begins below this line--
*A Sample Article [this is in LINE 1 starting at COLUMN 1]

This is My Title
by Joe Schmoe, [Netmail/email address]
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And here is my article. Note that it is flush left (zero indent).
Also note that the right margin is at column seventy so that it
won't overflow "most" text windows. Each line has a newline. Note
the *'ed first line. My article will be listed in the table of
contents exactly as it appears after the * above.

Figure 1. Table 1.
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Note that we am not using any funny-o characters. This ensures
that the final article will look the same to every user, no
matter what sort of hardware he has.

This is the last sentence of our article.

--article file example ends above this line--

The FIRST line of text is the Table of Contents line. It MUST
begin with an asterisk * as shown above. NO BLANK lines above
title line are permitted. If you do not follow this instruction
exactly, the article will not be listed in the Table of Contents.
This Table of Contents listing method works for all submission
file types.

* Everything that follows the *'ed line will appear in
the body of the newsletter. The *'ed line will be
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repeated as your title in the article BE SURE to REPEAT
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* Next should be the title or name of your article,
your name, and contact information (network
address(es), Postal Service address, etc). Try to
keep it to one or two lines each.

* Put a blank line between paragraphs. Paragraphs that
all run together are very difficult to read, and may
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* If you want to put in a table or a figure, go right
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* Don't put a lot of blank space at the top or bottom.
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* Please check for basic errors in spelling, grammar,
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you don't want it to embarrass yourself do you?

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* Don't use FidoNews to grind your personal axes
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Issues is another. Articles that merely quote
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SUBMISSION DEADLINES:

FidoNews is published on Monday of every week.

| To assure the best possible chance of being published in
| this week's issue, the deadline for file submission to
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| The deadline for submissions via NetMail, E-Mail, or in
| the FIDONEWS Echo is 1800 UTC/GMT the previous
| Friday.

Submissions which miss the deadlines will be processed the
following week. Submission by deadline is not a guarantee
of appearance in that week's FidoNews but it is likely
depending on volume of submissions.

As well, submissions may be missed due to changes in the
personal schedule of the FidoNews Editor, but should be
published in the following issue.

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Eldridge Cleaver - Coda
by Jerry Schwartz 1:142/928

I don't know if this supports Doc Logger's Chautauqua from last
week, or gives it the lie, but I found it fascinating: Eldridge
Cleaver became a staunch anti-Communist Republican. At the time
of his death, he was working as a diversity consultant.

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COLUMNS
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Dear Editorbeing,

This column is submitted by Doc Logger (163/110) who was
marveling that Madame DuFarge's scarf was finally getting
shorter. Doc was also recovering from serious eel wounds and
bitterly complaining that he had to type with only one
flipper. If only he'd had Monica Lewinsky at his side it
would have been a fair fight with the eel.

Roll da flic, Henk....

Dear Reverend Visage,

You'll be pleased to know that the Snooz successfully became
another offshore export, this time to country that hosts
Winnie's tire recycling emporium. I hope that we can look
forward to weekly reports on the entertainments available at
Sun City where even Anne Murray can still get bookings.

This week has marked the denouement in the death spiral of
Kohl's career as a Fido elflord. His last frantic and
petulant wailings occurred in the ZEC echo where he
attempted to hoof out all participants because he asserted
that they were off-topic. In a miracle not unlike the Second
Coming, Satti woke up long enough to affirm Gary Gilmore as
the interim ZEC and Kohl's nodelistings were reduced to the
status of mere Fidopeasantry. Our prayers and our edible
underwear should go out to Kohl as he shrieks at everyone
for conspiring to short-circuit his path to self-perceived
greatness.

After briefly surfacing for 19 public words of wisdom, Satti
announced that he was scampering back to his bunker. In one
of those moments of unintended humour, Satti announced in
the ZCC echo that the other ZCs should not expect prompt
responses from him for several weeks. This message motivated
Ward Dossche to ask the obvious, which was how anyone would
notice his absence considering that he has done nothing
since he clawed his way into the IC position.

Lisa Gronke, The Fidonet Mistress of Antiquities, asked what
seemed like a very pertinent question in one of the echos
which paraphrased to: If you were suddenly blessed with an
IC hat, what would you do to penetrate the Event Horizon
that seems to shelter Zone 6 from the rest of the Fido
universe? Perhaps Kohl should be sent to that zone so that
he can unite them in adversity and give them the motivation
to re-organize their nodelists and mail delivery. Perhaps
His Henkness can boldly go where no Snoozlord has gone
before and find a Zone 6 correspondent who can outline the
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present chaos that afflicts them.

There are only five readers of the Snooz this week because
Andrea Santos is on holidays. She said something about
accompanying tomatoes on a perilous journey but the exact
details were shrouded in mystery. I fear for her safety
because you can't trust vegetables (as anyone who has
followed Satti's career can attest.)

I must go, Visage, your secretary reports that you have
caused another disturbance at a foreign embassy where you
demands for more Scotch to be delivered by diplomatic pouch
have been met with strange turbofan engine noises
approaching from carrier based launch sites. Perhaps your
declaration of a fatwa against bad Country&Western music
wasn't such a good idea after all.

Regards,
Doc Logger,
Eel Wound Recovery Unit,
Furlang Island,
South Pacific

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NET HUMOR
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Introducing the new Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge device,
trade-named: BOOK.

BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology: no wires, no
electric circuits, no batteries, noting to be connected or switched
on. It's so easy to use, even a child can operate it. Compact and
portable, it can be used anywhere-even sitting in an armchair by the
fire -- yet it is powerful enough to hold as much information as a
CD-ROM disc.

Here's how it works: BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered
sheets of paper (recyclable), each capable of holding thousands of
bits of information. The pages are locked together with a
custom-fit device called a binder which keeps the sheets in their
correct sequence.

Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both sides
of the sheet, doubling the information density and cutting costs.
Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information directly
into your brain. A flick of the finger takes you to the next sheet.
BOOK may be taken up at any time and used merely by opening it.

BOOK never crashes or requires re-booting. The "browse" feature
allows you to move instantly to any sheet, and move forward or
backward as you wish. Many come with an "index" feature, which
pin-points the exact location of any selected information for
instant retrieval.

An optional "BOOKmark" accessory allows you to open BOOK to the
exact place you left it in a previous session - even if the BOOK has
been closed. BOOKmarks fit universal design standards; thus a
single BOOKmark can be used in BOOKs by various manufacturers.
Conversely, numerous BOOKmarkers can be used in a single BOOK if the
user wants to store numerous views at once. The number is limited
only by the number of pages in the BOOK.

You can also make personal notes next to BOOK text entries with an
operational programming tool, the Portable Erasable Nib Cryptic
Intercommunication Language Stylus (PENCILS).

Portable, durable, and affordable, BOOK is being hailed as a
precursor of a new entertainment wave. Also, BOOK's appeal seems so
certain that thousands of content creators have committed to the
platform and investors are reportedly flocking. Look for a flood of
new titles soon.

--
| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/[email protected]
| Internet: [email protected]
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
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NOTICES
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Future History

5 Oct 1998
29th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus".

10 Sep 1998
9th Anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

14 Sep 1998
Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

22 Sep 1998
First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

23 Nov 1998
35th Anniversary of Doctor Who.

1 Dec 1998
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
Tom Jennings.

16 Feb 1999
13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.

12 May 1999
12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.

24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

9 Jun 1999
Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.

10 Sep 1999
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

FidoNet:

Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
Echomail [pending]
WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti

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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org

Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://www.compconn.net

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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org

ZEC2:
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/

Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)

Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb

Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)

Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (Swiss?)

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Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)

Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr

Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl

Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)

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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

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Zone 4: http://www.altern.org/zone4

Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org

Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

============

Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+-----------
1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k | $10/$20mo.
1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | F2I | ??? | $2mo.
1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE,F2I | 28.8 | $10/yr.
1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $1mo.
1:2424/3121| Earl Clark | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | 33.6 | $15yr.
1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler | UUE,F2I | 33.6 | n/c
1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy | F2I | ??? | n/c
5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
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+ VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
+ F2I = Fido2Int (W95)
+ UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers

compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, [email protected]
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
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