F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 25 22 June 1998
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Don't Wait For The Translation...
Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 4
RESPONSE TO EDITORIAL IN FIDONEWS DATED 15 JUNE 1998 ..... 4
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 6
MooseChat Canadian humor/satire echo "backboned" ......... 6
Solution-oriented or Problem-oriented? ................... 7
4. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
Vanquished by squid deficiencies ......................... 8
5. WE GET EMAIL ............................................. 10
Dear fellow fidonuts ..................................... 10
6. NOTICES .................................................. 12
Future History ........................................... 12
7. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 13
FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 13
8. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 14
9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 17
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EDITORIAL
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It's interesting to see how questions asked are not answered.
In my own case, there are many questions asked of me for which I
sometimes have no answer for...and the refusal to respond is taken
as 'hiding something'.
What's forgotten is that _asking_ questions is the means by which one
can _gain_ knowledge. By the same token, what is often forgotten is
that getting an answer is sometimes a courtesy, as much as it is
sometimes a requirement.
Too often, especially in FidoNet, the mere act of asking questions is
tantamount to making an accusation...perhaps, it seems, because the
person being asked does often not _want_ those same questions asked
of them.
Too true, I too have been accused of these same things...but also
true is that I have had 'real world' experience as both a print and
broadcast journalist.
Sometimes, failing to answer a question is simply a matter of not
wishing to interfere in the process of gathering information, much
as the local police do not always answer questions about ongoing
investigations as to motive or even the names of the victims.
Sometimes, however, failing to answer a question is a means of hiding
from the truth of the matter...especially in political situations.
One only has to look at the media in Zone 1 for the ongoing Clinton
debacle as one example; no doubt, you've seen your own local version
at some point in time.
Too often, the same questions are used to enable an effort to create
and manipulate a 'lynch mob' mentality...and allow the 'court of
public opinion' to rule by emotion and innuendo, rather than logic
and reason.
To date, I have now had three RECs advise me that Ben Hamilton was
'duly appointed' to post the results of the RECC vote...
But no one has yet answered the question of whether or not the ZEC
was advised of the charges, let alone given the chance to respond to
them.
How interesting that this particular question has not only been not
answered, but that any explanation of the charges or the particulars,
as well as the causes, examples and reasons, have been declared as
being "secret", and not for you or I to know.
How interesting that the RECC would use the FidoNews to make an
'official announcement'...then refuse to give the basis for that vote
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being taken, let alone be announced.
How pathetic that the FidoNews is sought for use to encourage a 'star
chamber' courtroom, where secret trials are conducted without the
knowledge of the accused, as a means to give a sort of "validation"
of the effort.
How much worse it is that the first person elected by a SysOp-level
election in Zone 1 is to be removed by a 'secret vote' with 'secret
charges' of 'secret crimes' that those who elected the ZEC cannot be
told what these 'secrets' entail...let alone tell the ZEC who is
the 'secret criminal' in their 'secret trial'.
To that end, I suppose we must thank Ben Hamilton...without his post,
at the direction of the RECC, would we have even _known_ that such a
trial was underway?
Or should we be thankful for the small favors that our "elected"
officials deign to grant us mere peasants in their "fight" for an
'open and informed' FidoNet?
Does anyone else notice the oddity of logic in the actions of the
RECC? Especially since several of the RECC themselves have made it a
point to identify themselves as 'elected' officials within FidoNet?
But then, these are _questions_...and we've seen what these 'mean'
in terms of FidoNet...
And, in my own situation? The answers are forthcoming.
In other news...
Bob Kohl was retained as Region 10 Coordinator, by an almost 2:1
margin vote. Not that this is expected to stop what sniping and
accusations that have already occurred, nor the comments about
'wearing multiple hats in violation of Policy'.
[An interesting note: If 'wearing multiple hats' is a violation of
Policy, then why is the ZC also an IC, as a matter of course? Hmm?
Doesn't the ZC have as much to do administratively as the IC?]
And, Thom LaCosta is currently testing a new EchoList software that
he is modifying to use in FidoNet Zone 1. Moderators are suggested
to link in and establish a new set of passwords, separate from any
already in place.
However, there are some concerns over the issue of the Zone 2 ELIST
containing different moderators than the same echoes listed in the
Zone 1 ELIST...and that the apparent NAB spokesman is pushing to have
the Z2ELIST be adopted instead as 'official' in Zone 1.
I can't think of a neater way to eliminate opposition than to take
their echoes from them, can you?
Consider this yet another reason why the ELIST should be independent
of the various distribution services is to eliminate the 'political
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usefulness' of the echoes as leverage.
-zf-
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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RESPONSE TO EDITORIAL IN FIDONEWS DATED 15 JUNE 1998
By Ben Hamilton, FidoNet 1:124/7008
This letter is in response to the editorial that was included in the
FidoNews issue on June 15, 1998.
I have been accused of selective quoting. The editor encourages you
to re-read the editorials, making sure you compare the meanings of
what the editor wrote to the selective quoting done in the reply.
Perhaps the editor should also re-read my reply from last week, in
which I plainly state why selective quoting was necessary:
BH> The editorial contained several inaccuracies that I would like
BH> to talk about. Hopefully, the personal knowledge I have of some
BH> of the issues will be of more value than the best guesses of the
BH> editor.
To elaborate, since I have personal knowledge of only some of the
comments made by the editor, it is only proper that I respond to
only those comments. The items that I selected were the ones to
which I have personal knowledge. The editor is free to state
whatever views he likes on the other issues, regardless of accuracy,
as far as I am concerned, as I have no way to counter information
that I myself have not witnessed and verified.
There was, unfortunately, an inaccuracy in my reply from last week.
Rather than make you guess, as the editor seems to have chosen to do,
I would like to take this opportunity to highlight it. Here is an
excerpt from last week's reply which contains my error:
ed> the RECC holding secret meetings and refusing to discuss matters
ed> with the ZEC, and other similarly puerile activities, make it
ed> odd that Ben and the RECC would not include their 'list of
ed> grievances' that they claim would prove their position...in a
ed> public setting.
[...]
BH> Also, we never refused to discuss this with the ZC. I think we
BH> each welcome discussing this with Bob Satti at any time.
My error was simply that I misread "ZEC" for "ZC" in the editor's
editorial. My mistake.
What I said about discussing it with the ZC is true. Kohl, on the
other hand, completely disappeared from our view as of late. Perhaps
he's been too busy removing NCs and NECs, changing nodelist flags,
etc. I do specifically remember a discussion between the RECs...
Several RECs wanted to vote almost immediately after Kohl asked us
how we would go about removing an NEC. Some of the other perhaps
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more patient, level-headed RECs suggested that we show an extra
effort to try to work our differences out rather than giving up so
quickly. After that, Kohl removed the NEC on his own, then he
removed an NC, his REC quit because of his actions, and the
disclosure of in-transit netmail issue happened (which he has
recently apologized for, I hear). Then, we learn of a new R10C
election (no doubt a chief reason he apologized, I believe) that due
to its timing and the fact that only NCs (the NCs that Kohl hasn't
removed from office, of course!) can vote in, has (pardon me, ed)
"suspicious" written all over it. If this were happening in R19,
I bet the editor would be having a field day! But it's in R10, so
it's "politics as usual."
Region 10 matters shouldn't concern those outside of Region 10. They
do, however, allow us to see what can happen when FidoNet as a whole
lets someone get away with ignoring the "multiple hats" guideline.
Again, I speak only for myself. The views expressed in this letter to
the editors do not necessarily reflect the views of any other RECC
members. I will be back if I notice any other interesting things to
comment about. As I write this, it's Saturday morning, so I hope you
all have a great Father's Day!
-Ben Hamilton
FidoNet 1:124/7008
Internet:
[email protected]
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ARTICLES
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MooseChat Canadian humor/satire echo "backboned"
by Stephen Hart, 1:249/127
[email protected]
Greetings! I am writing this "short" article to let y'all know that
the MOOSECHAT Moose and Hoser "Canadian Humor" Chat echo has recently
moved from being a Canadian regional echo to being available on the
various FidoNet echomail backbones and 'spines.
Having accomplished the main purpose of this article, I could then
have taken a couple different routes. Rather than attempt some of
the humour and satire to be found in the message area, I'm just going
to give a "quick" description of what MooseChat is like...
MooseChat is an echo for anyone who wants to attempt witty, humorous,
or just plain silly messages. Many distinguished moose, Hosers from
the Great White North, and even famous Performance Artists like
Saddam Hussein and George Bush have all frequented MooseChat at one
time or another. A moose-like angle, alias, or shtick is appreciated
but not necessary. Moose sometimes stray into serious topics and
satire is often seen, but those attempting serious discussion may
need to survive receiving silly replies.
The MooseChat "echo theme" is to disseminate knowledge about the
noble moose, to discuss attributes of moose we have known and
admired, and to generally enter messages which are a bit more silly
or offbeat than one finds in most other echoes.
Lest you think that unique Canadian content is not a significant part
of MooseChat, I'll mention that participants will happily discuss
topics like "Cheese as a significant part of Canadian Culture<tm>,"
"the letter U's importance to both our French and English heritage,"
plus "Doughnuts and the Canadian Identity." I also assure you that
though Canadian politics may not always provide as "target rich" an
environment as some other countries, we do have our moments. As a
Canadian patriot, I just had to mention that last bit, eh?
In closing, I'll mention that MooseChat may not be for everyone
because appreciation of both humour and satire is very subjective.
Still, while there are other "silly chat" echoes, MooseChat does
seem to have a unique flavour. I hope some of you will find it an
amusing or witty place to hang out.
As for this FidoNews article; Perhaps it's ironic, but all I can say
is... "Dammit Shatner! I'm an echo moderator, not a comedian."
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The following philosophy is based on several years of experience by
both authors. The article speaks for itself, but we think those who
will protest most loudly against it are probably those about whom it
was written.
Solution-oriented or Problem-oriented?
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by Bill Drake (1:153/151) and Dallas Hinton (1:153/715)
In FidoNet, as in real life, there are two ways to deal with problems.
We can focus on the problems, or we can focus on the solutions.
In the past, most FidoNet members have focused on solutions. Lately,
many FidoNet members have been focusing on problems, thus wasting time
and effort. We believe it's time for FidoNet to return to a
solution-oriented focus.
Recently, a vocal group of grumblers has endlessly objected to any
attempts at modernizing or improving the effectiveness of FidoNet's
administration, and has endlessly objected to any changes in FidoNet's
technical standards.
Some people in this world are "conflict junkies". These people don't
want solutions, because solutions destroy their opportunities for
fighting and stirring up trouble.
Real solutions involve compromise, understanding, and fair play -- not
rhetoric, intolerance, or ignoring the rules when they happen to be
personally inconvenient.
It's time for clearer heads in FidoNet to prevail, before there's
nothing left of FidoNet but useless scrap. The conflict junkies must
not be allowed to win by default.
We will continue ignoring the attempts of conflict junkies to destroy
our hobby, and continue working happily with those who truly want
solutions. We think it's better to bring FidoNet into the 21st Century
than fight endlessly and end up mourning over FidoNet's grave.
Won't you join us, please?
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COLUMNS
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Dear Editorbeing,
This article is submitted by Doc Logger (163/110) who
battled vicious tides and enveloping fog to get to a phone
connection. Unfortunately, the phone was inconveniently
located in an abandoned fish processing plant so if this
missive smells a bit fishy, my apologies.
Roll da flic, Zorch....
Dear Reverend Visage,
Thank god the GPS navstar unit works and I was able to find
my way back to shore after spending the day fishing for
alleged squid. The boat operator took us out of sight of
land and then suggested that we drop our lines and hope for
the best. I haven't been so entertained since the last time
I watched the golf channel on TV. I think fishing must
require a great deal more rum than we had aboard because
even though I tried to attract whole hordes of squid with my
lunch and breakfast, nary a one took the bait. Naturally,
the fog rolled in before we'd been out for an hour and it
took the rest of the day to find the port.
Speaking of large quantities of fog, Visage, you'll be
pleased to know that there is an election in Region 10. Bob
"Dimbulb" Satti claimed that he had no control over the
shotgun timing of the election, even though Bob Kohl was
given a one week running start on any other candidate. One
of Kohl's trained seals, Mike Moon, has announced that he's
gonna vote for Kohl because he's pissed at the outside
interest in the region. This genius in one of Kohl's
appointees so it is hardly fair to expect independent
thought or reasonable judgment out of the guy.
I suspect that if Kohl wins the election, it will mean the
exit of a number of sysops who have reached their level of
tolerance with the idiocy of Satti and the malign
administration of Kohl. I sent a number of queries to the
co-returning officer of the election, Brenda Donovan, but
she didn't deign to respond. I particularly wanted her to
indicate whether she endorsed the ludicrous timing of the
election since it occurred to me that Satti's lunacy would
be somewhat curtailed if it wasn't so easy for him to find
naive quislings.
On a brighter note, Kohl dodged the silver bullet on the
policy complaints that were contemplated and pending. It
seems that Satti rejected the PC of Hans Mangold who had
complained when Kohl revealed the content of in-transit
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netmail. Kohl ducked a PC by Lesley-Dee Dylan by offering up
a last minute apology for his despicable behaviour.
I have a feeling that Alec Grynspan will be green with envy
when he discovers that I was given a quantum leap into new
technology. The good sysops of Net163, and particularly
Malcolm Campbell, gave me a Sinclair ZX 1500. That puppy
zips along at 8 mhz and can do 16k worth of file transfers
in just six minutes. Any second now, I should be able to
handle all of the literate Internet mail in the universe.
For those who don't know, my constant struggle to stay on
the trailing edge of technology has met with astounding
success.
This will have to be a short article Visage, the bartender
has announced Last Call and I'll need extra refreshments in
order to recover from my fishing ordeal. With any kind of
luck I should be ensconced on a sandy beach in P.E.I. where
the bathing beauties wear parkas to ward off the cold
Atlantic chill.
Regards,
Doc Logger
Somewhere in Cape Breton
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WE GET EMAIL
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! Original In : netmail
! Original To : FidoNews Editor, 1:205/1701
! Original From: Per Edman, 2:206/
[email protected]
! Original Date: Jun 16 02:34
zone 2, net 206, June 16
Dear fellow fidonuts,
Some people say, I note when I read my FidoNews, that politics this
or politics that is what is scaring people away from our net, or
what will keep them. I hold another opinion, as I think many
others do too.
Politics or playing them is not what makes the net fun (well, not
for more than a minority, anyway), but it may well be what keeps it
working. Even though politics and even net politics can seem to be
on the brink of collapsing the entire system, it often seems almost
designed to survive a whole lot of banging. People may argue with
each other, and do things they should not, but it will not break down
the net.
Instead, what we find netters afraid of, is that the net itself will
die out, and I hear that this evolution is much worse over in zone
1. People seldom leave because of politics (it does happen, though,
and it makes me sad every time), they leave because they no longer
find the net as much fun as it used to be. This can be because
something else is more fun, or because the net itself is becoming
less fun.
Now, read me right, I do not mean that everyone should tell a joke
every now and then, because the opinion of what fun _is_ can vary
greatly. What I do mean is that some people go around sulking so
much that they forget to get themselves into discussions they find
interesting.
Over here there are a few projects on the move to get more points
into the net, but none to keep the nodes we have. What we need is
an overall better attitude towards .. well .. the fall. We may lose
a few, and it gets us down, but if we keep a smile on our faces, and
keep on writing those flames and flowers and questions into the echo
areas, the net will go on.
And if someone ever asks you "Where could I go to find interesting
discussions", never hesitate to give them the appropriate software;
instead do what many Swedish fidousers would have done -- give them
a disk and the information they need to get an uplink.
I hear there are even easier ways to get on to fido nowadays.
Strange inventions over there in the first zone -- spam-safe gateways
into news and into mailinglists and other such things. I am
impressed.
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As long as the spirit lives on, fidonet will not die, and even in
the worst case scenario, we will be here for many years yet. You
knew that, but perhaps it is good to hear, sometimes?
So our nodelists are dwindling, but what about our pointlists?
Are not yours just a little on the rise, like ours?
With fewer nodes and more points, distribution gets tricky. _That_
is where we'll need those politics. Not in what politicians usually
do: hassling each other over nothings. This is not big, but it is
something we all should be personally interested in, being hobby
networkers, doing what we consider to be a hobby.
(..and scr*w commercial interests..)
Sincerely,
Per Edman <2:206/145.42>
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NOTICES
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Future History
3 Jul 1998
FidoNet European Convention (see issue #20 for details).
14 Sep 1998
Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].
22 Sep 1998
First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.
1 Dec 1998
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
Tom Jennings.
24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
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FidoNet:
Homepage
http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews
http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources
http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
FTSC page
http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
Echomail [pending]
WebRing
http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
General
http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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Zone 1:
http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10:
http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
Region 11:
http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Region 13:
http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm
Region 14:
Region 15:
Region 16:
Region 17:
Region 18:
http://techstop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19:
http://www.compconn.net
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Zone 2:
http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ZEC2:
Zone 2 Elist:
http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/
Region 20:
http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23:
http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
Region 24:
http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Region 25:
http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
Region 26:
http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26:
http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27:
http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29:
http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
Region 30:
http://www.fidonet.ch (Swiss?)
Region 33:
http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34:
http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34:
http://pobox.com/~chr
Region 36:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38:
http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41:
http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 48:
http://www.fidonet.org.pl
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Zone 3:
http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
http://www.altern.org/zone4
Region 90:
http://visitweb.com/fidonet
Net 903:
http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
Net 904:
http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5:
http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
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Zone 6:
http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65:
http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
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Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
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TCP/IP accessible nodes should submit their URL or Telnet
locations to the FidoNews Editor for a later publication.
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
Editor: Zorch Frezberg
Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker
"FidoNews Editor"
FidoNet 1:1/23
BBS 1-209-251-7529, 300/1200/2400/9600/V.34/V.90
more addresses:
Zorch Frezberg -- 1:205/1701,
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[email protected]
[email protected]
(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 642
Fresno, CA 93709-0642
U.S.A.
voice: 1-209-446-9038 [voice mail = 'blind' numbers not returned]
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