F I D O N E W S --       Volume 15, Number 17          27 April 1998
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                     And still it burns...

                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
    2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR  ....................................  3
    3. ARTICLES  .................................................  4
       ARCH - Virtual Museum Symposium  ..........................  4
    4. COLUMNS  ..................................................  6
       Whale Music for *Cs  ......................................  6
       Interim Poll Results  .....................................  8
    5. NET HUMOR  ................................................ 16
       DOS Users Anonymous  ...................................... 16
    6. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT  ........................ 18
       BOB KOHL is an ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE !!!!  .............. 18
       InterMail 2.50 Released!  ................................. 18
    7. NOTICES  .................................................. 20
       Future History  ........................................... 20
    8. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY  ...................................... 21
       FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing  .......................... 21
    9. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 22
    10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 24
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                                EDITORIAL
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    During the past week, having re-obtained transportation under the new
    emissions standards in California, I sought a bit of diversion in a
    bit of travel...and I took along the well-worn and dog-eared copy of
    Ayn Rand's ATLAS SHRUGGED to pass the non-travel time.

    I'm more and more amazed at the parallels between FidoNet and the
    opus of individualistic logic.

    What form of government is FidoNet composed of?  A democracy?

    A democracy is one in which the people function as their own
    government...yet many crying for a democracy are the same ones who
    are crying about the lack of action by our leaders.

    A democracy is one in which people have a set of rules or guidelines
    to function under, so no one can trample on the rights of others...
    yet many of those crying about the trampling of these rights are the
    same who refuse to recognize the Policy which we operate under.

    A democracy is one in which all can participate in matters which can
    affect them...yet many of those crying about the need to be involved
    are not affected in the least by the discussions that they are moving
    in upon.

    A democracy is one in which a majority of persons involved have the
    ability to enforce and cause changes...and yet a small minority of
    less than a dozen individuals is claiming that they should control
    the future of a region, without a single claim to ability than that
    they "have been wronged" by "those in charge".

    Not really a claim to ability or a indicator of qualification, no?

    If you haven't read ATLAS SHRUGGED, please do so...do not let the
    1100+ pages daunt you, as it may change your ideas on what is the
    real meaning of being "liberal" or "conservative" truly means...

    ...as well as who is _really_ "working" for _your_ benefit.

    An interesting thing, this week, and I note it here so that no one
    can go back and point it out incorrectly.

    Doc Logger submitted his LOGGER45.COL this week, after his
    LOGGER43.COL last week.  I point this out so that no one can accuse
    me of having censored or deleted a column.  More interesting is the
    poll that Doc has submitted...I know that I need not point out to
    others that statistics can be made to say whatever one wants;
    especially when subjective influences are brought into the mix.
    I'm presuming that the poll is LOGGER44.COL.

    Also, from last week's submission is the news release on the ARCH
    Virtual Museum...an interesting concept that members in Zone 2 may be
    better able to take advantage of in person than others.
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    Beyond that, the Fido Wars continue...

    Has anyone in Zone 2, other than the Regional Coordinators, been
    asked about the intention of Ward Dossche when he stated that "Zone 2
    would go its own way" since he was not elected as the International
    Coordinator?

    Just a question.

    -zf-

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                          LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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    Subject:  fidonet
       Date:  Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:43:22 -0400
       From:  Tees <[email protected]>
         To:  "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>

    Is there still a fidonet?


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                                ARTICLES
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    ARCH - Virtual Museum Symposium

      Definition of the Virtual Museum
      Legal Aspects
      Technical Parameters and Future Development
      Content
      Art in the Digital Age

     Thursday, May 7, 1998

        Dinner at Schloss Leopoldskron

     Friday, May 8, 1998

        Morning:
            opening remarks by Francesca von Habsburg (Austria)
            1) Definition of the Virtual Museum

        Afternoon:
            2) Legal Aspects

        Dinner hosted by the mayor of Salzburg

     Saturday, May 9, 1998

        Morning:
            3) Technical Parameters and Future Development

        Afternoon:
            4) Content

        Dinner hosted by the governor of Salzburg

      Sunday, May 10, 1998

        Morning:
            5) Art in the Digital Age


        Press Conference
             Following the symposium, a press conference will be held,
             at which the most important points will be recapitulated
             and the results presented.

             The symposium is open to the press. For your accreditation
             please contact:

      Pierre Collet
      Executive Director
      Verein der Freunde der Stiftung ARCH
      Gstuttengasse 29
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      A-5020 Salzburg
      Austria

      Tel: +43 662 84 26 16 29
      Fax: +43 662 84 26 15
      mobile: +43 664 412 21 02

      e-mail: [email protected]

      Francesca von Habsburg,
             Founder and Chairman, ARCH (Austria)
      Alonzo C. Addison,
             Project Director, University of California at Berkeley (US)
      Peter A. Bruck,
             Managing Director, Techno-Z R&D (Austria)
      Graham Defries,
             Attorney, Bird & Bird (UK)
      Matthew Drutt,
             Curator, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (US)
      Volker Grassmuck,
             Sociologist, Media Researcher (Germany)
      John Hanhardt,
             Curator, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (US)
      Lynn Hershman,
             Media Artist and Professor for Electronic Art
             at the University of Califonia, Davis (US)
      Thomas Krens,
             Director, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum (US)
      Robbin Murphy,
             Artist and Co-founder, artnetweb (US)
      Michael Naimark,
             Media Artist, Interval Research Corporation, Palo Alto (US)
      Hans-Peter Schwarz,
             Director, ZKM Media Museum (Germany)
      Jeffrey Shaw,
             Director, ZKM Institute for Visual Media (Germany)
      Charles Simonyi,
             Chief Architect, Microsoft Corporation (US)
      Peter Weibel,
             Media Artist and Curator (Austria)
      John Wyver,
             Chairman, Illuminations (UK)


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                                 COLUMNS
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    Dear Editorbeing,

    This article is submitted by Doc Logger (163/100 or
    [email protected]) whose eyes carried that same sort of
    glazed look that Dean Rusk had when he was busy bombing the
    world for peace & democracy. Logger's confused state had
    everything to do with reading hundreds of survey answers...

    Roll da flic, Zorch....

    Dear Reverend Visage,

    Thank you for thoughtfully sending 30,000 cute baby Harp
    seals to the offices of Swamp Swine Magazine. I know, I
    know...you assured me that it would be a perfect gift for
    Bridgit Bardot but do you have any idea what Harp seals eat?
    Can you fathom how they smell after processing several tons
    of oily fish? The only things that I've experienced which
    even come close to the stench were the sugar refineries in
    Fiji and the Democratic Convention in '68. I immediately
    shipped them off to the Easter Seals campaign and told 'em
    that they were really Jerry's kids. Since we seem to be
    exchanging gifts, I had several truckloads of sheep manure
    delivered to your driveway. Prunella will be so pleased when
    she emerges from the garage at full throttle.

    I would have attended to your urgent plea for more cash had
    I not been devoting my energies to building a Theremin for
    my son's excremental rock band. I figure that since the band
    has only learned three notes, that they might as well have
    an instrument which sounds suspiciously like aborting whales
    on Methedrine. The neighbours and the noise by-law
    enforcement officers have agreed that the sound exceeds new
    thresholds in the sonic insult department. (This probably
    explains why women are still throwing goldfish at my bedroom
    window late at night.) My son tells me that I am being
    unkind by characterizing his music as "Skunk rock" (music
    that truly stinks) but at least they don't do any John
    Denver covers.

    I think I have figured out the entire skill set needed by a
    ZC. Apparently, all you have to do is program a function key
    so that it quotes a whole message and appends the word
    "noted" to the end. Since Bob Satti carefully shepherds the
    42 words he writes each week, this leaves ample room to get
    really expansive on the larger issues. For example, when he
    was asked what qualities or platform did he advance which
    gained the support of the other ZCs to elect Satti as the
    IC, in a positively verbose display of literary genius he
    wrote:"Why don't you ask them?" Hint for Blondes: Yo Bob, I
    just asked you. In point of fact I did ask the other ZCs who
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    were equally sparing with the text. When asked, one ZC told
    me: "because Bob Satti got a majority of votes." Okay so
    logic wasn't one of those subjects that kept me awake at
    university but answering a question about a platform with a
    statement that the election is complete strikes me as a
    tadge absurd. I suspect that some of the ZCs aren't playing
    with a full set of disciples at the supper table. Our
    prayers and our edible underwear should go out to them in
    their hour of need.

    I think also that the *Cs haven't taken seriously the radish
    problem that has been developing in the miscellaneous
    elflord echos. As a professional trendmonger, I tend to spot
    these things in their larval stages so it is best to get
    them lashed down before they larvate into another Netwar.

    Did you notice that it is getting hotter on Zorch's planet.
    He keeps mentioning the "scorched earth policy" without
    elaborating on exactly what he means. I also spotted what
    looked like a statement that Ward was so bored that he
    played with his business card GIF. Gawd, when his Zorchness
    has to do that much deep-sea diving to come up with a new
    conspiracy theory then I think it is time he added more
    tinfoil to his windows to keep out the Venutian thought
    control radio waves. I also noted that last week's Snooz was
    full of vulture effluvia from RanD whose reading material
    seems to be dedicated to the nodelist. As the good and
    decent people that we are, we should send him a copy of
    "Bromiliads of the Antarctic Plateau" so that RanD's
    fudge-like mind can be improved.

    For this week's Chautauqua I'll start with an amusing quote
    from the book "The Demonic Comedy" by Paul William Roberts.
    Roberts spent time in Iraq working as a correspondent for
    Saturday Night Magazine. The exchange quoted here occurred
    between Roberts and an Iraqui factotum named Omar:

    " 'We have democracy here,' Omar assured me, 'Although
    people saying we are not. Why are they saying that?'

    'The reason they are saying that, Omar, is because your
    president wasn't elected, and you have no official
    opposition parties. It may seem a quibble, I know, but we
    Westerners are a spoiled lot.'

    'Saddam he is *elected*!!' His voice soared into a warbling
    treble. 'What is this bull's sheet, not *elected*?'

    'Who elected him?'

    'Revolutionary Council is electing him.'

    'How is the Revolutionary Council elected?'

    'Saddam he is personally choosing them,' replied Omar , with
    pride.
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    'Oh well, sorry then: that sounds pretty democratic to me.'

    He grunted satisfaction. 'Yes. People they not understanding
    Iraqui way. They too much jealous that we now have the most
    advanced nation on earth.' "

    Poor Omar. If only he'd known that Fidonet had achieved the
    same "democratic" zenith he would have been cowed for sure.
    Or perhaps Omar was the consultant hired to create Policy4
    because it is hard to imagine the document being written by
    anyone with less than his keen grasp of political
    philosophy. The fact that the elflords are still hiding
    behind the skirts of policy in the face of rather
    overwhelming sentiment suggesting a different course of
    action is a true monument to the ZC/RCCs. Included in a
    separate article in this week's Snooz are the results of a
    survey I conducted. If the results are accurate which I
    believe them to be, then it is time for the elflords to
    clamber down from their respective perches and change the
    operating procedures which have dismayed the sysop peasantry
    for so long.

    One of the grievous omissions in my survey report is that I
    forgot to thank all those who took the time to respond. A
    thousand thank-yous to you all for helping me cast a little
    light into the darkness of the elflords' lair.

    I must go, Visage, my son just fired up the Theremin and the
    house is surrounded by lawyers in heat. It seems that they
    don't believe that simulating the fall of Jericho is an
    appropriate activity here in the Pink Flamingo Paradise. The
    first vibrant chords of the Theremin at a mere 800 watts
    only leveled three city blocks so I don't know what they're
    whining about. As the good and decent people that we are, I
    suggest that the lawyers be re-trained to become productive
    members of society... as sociologists.

    Regards,
    Doc Logger
    Furlang Island,
    South Pacific





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    Interim Poll Results

    Completed surveys are still trickling in but there have been
    enough responses to clearly indicate trends. Using
    nodelist.100, I processed the list for duplicate phone
    numbers which carried the same sysop name. The duplicates
    were removed from the list, as were occurrences of the same
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    name under different telephone numbers. While this didn't
    eliminate all of the duplicates since a number of net
    function addresses were identified by title, it did set a
    upper maximum number of sysops in Zone 1 at 4,755. Taking
    20% of that number, a second list was compiled to select the
    951 addresses who would receive the survey.

    Each of 342 NCs were automatically put on the survey list,
    and an additional 609 sysops were chosen. The selected
    sysops were chosen by counting the nodes in each net, taking
    20% of that number, and then randomly selecting the
    appropriate number of nodes. A minimum of 1 sysop in
    addition to the NC was selected from each net. To adjust for
    the rounding up that resulted from taking at least one
    sysop, the number of surveys sent to net163 was reduced.

    Commencing April 12 and ending April 19th, attempts were
    made to send the survey to all 951 sysops by crashmail. Part
    of the list was sent by Malcolm Campbell (163/307) and the
    balance was sent directly from my system. Routed netmail was
    not used to send the surveys.

    Of those where an attempt was made, 86 nodes could not be
    sent the survey either because their line was answered with
    a voice, an answering machine, a fax machine, or my system
    could not initiate a successful mail session once a
    connection was made to a working modem. The survey was
    therefore sent to 865 sysops which is 18% of Zone 1. The
    survey was also posted in various echos with an open
    invitation to submit responses. (Only 4 responses were
    generated as a result of posting in echomail conferences.)

    As of April 22, 1998 at 3:30pm, I have received 273
    responses which represents a return rate of 31% and
    represents 5.74% of the nodelisted sysops in Zone 1. (My
    goal was to get surveys from at least 5% of the Zone's
    sysops.) I feel that the sample was large enough to be
    representative and reflective of sysop opinion.

    The survey consisted on 12 questions. For a number of the
    questions the answers that were tendered were a simple "yes"
    or "no" response. For some of the questions, many
    respondents wrote at least several sentences and some wrote
    a great deal more than that. For example, the text file
    where I captured the answers to Question 10 is 165 pages
    long! In addition, a number of respondents wrote on other
    issues which they felt hadn't been addressed in the survey.



    Results: Question 1: From your perspective, what is the
    greatest challenge facing Fidonet? (ie. what is broken, what
    should be fixed, and how would you fix it?)

    A poor leadership             39%
    B internet                    31%
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    C lack of users               15%
    D lack of good BBS interface  13%
    E nothing wrong               11%
    F poor echomail content        5%
    G over-regulation              1%
    H sysop apathy                 1%
    I lack of fun                  1%

    Note: Results total to more than 100% because many sysops
    gave multiple reasons.

    Of those who expressed a variant of poor leadership,
    commentary ranged from:

    "Poor to no sysop representation at the higher levels. Too
    much administration in a hobby network. Power mongering!"

    to

    "The greatest challenge facing Fido is that the upper *C
    structure thinks they own Fido. Their total disregard for
    what grunt sysops want is driving systems away daily."

    to

    "Get rid of Satti and that ridiculous system of appointing
    RCs who then vote for the ZC. Banana republics would be
    ashamed of this nonsense."

    Of the sysops who cited the Internet, most characterized its
    graphics and global accessibility as something which Fido
    could not compete. A number of sysops suggested creating a
    good GUI for BBS access and widely distributing it.

    Conclusion: The natives are restless and would like the
    upper *C structure to tune in as opposed to "ruling." The
    anecdotal commentary suggested that upper *Cs are viewed as
    unresponsive and often capricious, particularly the R10C and
    the R11C. On the plus side, good things were said about Ken
    Tuley and Jerry Schwartz.


    Results: Question 2: Do you read Fidonews?

    A: Always      37%
    B: Sometimes   34%
    C: Often        6%
    D: Never       23%

    Of those sysops who indicated that they never read Fidonews,
    47% said they would read it if they could get it from their
    NC/NEC but that it simply wasn't available or distributed in
    their net.

    Best unintended humour came from a sysop who "never read
    Fidonews" but who also suggested that I ought to write an
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    article commenting on the behaviour of *Cs.

    Conclusion: If Fidonews is the "glue that binds Fidonet
    together" then perhaps an attempt should be made to
    distribute it to all sysops. Whether sysops read it or not
    is a matter of their own choice but Fidonews could certainly
    be made more meaningful if the ZC/RCs used it to announce
    administrative matters.

    Results: Question 3: Were you (or your NC) elected by sysop
    level vote?

    A: Yes         78%
    B: No          20%
    C: Don't know   2%

    Of the reasons cited by people who answered "no", 76% said
    that there was no vote because only one candidate was
    willing to take the job.

    Conclusion: At the NC level, sysop level voting for NCs is
    common place with only parts of Regions 10 & 11 still having
    RCs appoint NCs.

    Results: Question 3b: Was your RC elected by sysop level
    vote? If not, what mechanism was used to select your RC?

    A: Sysop level vote  68%
    B: Appointed         15%
    C: NC level vote      7%
    D: Don't know        10%


    Conclusion: Sysop level votes are commonplace within Zone1
    with Regions 10 & 11 being exceptions.

    Results: Question 4: Were you consulted by your NC or RC
    with respect to the recent election of a new International
    Coordinator?

    A: No      89%
    B: Yes     11%

    Of those who answered "yes", 87% said that they'd read about
    the election in either the Z1C or the ZCC-PUBLIC echo, or
    read it in a Fidonews column.

    Conclusion: The sysops were not consulted, and therefore the
    Z1C had no mandate to cast a vote on behalf of Zone 1.


    Results: Question 5: If you were not consulted, would you
    prefer to have been given the opportunity to do so?

    A: Yes                           67%
    B: No                            16%
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    C: Not applicable, don't care    17%


    Conclusion: The ZC should improve efforts to communicate
    with sysops on significant issues.


    Results: Question 6: If policy could be amended(or ignored)
    would you prefer that NCs, RCs, and ZCs be elected? If so,
    would you prefer a sysop level vote? (if you favour
    elections and have another suggested mechanism, then please
    indicate what it is.)

    A: sysop level votes for all *C positions               57%
    B: sysops vote for NCs,NCs vote for RCs,RCs vote for ZC 27%
    C: current P4 system of appointments                    11%
    D: don't know, don't care                                5%

    Conclusions: Taken in context with the answers given in 3 &
    3B, sysop votes are already in practice and 84% of sysops
    would prefer election procedures for all *Cs.

    Results: Question 7: Have you ever filed a policy complaint?

    A: No    84%
    B: Yes   16%

    Of the respondents who answered "yes", 94% were either NCs
    or RCs.


    Results: Question 8: Have you ever had a policy complaint
    filed against you?

    A: No   79%
    B: Yes  21%

    Of the people who answered "no", 67% said that while a
    complaint was never filed against them, they were threatened
    with one at least once.


    Conclusion: Either 21% of the Zone sysops are Fidocriminals,
    or policy complaints are being filed for frivolous reasons.

    Question 9: Are there issues in Echomail which you feel need
    more rules to regulate, control, or illuminate?


    A: No                                     79%
    B: Yes, with respect to moderator duties  11%
    C: Yes, with respect to other issues       5%
    D: No opinion                              3%
    E: Yes (no elaboration)                    2%

    Conclusion: It is unlikely that a new Echopol document will
    FIDONEWS 15-17               Page 13                  27 Apr 1998


    receive support or ratification by the Zone 1 sysops.


    Result: Question 10: The nodelist in Zone 1 is shrinking
    because sysops are leaving Fidonet. What is your best guess
    about why they are leaving and what could be done to
    encourage them to stay?

    It was this question which produced the longest and most
    thoughtful responses. Almost all respondents cited the
    Internet as being a competitive force against which Fidonet
    can't compete. The vast publicity that attends the Internet
    makes it the first choice of new modem/computer users when
    they want to link to a communication network. The existence
    of Fidonet is a well-kept secret in most municipalities.

    As a matter of historical perspective, in 1990 I surveyed a
    wide variety of Region 12 sysops. Using the definition for
    an "active user" as someone who had called the BBS more than
    50 times, 100% of the BBS systems had over 20 active users.
    Some had as many as 800. A similar mini-poll today indicates
    that a BBS would be lucky to have 5 active users and more
    than half exist with the sysop as the only participant on
    the BBS.

    One respondent summed up what turned out to be the majority
    opinion when he said "Attractiveness of the Internet without
    immature and illiterate power-mongers setting policy, making
    rules, making irreversible arbitrary decisions..." There is
    a deeply felt anger and frustration with the upper *C
    structure where it is felt that creative leadership has been
    replaced with entrenched non-responsiveness. One respondent
    asked "How did we get from Tom Jennings' noble dream to the
    likes of Bob Kohl?"

    Of those who tendered positive suggestions, the most
    frequent suggestion was to develop a GUI for BBS access and
    get it widely distributed. Several respondents suggested
    bundling a GUI interface with new computers as a result of a
    cooperative effort with retailers.

    A small minority (of which I count myself a member) believe
    that part of the problem is in the intrinsic lack of energy
    devoted to writing messages in echomail conferences. One
    respondent said "What do you expect when the 'breaker
    breaker' CB radio idiots sat in front of a keyboard? A
    higher level of communication? Serious conversation? Forget
    it."

    Recommendations:

    To Bob Satti:

    1) Encourage the RCs and NCs to re-establish the
    distribution of Fidonews so that it is available to leaf
    node sysops.
    FIDONEWS 15-17               Page 14                  27 Apr 1998


    2) Use Fidonews to disseminate your administrative positions
    and to inform the sysops of significant matters.

    3) Use the "exception" powers granted to the IC to ask the
    other ZCs for their approval to launch a policy change
    initiative. Specifically, ask for assent to create
    Zone-specific changes to policy with respect to
    selection/election of *Cs. Announce your intention to seek
    this assent in Fidonews and ask your RCs to collect a
    consensus opinion on the issue from sysops in their regions.

    4) Whether you obtain  assent from the ZCC or not, put to a
    sysop vote a selection of choices for the mechanisms by
    which *Cs obtain office in Zone 1. Announce the process in
    Fidonews along with an anticipated time frame for the
    results of the vote to become effective.

    To ZC/RCs:

    5) Create/appoint/call for volunteers - for a working group
    to devise a GUI interface which can be put into the public
    domain and freely distributed. (If it weren't for the
    efforts of a similar group that created the miscellaneous
    early software, Fidonet wouldn't exist.)

    6) Step back a pace or two and ask the question: Who do you
    serve? Then ask if your present mode of operation is
    constructive or destructive. Ask the sysops how you're
    doing.

    7) Help - not force - the echomail distribution system to
    become fully functional. Most of the work has already been
    done by the Stars and RECs  but at the net level there are
    significant logjams.

    To NCs:

    8) Establish in your net a group of capable people who are
    willing to assist sysops to either set up a BBS, or get it
    smoothly functioning. One of the foundations that built
    Fidonet was the willingness of sysops to help each other.
    Some of that tradition has been lost when a sysop who
    encounters difficulty receives not an offer of assistance,
    but a threat of expulsion.

    9) Advise the sysops in your net that if they wish to be
    informed about administrative matters, that they ought to at
    least glance through Fidonews which you make available for
    file request from your system.

    10) Repeat as often as is necessary: "I'm a nodelist clerk.
    I'm a nodelist clerk" until all thoughts of exercising power
    over sysops is gone from your mind.

    To moderators:

    FIDONEWS 15-17               Page 15                  27 Apr 1998


    11) Common practice grants extraordinary powers to
    moderators. Use it judiciously and sparingly. Educate rather
    than dictate, illuminate rather than invoke closure, and
    create rather than curtail. Look up the word "moderation" in
    the dictionary and be guided by what you read there. Perhaps
    as a pleasant change, post a set of "echo goals" as opposed
    to "echo rules."

    To sysops:

    12) A lot of people devote a lot of hardware, time and
    energy to bringing mail to your modem. Thank 'em every once
    in awhile and let them know that you appreciate it. (Thanks
    Ken) The Stars, the RECs & NECs make Fidonet happen and most
    of them are damned good at it.

    13) Ask yourself if communication is the whole point of
    Fidonet. If so, consider your actions and decisions based
    upon fostering that goal.

    To everyone:

    14) Fidonet, with or without formal rules relies upon the
    goodwill and cooperation of sysops. View with skepticism any
    rule which intrudes on that simple premise. Fidonet does not
    have to be an organization where common sense, cooperation
    and simple justice are brushed aside because a higher value
    is put on a policy document.

    15) Get rid of the lame macros, the emoticons, the
    screenfuls of quoted text, and engage the subjects of your
    conversation with pride and energy. The soul of Fidonet is
    in the messages you write.

    16) And finally, eschew yogurt.

    Regards,
    Doc

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

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    =================================================================
                                NET HUMOR
    =================================================================


    DOS Users Anonymous
    by Mike Riddle, [email protected]

    Subject: DOS users anonymous

    DOS Users Anonymous 12 Step Program

    The heart of the DUA's suggested program of personal recovery is
    contained in Twelve Steps describing the experience of the earliest
    recovering DOS users:

     1. We admitted we were powerless over upgrades - that our computers
        had become unmanageable.

     2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves
        - Microsoft - could restore us to sanity.

     3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care
        of Bill Gates as we understood Him.

     4. Made a searching and fearless Defrag and Scandisk of our hard
        drive.

     5. Admitted to Bill Gates to ourselves and to our list server the
        exact version of our current operating system.

     6. Were entirely ready to have Windows 95 remove all these
        accustomed benefits of convenience, reliability, and
        productivity.

     7. Humbly asked him to remove our current operating system's
        simplicity.

     8. Made a list of all files (hidden or system) we had accidentally
        deleted and became willing to commit to the Window's 95
        recycling feature.

     9. Made direct payment to Microsoft or its agent wherever possible,
        except when to do so would require us to use the MS Network.

    10. Continued to struggle with the Win 95 installation program and
        when we were finally out of time and patience promptly admitted
        it to Microsoft product support.

    11. Sought through the Microsoft home page to improve our conscious
        contact with Bill Gates as we understood Him, asking only for
        knowledge of His will for us and software (conforming to the
        Active Accessibility standard) to carry that out.

    12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps,
        we tried to carry this message to disabled computer users
    FIDONEWS 15-17               Page 17                  27 Apr 1998


        everywhere and to use Windows 95 (or higher) applications in all
        our computing.

    Newcomers are not asked to accept or follow these Twelve Steps in
    their entirety if they feel unwilling or unable to do so.


    -----------------------------------------------------------------

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    =================================================================
                    ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
    =================================================================


    BOB KOHL is an ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ... written
    by two U.C.L.A. undergrads!

    NOT REALLY.  Just kidding.

    BUT.... now that I have your attention, why don't
    you try some of these fine echos today:

    the HOMESCHL echo:
      Parent-to-parent support, help, and discussion of
      home-based and other alternative education.

    the PCBPPL echo:
      Discussion and support of Clark Development's
      PCBoard Programming Language (PPL).

    the AUDIO echo:
      Audio, sound, acoustics, techniques, recording, processing,
      applications, home stereos, theatres; plus professinal
      concert/sound reinforcement, recording and brodcast;
      audio's role in the emerging medias, help for equipment
      use, selection...  Anything AUDIO, that's the echo's name.

    All of the above available on the North American Backbone
    and distributed by the FidoSpine distribution system.


    -- Ronnie L. Grant, 1:3603/140
         or [email protected]

    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    InterMail 2.50 Released!

                 FURTHER DEVELOPMENT RELEASES INTERMAIL 2.50!

    April 20, 1998
    1:369/35

    (Coconut Creek, Fla.) Further Development, Inc. (FDI), announced
    today the release of the long-awaited InterMail v2.50.

    When asked why development of the new InterMail has taken so long,
    Peter Stewart, FDI President and author of the popular Fidonet-style,
    front-end mailer said, "We honestly thought it would only take a few
    weeks to complete... Still, we believe we beat out the "other guys"
    when compared to their estimates."

    Michele Stewart, FDI COO and wife of the author, provided additional
    details regarding the company's latest release. "We just won't
    FIDONEWS 15-17               Page 19                  27 Apr 1998


    release a product we feel isn't stable or complete," she said.
    "A program released on time with major bugs left in is just not our
    style. We'd rather wait and provide our customers with a solid,
    reliable product."  The new release also allows sysops to keep a
    demo on their systems which will run for 60 days from install without
    having to download a new time-limited demo every month or so as
    required in the past.

    "As for our existing customers," she added, "we'd really like to
    thank them for their patience and loyalty. Such has gone a long way
    in keeping us working on the product despite opposition which would
    have had us rolling over and giving up long before this." All
    customers entitled to disks (i.e., those who paid for shipping in
    the past) will receive them shortly. FDI requests that 6-8 weeks be
    allowed for receipt since all addresses apparently have to be
    manually re-input after a hard drive crash last year wiped out their
    database.

    Some of the new features include being able to sync your system clock
    to Caller-ID or to another mailer, user-defined semaphores, 80 aka's,
    a brand new configuration program with extensive hypertext help,
    Editor support of several BBS message formats including *.msg,
    Hudson, Goldbase, WildCat 4.x, PCBoard 15.x and more. A nodediff
    processor is now also included.

    Further Development, Inc. can be reached for voice support and orders
    at 954-418-9400. The hours are Monday thru Friday, 11 a.m. to 8 p.m.
    Eastern. The company's Internet E-mail address is [email protected]
    and its Web page is accessible at http://www.furtherdev.com. The
    release version can be file requested as INTERMAIL or IMDEMO from
    their Mailer at 1:369/35 at 954-418-8110 or downloaded from their FTP
    site at ftp://www.furtherdev.com/pub (/demo). The company can also be
    reached by writing to: Further Development, Inc., P.O. Box 821864,
    South Florida, FL 33082-1864.

    InterMail is a trademark of Further Development, Inc. All other
    trademarks used herein are the property of their respective owners.

                               -30-

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    FIDONEWS 15-17               Page 20                  27 Apr 1998


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                                 NOTICES
    =================================================================

                               Future History

    30 Apr 1998
       Queens Day, Holland.

    17 May 1998
       Independence Day, Norway.

    22 May 1998
       Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.

    14 Sep 1998
       Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

    22 Sep 1998
       First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

     1 Dec 1998
       Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
       Tom Jennings.

    24 Jul 1999
       XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

    31 Dec 1999
       Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

     1 Jan 2000
       The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

     1 Jun 2000
       EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

    15 Sep 2000
       Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

     1 Jan 2001
       This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

    -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
       Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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                           FIDONET BY INTERNET
    =================================================================


    This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
    of this appearance.

    NOTE:  I am looking for a comprehensive list of Telnet, VMODEM, BinkP,
           Argus and other TCP/IP based nodes operating FidoNet on the
           InterNet, either by Zone or worldwide, to post here as well.
                                        - Ye Editor

    ============

    FidoNet:

     Homepage     http://www.fidonet.org
     FidoNews     http://www.fidonews.org             [HTML]
                  http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html  [ASCII]
     WWW sources  http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
     FTSC page    http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
     Echomail     http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
     WebRing      http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html  [TFN]
     General Info http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html

    ============

    Zone 1:       http://www.z1.fidonet.org

      Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

      Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

      Region 13:  http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm

      Region 14:

      Region 15:

      Region 16:  http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm

      Region 17:  http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
          REC17:  http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/

      Region 18:  http://techstop.pdn.net/fido/

      Region 19:  http://www.compconn.net

    ============

    Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org

    ZEC2:
    Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/

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      Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

      Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

      Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)

      Region 25:
                  http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254

      Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

      Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (in French)

      Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (in Swiss?)

      Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)

      Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (in Spanish)
          REC34:  http://pobox.com/~chr

      Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

      Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

      Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)

      Region 48:  http://www.fidonet.org.pl

    ============

    Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

    ============

    Zone 4:       (not yet listed)

      Region 90:
        Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)

    ============

    Zone 5:       http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

    ============

    Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org

      Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)

    ============

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    instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
    respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
    www.fidonews.org.

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    You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

                         http://www.fidonews.org

    STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
    Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:

                         ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/

    Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
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    for that year's issues.  The total set is currently about 13 Megs.

                                =*=*=*=

    The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
    available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
    homepage on the World Wide Web at:

                 http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html

    There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
    to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
    link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.

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    A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
    1:1/23 [1:205/1701] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
    IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area X.  It
    is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
    Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.

                               *=*=*=*=*

    SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
    FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
    ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
    from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC".  ALL Zone
    Coordinators also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.

    "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
    trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
    and are used with permission.

            "Disagreement is actually necessary,
             or we'd all have to get in fights
             or something to amuse ourselves
             and create the requisite chaos."
                               -Tom Jennings

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