F I D O N E W S --       Volume 15, Number 16          20 April 1998
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                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
    2. COLUMNS  ..................................................  3
    3. COORDINATORS CORNER  ......................................  7
       Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 107  ......  7
    4. WE GET EMAIL  .............................................  8
    5. ARTICLES  .................................................  9
       Sloppy Nodelist Maintenance  ..............................  9
    6. NOTICES  .................................................. 53
       Future History  ........................................... 53
    7. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY  ...................................... 54
       FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing  .......................... 54
    8. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 55
    9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 57

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                                EDITORIAL
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    It's an interesting point of view to take...that a hobby should have
    as much fire and venom as real life politics...but then, I would
    suppose, that is the nature of the beast, no?

    Ward Dossche is now claiming that a majority of the ZCC is not in
    favor of last week's post of Bob Satti's election to the IC post.
    This on the heels of his announcement that Zone 2 would now go
    'its own way', since he was not himself elected to the IC post.

    Has everyone in Zone 2 been polled about this?  Or is Ward simply
    venting steam to save face?

    As well, the lockdown of the ZCC-PUBLIC echo continues...Ward has
    now directed all nodes carrying the echo to prevent messages that do
    not come from himself to be kept out of the echo.

    How..."democratic" a thinker he is.

    Perhaps, those in the "Zone 7" arena may wish to consider becoming
    their own Zone once again...perhaps.

    But, he did send me his "business card" to 'prove' he works where he
    claims to...I've already seen a variety of digital manipulations of
    the BMP file, some of which make me wonder what the original did
    look like.

    And, in Zone 1, the "Chaos Wars" continue, as local and regional
    problems are brought into Zone-wide echoes for both sympathy and
    attention, but with no real attempts at resolution at either the
    local or regional levels.

    In short, the "scorched earth" tactic I warned of earlier:

      "Destroy everything if you cannot control it for yourself."

    More's the pity when the well-meaning get caught up in the fervor and
    don't stop to consider what they've done...or how they've been used,
    over principles that they would not normally uphold.

    So long as the chaos continues, the justification for authority to be
    maintained is justified...that's a lesson learned long ago and in the
    history of more nations than in Zone 1 or Zone 2.

    The chaos continues to bolster the ravings of those promoting it, to
    show that the authority is overbearing in their attempts to maintain
    order...another lesson in elementary political science.

    The two sides stop, however, when those who have not taken sides come
    forward and take action on their own...and often to the tune of having
    to fight both sides at the same time, each trying to maintain its own
    agenda.
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    So...where do we go from here?

    Of note, as well, the submission of Macintosh documents from the
    Virtual Museum Project, will be delayed due to submission as .HQX
    documents, and should appear next week.  Last week's out-of-spec
    submission from RanD is included this week.

    -zf-

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                                 COLUMNS
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    Dear EditorBeing,

    This article is submitted by Doc Logger (163/110 or
    [email protected]) who was still puzzled by the strange,
    nocturnal transmissions from Bill Whitehouse. The last
    several messages from Bill contained what appears to be all
    of Machiavelli's "The Prince" translated into Swahili with
    generous insertions taken from Jane's Book of Weapons
    Systems. If Bill would ever indicate how to contact him, I'm
    sure that these messages could be properly deciphered.

    Roll da flic, Zorch....

    Dear Reverend Visage,

    I trust that Easter and Passover treated you kindly this
    year and that you weren't arrested again for trying to nail
    bunnies to a cross. The kindly editors at Swamp Swine
    Magazine were a tadge excited by the recent influx of petty
    cash vouchers from you. They particularly were concerned
    about the order for thirteen  tons of turnips, 3  Baywatch'
    tapes, and the complete song library of every bagpipe record
    ever released. Be careful Visage, I've never trusted turnips
    which pretty much is the theme of this week's article what
    with the usual elflord amusements.

    As I was writing last week's Snooz submission it occurred to
    me that the windmills that I tilt at may be expressing a
    minority position. In other words, I wondered if the
    majority of Fidoserfs truly were in love with Peefour,
    adored the RCs, and thought that Satti and representation
    were near relations. To do a baseline check of reality I
    wrote a survey questionnaire and, with the generous
    assistance of Malcolm Campbell (163/307) crash mailed it to
    a mailing list of nine hundred and fifty one Zone 1 sysops.
    On the list were *every* NC in the Zone, as well as a random
    selection of sysops from each net. As of this writing, the
    mail-out is almost complete and I've already started to
    receive impressive numbers of returns. Based on the trends
    so far, I discovered that I was wrong on a few issues (there
    are more than six readers of Fidonews) and  on others was
    understating the depths of disenchantment. When the process
    is finished I will collate the results and publish them in
    the Snooz. To those who have already responded, a thousand
    thank-yous. To those who received a survey, please respond -
    your input is valued. In the interests of fairness, I am
    seeking someone who is willing to "peer review" my summaries
    of the data and the conclusions that I will draw. In fact,
    I'll even extend the offer to the elflords who may wish to
    appoint someone to independently review the data.

    As mentioned previously in the Snooz, our odious buddy in
    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 4                   20 Apr 1998


    Region 10, Bob Kohl, has agreed to keep his mitts off the
    nodelistings of fidoserfs. However, in a petulant display of
    pique, Kohl has announced that he will attempt to replace
    Gerry Calhoun as NC of one of the nets. The RECs have
    started calling for Kohl's head on a platter because an
    R10EC hasn't been appointed yet. In an effort to avoid
    Kohl's imperialist ambitions, the RECs have established
    their own conference and seem to be united in adversity.
    Zorch has continued to slavishly support Kohl but has had to
    resort to increasingly more impressive leaps of logic and
    contortionate interpretations of policy. I think this may be
    one of those instances of where "my country, right or wrong"
    replaces common sense.

    I suspect you'll gag if I mention Bob Satti and common sense
    in the same sentence but you would admire the way he has
    been flinging his majestic manners at the serfs. For
    example, when asked whether a policy complaint appeal had
    been filed with him, he answered "I can neither confirm nor
    deny." Which begged the question whether this was just a
    perceptual handicap of his, or whether he truly was being
    nonsensical. In Satti's Kafkaesque world, those who are
    subject to policy complaints should be saved from the
    onerous task of raising a defense. After Satti weaseled on
    numerous requests to make the information public, he then
    headed for the bunker with the statement that he would only
    discuss the complaint with "those affected by it." I know
    that Dallas Hinton is probably hogging the Speak  N Spell so
    that Satti can't benefit from its use, but Satti said in his
    ruling: " I'm going  to lay out what I expect from net 163
    in the future.   Whether they like it or not, they aren't
    going to get any special treatment,  just because they
    mistakenly believe they aren't bound by policy 4.07. They
    shouldn't be getting special treatment from their NC or
    their RC, and they  won't get it from their ZC." Dooya
    suppose that on Satti's planet that his reference to Net163
    doesn't mean that the whole net might be subject to his
    totalist ambitions? Even more important, perhaps he should
    be told that we'd rather not bend over for his special
    treatment. Satti's foot stamping silliness is remarkable
    given that he is addressing an NC who has the full
    confidence of her net, in a Region where the RC was
    democratically elected in a sysop level vote. In terms of
    mandates, Satti doesn't have a pot to pee in. What Satti has
    also blithely ignored is that the policy complaint in
    question was filed by Martin Belcke's assistant RC - neither
    of whom have obtained an electoral mandate from their
    regions and both of whom are much loathed by their sysop
    peasantry. Also missing from Satti's ruling was a mention
    that he'd bothered to solve the original problem which was
    the inability of a Z6 sysop to find either an NC, RC or ZC
    in his zone who could offer an echomail feed and nodenumber.
    That net163 gave the sysop both a nodenumber and a mail feed
    was taken by the mouth breathing cretins like Gilmore as
    some sort of Fidocrime worthy of a policy complaint. As
    usual, these trolls have it ass-backwards. (Hint for
    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 5                   20 Apr 1998


    blondes: Yo, Mr. Belcke: Three of the nodes in your own net
    aren't running mailers. Perhaps before you set loose your
    trained seal on a nodelist hunt for Fidocriminals you oughta
    stoop  n scoop in your own yard.)

    What made Satti's eventual ruling into high farce was his
    claim that Net163 shouldn't have allowed a non-geographic
    node into their list without applying first for an
    exemption. Like, duh, we were asked for help, we gave it -
    immediately and effectively. That should have been the end
    of the story. The fact that we didn't raise our hands and
    ask Satti if we could go to the bathroom is just too darned
    bad. Based on his non-responsive behaviour in general, hell
    would have frozen over before we obtained permission to
    connect another sysop to Fidonet.

    For my Chautaqua this week I would like to lead off with a
    quote from Lewis H. Lapham who wrote in "Harper's Magazine":

    "The existence of a literature presupposes a literate and
    coherent public that has both the time to read and a need to
    take seriously the works of literary imagination. I'm not
    sure whether the United States ever had such a public;
    certainly it hasn't had one for the last thirty years. What
    we have instead is an opening-night crowd, astonished by
    celebrity and opulent spectacle, tolerating only those
    authors who present themselves as freaks and wonders and
    offer the scandal of their lives as proof of their art.
    Lacking even one critic whose judgement means anything, the
    management of the nation's literary affairs falls naturally
    into the hands of accountants and press agents - i.e.,
    life-forms native to the 'deserts of materialism'."

    Lapham's comments appeared in a sort of faux letter written
    to a cousin who was aspiring to be a writer. I liked the
    quote because it describes the same sort of limitations
    facing Fidonet. I was roundly toasted in netmail for my
    "elitism" in suggesting that sysops should strive for
    greater standards of literacy or readability in their
    messages. It is almost unkind to mention that most of these
    criticisms appeared in messages replete with bad grammar,
    incomplete sentences, and levels of spelling which would
    have embarrassed a Grade 4 student. The point is well-taken,
    however, because what I have been advocating is obviously
    unachievable. What I had put down to lack of effort in those
    who write endless quoted messages which lack substance is
    really a basic lack of skill.  The correspondent who wrote
    to me: "Why shood(sic) I write all fancy? Go f*ck your
    self." was probably expressing a majority opinion. I confess
    that I have no satisfactory response to the former assertion
    because once I try to reconcile what I think is supposed to
    be communication with a steadfast resolve *not* to
    communicate by my critic(s) - I find no common ground upon
    which to carry on the debate. What seems blindingly
    self-evident to me, is obviously a mere triviality to a
    great many others. I stand corrected. My thesis is
    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 6                   20 Apr 1998


    accordingly amended to the statement that echomail
    conferences are wastelands of gibberish because that is
    exactly what sysops want them to be.

    On that cheery note, Visage, I'll end this. I trust that you
    are being well cared for by your secretary whom I mailed to
    you via parcel post. I would have kept her in the office but
    I needed the extra space to accommodate the satellite
    required to tune into Zorch's transmissions from his planet.

    Regards,
    Doc Logger
    Furlang Island,
    South Pacific

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                           COORDINATORS CORNER
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    Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 107
    By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
       ZC/2

     +--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
     !Zone/Jul!Ndl-079!Nodel.-086!Nodel.-093!Nodel.-100!Nodel.-107!%%!
     +--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
     !  1/107 !  5578 ! 5512  -66! 5512    0! 5446  -66! 5379  -67!25!
     !  2/107 ! 14219 !14215   -4!14130  -85!14085  -45!14056  -29!66!
     !  3/093 !   523 !  520   -3!  517   -3!  507  -10!  507    0! 2!
     !  4/107 !   401 !  400   -1!  398   -2!  398    0!  393   -5! 2!
     !  5/093 !    87 !   87    0!   86   -1!   86    0!   86    0! 0!
     !  6/100 !   934 !  934    0!  908  -26!  920   12!  922    2! 4!
     +--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
              ! 21742 !21668  -74!21551 -117!21442 -109!21343  -99!
              +-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

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                              WE GET EMAIL
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    Subject: Business-card
    Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 16:10:27 +0200
    From: DOSSCHE Ward <[email protected]>
    To: <[email protected]>

    Your Zorchness,

    Since you seem to doubt my position within the Belgacom-organisation,
    while at the same time demonstrating not to possess correct
    information, I am hereby for your re-assurance attaching my
    business-card.

    Take care,

    Ward Dossche
    Deputy-Director
    ---------------------------------------------
    BELGACOM nv/sa - HRL/SAE
    Emile Jacqmainlaan 177
    B-1030 Brussel
    Ph:             +32-(0)2-202.64.77
    Fx:             +32-(0)2-202.62.26
    Mobile: +32-(0)75-83.20.32

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                                ARTICLES
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    Sloppy Nodelist Maintenance
    by RanD, 1:141/1030

    Here are the duplicate phone numbers in Z2 for Nodelist 100.
    Sloppy maintenance of the nodelist should never be an excuse
    for a coordinator. If it doesn't fit FTN then it shouldn't exist.
    It's simply just a fatter nodelist for everyone. There are over 800
    in Zone 2 this week, actually 865 or closer to 900.

    [*EDITOR'S NOTE* This article was reformatted to fit ARTSPEC.DOC
     margin standards. Due to the length of changes, it was held over
     from last week's issue.]

    31-30-2433428   777  TIP-TOP Gateway Guus Abelmann  Utrecht
    31-30-2433428   101  The QUIET MAN BBS  Guus Abelmann  Utrecht
    31-75-6400418   999  R28 Inbound Gateway  Jan Vermeulen  Wormerveer
    31-75-6400418   100  The Poor Man's Workstation  Jan Vermeulen
                         Wormerveer
    31-75-6704045   801  Chat OS2BBS     Lody Caenen     Koog aan de Zaan
    31-75-6704045   902  Echo Server 3   Lody Caenen     Koog aan de Zaan
    32-2-3322417    1    RC29    Margy Durant    Brussels
    32-2-3322417    766  The Marginal BBS        Margy Durant    Brussels
    32-2-3322417    999  R29 Igate       Margy Durant    Brussels B
    32-2-4115871    1    NC291   Marc Hennico    Brussels
    32-2-4115871    780  Zico BBS        Marc Hennico    Brussels
    32-2-4613525    709  RTV-SAT BBS     Pierre-Claude Demanet  Wemmel
    32-2-4613525    29   R29 BackBone    Pierre-Claude Demanet  Wemmel B
    32-2-7366347    725  WOPR'S BBS      Marc Buffet     Brussels
    32-2-7366347    3    NPC291  Marc Buffet     Brussels
    32-2-7681041    9702 In Limbo-ISDN   Kris Carlier    Tervuren
    32-2-7681041    702  In Limbo-on-linux-wheels  Kris Carlier  Tervuren
    32-3-2531085    900  A-Team Support  Flor Wauters    Burcht
    32-3-2531085    2    REC29   Flor Wauters    Burcht
    32-3-6446312    3    NPC292  Berry Van Hombeeck      Schoten
    32-3-6446312    901  PoliceNet Belgium  Berry Van Hombeeck  Schoten
    32-3-6446312    3    RPC29   Berry Van Hombeeck      Schoten
    32-3-8447229    2    NEC292  Luc Sienaert    Boom
    32-3-8447229    865  Lucas Visions   Luc Sienaert    Boom
    32-3-8447229    1    NC292   Luc Sienaert    Boom
    32-51-227497    2    NEC291  Rik D'haveloose Rumbeke
    32-51-227497    1003 Fridahor        Rik D'haveloose Rumbeke
    32-71-314240    3    NPC293  Olivier Collard Montignies S Sambre
    32-71-314240    3219 STGsoft HQ BBS  Olivier Collard Montignies
                         S Sambre
    32-71-886065    3212 Europa BBS      Jacques Theys   Sombreffe
    32-71-886065    2    NEC293  Jacques Theys   Sombreffe

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    32-87-788411    1    NC293   Yves Hennico    Montzen
    32-87-788411    4005 The Milkshake Board     Yves Hennico    Montzen
    33-1-42555918   213  BuBulle System  Romain Lacroix  Paris
    33-1-42555918   109  The LazyCat Shelter     Romain Lacroix  Paris
    33-2-47293385   777  TipTop France   Derrick Neve    Tours France
    33-2-47293385   999  IGate   Derrick Neve    Tours France
    34-91-3782005   79   Emporium Digital  Carlos Fernandez Sanz  Madrid
    34-91-3782005   999  I Gate  Carlos Fernandez Sanz   Spain
    34-91-5702555   12   Corben  Enrique Lopez   Madrid
    34-91-5702555   777  TipTop Spain    Enrique Lopez   Madrid
    351-34-25922    7    CET     Fausto Carvalho Aveiro
    351-34-25922    999  R36 IGate       Fausto Carvalho Portugal
    352-292199      25   CTServe Francois Thunus Luxembourg
    352-292199      999  Luxembourg Gate Francois Thunus Luxembourg
    352-317240      32   Global Delivery (tmp)  Guilain Devillers
                         Bertrange
    352-317240      33   Global Delivery 2  Guilain Devillers  Bertrange
    353-1-6211360   150  Nemesis' Dungeon  Andrew Mowatt  Dublin
    353-1-6211360   999  R26 IGATE Ireland  Andrew Mowatt  Dublin Ireland
    356-240563      10   The Gossip-Column..     Joe Conti       Hamrun
    356-240563      999  Malta InGate    Joe Conti       ML
    358-2-2407755   222  BBBS Help       Kim Heino       Turku
    358-2-2407755   222  BCG-Box Kim Heino       Turku
    358-9-27940040  76   Augsburg        Samuli Suonpaa  Jarvenpaa
    358-9-27940040  77   Augsburg        Samuli Suonpaa  Jarvenpaa
    358-9-62190856  10   Region 22 Echogate  Pertti Heikkinen  Helsinki
    358-9-62190856  856  Regulus ignicapillus  Pertti Heikkinen  Helsinki
    359-2-462861    27   SF&F    Grigor Gatchev  Sofia
    359-2-462861    27   SF&F    Grigor Gatchev  Sofia
    359-2-9814100   12   Sofia Net Mail Server   Dimitar Ganchev Sofia
    359-2-9814100   1    CITcom  Dimitar Ganchev Sofia
    359-2-9814100   3    CITnet  Dimitar Ganchev Sofia
    359-670-22486   999  Region 35 In Gate   *PLACEHOLDER*   Bulgaria
    359-670-22486   200  Post Systems BBS I  Kiril Yovtchevsky  Troyan
    36-53-320-748   1    BBSzolnok       Erno Petro      Cegled HUN
    36-53-320-748   999  Region 37 Inbound-Gate  Erno Petro  Cegled HUN
    370-1-392925    999  R47 InboundGate  Svajunas Laukineitis  Lithuania
    370-1-392925    2    B.I.S.  Svajunas Laukineitis    Siauliai
    371-3941176     2    Info-Shelter    Harry Bush      Iecava
    371-3941176     999  R51 IGate       Harry Bush      Iecava Latvia
    372-6411729     20   Goodwin BBS     Sulo Kallas     Tallinn
    372-6411729     999  Region 49 IGate Sulo Kallas     Tallinn
    380-622-322128  50   R46 Inbound     Anton Kuznetsov Donetsk
    380-622-322128  999  R46 InGate      Anton Kuznetsov UA & MO
    381-11-503036   100  Flash!  Sinisa Burina   Beograd
    381-11-503036   200  TIM 90 BBS      Sinisa Burina   Beograd SRJ
    381-11-503036   150  TIM 90 BBS      Sinisa Burina   Beograd
    386-63-442524   3100 BASS BBS        Aleksander Bastl        Celje
    386-63-442524   3200 BASS Classic    Zlatko Kropf    Celje
    386-63-442524   3104 BASS UUCP       Zlatko Kropf    Celje
    39-2-89150967   313  Che morte orrenda BBS   Happy Betty     Milano
    39-2-89150967   1    INTL BackBone   Happy Betty     Milano
    39-331-772362   101  <[ AmnesiA ]>   Angelo Besani   Gallarate VA
    39-331-772362   2    Italian BackBone  Angelo Besani  Gallarate VA
    39-444-440290   211  FarWest BBS     Ivo Dal Bosco   Montebello VI
    39-444-440290   10   INTL Backbone 333  Ivo Dal Bosco  Montebello VI
    39-445-639001   206  Bosco Atro BBS  Pietro Lancerotto  Malo (VI)
    39-445-639001   20   Italian Backbone 333 Pietro Lancerotto  Malo(VI)
    39-471-934-792  406  Alpecho 3       Anton Auer      BZ

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    39-471-934-792  401  Alpecho Anton Auer      BZ
    39-51-6236527   423  Active Line 2 SDS-RC    Mario Battacchi Bologna
    39-51-6236527   1    INTL BackBone 332       Mario Battacchi Bologna
    39-51-6236527   999  Italy I/O Gate  Mario Battacchi Italy
    39-51-6331730   402  ARCI Computer Club/LoraBBS Support #1
                         Marco Maccaferri        Bologna
    39-51-6331730   99   KidLink Gate    Marcello Ardini Bologna
    39-51-6446860   418  ArchiMedia      Marcello Ardini Bologna
    39-51-6446860   200  Regional Echo Coordinator  Marcello Ardini Italy
    39-521-941845   801  Banana's        Nicola Lottici  Parma
    39-521-941845   831  Banana's II     Nicola Lottici  Parma
    39-586-815000   716  IRENE BBS [PeaceLink]  Marino Marinelli
                         Livorno I
    39-586-815000   701  Spotlink        Gianluca Pisano Livorno I
    39-59-246112    504  ApWorks Alberto Pasquale        Modena I
    39-59-246112    101  ITABB1  Alberto Pasquale        Modena I
    39-59-246112    2    Italian BackBone 332  Alberto Pasquale  Modena I

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 12                  20 Apr 1998

    39-6-39721568   90   INTL BackBone 335       Cesare Tensi    Roma
    39-6-39721568   336  Sierra  Cesare Tensi    Roma
    39-6-66152114   900  Multinet Gate   Francesco Cipriani      Italy
    39-6-66152114   381  NoWayOut        Francesco Cipriani      Roma
    39-80-5230045   727  A.C.T.A.I. IHQ  Giuseppe Semeraro       Bari
    39-80-5230045   80   Italian BackBone 335  Giuseppe Semeraro  Bari
    39-85-4455650   680  Eagle's Nest  Stefano Brandimarte
                         Montesilvano Spiaggia PE I
    39-85-4455650   800  R33 Uucp Gate   Stefano Brandimarte     Italy
    39-931-833773   505  agnese.fidoitalia.net   Mario Mure'     Italy
    39-931-833773   533  Speed Of Life   Mario Mure'     Avola SR
    41-21-8025017   315  Gnothi Seauton #1(ZyxEli)  Michel Roch
                         Preverenges
    41-21-8025017   316  Gnothi Seauton #2  Michel Roch  Preverenges
    41-31-7320044   159  LOGiC PALACE #3 & #4  Roland Zbinden
                         Schwarzenburg
    41-31-7320044   762  LOGiC PALACE #3 & #4  Roland Zbinden
                         Schwarzenburg
    41-31-7320051   124  LOGiC PALACE #1 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
    41-31-7320051   706  LOGiC PALACE #1 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
    41-31-7320052   127  LOGiC PALACE #2 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
    41-31-7320052   727  LOGiC PALACE #2 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
    41-61-3832234   254  Ghost-System#2  Daniel Rueegg   Basel
    41-61-3832234   255  Ghost-System#3  Daniel Rueegg   Basel
    41-71-2237326   412  HSCB-System     Franz Willi     St.Gallen
    41-71-2237326   428  HSCB-System     Franz Willi     St.Gallen
    41-71-7225188   999  Region 30 Gate  Urban Oettli    Switzerland
    41-71-7225188   103  Orion System    Urban Oettli    Widnau
    41-91-6001221   160  Thunder Box     Manuel Wenger   Manno
    41-91-6001221   120  Thunder Box 1   Manuel Wenger   Manno
    41-91-6900482   261  Loce (ISDN)     Michele Lucini  Vacallo
    41-91-6900482   231  Loce    Michele Lucini  Vacallo
    420-67-523247   450  OS/2 Home BBS   Igor Bilyi      Zlin
    420-67-523247   45   T-Mail support  Igor Bilyi      Zlin
    421-7-5228198   666  Devious Suzi    Frank Petro     Bratislava
    421-7-5228198   19   Suzi    Matus Kral      Bratislava
    43-1-2188118    20   Peter's ISDN-Box        Peter Reinold   Vienna A
    43-1-2188118    18   Peter's Box     Peter Reinold   Vienna A
    43-1-4020227    2929 Big Daddy's[ISDN]  Christian Jelinek  Vienna A
    43-1-4020227    29   Big Daddy's     Christian Jelinek       Vienna A
    43-1-4065416    445  Black*Box@Fido Wien  Thomas Subotitsch  Vienna A
    43-1-4065416    444  Black*Box Wien  Thomas Subotitsch       Vienna A
    43-1-8150628    144  Lichtnetz Wien  Andre Eichner   Vienna A
    43-1-8150628    1440 Lichtnetz ISDN V34      Andre Eichner   Wien 12
    43-2236-47018   37   Chaos Iuris Austria BBS #1  Philipp Krone
                         Moedling A
    43-2236-47018   999  R31 (Austria) I-Gate  Philipp Krone  Moedling A
    43-463-5093335  5    deus ex machina II  Guenter Popp  Klagenfurt A
    43-463-5093335  7    Wasserturm BBS  Andreas Miklautsch    Villach A
    43-5577-62120   10   Holly's BBS [V34]  Patric Hollenstein
                         Lustenau A
    43-5577-62120   1101 Holly's BBS [ISDN] Patric Hollenstein
                         Lustenau A
    44-1202-895327  62   Neurology BBS(2)  Mike Way  Bournemouth UK
    44-1202-895327  61   Neurology BBS(1)  Mike Way  Bournemouth UK
    44-1563-524197  87   007 James Bond1 George Garven   Kilmarnock
    44-1563-524197  87   007 James Bond1 George Garven   Kilmarnock
    44-1563-572897  86   007 James Bond2 George Garven   Kilmarnock
    44-1563-572897  86   007 James Bond2 George Garven   Kilmarnock

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    44-1563-572992  42   Dreamtime Sanctuary  Stewart Orr  Kilmarnock
    44-1563-572992  42   Dreamtime Sanctuary  Stewart Orr  Kilmarnock
    44-1698-305835  69   S.o.D BBS  Steven Winetrobe  Glasgow
    44-1698-305835  69   S.o.D BBS  Steven Winetrobe  Glasgow
    44-1745-354129  49   Coastmnl/UUCP Gateway  John Timmis  Prestatyn
    44-1745-354129  21   Coastline Communications 23:00-07:00
                         John Timmis   Prestatyn
    44-181-343-3419 153  Barney's Rubble  Jon Morby  London
    44-181-343-3419 25   R25 Fidonet/Demon Internet Gateway  postmaster
                         London UK
    44-181-686-2555 60   TRAK-ONE! [Mailer 1]   Dave Carter  Croydon
    44-181-686-2555 999  R25 I/OGate     Dave Carter     Croydon UK
    44-181-686-2555 10   REC25   Dave Carter     Croydon UK
    44-191-490-0327 18   Argus II        Graham Denman   Tyneside
    44-191-490-0327 17   Log-On-The-Tyne John Bone       Tyneside
    45-38161066     23   netcetera internet gate  Ask Bjoern Hansen
                         Copenhagen
    45-38161066     777  TipTop Gate DK  Ask Bjoern Hansen  Copenhagen
    45-38161066     10   Netcetera - internet node  Ask Bjoern Hansen
                         Copenhagen Denmark
    45-38161066     999  Region 23 Igate  Ask Bjoern Hansen   DK
    45-38337828     136  Abacus Mail and Data  Verner Jensen
                         Copenhagen NV Denmark
    45-38337828     135  Abacus Mail and Data  Verner Jensen
                         Copenhagen NV Denmark
    45-55461499     170  BABYLON BBS #2  Kenneth Joergensen  Fuglebjerg
    45-55461499     17   BABYLON BBS #1  Kenneth Joergensen  Fuglebjerg
    45-8710-0123    326  Vorup BBS line 3 of 3   Kim Bjoern  Randers
    45-8710-0123    226  Vorup BBS       Kim Bjoern      Randers DK
    45-8738-0241    223  Atlantis      Christian Laursen    Viby
    45-8738-0241    253  The Border Worlds  Christian Laursen     Viby
    46-270-427324   240  Eriksson's Bbs #2  Lars-Gunnar Eriksson  Mo
    46-270-427324   202  Eriksson's Bbs #4  Lars-Gunnar Eriksson  Mo
    46-31-7072810   179  boomer  Richard Lithvall        Goteborg
    46-31-7072810   178  boomer  Richard Lithvall        Goteborg
    46-8-55630103   329  Definite Solutions II   Mats Wallin   Stockholm
    46-8-55630103   999  R20     Mats Wallin     Sweden
    47-22053133     22   R21 Fidonet/Internet Gateway 2  Torfinn Nome
                         Oslo
    47-22053133     30   FIX     Torfinn Nome    Oslo NO
    47-67060007     20   BarCode Rune Johansen   Nittedal NO
    47-67060007     999  Norway InGate   Rune Johansen   N
    48-22-6286745   17   Seven [inet gate]       Lech Szychowski Warszawa
    48-22-6286745   48   R48 FidoNet<->InterNet Gateway [ZMH]
                         Lech Szychowski Warszawa PL
    48-22-8313212   700  R48 I/O Gateway [2200-0700]  Maciej Grzeszczuk
                         Warszawa PL
    48-22-8313212   70   R48 TCP/IP EchoMail HUB [2200-0700]
                         Maciej Grzeszczuk       Warszawa PL
    48-22-8339649   33   HoA/2   rafal wiosna    Warszawa
    48-22-8339649   999  R48 I/O Gateway [24h]  Rafal Wiosna  Warszawa PL
    48-22-8339649   777  R48 TipTop Gateway [24h] Rafal Wiosna
                         Warszawa PL
    48-32-2799602   106  Gate to MedicNet        Wojciech Apel   Gliwice
    48-32-2799602   3    PiK'us BBS      Wojciech Apel   Gliwice
    48-52-3400732   997  R48 PointList Keeper [2230-1000]
                         Lukasz Wasikowski       Bydgoszcz PL
    48-52-3400732   51   Rakis BBS [2230-1000]   Lukasz Wasikowski
                         Bydgoszcz PL
    48-71-3254857   18   AGS@home [2200-0600]  Aleksander Boron  Wroclaw

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    48-71-3254857   25   Dracula FidoNet Node    Tomasz Bryja    Wroclaw
    48-77-562575    88   RoMan at Home [ZMH Only]  Roman Mandziejewicz
                         Opole
    48-77-562575    911  acting Regional EchoMail Coordinator [ZMH only]
                         Roman Mandziejewicz     Opole PL
    49-201-2806856  222  *Gero's-Castle-1*  Gero Dirk Lachner  Germany
    49-201-2806856  223  *Gero's-Castle-2*  Gero Dirk Lachner  Germany
    49-201-306904   300  SECOND SYSTEM LINE 1+2  Rainer Boesner  Essen
    49-201-306904   30   UUCP Gateway Second System    Rainer Boesner
                         Essen
    49-201-8496014  335  Straylight ISDN Stephan Floether        Essen
    49-201-8496014  334  Straylight      Stephan Floether        Essen
    49-201-8535023  2011 USS-Eslapion ISDN       Peter Prenting  Essen
    49-201-8535023  2012 USS-Eslapion    Peter Prenting  Essen
    49-201-8718822  385  XEER SPACE CENTER V34  Markus Buschkuehl  Essen
    49-201-8718822  384  XEER SPACE CENTER ISDN  Markus Buschkuehl  Essen
    49-201-8915005  311  UNKNOWN BBS LINE 1      Ralf Friedrich  Essen
    49-201-8915005  33   UNKNOWN BBS LINE 2-3    Ralf Friedrich  Essen
    49-202-4087281  1111 IfS Wuppertal   Guido Lobermann Wuppertal
    49-202-4087281  2    NEC BGL-NET     Guido Lobermann Wuppertal
    49-2051-955001  1    NC BGL-Net      Michael Smetten Velbert
    49-2051-955001  1011 The OrganPipe BBS I     Michael Smetten Velbert
    49-208-990814   382  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 2 (28.8) Joerg Habig
                         Muelheim-Ruhr
    49-208-990814   383  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 3 (ISDN) Joerg Habig
                         Muelheim-Ruhr
    49-208-990823   380  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 1 (28.8) Andreas Habig
                         Muelheim-Ruhr
    49-208-990823   381  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 4 (ISDN) Andreas Habig
                         Muelheim-Ruhr
    49-209-9772188  319  Source 'n Render BBS 1  Frank Schroeder
                         Gelsenkirchen
    49-209-9772188  320  Source 'n Render BBS (ISDN)     Frank Schroeder
                         Gelsenkirchen
    49-211-410418   1246 LeeteBrok BBS II  Matthias Tichy  Duesseldorf
    49-211-410418   1245 LeeteBrok BBS   Matthias Tichy  Duesseldorf
    49-211-489444   1273 2-Stein-Data-Panik <ISDN> Peter Kressig
                         Duesseldorf
    49-211-489444   1271 2-Stein-Data-Panik <analog> Peter Kressig
                         Duesseldorf
    49-211-591344   1204 The Blues Project #4  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
    49-211-591344   1    NC 2433  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
    49-211-591344   906  R24 Backbone Ring-0   Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
    49-211-591344   1201 The Blues Project #1  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
    49-211-591355   1202 The Blues Project #2  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
    49-211-591355   1205 The Blues Project #5  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
    49-211-9233041  3    PLC 2433        Boris Huertgen  Duesseldorf
    49-211-9233041  1603 TK BBS #3 [ZYX/V34/X75] Boris Huertgen
                         Duesseldorf
    49-2131-769060  386  SKY BBS Line#2 *ISDN*   Erich Lorbert   Kaarst
    49-2131-769060  385  SKY BBS Erich Lorbert   Kaarst
    49-2137-13715   1616 Sunrise-BBS [v34/x75]   Michael Metz    Neuss
    49-2137-13715   1617 Sunrise-BBS [v34/x75]   Michael Metz    Neuss
    49-2151-938425  381  ODC/UDC feat. UDS Line2 Hans-Juergen Friedt
                         Krefeld
    49-2151-938425  380  ODC/UDC feat. UDS Line1 Hans-Juergen Friedt
                         Krefeld
    49-2151-945835  355  fo - (ringdown) frank obernbichler  uerdingen

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    49-2151-945835  2    temp NEC 2433   frank obernbichler  uerdingen
    49-2152-3014    711  -~AC/DC=- (X75) Andreas Croonenbroeck   Kempen
    49-2152-3014    710  -~AC/DC=- (V34) Andreas Croonenbroeck   Kempen
    49-2156-952830  920  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Wilfried Hausmann  Willich
    49-2156-952830  352  WING Line#1 *ISDN*      Heike Hausmann  Willich
    49-2162-356071  419  Jogi's Box Line#2 *ISDN*  Juergen Meier  Viersen
    49-2162-356071  418  Jogi's Box      Juergen Meier   Viersen
    49-2162-961179  439  Garant`s - Heaven Line #2 *ISDN*
                         Klaus Dieter Orlowski              Viersen
    49-2162-961179  438  Garant`s - Heaven  Klaus Dieter Orlowski
                         Viersen
    49-2162-979048  423  Nightline-BBS Line #1   Norbert Hommen  Viersen
    49-2162-979048  424  Nightline-BBS Line #2   Norbert Hommen  Viersen
    49-2171-714928  1450 XIFLEX OPLADEN PORT2  Torsten Jaehnigen
                         Leverkusen
    49-2171-714928  1451 XIFLEX OPLADEN PORT3  Torsten Jaehnigen
                         Leverkusen
    49-2203-962029  351  TRADER`S Banquet Line 2 Joerg Naumann   Koeln
    49-2203-962029  353  TRADER`S Banquet Line 4 Joerg Naumann   Koeln
    49-2203-962029  350  TRADER`S Banquet Line 1 Joerg Naumann   Koeln

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    49-2203-962144  41   Ulf's MINI-BBS  Ulf Borcherdt   Porz
    49-2203-962144  40   Ulf's MINI-BBS  Ulf Borcherdt   Porz
    49-221-9590902  562  EE-C&P Line-3   Elmar Elsner    Koeln
    49-221-9590902  561  EE-C&P Line-2   Elmar Elsner    Koeln
    49-2226-912645  2    EchoServer      Frank Zavelberg Bonn
    49-2226-912645  1011 Dolphin BBS Line 3+4 <33k6>  Frank Zavelberg
                         Rheinbach
    49-2232-211641  631  TopSpeed BBS ISDN       frank oebels    Bruehl
    49-2232-211641  630  TopSpeed BBS 28k8       frank oebels    Bruehl
    49-2246-912629  1    NC Rhein/Sieg Net  Norbert Muskatewitz  Lohmar
    49-2246-912629  600  NMI-Networker's Magic Island
                         Norbert Muskatewitz     Lohmar
    49-228-420114   775  Antarctica Line 2 iSDN  Jan Brunnert    Bonn
    49-228-420114   774  Antarctica Line 1 28k8  Jan Brunnert    Bonn
    49-228-432678   1028 Black Box Line3 <ISDN>  Andreas Simon   Bonn
    49-228-432678   1026 Black Box Line1 <V34>   Andreas Simon   Bonn
    49-228-7669912  753  TEAM TERMINATE GERMANY ISDN Andreas Streit  Bonn
    49-228-7669912  751  TEAM TERMINATE GERMANY 2  Andreas Streit  Bonn
    49-228-9767923  1111 ARKON BBS LINE2 ISDN    Volker Klumski  Bonn
    49-228-9767923  1110 ARKON BBS LINE1 V34     Volker Klumski  Bonn
    49-2309-409916  1    Elected NC-2448 Tobias Burchhardt       Waltrop
    49-2309-409916  400  WayForward BBS V34/ISDN * FastEcho HQ
                         Tobias Burchhardt       Waltrop
    49-231-332192   1166 Fawlty Towers   Michael Gierse  Dortmund
    49-231-332192   2    NEC 2444        Michael Gierse  Dortmund
    49-231-523413   1101 Painkiller BBS Line1    Michael Stuewe  Dortmund
    49-231-523413   1    NC 2444 Michael Stuewe  Dortmund

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    49-231-523413   1145 Painkiller BBS backup   Michael Stuewe  Dortmund
    49-231-7246108  1401 BitMail Ralf Figge      Dortmund
    49-231-7246108  3    PLK2444 Ralf Figge      Dortmund
    49-231-9802041  1013 STARGATE BBS 4 ISDN     Udo Wilke       Dortmund
    49-231-9802041  1011 STARGATE BBS 2 V34+     Udo Wilke       Dortmund
    49-231-9822122  1007 das offene ohr  Johann H. Addicks       Dortmund
    49-231-9822122  98   UUCP    Johann H. Addicks       ftg.donut.de
    49-2324-23746   3033 Connection-BBS Line 3   Holger Birck   Hattingen
    49-2324-23746   3    PLK BGL-Net     Holger Birck    Hattingen
    49-2331-27403   5120 MEMOS BBS       Mehmet Atam     Hagen
    49-2331-27403   5215 MEMOS BBS       Mehmet Atam     Hagen
    49-234-382201   1635 Chaoslabs ISDN  Sascha Reetz    Bochum
    49-234-382201   1636 Chaoslabs Analog        Sascha Reetz    Bochum
    49-2361-66151   409  KAPA's Kramkiste II  Klaus Panzlaff
                         Recklinghausen
    49-2361-66151   410  KAPA's Kramkiste III  Klaus Panzlaff
                         Recklinghausen
    49-2365-395016  7000 Virtual Spot    Arndt Schroeder Marl
    49-2365-395016  7001 Virtual SPOT analog     Arndt Schroeder Marl
    49-2372-3327    2    NEC NET-2442    Klaus Jenrich   Hemer
    49-2372-3327    4016 Seals On The Sandbank   Klaus Jenrich   Hemer
    49-2378-910061  1    NC NET-2442     Lars Kieffer    Menden
    49-2378-910061  4004 SPACE-Bar       Lars Kieffer    Menden
    49-2404-969167  212  InnComm 2 V34   Roland Genzmer  Alsdorf
    49-2404-969167  213  InnComm 3 V34   Sascha Mueller  Alsdorf
    49-2404-969368  215  InnComm 5 ZYX   Sascha Mueller  Alsdorf
    49-2404-969368  216  InnComm 6 ISDN  Sascha Mueller  Alsdorf
    49-2404-969368  214  InnComm 4 ZYX   Peter Esser     Alsdorf
    49-241-86216    248  Scout Base 9 ISDN       Joerg Lipovcek  Aachen
    49-241-86216    249  Scout Base 9    Joerg Lipovcek  Aachen
    49-2432-908051  666  Infothek-Gerderath ISDN Peter Liebchen  Erkelenz
    49-2432-908051  601  Infothek-Gerderath      Peter Liebchen  Erkelenz
    49-2433-958003  603  AK 9 LINE II    Gerd Allwicher  Hueckelhoven
    49-2433-958003  602  AK 9 LINE I     Gerd Allwicher  Hueckelhoven
    49-2433-958027  624  AK 4 ISDN       Norbert Vetter  Hueckelhoven
    49-2433-958027  604  AK 4    Norbert Vetter  Hueckelhoven
    49-2434-928002  612  MiniBox ISDN-Line  Christian Behrendt  Wegberg
    49-2434-928002  611  MiniBox ZyX-Line  Christian Behrendt  Wegberg
    49-2461-345450  628  StarPoint Station       Mathias Bachner Juelich
    49-2461-345450  627  StarPoint Station       Dirk Paulsen    Juelich
    49-2601-912224  215  WESTERN FOREST  Bernd Wirz      WIRSCHEID/Ww
    49-2601-912224  15   WESTERN FOREST  Bernd Wirz      Wirscheid/Ww
    49-261-3002997  133  Blubber-Digitales       Rene Bredlau    Koblenz
    49-261-3002997  116  BLUBBER-Box     Rene Bredlau    Koblenz
    49-261-36439    137  GERMAN-CORNER-BBS ISDN  Heribert Grohs  Koblenz
    49-261-36439    136  GERMAN-CORNER-BBS       Heribert Grohs  Koblenz
    49-261-801231   127  HEAVENS PARADISE ISDN   Jens Finkemeyer Koblenz

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    49-261-801231   126  HEAVENS PARADISE        Jens Finkemeyer Koblenz
    49-261-9114315  1    NC Mittelrhein-Netz     George Bruziks  Koblenz
    49-261-9114315  91   Schach-Cafe     George Bruziks  Koblenz
    49-261-9730671  165  Stony's Home II Stefan Stoner   Koblenz
    49-261-9730671  164  Stony's Home    Stefan Stoner   Koblenz
    49-2623-951013  210  Unikum-ISDN     Manfred Jackel  Siershahn
    49-2623-951013  201  Unikum BBS      Manfred Jackel  Siershahn
    49-2624-945065  35   WesterWald-Box  Dietmar Uhr   Hoehr Grenzhausen
    49-2624-945065  235  WesterWald-Box ISDN     Dietmar Uhr
                         Hoehr Grenzhausen
    49-2627-974542  122  Elle's Fischteich II (ISDN)    Markus Ellebrecht
                         Braubach
    49-2627-974542  118  Elle's Fischteich I  Markus Ellebrecht  Braubach
    49-2632-43428   501  Cyberspace Cafe II  Daniel Schlenzig  Andernach
    49-2632-43428   500  Cyberspace Cafe  Daniel Schlenzig  Andernach
    49-2632-949112  519  Digital Chaos   Judit Schlenzig Andernach
    49-2632-949112  520  The Chaos Production  Judit Schlenzig  Andernach
    49-2632-949119  571  Mautschi's Digital Drawbridge  Andreas Mautsch
                         Andernach
    49-2632-949119  524  Mautschi's Castle     Andreas Mautsch Andernach
    49-2632-953272  666  SPS-BOX Daniel Schilling     Andernach
    49-2632-953272  667  SPS-BOX ISDN    Daniel Schilling     Andernach
    49-2641-21135   302  AIRBASE #3  Michael Krischok  Bad Neuenahr
    49-2641-21135   301  AIRBASE #2 [ISDN] Michael Krischok  Bad Neuenahr
    49-2651-947061  506  Vulkan Box II   Michael Prause  Mayen
    49-2651-947061  505  Vulkan Box      Michael Prause  Mayen
    49-2652-938016  586  AFuBox Kruft ISDN  Hans-Juergen Barthen    Kruft
    49-2652-938016  585  AFuBox Kruft    Hans-Juergen Barthen    Kruft
    49-271-3359141  351  Micky's Box II ISDN (Diehl)     Michael Trautes
                         Siegen
    49-271-3359141  353  Micky's Box IV 28.8k (USR)      Michael Trautes
                         Siegen
    49-271-74780    350  Micky's Box I   Michael Trautes Siegen
    49-271-74780    3    PLC 2457        Michael Trautes Siegen
    49-2751-928022  1    NC 2457 Peter Kluge     Bad Berleburg
    49-2751-928022  110  backwoods       Peter Kluge     Bad Berleburg
    49-2752-478204  131  WIN MailMachine ISDN    Jost Henrich
                         Bad Laasphe
    49-2752-478204  130  WIN MailMachine Jost Henrich    Bad Laasphe
    49-2753-598011  107  EMS-Box III (ISDN) Hans Otte   Erndtebrueck
    49-2753-598011  106  EMS-Box  II (ZYX)  Hans Otte   Erndtebrueck
    49-2753-598283  116  shooting gallery ISDN   Wilhelm Marburger
                         Erndtebrueck
    49-2753-598283  115  shooting gallery   Wilhelm Marburger
                         Erndtebrueck
    49-2754-1082    121  Smurf-Box ISDN  Edgar Kuhly     Feudingen
    49-2754-1082    120  Smurf-Box       Edgar Kuhly     Feudingen
    49-281-3372301  1    NC Nieder(st)rhein-NET  Manfred Schramm Wesel
    49-281-3372301  501  Weseler Info Service    Manfred Schramm Wesel
    49-2841-97339   121  FALKE ISDN      Manfred Fahrig  47445 Moers
    49-2841-97339   120  FALKE   Manfred Fahrig  47445 Moers
    49-30-25299841  248  SPACEpoint BBS  Tim Mecking     Berlin
    49-30-25299841  247  SPACEpoint BBS  Tim Mecking     Berlin
    49-30-28598717  645  ULTRA - II Line #006    Bernd Schade    Berlin

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    49-30-28598717  644  ULTRA - II Line #005    Bernd Schade    Berlin
    49-30-30099794  1024 Darkness BBS ISDN       Nikolai Cieslak Berlin
    49-30-30099794  1023 Darkness BBS #2 (22-5h) Nikolai Cieslak Berlin
    49-30-34702931  501  PsC ISDN        Frank Schmidt   Berlin
    49-30-34702931  502  PsC     Frank Schmidt   Berlin
    49-30-41777132  413  noman's land    Dennis Alexis Valin Dittrich
                         Berlin
    49-30-41777132  2    NEC     Dennis Alexis Valin Dittrich
                         Brandenburg-Netz
    49-30-78702844  282  BCSS BBS II (Mo&Do)     Boris Arndt     Berlin
    49-30-78702844  232  BCSS BBS  I (Di Mi Fr Sa So)    Boris Arndt
                         Berlin
    49-30-94113283  1    NC      Uwe Uhlemann    Brandenburg-Netz
    49-30-94113283  532  ORKUS   Uwe Uhlemann    Berlin
    49-33235-20023  1    NC      Frank Neubauer  Friesack
    49-33235-20023  709  Havelland II    Frank Neubauer  Friesack
    49-33235-20023  708  Havelland I     Frank Neubauer  Friesack
    49-33433-785    931  DriveIn BBS #2  Mario Boerner   Waldsieversdorf
    49-33433-785    930  DriveIn BBS #1  Mario Boerner   Waldsieversdorf
    49-335-504706   3    PLK     Steffen Blum    Brandenburg-Netz
    49-335-504706   901  Bummi-Box       Steffen Blum    Frankfurt/Oder
    49-335-504706   910  Bummi-Box       Steffen Blum    Frankfurt/Oder
    49-3379-379244  903  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Karsten Ebeling Berlin
    49-3379-379244  299  /nul/dev isdn AVM B1    Karsten Ebeling Mahlow
    49-341-2515394  501  NightFox BBS 28.8       gerd troeger    Leipzig
    49-341-2515394  3    PLC 249 Gerd Troeger    Leipzig
    49-341-2530392  502  NightFox BBS 14.4       gerd troeger    Leipzig
    49-341-2530392  1    NC 249  Gerd Troeger    Leipzig
    49-341-6884837  1171 Reudnitzer BBS ISDN     Torsten Schulz  Leipzig
    49-341-6884837  1170 Reudnitzer BBS  Torsten Schulz  Leipzig
    49-34956-21024  1131 Zoerbiger Mailbox ISDN  Michael Fiedler Zoerbig
    49-34956-21024  1130 Zoerbiger Mailbox       Michael Fiedler Zoerbig
    49-35324-38445  7031 Ring-Box        Dirk Richter    Crinitz
    49-35324-38445  7030 Ring-Box        Dirk Richter    Crinitz
    49-361-7467147  1040 Highnuu BBS 1   Andreas Koschel Erfurt
    49-361-7467147  1041 Highnuu BBS 2   Andreas Koschel Erfurt
    49-365-7106038  4132 IRATA #3 ISDN   Michael Pilz    GERA
    49-365-7106038  4130 IRATA #1        Michael Pilz    GERA
    49-3677-203085  1    NC 248  Marcel Becker   Ilmenau
    49-3677-203085  4004 TTB     Marcel Becker   Ilmenau
    49-3677-790861  6302 Elgersburg BBS 1+2  Erik Sturm   Elgersburg
    49-3677-790861  6301 Elgersburg BBS 1+2  Erik Sturm   Elgersburg
    49-371-5380010  410  SPECIAL-Box     Jens Hofbauer   Chemnitz
    49-371-5380010  5080 SPECIAL-Box I   Jens Hofbauer   Chemnitz
    49-3744-24296   5141 Auerbach/Vogtland 2  Joachim Mueller
                         Auerbach/Vogtland
    49-3744-24296   5140 Auerbach/Vogtland 1  Joachim Mueller
                         Auerbach/Vogtland
    49-381-6865817  9207 HANSE   Michael Behrens Rostock
    49-381-6865817  9206 HANSE   Michael Behrens Rostock
    49-40-22715794  5449 Starbase 69 ISDN        Sven Ohlsen     Hamburg
    49-40-22715794  5448 Starbase 69     Sven Ohlsen     Hamburg
    49-40-22741192  5889 TIRO    Hinrich Donner  Hamburg
    49-40-22741192  77   WiPoST-Gate     Hinrich Donner  Hamburg
    49-40-35710946  5412 FlashLand I     Frank Siedlaczek        Hamburg
    49-40-35710946  5413 FlashLand II ISDN  Frank Siedlaczek  Hamburg
    49-40-73670077  5110 BrainPain System#1 ISDN Andreas Pruessmann
                         Hamburg

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    49-40-73670077  5111 BrainPain System#2 V34  Andreas Pruessmann
                         Hamburg
    49-40-78070441  901  Rookie BBS      Mirko Ruetz     Hamburg
    49-40-78070441  5703 Rookie BBS 3    Mirko Ruetz     Hamburg
    49-4101-553132  5218 Deepcore/2 #3 ISDN   Joerg Dreffein  Pinneberg
    49-4101-553132  5217 Deepcore/2 #2   Joerg Dreffein  Pinneberg
    49-4102-30780   4148 Petra #4        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
    49-4102-30780   4146 Petra #2        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
    49-4102-821265  4147 Petra #3        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
    49-4102-821265  4145 Petra #1        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
    49-421-1654391  3261 Heidi's Radio BBS       Frank Heider    Bremen
    49-421-1654391  3260 Heidi's Radio BBS       Frank Heider    Bremen
    49-421-373835   3195 ISD b r e m     Werner Willker  Bremen
    49-421-373835   3190 Starwire WWT    Werner Willker  Bremen
    49-421-3961866  230  Speakers Corner (ISDN)  Jens Wefer      HB
    49-421-3961866  231  Speakers Corner Jens Wefer      HB
    49-421-425193   3121 BMS ISDN        Gerold Diers    Bremen

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    49-421-425193   3120 BMS     Gerold Diers    Bremen
    49-421-4329812  3220 Ground Zero     Andre Barthels  Bremen
    49-421-4329812  3221 Ground Zero     Andre Barthels  Bremen
    49-421-6918193  3096 FLATLINE        Stefan Rueckwald        Bremen
    49-421-6918193  3095 FLATLINE        Stefan Rueckwald        Bremen
    49-4221-978045  3106 Maus HB ISDN    Holger Wulfers  Delmenhorst
    49-4221-978045  3105 Maus HB Holger Wulfers  Delmenhorst
    49-431-3292929  2189 Kruemel Boks! ISDN  Christian von Busse
                         Altenholz
    49-431-3292929  2188 Kruemel Boks!  Christian von Busse  Altenholz
    49-431-35881    1007 apropOS/2 #2    Andreas Harm Thordsen   Kiel
    49-431-35881    904  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Andreas Harm Thordsen  Kiel
    49-431-7209361  2119 BLIZZARD II     Michael Rittweger       Kiel
    49-431-7209361  2120 BLIZZARD I      Michael Rittweger       Kiel
    49-4349-919968  2125 BBZ Service Box ISDN    Thorsten Boente
                         Daenischenhagen
    49-4349-919968  2126 BBZ Service Box Thorsten Boente
                         Daenischenhagen
    49-4351-712318  2127 TLC 1 [X.75]    Joerg Doering   Eckernfoerde
    49-4351-712318  2128 TLC 2 [ZYX]     Joerg Doering   Eckernfoerde
    49-4401-938801  6032 WESER BBS       Claus Plachetka Brake
    49-4401-938801  6030 WESER BBS       Claus Plachetka Brake
    49-4403-64490   3    PLK 2426        Axel Merkel     Bad Zwischenahn
    49-4403-64490   2050 Dagobah System  Axel Merkel     Bad Zwischenahn
    49-441-591798   2060 Wiesel  Klaas Hamboerger        Oldenburg
    49-441-591798   2061 Wiesel ISDN     Klaas Hamboerger    Oldenburg
    49-441-9350731  2271 OL-MEDIC BBS    Cord Moeller    Oldenburg
    49-441-9350731  2270 OL-MEDIC BBS    Cord Moeller    Oldenburg
    49-441-9558844  2111 CONNECTION Funk Port  Uwe Spiekermann  Oldenburg
    49-441-9558844  2110 CONNECTION Funk Port  Uwe Spiekermann  Oldenburg
    49-441-9570436  2161 Qumran Cave 2   Andreas Rehberg Oldenburg
    49-441-9570436  99   Mailserver Weser Ems  Andreas Rehberg  Oldenburg
    49-441-9570436  2160 Qumran Cave 1   Andreas Rehberg Oldenburg
    49-441-9571912  2125 ABIS    Andreas Braukmann       Oldenburg
    49-441-9571912  98   Network2426-Internet-Gateway  Andreas Braukmann           Oldenburg
    49-441-9736289  2240 Anti-Virus-News Thomas Moenkemeier   Oldenburg
    49-441-9736289  2244 Anti-Virus-News Thomas Moenkemeier    Oldenburg
    49-461-310843   1019 Black Data Factory BBS  Elmar Forberger
                         Flensburg
    49-461-310843   1018 Black Data Factory BBS  Elmar Forberger
                         Flensburg
    49-4733-920152  5051 Brummbaer-BBS-II   Sven Ellmers    Butjadingen
    49-4733-920152  5052 Brummbaer-BBS-III  Sven Ellmers    Butjadingen
    49-4773-891072  206  Tmm (ISDN)      Marc Albrecht   Lamstedt
    49-4773-891072  205  Tmm     Marc Albrecht   Lamstedt
    49-4855-10104   3001 CERES #2 ISDN   Egbert Antoine  Brunsbuettel
    49-4855-10104   3002 CERES   Egbert Antoine  Brunsbuettel
    49-4961-208-0   4003 Crystal Palace ISDN  Uwe Boettjer   Papenburg
    49-4961-208-0   4001 Crystal Palace  Uwe Boettjer    Papenburg
    49-4961-5645    1    NC 2426 Heinz-Bernd Albers      Papenburg
    49-4961-5645    4015 HB [00:00-06:00]   Heinz-Bernd Albers  Papenburg
    49-4971-912005  5091 KEOK BBS Line II        Hayen Iggena    Esens
    49-4971-912005  5092 KEOK BBS Line III       Hayen Iggena    Esens
    49-511-429023   33   mediX I Viktor Kafke    Hannover
    49-511-429023   80   MedNetGate      Viktor Kafke    Hannover
    49-511-429023   1    Temp NC Viktor Kafke    Hannover
    49-511-6063018  1001 N.C.P. 2-3      peter rohde     Hannover
    49-511-6063018  912  R24 Backbone Ring-0     peter rohde     Hannover
    49-511-713986   2    REC Germany     Andreas Berge   GER

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    49-511-713986   40   Aigyptos BBS    Andreas Berge   Hannover
    49-5201-665301  821  -= T.I.S =- Line II [ISDN]    Thomas Hermbecker           Halle Westfalen
    49-5201-665301  820  -= T.I.S =- Line I [USR V34]  Thomas Hermbecker           Halle Westfalen
    49-5222-282833  2    NEC 2432        Andreas Capito  Bad Salzuflen
    49-5222-282833  715  Silver Cloud BBS   Andreas Capito  Bad Salzuflen
    49-5232-987023  770  OWL-United M2-BBS Line 1 <ISDN> Ulrich Moennekes            Lage
    49-5232-987023  771  OWL-United M2-BBS Line 2 <28.8> Ulrich Moennekes            Lage
    49-5232-990831  1    NC 2432 Klaus Koeppen   Detmold
    49-5232-990831  705  Octopus I       Klaus Koeppen   Detmold
    49-5265-99026   776  OWL-United Landscape >ISDN<  Gerald Kirschke
                         Doerentrup
    49-5265-99026   777  OWL-United Landscape >19z2<  Gerald Kirschke
                         Doerentrup
    49-531-329002   577  8bbs    Marius Baller   Braunschweig
    49-531-329002   575  8bbs    Marius Baller   Braunschweig
    49-541-27578    150  Life of Brain #1-#3  Norbert Doetsch  Osnabrueck
    49-541-27578    1    NC      Norbert Doetsch Osnabrueck
    49-5524-931360  224  Travelbit       Andreas Weiss   Bad Lauterberg
    49-5524-931360  226  Travelbit ISDN  Andreas Weiss   Bad Lauterberg
    49-5624-925371  706  Fantasy Factory Jochen Vieh     Bad Emstal
    49-5624-925371  716  Fantasy Factory Jochen Vieh     Bad Emstal
    49-571-5085011  243  PORTA BBS ISDN (s0)     Sven Dueker
                         Porta Westfalica
    49-571-5085011  905  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Sven Dueker
                         Porta Westfalica
    49-5731-3325    216  Ellermann's BBS II  Carsten Ellermann
                         Bad Oeynhausen
    49-5731-3325    3    PLK 2432  Carsten Ellermann  Bad Oeynhausen
    49-581-9488825  6220 THE ZOO #2 ISDN Achim Sturm     Uelzen
    49-581-9488825  6222 THE ZOO #4 ANALOG       Achim Sturm     Uelzen
    49-5882-9301    9310 USER'S INN BBS I        Matthias Schulz Gorleben
    49-5882-9301    9311 USER'S INN BBS II       Matthias Schulz Gorleben
    49-6023-970833  6322 SFCD-Mitte (ISDN)       Martin Kempf    Alzenau
    49-6023-970833  6311 SFCD-Box Mitte  Martin Kempf    Alzenau
    49-6032-971085  365  Erster Connect BN II  Marcus Schneider
                         Bad Nauheim
    49-6032-971085  355  Erster Connect BN       Marcus Schneider
                         Bad Nauheim
    49-6105-921005  580  DIDDI'S DEN FFM 1       Joachim Sonnabend
                         Moerfelden-Walldorf
    49-6105-921005  581  DIDDI'S DEN FFM 2       Joachim Sonnabend
                         Moerfelden-Walldorf
    49-611-9721113  2136 NeuroNet BBS Line 2   Manfred Kucera  Wiesbaden
    49-611-9721113  2135 NeuroNet BBS Line 1   Manfred Kucera  Wiesbaden
    49-6131-477885  222  PRECiSION BBS (ISDN)   Florian Caspar  Mainz
    49-6131-477885  223  PRECiSION BBS   Florian Caspar  Mainz
    49-6131-891044  5585 Michael's Datenschleuder   Michael Piroth  Mainz
    49-6131-891044  5546 Michael's Datenschleuder  Michael Piroth  Mainz
    49-6131-941520  112  The .45er InfoSystems BBR  Henry Heller    Mainz
    49-6131-941520  910  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Henry Heller    Mainz
    49-6131-941520  113  The .45er (ISDN)  Henry Heller    Mainz
    49-6131-968108  150  Bedrock City (ISDN)   Olaf Kossok   Mainz
    49-6131-968108  139  Bedrock City (ZyXEL)  Olaf Kossok   Mainz
    49-6150-189831  152  AC Online System III  Michael Ott   Weiterstadt
    49-6150-189831  150  AC Online System I   Michael Ott   Weiterstadt
    49-6150-189832  153  AC Online System IV  Michael Ott   Weiterstadt
    49-6150-189832  151  AC Online System II  Alexander Wuttke
                         Weiterstadt
    49-6150-990033  561  Mike's Box ISDN Michael Reichartz   Erzhausen

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    49-6150-990033  560  Mike's Box Zyxel  Michael Reichartz  Erzhausen
    49-6150-990257  510  UFOS/2 BBS Line 1  Uwe Friedrich  Darmstadt
    49-6150-990257  512  UFOS/2 BBS Line 3  Uwe Friedrich  Darmstadt
    49-6151-788333  32   Infobox Darmstadt  Matthias Heilmann  Darmstadt
    49-6151-788333  320  Infobox Darmstadt  Matthias Heilmann  Darmstadt
    49-6172-983073  357  FRITBOX 1       Soenke Dirksen  Bad Homburg
    49-6172-983073  358  FRITBOX 2       Soenke Dirksen  Bad Homburg
    49-6181-441485  6254 STARLINE-BOX I  Jose Henriques  Maintal
    49-6181-441485  6255 STARLINE-BOX II Jose Henriques  Maintal
    49-6233-366088  9925 TIMEBOX ISDN  Manfred Ohlinger  Frankenthal
    49-6233-366088  9918 TIMEBOX Manfred Ohlinger        Frankenthal
    49-6235-959076  9909 JJ's Inn [1+2]  Joachim Joa     Schifferstadt
    49-6235-959076  9    JJ's Inn FBB    Joachim Joa     Schifferstadt
    49-6235-98431   9911 Lemmis System 1 Matthias Lamm   Schifferstadt
    49-6235-98431   1    NC Rhein-Neckar Connection  Matthias Lamm
                         Germany
    49-6257-962611  1000 Steigerts   Harald Hertlein  Seeheim-Jugenheim
    49-6257-962611  999  Steigerts   Harald Hertlein  Seeheim-Jugenheim
    49-6258-972140  46   ADLATUS Line 3  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
    49-6258-972140  44   ADLATUS Line 1  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
    49-6258-972141  43   ADLATUS Line 4  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
    49-6258-972141  45   ADLATUS Line 2  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
    49-6297-95035   417  Willys Mail     Willy Klotz     Ravenstein
    49-6297-95035   418  Willys Mail     Willy Klotz     Ravenstein
    49-6403-4871    121  Black Gate BBS[ISDN]    Joerg Rieger    Linden
    49-6403-4871    120  Black Gate BBS[ELSA]    Joerg Rieger    Linden
    49-6403-92327   99   I/O Gate Germany Mitte  Andreas Soehnel
                         Huettenberg
    49-6403-92327   888  T-GATE  Andreas Soehnel  Huettenberg
    49-6403-92327   908  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Andreas Soehnel
                         Huettenberg
    49-6403-92327   5    FORMICA-BBS #1 [X2 HOST]  Andreas Soehnel
                         Huettenberg
    49-6403-96187   116  Carstens Datenkiste III [Teles S0]
                         Carsten Ruckelshausen   Pohlheim
    49-6403-96187   115  Carstens Datenkiste II  Carsten Ruckelshausen
                         Pohlheim
    49-641-48998    124  Chaos Box ISDN  Manfred Orth    Pohlheim
    49-641-48998    123  Chaos Box       Manfred Orth    Pohlheim
    49-641-960229   131  Wuppi Box[TELES]        Jens Fudickar   Giessen
    49-641-960229   130  Wuppi-Box       Jens Fudickar   Giessen
    49-641-9709938  128  WOTEC[TELES]    Wolfram Schober Giessen
    49-641-9709938  108  SubHub Heilenz  Wolfram Schober Giessen
    49-641-9709938  127  WOTEC[USR]      Wolfram Schober Giessen
    49-6421-94039   636  Die Kleine Box 2  Ulrich Butterweck  Marburg
    49-6421-94039   637  Die Kleine Box 3  Ulrich Butterweck  Marburg
    49-6429-92029   600  MENNEs Box      Manfred Weber   Stadtallendorf
    49-6429-92029   1    NC 2435 Manfred Weber   Stadtallendorf
    49-6435-92056   211  stOne's BBS ISDN  Ralf Steinbrink
                         56414 Herschbach/oWW
    49-6435-92056   212  stOne's BBS  Ralf Steinbrink
                         56414 Herschbach/oWW
    49-6449-92066   411  Wolfmania Line 2[ISDN]  Wolfgang Blecker
                         Greifenthal
    49-6449-92066   412  Wolfmania Line 3[USR Courier I] Wolfgang Blecker
                         Greifenthal
    49-6449-921016  999  Mail-Server 2435  Wolfgang Blecker  Greifenthal
    49-6449-921016  413  Wolfmania Line 4+5[ISDN]    Wolfgang Blecker
                         Greifenthal

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    49-6695-7215    2    NEC 2435        Karsten Kalweit Jesberg
    49-6695-7215    615  Raveland 1      Karsten Kalweit Jesberg
    49-671-74048    422  The SHOGGOTH (ISDN) Marco Keuthen  Bad Kreuznach
    49-671-74048    1    NC  Marco Keuthen   Bad Kreuznach
    49-671-74048    420  The SHOGGOTH (ELSA VFC) Marco Keuthen
                         Bad Kreuznach
    49-671-8961192  421  The SHOGGOTH (ISDN)  Marco Keuthen
                         Bad Kreuznach
    49-671-8961192  426  The SHOGGOTH (ZYXEL) Marco Keuthen
                         Bad Kreuznach
    49-6841-12767   1    NC NET 245      Werner Cappel   Homburg
    49-6841-12767   2    NEC NET 245     Werner Cappel   Homburg
    49-6841-12767   6801 FIBBS II        Werner Cappel   Homburg Saar
    49-69-4930830   1    NC 2461 Robert Dahlem   Frankfurt
    49-69-4930830   332  Radio Bornheim  Robert Dahlem   Frankfurt
    49-69-94506210  316  LUMMERLAND #2 ISDN   Stefan Schlamp  Frankfurt
    49-69-94506210  315  LUMMERLAND #1 V34    Stefan Schlamp  Frankfurt
    49-69-98340540  1120 AMBROSIA        Ulrich Schroeter     Offenbach
    49-69-98340540  3    PLC 2:244       Ulrich Schroeter     Offenbach
    49-69-98340540  1    Temp-NC 2:244   Ulrich Schroeter     Offenbach

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    49-7021-978891  3031 Protest-BBS II  Reimar Krauss   Notzingen
    49-7021-978891  3032 Protest-BBS III Reimar Krauss   Notzingen
    49-7031-221736  6012 HighEnd BBS     Thomas Berres   Boeblingen
    49-7031-221736  515  HighEnd BBS     Thomas Berres   Boeblingen
    49-7031-287353  1008 Programmers Corner BB  Andreas Neukoetter
                         Boeblingen
    49-7031-287353  1802 Programmers Corner BB  Andreas Neukoetter
                         Boeblingen
    49-7031-720512  1819 Salmanassar ISDN  Carsten Ellwart  Boeblingen
    49-7031-720512  1809 Salmanassar     Carsten Ellwart Boeblingen
    49-7031-730536  2401 Minibox Manfred Tessarrek       Sindelfingen
    49-7031-730536  2417 Minibox Manfred Tessarrek       Sindelfingen
    49-7033-544915  1820 Quattro ISDN    Jens Kretzschmar    Grafenau
    49-7033-544915  1801 Quattro Jens Kretzschmar        Grafenau
    49-7042-80100-21  6585  Foto-Box   Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
    49-7042-80100-21  585   Foto-Box    Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
    49-7042-80100-41  6586  Foto-Box ISDN [AVM]  Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
    49-7042-80100-41  586   Foto-Box ISDN [AVM]  Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
    49-7042-940905  510  USER'S INN      Guenther Kreuz  Muehlacker
    49-7042-940905  6510 USER'S INN      Guenther Kreuz  Muehlacker
    49-7042-940906  511  USER'S INN ISDN [Teles] Guenther Kreuz
                         Muehlacker
    49-7042-940906  6511 USER'S INN ISDN [Teles] Guenther Kreuz
                         Muehlacker
    49-711-2261179  1025 HAL 9000        Harald Gerber   Stuttgart
    49-711-2261179  1026 HAL 9000        Harald Gerber   Stuttgart
    49-711-523188   1214 FRANK ISDN      Frank Mueller   Stuttgart

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    49-711-523188   1213 FRANK ZYX19     Frank Mueller   Stuttgart
    49-711-6362252  1612 PANDORA's BOX ZYX   Thorsten Koch  Stuttgart
    49-711-6362252  1613 PANDORA's BOX ISDN  Thorsten Koch  Stuttgart
    49-711-7802520  1202 Zenica ISDN     Axel Haag       Stuttgart
    49-711-7802520  1203 Zenica ISDN     Axel Haag       Stuttgart
    49-711-9018513  1221 FLG BBS ISDN    Josef Plawner   Vaihingen
    49-711-9018513  1220 FLG BBS Josef Plawner   Vaihingen
    49-711-9348045  2    NEC 246 Andreas Schoeller       Denkendorf
    49-711-9348045  1111 NFS/2   Andreas Schoeller       Denkendorf
    49-711-9389202  1459 Tequila Sunrise ISDN  Wolfgang Schlabschi
                         Esslingen
    49-711-9389202  1453 Tequila Sunrise Wolfgang Schlabschi
                         Esslingen
    49-711-9517957  2516 Chaos-Box Line 2  Bernd Lipp  Fellbach
    49-711-9517957  2515 Chaos-Box Line 1  Bernd Lipp  Fellbach
    49-7131-254057  142  ...und ueberhaupt!? II Tobias Schmidt  Heilbronn
    49-7131-254057  1    NC 2474 Tobias Schmidt  Heilbronn
    49-7131-941134  1190 FILES.BBS 1 [ISDN only] Alex Hirthe   Heilbronn
    49-7131-941134  11   PLC 2471        Alex Hirthe     Heilbronn
    49-7134-225-12  2    NEC 2474        Christian Emig  Weinsberg
    49-7134-225-12  3    PLC 2474        Christian Emig  Weinsberg
    49-7134-225-12  275  Starlight-BBS I Christian Emig  Weinsberg
    49-7141-26311   1    Echoserver #1   EL310   Uwe Schikowski  Asperg
    49-7141-26311   916  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Uwe Schikowski  Asperg
    49-7141-273045  10   NEC 2471        Holger Strambach        Freiberg
    49-7141-273045  1015 The Scout       Holger Strambach        Freiberg
    49-7142-980053  499  Blind Fox [EL310]   Frank Vosseler  Ingersheim
    49-7142-980053  498  Blind Fox [ZYX192]  Frank Vosseler  Ingersheim
    49-7147-92005   421  Rising Sun      Daniel Moeller  Sachsenheim
    49-7147-92005   423  Rising Sun ISDN [Teles] Daniel Moeller
                         Sachsenheim
    49-7151-937962  1331 LineMelterSystem Korb   Jochen Linkohr
                         Korb-Steinreinach
    49-7151-937962  1330 LineMelterSystem Korb   Jochen Linkohr
                         Korb-Steinreinach
    49-7151-967969  77   LifeNet-Gateway Albi Rebmann    Weinstadt
    49-7151-967969  777  Internet-Gateway      Albi Rebmann   Weinstadt
    49-7152-949928  1215 Intuition-Base ISDN     Marcus Kuba     Leonberg
    49-7152-949928  1216 Intuition-Base  Marcus Kuba     Leonberg
    49-7161-922346  3099 NET2487 GATE    Jens Reichardt  Goeppingen
    49-7161-922346  3001 SKYNET TITAN I  Jens Reichardt  Goeppingen
    49-7161-922346  3002 SKYNET TITAN II Jens Reichardt  Goeppingen
    49-7171-86018   9081 DV Lines 2+3 (X75)  Michael Gruener Schwaebisch
                         Gmuend
    49-7171-86018   9080 DV Line 1 (V.34)   Michael Gruener Schwaebisch
                         Gmuend
    49-7195-940130  1444 AMIGA Universe #3  Jan Schmidwenzl  Leutenbach

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    49-7195-940130  1454 AMIGA Universe #5  Jan Schmidwenzl  Leutenbach
    49-721-9663934  1    NC 2476 Niels Kessler   Karlsruhe
    49-721-9663934  480  Finest of OS/2  Niels Kessler   Karlsruhe
    49-7231-970788  502  Source BBS [ISDN]  Markus Mandalka  Pforzheim
    49-7231-970788  501  Source BBS [V.34]  Markus Mandalka  Pforzheim
    49-7304-919087  9506 CCD ISDN-A1P    Werner Dworak   Ulm
    49-7304-919087  9507 CCD ELSA        Werner Dworak   Ulm
    49-7309-7270    4002 Weissenhorn Ost 2  Alto Speckhardt  Weissenhorn
    49-7309-7270    3    PLC 2487    Alto Speckhardt   Weissenhorn
    49-7309-7270    4001 Weissenhorn Ost 1  Alto Speckhardt  Weissenhorn
    49-7393-91325   9051 RAPPEL-Kiste ISDN   Klaus Singer   Rottenacker
    49-7393-91325   9050 RAPPEL-Kiste V34   Klaus Singer   Rottenacker
    49-7424-87072   8208 Kaes-Box LINE 2+4 [V.34]  Markus Rueb  Aldingen
    49-7424-87072   8207 Kaes-Box LINE 3+5 [*ISDN*] Markus Rueb  Aldingen
    49-7433-381981  2108 K*A*J ISDN (18-6) Thomas Loeffler  BL-Endingen
    49-7433-381981  2107 K*A*J   Thomas Loeffler BL-Endingen
    49-7459-405337  2041 The 42! ISDN    Tobi Boehm      Nagold
    49-7459-405337  2042 The 42! Tobi Boehm      Nagold
    49-751-793314   2323 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
    49-751-793314   2321 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
    49-751-793315   2324 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
    49-751-793315   8701 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
    49-7562-93739   8501 Sapperlot * ISDN *  Christoph Reichl   Isny
    49-7562-93739   8504 Sapperlot       Christoph Reichl        Isny
    49-771-16142    8035 Ministry Of Silly Walks  Andreas Seybold
                         Donaueschingen
    49-771-16142    8036 Ministry Of Silly Walks  Andreas Seybold
                         Donaueschingen
    49-7727-7251    8006 Alpha-Box       Reinhold Dotter Voehrenbach
    49-7727-7251    8007 Alpha-Box       Reinhold Dotter Voehrenbach
    49-7741-913054  9004 LAUFFEN-BOX ISDN   Heinz Prigge    Kuessaberg
    49-7741-913054  9005 LAUFFEN-BOX     Heinz Prigge    Kuessaberg
    49-7743-91065   9002 Xanth-BBS ISDN  Michael Unverzagt  Birkendorf
    49-7743-91065   9007 Xanth-BBS       Michael Unverzagt  Birkendorf
    49-8035-98182   116  BBS Neubeuern 2 Juergen Heckel  Neubeuern
    49-8035-98182   115  BBS Neubeuern 1 Juergen Heckel  Neubeuern
    49-8074-9225    506  Blues Box [X.75]  Richard Holzner   Schnaitsee
    49-8074-9225    6    PLK 2483        Richard Holzner   Schnaitsee
    49-8105-276101  852  Ghosttown BBS IV   Horst Reisnecker   Gilching
    49-8105-276101  851  Ghosttown BBS III  Horst Reisnecker   Gilching
    49-8141-36125   3566 Kloster-Eichenau   Werner Heine    Eichenau
    49-8141-36125   109  Kloster-Eichenau   Werner Heine    Eichenau
    49-8231-87613   5005 Gargamel Box (V34) Juergen Schlosser
                         Koenigsbrunn
    49-8231-87613   2    NEC 2487  Juergen Schlosser   Koenigsbrunn
    49-8231-87613   5006 Gargamel Box (ISDN)  Juergen Schlosser
                         Koenigsbrunn
    49-8231-90070   347  #-SOM-# Christian Dorner   Koenigsbrunn
    49-8231-90070   345  #-SOM-# Christian Dorner   Koenigsbrunn
    49-8231-90291   1    NC 2480 swen gutbub   Augsburg
    49-8231-90291   6    crazy ix-fuenfundsiebzig   swen gutbub
                         Koenigsbrunn
    49-8232-79535   3743 ANTARES 2 ISDN  Markus Bartsch  Schwabmuenchen
    49-8232-79535   3744 ANTARES 3       Markus Bartsch  Schwabmuenchen

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 28                  20 Apr 1998

    49-8374-6631    2982 Glufamichl I  Peter Rohrhirsch  Dietmannsried
    49-8374-6631    1    NC 2487 Peter Rohrhirsch        Dietmannsried
    49-8531-134004  21   in-passau.de    Frank Hennig    Pocking
    49-8531-134004  28   Pockinger Light Frank Hennig    Pocking
    49-871-26664    135  Science BBS     Jonny Dambrowski     Landshut
    49-871-26664    133  Science BBS     Jonny Dambrowski     Landshut
    49-8781-92116   19   Programmer's Inn Line 3 ISDN    Oliver Weindl
                         Rottenburg
    49-8781-92116   18   Programmer's Inn Line 2 Oliver Weindl
                         Rottenburg
    49-89-32714623  159  Techno Box Eching [LINE 2] Thomas Aichberger
                         Eching
    49-89-32714623  59   Techno Box Eching   Thomas Aichberger  Eching
    49-89-48903291  3505 KNUSPER-BOX #1  Ulrich Vogelsang    Muenchen
    49-89-48903291  914  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Ralf Guertler   Muenchen
    49-89-57966990  909  R24 Backbone Ring-0   Gisela Bierstedt  Munich
    49-89-57966990  999  I/O-Gate Germany Sued  Klaus Wietrzichowski
                         Munich
    49-89-57966990  2    Munich Mail Mafia       Gila Bierstedt  Munich
    49-89-60600375  859  GAMER'S PARADiSE #3 [X75]  Michael Ott  Muenchen
    49-89-60600375  857  GAMER'S PARADiSE #1 [V34+] Michael Ott  Muenchen
    49-89-74141938  705  Silver Surfer's Paradise  Tobias Feterowski
                         Muenchen
    49-89-74141938  724  Silver Surfer's Paradise  Tobias Feterowski
                         Muenchen
    49-89-8402297   999  Kristall/2 [56k]  Christian Heldwein  Germering
    49-89-8402297   2    NEC 2483        Christian Heldwein    Germering
    49-89-89220928  2021 Mini Box Muenchen ISDN  Wolfgang Metternich
                         Muenchen
    49-89-89220928  2020 Mini Box Muenchen  Wolfgang Metternich  Muenchen
    49-911-3939272  1052 OS2 Forum in Franken  Robert Gloeckner
                         Nuernberg
    49-911-3939272  1050 OS2 Forum in Franken  Robert Gloeckner
                         Nuernberg
    49-911-705706   2076 Kalli-BBS 2     Michael von der Bank    Fuerth
    49-911-705706   2075 Kalli-BBS 1     Michael von der Bank    Fuerth
    49-911-8001017  1110 sesom.de [ISDN] Klaus Kettner   Nuernberg
    49-911-8001017  1111 sesom.de [V.34] Klaus Kettner   Nuernberg
    49-911-8001017  11   s/e/s/o/m internet-gateway      Klaus Kettner
                         Nuernberg
    49-9123-968095  2017 FRANKEN-Liaison Otto-Wilhelm Heinze     Lauf
    49-9123-968095  2016 FRANKEN-Liaison Otto-Wilhelm Heinze     Lauf
    49-9129-279521  6599 INTERGATE SYSTEM INTERNET-GATE  Frank Schwarz
                         Nuernberg
    49-9129-279521  6569 MANBOX BBS      Frank Schwarz   Nuernberg
    49-9131-205617  1906 Hinterhaus 1    Martin Kasper   Erlangen
    49-9131-205617  902  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Martin Kasper   Erlangen
    49-9141-81389   2222 ChannelOnlineSystem  Markus Jordan  Weissenburg
    49-9141-81389   22   COS Internet Gateway  Markus Jordan  Weissenburg
    49-9155-998995  2080 Mi Amigo BBS    Kurt Petzoll    Simmelsdorf
    49-9155-998995  2081 Mi Amigo BBS    Kurt Petzoll    Simmelsdorf
    49-9188-903244  2026 Black Mysterious BBS 2  Peter Schunk
                         Postbauer-Heng
    49-9188-903244  2025 Black Mysterious BBS 1  Peter Schunk
                         Postbauer-Heng
    49-9401-3726    3    PLK     Thomas Pinz     Neutraubling
    49-9401-3726    3075 USS Odessey BBS Thomas Pinz     Neutraubling
    49-9401-79462   341  Star Fortress ISDN      Michael Raith   Barbing

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 29                  20 Apr 1998

    49-9401-79462   340  Star Fortress   Michael Raith   Barbing
    49-941-270592   300  TS      Thomas Schauer  Regensburg
    49-941-270592   3580 TS      Thomas Schauer  Regensburg
    49-941-55111    1926 Anwalts Liebling :-))  Rainer Zuber  Regensburg
    49-941-55111    1927 Anwalts Liebling :-))  Rainer Zuber  Regensburg
    49-941-55111    350  ANWALTS LIEBLING :-))  Rainer Zuber  Regensburg
    49-9421-88805   720  Road/2 Ruin  Gerald Schmidhuber  Straubing
    49-9421-88805   2    NEC     Gerald Schmidhuber      Straubing
    49-9453-996021  382  OUTSIDER III  Hans-Joachim Flier  Thalmassing
    49-9453-996021  380  OUTSIDER I   Hans-Joachim Flier  Thalmassing
    49-9604-91281   259  The Project     Florian Klein   Saltendorf
    49-9604-91281   59   The Project     Florian Klein   Saltendorf
    49-9662-6340    3528 Cats BBS #2     Mario Hermann   Vilseck
    49-9662-6340    3527 Cats BBS #1     Mario Hermann   Vilseck
    7-075-221-4773  2    InfoCenter      Michael Bogdanov        Tambov
    7-075-221-4773  325  InfoCenter      Michael Bogdanov        Tambov
    7-075-222-1426  3    APB BBS Anatoly Nikitin Tambov

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 30                  20 Apr 1998

    7-075-222-1426  326  APB BBS Anatoly Nikitin Tambov
    7-0752-210109   360  Owl     Alexander Stratienko    Tambov
    7-0752-210109   324  SKYSTAR Alexander Stratienko    Tambov
    7-095-211-1274  128  R50 Fido<->Inet Gate    Yuri Safronov   Moscow
    7-095-211-1274  204  #NAME?  Yuri Safronov   Moscow
    7-095-291-8104  999  R50 Inbound Gate        Boris Fifelin   Moscow
    7-095-291-8104  63   Falcon Hill's   Boris Fifelin   Moscow
    7-328-22-10189  503  Sandra Station  Nurlan Sadykov  Taldykorgan
    7-328-22-10189  508  Sandra Station  Nurlan Sadykov
                         Taldykorgan Kazakhstan
    90-216-3495134  254  CD-Shop BBS     Baran Baygan    Istanbul TR
    90-216-3495134  254  CD-Shop BBS     Baran Baygan    Istanbul TR
    966-2-663-3449  999  Arabian Inbound Khaled Al-Bassam        Jeddah
    966-2-663-3449  100  Saudi BBS       Khaled Al-Bassam        Jeddah
    966-2-682-0030  800  Red Sea Runners BBS     Peter Wilcox    Jeddah
    966-2-682-0030  650  EKBBS   Ed Kaamino      Jeddah
    966-2-682-0030  600  JAM BBS Dave Franks     Jeddah
    966-2-682-0030  601  JAM BBS Dave Franks     Jeddah

    The *C structure can't even tell geography. I was totalling up the
    sysops by state/provience and suddenly wierd stuff began appearing
    and the program reported the results below. I can't make this shit
    up. These bozo's we call *C's can't even read a map or follow
    instructions. Exceptions are spelled out by specific listings.
    <sigh>


    134     Beiseker Community School BBS
            Beiseker,AB     AB  Elvis Chow  403-947-2036
            AB Count    65
            AL Count    29
    1002    Satellite   Amnon,Nissan    an
            Raleigh NC  919-851-3858
    3   FileGate    Saskatchewan    an
            Richard D. Bonebrake    306-329-4778
    9   Net 140 Treasurer   Saskatchewan    an
            Lawrence Goulet     306-931-4536
            an Count    3
            AR Count    24
    236     Jagged Little Pill  Moose,Jaw   aw
            Terry Slack     306-691-5413
            aw Count    1
            AZ Count    121
    21  Hack On The Beach   Matividiri,Aruba    ba
            Jacobo Oduber   297-8-56851
            ba Count    1
            BC Count    181
    540     L'Escapade S.B.E.   Granby,Qc.  c.
            Yannick Brosseau    514-776-7810
            c. Count    1
            CA Count    400
    35  Bella Donna BBS     Wrightsville,Beach  ch
            Mett Renfrow    910-256-6969
            ch Count    1
            CO Count    104
            CT Count    131
            DC Count    4
            DE Count    24

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    24  Spinnaker BBS   Charlotte,Amalie,U.S.,Virgin,Islands    ds
            Bruce Berry     809-779-1951
            ds Count    1
            FL Count    334
            GA Count    71
            HI Count    2
            IA Count    31
            Id Count    8
            IL Count    131
            IN Count    84
    9   229 Gateway     Oshawa,Ontario  io
            Gateway Host    905-433-4765
            io Count    1
    75  Who's Askin'?   Matanuska-Susitna,Valley,Alaska     ka
            Alex Vasauskas  907-745-6093
    13  Cybertronix Corporation     Palmer,Alaska   ka
            Dennis Stout    907-745-6244
            ka Count    2
            Ks Count    44
            KY Count    24
            LA Count    46
    53  The Big Electric Cat    Melville    le
            Frank Cox   306-728-4530
            le Count    1
            MA Count    86
            MB Count    32
            MD Count    72
            ME Count    55
            MI Count    163
            MN Count    39
            MO Count    96
    448     Prophecy BBS
            Bill,Wehrkamp   mp  East Stroudsburg PA     717-476-3115
            mp Count    1
            MS Count    26
    101     South Echomail Hub  Regina  na
            Darryl Gregorash    306-924-1577
    1096    MR. ComTek  Regina  na
            Jim McBride     306-777-4493
    118     SkyWatch    Regina  na
            Ross Parker     306-569-0581
    18  Ganshirt At Home    Regina  na
            Ken Ganshirt    306-543-1949
    219     The Legacy  Regina  na
            Richard Spring  306-789-8291
    230     Federated Commonwealth  Regina  na
            Grant Whiteman  306-949-6481
    234     Fast Eddie's    Regina  na
            Ed Seneshen     306-924-3789
    34  Late Night  Regina  na
            Dayton Cowles   306-522-8934
    41  The Bit Stop    Regina  na
            Garth Stimpson  306-545-0889

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    86  BIG BANG Burger Bar     Regina  na
            Darryl Gregorash    306-924-1577
            na Count    10
            NB Count    15
            NC Count    144
            ND Count    6
            NE Count    46
            NH Count    33
            NJ Count    145
            NM Count    18
            NS Count    11
            NT Count    1
            NV Count    21
            NY Count    219
            OH Count    185
            OK Count    77
            ON Count    466
            OR Count    88
            PA Count    211
            PE Count    6
            PQ Count    6
            PR Count    7
            QC Count    77
    20  Searchlight Global Access BBS   Batesville,Ar.  r.
            Wayne Ray   870-698-1798
            r. Count    1
    330     The Low Road BBS    Milford     rd
            Kurt Robair     603-672-3147
            rd Count    1
            RI Count    8
    76  The Ragnet  Weyburn     rn
            Amos Johnson    306-848-0075
            rn Count    1
    160     Cook's Kitchen  Prince,Albert   rt
            Trevor Cook     306-764-0887
            rt Count    1
            SC Count    58
            SD Count    7
    26  Midnight Oil BBS    LEC,Lethbridge,Alberta  ta
            John Wagontall  403-329-3381
    17  TERMINAL    Lethbridge,Alberta  ta
            Laz Gottli  403-327-9741
    63  Miniature Aircraft  Medicine,Hat,Alberta    ta
            Jim Rea     403-527-9322
            ta Count    3
    60  The Shack   Asquith     th
            Richard D. Bonebrake    306-329-4778
    69  Valhalla BBS    Asquith     th
            Rory Bonebrake  306-329-4778
    245     The Polecat BBS     Somersworth     th
            Marc Bilodeau   603-743-4366
            th Count    3
            TN Count    140
    1005    Nut's Only  Normal,Heights  ts
            Lynne Neely     619-280-1507
            ts Count    1
            Tx Count    370
    2   Purgatory   Canon,City  ty  Co.
            Richard Cochran  719-269-9261
    640     The Other Side  Rapid,City  ty
            Jason Reynolds  605-342-7335
    169     IBECC/TeleStar Host     West,Adams,County   ty
            Marshall Barry  303-426-1866
    69  TelePeople{sm} (Retired)    West,Adams,County   ty
            Terry Travis    303-426-1866

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 33                  20 Apr 1998

    969     TeleCircuits{sm}    West,Adams,County   ty
            Michelle Weisblat   303-426-1917
            ty Count    5
    1300    Echo Hub    Central,Valley,EHub     ub  SJ3
            Dennis Blair    408-229-9753
    1100    Echo Hub    East,Valley,EHub    ub  SJ1
            Johnny Bowen    408-946-5454
            ub Count    2
            UT Count    22
            VA Count    103
            VT Count    13
            WA Count    137
            WI Count    56
            WV Count    26


    Check out the locations listed for these nodes in the nodelist as
    edited by our fine and outstanding (did I say diligent) *C
    structure from the NC right through to t he ZC who reviewed the
    changed and approved them.


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    107     KRA-Soft    Tomsk*,*     ,*                 Pavel Krasikov
    2       Net 205 Mail Server II   209.77.232.2       M Hernandez
    500     Bad Sector BBS           9600               Revelstoke BC
    12      Spine FTP Hub            Region,17          Bob Seaborn
    5       GreenTree Ground Station Grid:,CM88         KB6LWN
    2       Deputy R12C              (Eastern,Canada)   Susan Duncan
    202     Time-Out BBS             Sadsburyville,PA.  Bobby Miller
    107     Vermilion Lighthouse     Vermilion,Alta.    Tony Toews

    (Note in the last two there is not supposed to be a period after
    the state


    Look at the locations listed for these BBS's:


    2    Deputy R12C            (Eastern,Canada)
         Susan Duncan    613-744-5750
    2    Net 205 Mail Server II  209.77.232.2
         M Hernandez     209-456-8393

    65   Ramey Cyber BBS     Aguadilla,PR
         TELNET Node Only ramnet.dyn.ml.org                                                                  787-890-3032
    2    FEC 320         Eastern,CT
         Vacant                  860-535-4284
    241  Red October     San,Jose,Ca
         ADMIN                   408-629-4695

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    2    SoCalNet EC     Los,Angeles,CA
         Echomail Coordinator    310-553-6379
    236  Zero-G          Ottawa,ON
         Fox                     613-747-0615
    2    Net 2215 Inte   Canton,OH
         ftnadmin                330-588-9690
    9    229 Gateway     Oshawa,Ontario
         Gateway Host            905-433-4765
    500  Lake Superior HUB       Thunder,Bay,ON
         GCS Sysops      807-344-6778
    512  Global Connect Systems  Thunder,Bay,ON
         GCS Sysops      807-344-6778
    10   Internet EMail Gateway  Rochester,NY
         GrandPa         716-461-3971
    999  NET 2614 Test Node      Somewhere,PA
         Joe Sysop       215-393-8594
    301  12&12 regurgitated      Fullerton,CA
         [email protected]                                                                    714-532-1586
    5    GreenTree Ground Station    Grid:,CM88
         KB6LWN              707-987-4736
    5    Net 2613 Mail Server    Rochester,NY
         Mother          716-338-2214
    421  T&M Associates          Middletown,NJ
         mquinlan@apollo 732-706-1366
    203  the GAME ZONE BBS       Hayward,CA
         Mr. GAME        510-785-4263
    205  NEW APPLICATIONS HERE   Fresno,CA
         NET 205 NC      209-251-7529
    2    NET 309 NEC             Sierra,Vista,AZ
         Net 309 NEC     520-515-0185
    999  Temp # For New Applicants Eau,Claire,WI
         New Applicant   715-552-0888
    9999 New Net 231 SysOp       Indianapolis,IN
         New SysOp       317-598-0813
    503  Home For The Digitally Intolerant   Orleans,ON
         "Paul ""THE HAMMER"" Hansen"       613-824-1758

    2    US MAIL SERVICE          Tacoma,WA
         Post Master 253-474-1720
    3    Internet Gateway Net396  New,Orleans,LA
         Postmaster  504-897-6006
    3    Internet Gateway Net3828 Mandeville,LA
         Postmaster  504-727-4951
    102  Private Gateway         Jacksonville,FL
         Postmaster  904-641-8892
    1551 UUCP Gateway Net261     Baltimore,MD
         Postmaster  410-837-1420

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    350  Hub300 Internet Gate    Weedsport,NY
         postmaster  315-689-7729
    1550 Private Gateway         SouthBawlamer,MD
         Postmaster  410-837-1420
    2    NET267 Internet Gateway Selkirk,NY
         Postmaster  518-767-0144
    998  Net 231 UUCP            Indianapolis,IN
         Postmaster  317-856-9020
    2    Jax Internet Gateway    Jacksonville,Fl
         Postmaster  904-381-9613
    11   Med TechNet Internet    Buffalo,NY
         postmaster  716-636-8235
    630  Canandaigua Academy BBS Canandaigua,NY
         Sysop       716-396-3889
    41   Norwood School District Peoria,IL
         Sysop       309-676-7871
    2    2608 Mail Server        Brownville,NY
         System Operator       315-785-9261
    3    387NET Internet Gateway San,Antonio,TX
         UUCP        210-674-0341
    5    R19 Internet Gate       AR,LA,OK,TX
         UUCP        918-254-6618
    5    Net352 UUCP Gateway     Shelton,WA
         UUCP        360-427-1759
    100  Southern Oregon Gateway Albany,OR
         UUCP        541-928-953
    1000 Wplace Gateway          Sanford,NC
         wpadmin     919-499-2088


    901-384-0312    501     Hub 500 Mail System
         Memphis,Tn  Mike Wilson
    901-384-0312    516     CRP Administrator
         Memphis,Tn  Susie Wilson

    714-639-1139    10  Club 103 Pres
         Orange,CA   Warren Bonner
    714-639-1139    8   Club 103 StoreKeeper
         Orange,CA   Warren Bonner
    714-639-1139    401 Ol' Codger's BBS
         Orange,CA   Warren Bonner

    714-961-5499    402 The Sunset Grill
         Placentia,CA    Dennis Carr
    714-961-5499    9   Club 103 Secretary
         Placentia,CA    Dennis Carr

    604-589-8561    6   Basic'ly Manager
         Surrey,BC   Bob Satti
    604-589-8561    9   Basic'ly BBS
         Surrey,BC   Bob Satti

    604-597-4425    86   D's Space
         Surrey,BC   D' Herringshaw

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 37                  20 Apr 1998

    604-597-4425    1006 Pacific Rim PR
         Surrey,BC   Bill Herringshaw
    604-597-4425    85   Bill's Place
         Surrey,BC   Bill Herringshaw

    819-682-2431    222     In Vino Veritas
         Aylmer,QC   Dave Beach
    819-682-2431    99      Say No To Echopol
         Aylmer,QC   Dave Beach

    540-373-8215    99  Who's Got What (WGW)
         Falmouth,Va     Jack Williams
    540-373-8215    30  Jack's Emporium
         Falmouth,Va     Jack Williams

    604-820-2889    563     Amazon BBS
         Mission,BC  Brett Taylor
    604-820-2889    562     Amazon BBS
         Mission,BC  Brett Taylor

    604-856-3661    316     TASH Online
         Aldergrove,BC   Stuart Miller
    604-856-3661    315     Zombie Zoo
         Aldergrove,BC   Stuart Miller

    613-332-8236    390     eXpress >< conneXions
         Bancroft,ON     August Abolins
    613-332-8236    144     eXpress >< conneXions
         Bancroft,ON     August Abolins

    613-498-2245    307     Tequilla Sunrise
         Brockville,ON   Tammy Wilson
    613-498-2245    308     Travelers Rest
         Brockville,ON   James Edwards

    760-430-1953    429     Corpsmans Corner
         Vista,CA    William Scott Lockwood III
    760-430-1953    1234    Corpsmans Corner
         Vista,CA    TJ Lockwood

    812-481-2420    2   The Last Stand BBS #1
         Jasper,IN   Tim Tooley
    812-481-2420    3   The Last Stand BBS #2
         Jasper,IN   Tim Tooley

    850-957-9150    410 The Visible Spectrum BBS
         Munson,FL   Scott Cohron
    850-957-9150    5   North Santa Rosa LEC
         Munson,FL   Scott Cohron

    912-786-6249    7   CMS Group
         Tybee,IS,GA     Carl Savio
    912-786-6249    8   CMS Group
         Tybee,IS,GA     Carl Savio

    913-648-6979    318 KC GeneSplicer BBS
         Leawood,KS  Steve Everley

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 38                  20 Apr 1998

    913-648-6979    800 PI4HIRE.COM<tm> Investigations
         Shawnee,Mission,KS  Steve Everley

    916-381-8788    909     The Capitol City Gateway RBBS
         Sacramento,CA   Charles Doughty
    916-381-8788    203     The Capitol City Gateway RBBS
         Sacramento,CA   Charles Doughty

    919-851-3858    1003    Shalom III
         Raleigh,NC      Amnon Nissan
    919-851-3858    1002    Satellite
         Amnon,Nissan    Raleigh NC

    920-725-0779    630     APPLEGATE
         Neenah,WI   Tim Peeters
    920-725-0779    631     APPLEGATE 1
         Neenah,WI   Tim Peeters


    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 39                  20 Apr 1998

    941-766-1395    15  Sarah's Place
         Port,Charlotte,FL   Jay Galvin

    410-837-1420    1552  Moderator OtherNets
         Mob,Town,MD        Thom LaCosta
    410-837-1420    1551  UUCP Gateway Net261
         Baltimore,MD       Postmaster
    410-837-1420    1550  Private Gateway
         South,Bawlamer,MD  Postmaster
    410-837-1420    1352  The Barter Board-Hon
         South,Bawlamer,MD  Thom LaCosta


    What town? What sysop? What BBS?

    Here's the 1st runnerup....

    416-502-3712    121 KARICO BS-BBS II* *
          North,York,ON   Kari Suomela
    416-502-3712    15  UCnet File Distribution* *
          North,York,ON   Kari Suomela
    416-502-3712    2   KARICO BS-BBS
          North,York,ON   Kari Suomela
    416-502-3712    32  Echo Distribution 2* *
          North,York,ON   Kari Suomela


    They're in there twice, honest. Can you find them? Nodelist 100.

    330-394-7444    10  The Panda Cave
           Warren,Oh   John Etling
    330-394-7444    10  The Panda Cave
           Warren,Oh   John Etling

    403-696-3765    202     Megasoft Breton Exchange
           Breton,AB   Paul Kugyelka
    403-696-3765    701     Megasoft Breton Exchange
           Breton,AB   Paul Kugyelka

    407-348-5295    23  Osceola Express BBS
           Kissimmee,FL    Larry Charpiat
    407-348-5295    23  Osceola Express BBS
           Kissimmee,FL    Larry Charpiat

    407-847-8990    36  Noble House BBS
           Kissimmee,FL    Michael Kirst
    407-847-8990    36  Noble House BBS
           Kissimmee,FL    Michael Kirst

    412-821-8431    43  Mtn. View Micro Mall
           Pittsburgh,PA   Marcel Schmelzer
    412-821-8431    42  Mtn. View Micro Mall
           Pittsburgh,PA   Marcel Schmelzer

    416-247-6151    10426   TIBM Wizard* *
           Rexdale,ON  Ray Dyer
    416-247-6151    426     TIBM Wizard* *
           Rexdale,ON  Ray Dyer


    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 40                  20 Apr 1998

    416-745-7883    307     T.A.P.P.S. Music BBS* *
           Rexdale,ON  Terry Cairns
    416-745-7883    10307   T.A.P.P.S. Music BBS* *
           Rexdale,ON  Terry Cairns

    505-397-4990    2   LAMPLIGHTER TECH HELP
           Hobbs,NM    Mike Nichols
    505-397-4990    3   LAMPLIGHTER TECH HELP
           Hobbs,NM    Mike Nichols

    510-444-8246    32  OAsis
           Oakland,CA  Michael Jacob
    510-444-8246    32  OAsis
           Oakland,CA  Michael Jacob

    561-575-5535    4   Jupiter BBS
           Jupiter,Fl  Ted Parsons
    561-575-5535    4   Jupiter BBS
           Jupiter,Fl  Ted Parsons

    561-743-9957    28  The Dirty Diaper BBS
           Jupiter,Fl  Robert Krausankas
    561-743-9957    26  The Dirty Diaper BBS
           Jupiter,Fl  Robert Krausankas

    561-878-6643    11  The Swap Shop BBS
           Port,St,Lucie,Fl    Mark Weingartner
    561-878-6643    11  The Swap Shop BBS
           Port,St,Lucie,Fl    Mark Weingartner

    602-814-9142    153     ADTBBS
           Chandler,AZ     Aaron Thompson
    602-814-9142    7777    ADTBBS
           Phoenix,AZ      Aaron Thompson

    603-942-8516    237     The Dog House
           Northwood,NH    Henry Masten
    603-942-8516    305     The Dog House
           Northwood,NH    Henry Masten

    604-266-5271    716     BandMaster Wits' End
           Vancouver,BC    Ardith Hinton
    604-266-5271    7715    BandMaster Postie
           Vancouver,BC    D E Hinton

    604-524-9046    831    Eclectic Lab 1
           New,Westminster,BC  Mary-Anne Wise
    604-524-9046    1008   Pacific Rim Librarian
           New,Westminster,BC  Mary-Anne Wise

    604-540-8048    800     Nibble's Roost
           Richmond,BC     Alec Herrmann
    604-540-8048    8086    Nibble's Roost
           Richmond,BC     Alec Herrmann

    614-879-6762    830     The Lillie's Pad
           West,Jefferson,Oh   Doug Lillie
    614-879-6762    840     The Lillie's Pad 2
           West,Jefferson,Oh   Doug Lillie


    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 41                  20 Apr 1998

    702-453-9852    2       TOL BBS
           Las,Vegas,NV    Ed Ellis
    702-453-9852    333     TOL BBS
           Las,Vegas,NV    Ed Ellis

    703-242-4487    347     OS/2 Shareware
           Fairfax,VA  Pete Norloff
    703-242-4487    357     OS/2 Shareware
           Fairfax,VA  Pete Norloff

    704-552-1411    30  Moobasi Skylight
           Charlotte,NC    Blaine Schmidt
    704-552-1411    50  Moobasi Optics Ink
           Charlotte,NC    Jennifer Schmidt

    705-424-6246    510     Toms BBS Attempt
           Baxter,ON   Tom Trent
    705-424-6246    501     Tom's BBS Attempt
           Baxter,ON   Tom Trent

    705-487-6520    252     The Other Domain* *
           Hawkestone,ON   Jeff Irvine
    705-487-6520    107     The Other Domain BBS
           Hawkestone,ON   Jeff Irvine

    724-527-3749    334     KastlerocK
           Jeannette,PA    Jamie Kowinsky
    724-527-3749    13      KastlerocK
           Jeannette,PA    Jamie Kowinsky

    724-694-9701    305     The Titantic BBS
           New,Derry,PA     T.J. McMillen Jr.
    724-694-9701    33      The Titantic BBS - Node 1
           New,Derry,PA T.J. McMillen Jr.

    732-262-7967    701     The Other BBS
           Brick,Township,NJ   Stephen Reinen
    732-262-7967    702     Affordable Computer Services
           Brick,Township,NJ   George Steinmetz

    905-721-8960    610     * * Paranormal Discussions
           Whitby,ON   Paul Dobbs
    905-721-8960    2405    Paranormal Discussions* *
           Oshawa,ON   Paul Dobbs

    905-875-1133    612     Colour Dragon ][
           Milton,ON   Bruce Smith
    905-875-1133    100     Colour Dragon ][
           Milton,ON   Bruce Smith

    909-794-4340    255     The Dragon's Lair
           Yucaipa,CA  John Corder
    909-794-4340    404     The Dragon's Lair
           Yucaipa,CA  John Corder



    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 42                  20 Apr 1998

    You check it out. *C's can't delegate, but some did:


    313-582-0888 400 bloom county
           dearborn,mi  gary gilmore
    313-582-0888 2   Region 11 Assistant RC
           Dearborn,MI  Gary Gilmore

    613-744-5750 403 Akasha's Bubble Bath & Magic Potion Emporium
          Ottawa,ON           Susan Duncan
    613-744-5750 2   Deputy R12C
          (Eastern,Canada)    Susan Duncan

    905-278-9495    10  Net 250 Deputy NC
          Port,Credit,ON     Glenn Menzie
    905-278-9495    114 The Port Credit Bulletin Board
          Port,Credit,ON     Glenn Menzie



    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 43                  20 Apr 1998

    Since when was treasurer a listed position in the *C structure?
    How does it move mail? And where in P4 do filehubs grow? And will
    the real town please stand up? nAll with the same phone number....


    306-931-4536    9   Net 140 Treasurer
          Saskatchewan Lawrence Goulet
    306-931-4536    117     .\\averick 2
          Saskatoon    Lawrence Goulet
    306-931-4536    209     North File Hub
          Saskatoon    Lawrence Goulet

    317-856-9020    3   Net 231 Treasurer
          Indianapolis,IN     Charlie Smith
    317-856-9020    998     Net 231 UUCP
          Indianapolis,IN     Postmaster
    317-856-9020    992     The CyberSpace
          Indianapolis,IN     Charlie Smith

    403-686-2550    4   SASA Treasurer
          Calgary,AB  Sid Lee
    403-686-2550    122     Rascal BBS
          Calgary,AB  Sid Lee

    416-469-0611    3   Net Treasurer* *
          Toronto,ON  Ken Patience
    416-469-0611    610     M.T.A.C. BBS* *
          Toronto,ON  Ken Patience


    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 44                  20 Apr 1998

    416-757-8903    404     T.C.C.C. BBS
          Scarborough,ON  Merv Curley
    416-757-8903    3   Net 250 Treasurer
          Scarborough,ON  Merv Curley

    425-742-1597    51  Silverfox's Den
          Edmonds,WA  Larry Goff
    425-742-1597    2   L.S.O. Treasurer
          Edmonds,WA  Larry Goff

    619-566-0577    1401 Ancient Warriors I
          Mira,Mesa,Ca    Anthony Bellville
    619-566-0577    2    NET202 TREAS
          Mira,Mesa,CA    Anthony Bellville

    732-821-4533    101 The Maven's Roost
          Kendall,Park,NJ     Alan Rackmill
    732-821-4533    8   Net 107 Treasurer (NT)
          Kendall,Park,NJ     Alan Rackmill

    915-598-2042    74  Sub-Rosa
          El,Paso,TX  David Butler
    915-598-2042    9   Net381 Treasurer
          El,Paso,TX  David Butler

    306-329-4778    69  Valhalla BBS
          Asquith         Rory  Bonebrake
    306-329-4778    3   FileGate
          Saskatchewan    Richard D. Bonebrake
    306-329-4778    60  The Shack
          Asquith         Richard D. Bonebrake

    541-688-5853    8   The Grand Illusion
          Eugene,OR   Donna Johnson
    541-688-5853    7   Dimension 7
          Eugene,OR   Russ Johnson

    604-463-9532    98  A Difficult Point
          Maple,Ridge,BC  Eric Wold
    604-463-9532    200 Lynn's Place
          Maple,Ridge,BC  Lynn Wold



    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 45                  20 Apr 1998

    Same phone number. Whatsa filebone? What does that have to
    do with mail? And how does the same phone number exist in
    two different towns?


    215-633-0583    216 Storm Front BBS
          Bensalem,PA     Bill Dennison
    215-633-0583    2         Filebone Hub
          Croydon,PA      Bill Dennison

    732-494-3417    50  Net 107 Social Coord   (NSC)
          Edison,NJ   Larry Feldman
    732-494-3417    344     Planet Shadowstar TBBS
          Edison,NJ   Larry Feldman


    Same phone number, different nodes? different sysop?


    212-567-2509 320 Thunderdome BBS
           New,York,NY                 Robert Forgione
    212-567-2509 5   NYCnet EchoMail CRP Administrator
           New,York,NY


    ;E ,507,WWW_BBS,Leeuwarden,Klaus_Spithost,31-58-2802106,
        9600,V32B,V42B,V34,VFC, CM,XA,U,ENC
    ;E  -- Duplicate Node number -- "507"
    ;E ,VFC,U,TUh,,,,
    ;E  -- Invalid Node number -- "VFC"
    ;E ,207,The_Chainsaw_Operator,Bucharest,Andrei_Steriopol,
        40-1-613-7975,XA,LO,V3 2B,V42B
    ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "XA"
    ;E HUB,200,TAIPEI_Net_Hub_200,Taipei_Taiwan,Teco_Jinn,
        886-2-22602-2761,14400,MO ,V32b,XX
    ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "14400"
    ;E ,201,Black_Bird_QBBS,Taipei,Teco_Jinn,
        886-2-2602-2761,14400,MO,XX,Z16
    ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "14400"
    ;E ,1427,Super_Space_BBS,Taipei_Taiwan,Chen-long_Ho,
        886-2-2875-2787,9600CM,XA,V 32B,VFC,V42B
    ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "9600CM"


    Congratulations to the fine *C structure's careful review of
    their submissions this week (Nodelist 100)


    Here they are!

    4,Waldo CRP Mail Slave,"Shelton,WA",Waldo Maylor,360-427-1759
    5,NYCnet EchoMail CRP Administrator,"New,York,NY",
        Maxine Forgione,212-567-2509
    516,CRP Administrator,"Memphis,Tn",Susie Wilson,901-384-0312
    87,MAIL ONLY,"Colorado,Springs,CO",Pikes Peak CRP,719-260-9721
    2,L.S.O. Treasurer,"Edmonds,WA",Larry Goff,425-742-1597
    3,Net 231 Treasurer,"Indianapolis,IN",Charlie Smith,317-856-9020
    3,Net 250 Treasurer,"Scarborough,ON",Merv Curley,416-757-8903
    3,Net Treasurer* *,"Toronto,ON",Ken Patience,416-469-0611

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 46                  20 Apr 1998

    4,SASA Treasurer,"Calgary,AB",Sid Lee,403-686-2550
    8,Net 107 Treasurer (NT),"Kendall,Park,NJ",Alan Rackmill,732-821-4533
    9,Net381 Treasurer,"El,Paso,TX",David Butler,915-598-2042
    9,Net 140 Treasurer,Saskatchewan,Lawrence Goulet,306-931-453

    After all, the whole WORLD needs be able to send them a check, right?


    Did you ever wonder if the U is suppose to be in it's own
    comma delimited field as opposed to joined to other characters?


    Example

    is
    ,U,FAX,NEC,
    the proper way to display flags

    or is
    ,UFAX,NEC
    ,UNEC,FAX
    the proper way?

    It would seem the first makes sense for those programs such as
    the Fidonet Sniffer programs I've written to insure we as sysops
    have a good, well maintained nodelist.

    Heck, the news would even be man bites dog. <g>

    The following nodes are flying an X2 flag, but according to the
    bottom of nodelist.100 no such flags exist. In fact one has an
    X2H which is presumed to be an exotic version of X2. <g> Way
    to go *C structure, a legend in your own mind.


    14,Maple Shade Opus ISDN X2 Host,"Maple,Shade,NJ",
         Barry Geller,609-414-9095,
         9600,CM,XA,V34,VFC,V32t,V32b,H16,V42b,UV120H,X2H
    14,Project Enable,"Cross,Lanes,WV",
         Tom Freeman,304-766-2692,
         9600,V34,VFC,V32T,H16,V32B,V42B,XA,CM,UV110L,V120L,V120H,X 2
    170,Mnemonic Oubliette,"Broken,Arrow,Ok",
         Matt Weese,918-455-5806,
         9600,CM,MO,XA,V34,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32T,H16,UFAX,X2C,ENC,NSMH
    3000,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
         Bob Juge,281-980-1146,
         9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
    3001,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
         Bob Juge,281-980-1092,
         9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
    32,Jim In Motion BBS,"Palm,Bay,FL",
         Jim Chiravalle,407-952-8089,
         9600,V32b,CM,XX,X2,,,,
    48,The Clovis Connection,"Clovis,CA",
         Rod Jessen,209-323-7583,
         9600,XX,CM,MO,V32b,V32T,V42b,VFC,V34,X2C

    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 47                  20 Apr 1998

    501,The Inner Sanctum |N1|,"Welland,ON",
         Jamie Lee,905-732-9826,
         9600,CM,XX,V32B,V34,V42B,H16,VFC,UV34+,X2
    502,The Inner Sanctum |N2|,"Welland,ON",
         Jamie Lee,905-732-5149,
         9600,CM,XX,V32B,V34,V42B,H16,VFC,UV34+,X2
    91,AmiConnection,"Easly,SC",John Hoyt,864-855-8407,
         9600,H16,VFC,V32,V34,V42B,X2 ,CM,XA
    97,Net247 FileEcho Coordinator,"Welland,ON",
         Jamie Lee,905-732-9826,
         9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,H16,V32T,V34,VFC,UV34+,X2
    99,Net247 EchoMail Coordinator,"Welland,ON",
         Jamie Lee NEC,905-732-9826,
         9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,H16,V32T,V34,VFC,UNEC,V34+,X2


    The following nodes are flying a V90 flag when no such flag
    exists at the bottom of nodelist.100. More of the same from
    the inept and brain dead *C structure that couldn't tell a
    good flag grm a good fart.


    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 48                  20 Apr 1998


    54,Starfire - ISDN/V.90 Host,"Bartlett,Tn",
         Phil Arnold,901-386-6067,
         300,CM,XX,UISDN,V90,
    110,Aces High/2,"Hamilton,ON",
         Stephen Adams,905-547-5825,
         9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,V 34,V90,U,MELEE,
    128,Computer Junction,"Elizabeth,NJ",
         Jeff Shapiro,908-355-8884,
         9600,CM,XR,H16,V32b,V32T,V42b,VFC,V34,V90
    3000,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
         Bob Juge,281-980-1146,
         9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
    3001,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
         Bob Juge,281-980-1092,
         9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
    98,Hamilton Wentworth UEC,"Hamilton,ON",
          Steve Adams,905-547-5825,
         9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,V34,V90,U,NSMH,dddddd
    99,Hamilton Wentworth NEC,"Hamilton,ON",
         Steve Adams,905-547-5825,
         9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,V34,V90,U,NSMH,


    Here are the Z1 & Z2 listed UUCP gateways. Well sort of. The
    consistency in listing them is about as consistent as jello.
    The technology must overwhelm the IQ of our imperious *C
    structure's available digits in Z1.


    10,Internet EMail Gateway,"Rochester,NY",
         GrandPa,716-461-3971,
         9600,V34,V32b,CM, XX,GUUCP,


    This is a "stealth" gteway!


    10,Net209 UUCP Gate,"Las,Vegas,NV",
          Joseph Gibson,702-898-2665,
          9600,CM,XX,V32b,V42b,VFC,V34,
    100,Net214 Internet Gateway,"Visalia,CA",
          Raymond Quinn,209-636-8647,
          9600,CM,XA,V32b,v42b,GUUCP,
    100,Net 346 Services,"Spokane,WA",
          Rocky Seelbach,509-928-6071,
          9600,H16,CM,V34,XX,GUUCP,
    100,Southern Oregon Gateway,"Albany,OR",
          UUCP,541-928-9535,
          9600,CM,XA,v32b,v42b, v34,vFC,GUUCP,



    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 49                  20 Apr 1998

    This is an "undercover" gateway!


    1000,Net143 uucp,"San,Jose,Ca",
          Doug Coatney,408-865-1560,
          9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,H 16,V34,VFC,V32T,


    This one can't read the bottom of the nodelist!


    1000,Wplace Gateway,"Sanford,NC",
           wpadmin,919-499-2088,
           9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,H16, V32t,V34,U,UUCP


    Another "seath" gateway. Many are hidden.


    1001,uucp,"San,Jose,Ca",
    Alan Baker,408-256-8367,9600,CM,MO,XA,V32b,V42b,V34,VFC ,V32T,H16
    1023,Wildfire,"Mesquite,Tx",
    Phil Ashley,972-613-7795,9600,V32b,V42b,V34,CM,XA,G UUCP
    103,MPC Systems,"West,Melbourne,FL",
    Rob Taylor,407-722-0574,9600,V34,VFC,V32b,V42b,CM,GUUCP,
    128,Ursa Major II,"Manhattan,Beach,CA",
    Scott Robb,310-545-7482,9600,CM,XX,V32b,V42b,H16,V32T,VFC,V34,GUUCP
    13,Check Source,"Urbana,IL",
    Melissa Woo,217-244-6954,9600,CM,XA,H14,V32,GUUCP,


    Another *C structure that can't read the bottom of the nodelist!
    Gee, I wonder if they color it in with crayons or something?


    153,ADTBBS,"Chandler,AZ",
         Aaron Thompson,602-814-9142,
         9600,CM,XA,V32,V42b,VFC,UU CP,
    1551,UUCP Gateway Net261,"Baltimore,MD",
         Postmaster,410-837-1420,
         9600,CM,XX,V32b ,V42b,GUUCP,
    2,Jax Internet Gateway,"Jacksonville,Fl",
         Postmaster,904-381-9613,
         9600,CM,MO,XX, V32b,V42b,V34,GUUCP,
    2,NET267 Internet Gateway,"Selkirk,NY",
         Postmaster,518-767-0144,
         9600,CM,XX,V32B, V42B,V34,GUUCP,
    2342,The Message Board,"Irving,TX",
         Gary Butters,972-313-7160,
         9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,V34,MNP,GUUCP,U,V120H,V120L
    3,387NET Internet Gateway,"San,Antonio,TX",
         UUCP,210-674-0341,
         9600,CM,MO,XA,V34, V32b,V42b,H16,V32T,VFC,GUUCP
    3,Internet Gateway Net3828,"Mandeville,LA",
         Postmaster,504-727-4951,
         9600,CM,XA,V 34,VFC,V32B,GUUCP,
    3,Internet Gateway Net396,"New,Orleans,LA",
         Postmaster,504-897-6006,
         9600,CM,XA,V 34,VFC,V32b,GUUCP,
    3,Net 218 UUCP Gateway,"Glendora,CA",
         John Hentsch,626-914-5044,
         9600,XX,CM,VFC,V34,V32b,V42b,GUUCP,UNEC,
    306,The Crystal Ship,"Aloha,OR",
        Mark Loofburrow,503-591-8873,
         9600,XB,MO,LO,CM,V 34,V42b,GUUCP
    350,Hub300 Internet Gate,"Weedsport,NY",
         postmaster,315-689-7729,
         9600,CM,XA,V32b ,V42b,V34,VFC,GUUCP


    Another stealth gateway! They are good at hiding them in
    California. Perhaps the flags fell off in the last earthquake.

    4,SacUUCP,"Sacramento,CA",
         Charles Meadows,916-388-0905,
         9600,CM,V32b,V42b,VFC,V3 4,XA,
    401,Black Dragon Inn,"Worcester,MA",
         Stephen Griffin,508-791-9829,
         9600,MO,V32b,V42b,Guucp,VFC,
    5,Net352 UUCP Gateway,"Shelton,WA",
         UUCP,360-427-1759,
         9600,XA,CM,MO,V32b,V42b,GU UCP,
    5,R19 Internet Gate,"AR,LA,OK,TX",
         UUCP,918-254-6618,
         9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,GUUCP
    7008,Computer Connection BBS,"Irving,TX",
         Ben Hamilton,972-273-2614,
         9600,CM,XA,HST,V32b,V32T,V34,V42b,VFC,GUUCP,UREC


    This listing takes the cake!


    74,Net266 Internet Gate,"Vineland,NJ",
         Pab Sungenis,609-794-8907,
         9600,CM,V32b,V42b,XA,UUUCP,cnx.com,


    This is the runner up!


    7777,ADTBBS,"Phoenix,AZ",
         Aaron Thompson,602-814-9142,
         9600,CM,XA,V32,V42b,VFC,UU CP,
    9,Dehnbase,"Palo,Alto,CA",
         Joe Dehn,650-857-1209,
         9600,XC,CM,V32b,V42b,HST,GUUCP,


    This is a semi gate I guess!


    95,SSSFFF UUCP GATE,"Montreal,Qc",
         Shawn O'Connor,514-769-7546,
         9600,V34,V32b,V42b,CM,XA,,
    998,Internet Fidonet Gate,"Largo,FL",
         Ed Patterson,813-546-7985,
         9600,CM,V34,V32b,V42b,VFC,GUUCP,XA



    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 50                  20 Apr 1998

    This is a "stealth" gateway with a stealth sysop!


    998,Net 231 UUCP,"Indianapolis,IN",
         Postmaster,317-856-9020,
         9600,XA,CM,V34,V32b, V42b,



                               AND NOW ON TO ZONE 2!

    Say, what is an ENC? I looked at the boittom of nodelist.100
    to no avail. Is it a creature of some sort?


    ,235,ABC-Klubben,Bromma,
         Robert_Burgess,46-8-801523,
         9600,CM,XA,V34,H16,GUUCP,U,E NC
    ,22,R21_Fidonet/Internet_Gateway_2,Oslo,
         Torfinn_Nome,47-22053133,
         9600,V32B,V42B ,V34,VFC,XW,CM,GUUCP



    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 51                  20 Apr 1998

    AHA! More stealth gateways!


    ,208,Krypta.UUCP,Berlin,
         Alexandros_Gougousoudis,49-30-84709060,
         9600,V32B,V42B,X A,CM
    ,228,Krypta.UUCP_II_ISDN,Berlin,
         Alexandros_Gougousoudis,49-30-84709059,
         300,XA,M O,CM,U,X75,K12
    Hold,401,Thing_BBS_&_UUCP,Berlin,
         Konrad_H._Knauer,49-30-46404271,
         9600,CM,MN,XA, V32B,V34,V42B


    Say, perhaps ENC is short for Eunch?


    ,98,Network2426-Internet-Gateway,Oldenburg,
         Andreas_Braukmann,49-441-9571912,
         960 0,CM,MO,V34,GUUCP,U,ENC
    ,98,UUCP,ftg.donut.de,
         Johann_H._Addicks,49-231-9822122,
         9600,CM,MN,V42B,VFC,V34, U,V110H,X75,ENC
    ,30,UUCP_Gateway_Second_System,Essen,
         Rainer_Boesner,49-201-306904,
         9600,XA,CM,V3 4,VFC,GUUCP,U,X75
    ,25,R25_Fidonet/Demon_Internet_Gateway,London_UK,
         postmaster,44-181-343-3419,
         960 0,CM,H14,V32B,V42B,XA,GUUCP


    FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 52                  20 Apr 1998


    Another "stealth" gateway using stealth technology!


    ,49,Coastmnl/UUCP_Gateway,Prestatyn,
         John_Timmis,44-1745-354129,
         9600,XA,MO,V32B, VFC,V42B
    ,72,wolfnet.com_UUCP_Gateway,London,
         Cesare_Dieni,44-171-354-9949,
         9600,CM,MO,XA, V32B,V34,V42B,VFC,GUUCP


    Is this an "underground" gateway?


    ,6,Nemesis_UUCP_Gateway,London,
         Simon_Cansick,44-171-431-5135,
         9600,CM,XA,V32B,V4 2B,VFC,V34
    ,77,DOSgg_InterNet/UUCP,Heerde,
         Gerard_Hoijtink,31-578-692733,
         9600,XA,CM,MN,H16, V34,VFC,V32T,U,V110L,V110H,X75,ENC
    Pvt,875,Fidonet-Internet_Gateway,Mortsel,
         Wim_Van_Sebroeck,-Unpublished-,
         9600,XX ,GUUCP
    ,1,His_Master's_Voice_I-III_[OS/2],Vienna_A,
         Werner_Illsinger,43-1-600993333,
         960 0,CM,XA,H14,V32B,GUUCP
    ,800,R33_Uucp_Gate,Italy,
         Stefano_Brandimarte,39-85-4455650,
         9600,CM,MO,V34,V42B, GUUCP
    ,2000,fido.hu,Budapest_HUN,
         Krisztian_Czako,36-1-266-6426-3109,
         9600,V32B,V42B,GU UCP


    A "Bass" stealth gateway!


    s3104,BASS_UUCP,Celje,
         Zlatko_Kropf,386-63-442524,
         9600,CM,XA,ZYX,V34,U,ENC



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    A gateway with TV too boot!


    ,999,The_One_Leg_Gateway,Thessaloniki,
         Giannis_Gialamas,30-31-256393,
         9600,V34,MO ,XA,GUUCP,U,TVF
    ,128,R46_fido<->uucp_gate,Kiev_Ukraine,
         GateMaster,380-44-2711881,
         9600,CM,XA,V32 B,V42B,GUUCP


    A gateway without, but a different day of the week I guess.


    ,10,Fido<->Internet_gate,Donetsk,
         Alik_Trakhtman,380-622-923513,
         9600,V34,V32B,V4 2B,MO,GUUCP,U,ENC,TUE
    Pvt,128,Internet<->N5025_Fidonet_Gateway,Voronezh,
         Andy_Igoshin,-Unpublished-,
         96 00,MO,GUUCP


    More stealth technology


    ,375,BugBoard_UUCP_Gateway,Wellington,
         Kevin_Sartorelli,64-4-526-4840,
         9600,V32b, V42b,MO,XA
    ,9,fidour.fidonet.org,Montevideo,
         Juan_Carlos_Alonso,598-2-4099754,
         9600,XA,CM,V3 2B,V34,V42b,MNP,Guucp


    This sysops *C structure just can't read the playbook. They
    must be retired soccer players (too many headers) I guess.

    ,100,BBS_ModemVizio_Fido_Internet_Gateway,Villa_Alemana,
         UUCP,56-32-53-2969,
         9600 ,V32b,V42b,XA,FAX,CM
    ,500,Internet_Gate,Port_Elizabeth_RSA,
         Henk_Wolsink,27-41-515913,
         9600,CM,H16,V32 b,V32t,VFC,V34,V42b,XA,GUUCP
    ,2,The_Catalyst,Port_Elizabeth,
         Henk_Wolsink,27-41-515913,
         9600,CM,H16,V32b,V32t, V34,VFC,V42b,XA,GUUCP,UNEC

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      Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

      Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (in French)

      Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (in Swiss?)

      Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)

      Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (in Spanish)
          REC34:  http://pobox.com/~chr

      Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

      Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

      Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)

      Region 48:  http://www.fidonet.org.pl

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    Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

    ============

    Zone 4:       (not yet listed)

      Region 90:
        Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)

    ============

    Zone 5:       http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

    ============

    Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org

      Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)

    ============

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                          FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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    ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

    Editor: Zorch Frezberg

    Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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    back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSFnn.ZIP] for a
    particular Issue.  Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
    where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
    current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.

    Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
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    You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

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    STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
    Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:

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    Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
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    for that year's issues.  The total set is currently about 13 Megs.

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    available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
    homepage on the World Wide Web at:

                 http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html

    There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
    to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
    link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.

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    IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area X.  It
    is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
    Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.

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        or something to amuse ourselves
        and create the requisite chaos."
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