F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 6 9 February 1998

F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 6 9 February 1998
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Time for ANOTHER FIDOCON?

Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
ZEC1 Election still going, and going, and going .......... 1
2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
More about Argus IP mailer ............................... 2
REC10 change of Coordinator .............................. 2
Don sez it's time for a REAL FidoCon! .................... 3
Correspondent seeking FidoNet information ................ 4
Region 13 webpage changes and NLTools available .......... 5
REC13 correction ......................................... 5
Jim Smoot speaks about ZEC1 election ..................... 6
Looking for a few good contacts? ......................... 6
3. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 9
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 037 ...... 9
4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 10
Updated Computer Acronyms ................................ 10
5. NOTICES .................................................. 12
Future History ........................................... 12
FidoNet via Internet Hubs ................................ 12
6. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 14
FidoNews PGP public-key listing .......................... 14
7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 15
8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 17
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EDITORIAL
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Some more ZEC1 election stuff this week. The voting is on for another
week, I believe.

Don Bach says we should start planning another FidoCon. His note is
below. Remember when FidoCon was just a bunch of FidoNet Sysops and
not some corporate excuse for coach air travel?

There's a guy looking for input about FidoNet for an article he's
writing. The details follow twice. [grin]

Region 13 has changed some of their web addresses.

Got to go now. I smell my barbecue burning in the kitchen.

C.B.

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Thu Feb 05 23:32:10 1998

From: David Moufarrege @ 1:2613/404
To: Christopher Baker @ 1:18/14
Date: 02 Feb 98 23:43:34
Subj: Argus and TCP/IP Mailers

Hello Christopher,

I am referring to the letter by Damien Sam referencing the ARGUS IP
mailer. Argus is already widely in use in Zones 1, 2 and 3 since it
can provide both IP and standard Fidonet functionality. On the
traditional Fidonet side it can communicate with any Fidonet mailer
such as InterMail and Bink. On the Fidonet/ IP side it communicates
using three options:

1. other Argus mailers;
2. mailers running under OS/2's VModem; and
3. mailers using the new BinkD add-on module, which is available for a
number of platforms such as several Unix-variants, OS/2, etc.

While Argus may only be a Windows95/NT solution there are compatible
solutions available for just about any platform which makes this
viable for use in Fidonet.

In Region 13 we have a number of IP nodes up and running using this
technology. I personally am running 1:2613/403 at kraut.dyn.ml.org on
a part-time basis from 9:15GMT to 11:00GMT daily. David Calafrancesco,
a current Z1EC candidate, is running 1:2624/306 at bbs.drakkar.org as
a CM node on port 23. Another node is Dennis Murphy at 1:2630/316, who
is running his node at IP address 130.68. 232.11 The number of nodes
reachable via IP-Mailer is growing daily.

The Zone 1 Regional Coordinators Council has discussed flags for IP
Nodes and a decision on this matter is still pending.

Best Regards,

-=David=-

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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Sun Feb 08 18:36:26 1998

From: Bob Kohl @ 1:102/861
To: Christopher Baker @ 1:18/14
Date: 07 Feb 98 23:01:32
Subj: Re: REC 10

Per my position statement early on in the election:
FIDONEWS 15-06 Page 3 9 Feb 1998

> * Originally to Bob Satti in NETMAIL.

> CC: David Hallford

> Bob,

> This is official notice that David Hallford is to assume the
> duties of REC 10 until such time as I can ascertain a "sense"
> of Reg 10 towards this position.

> David's flags are:

> ,1,Net_208_NEC,Modesto_CA,David_Hallford,1-209-544-2532,9600,XA,
> CM,MO,V32b,V42b,V34

> Please put David in as of this week's diff. My thanks as always
> for your help on this matter.

> BK

> Origin: Conniption BBS * One fit at a time * (1:102/861)

> Forwarded by Bob Kohl on 1:102/861, Conniption BBS in Los Angeles CA

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--- Following message extracted from FIDONEWS @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Sun Feb 08 18:37:04 1998

From: Don Bach
To: Michele Stewart
Date: 07 Feb 98 18:50:08
Subj: Kiss It Goodbye - Said Well!

> Really NICE reply, .\\ichele, really nice. Couldn't have said it
> anywhere near as good as you did...

[rereply stuff deleted]

I think it is time for another FidoCon.... Chris Baker, can you
publish something asking for interest? I can set up hosting it here
in Jackson, if no one else will.

[other irrelevant stuff deleted]

Don
NC 3632

Origin: No Regrets, Clinton, MS (601)924-8247 9P-5A (1:3632/65)

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[Please send your responses directly to the author's email address.
He is not a regular reader of FidoNews. ED.]

Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 01:19:58 -0500
From: David Noack <[email protected]>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Seeking FidoNet Comments

Christopher,

My name is David Noack and I'm a computer correspondent for Investor's
Business Daily , a national business newspaper.

I'm doing a story about what has long been forgotten or maybe even
never considered by the general online public and that's FidoNet.
While it came along after the Internet was developed-but before the
Internet got much use by the general public even in those old Unix-
dial-up account days, FidoNet came along in the mid-1980s.

In a way FidoNet parallels the problems faced by the Internet and the
World Wide Web, which obviously has a greater marketing campaign and
pretty cheap access for what you can do online.

Anyway, I would like to get some comments from FidoNet users, Zone,
Net and Hub coordinators, in addition to folks who simply use FidoNet
because they like it.

Here are some questions for your consideration and feel to add any
other comments regarding the story.

How long have you been using FidoNet. What do you use FidoNet for. How
many different ways can someone use FidoNet. To send mail, which is
Netmail; discussion groups, which are called Echo Mail, and I would
guess file transfer. Are there any commercial uses to Fidonet by a
business, maybe even a home-based or small business or has everything
migrated to the Internet.

What are some of the advantages/disadvantages in using FidoNet?

How does it differ and where is it similar to the Internet?

Is FidoNet considered network/BBS system for real computer hobbyists
and enthusiasts? Does anyone connect to dial-up local BBSes anymore?
Has FidoNet and BBSes fallen on hard times thanks to the Internet or
is that perception wrong. Has there been any growth in the number of
FidoNet users.

Can you provide some examples of how you use FidoNet? What do you do.
Do you use it for work or just at home?

Are there any estimates as to how many people use FidoNet? Or maybe to
be more accurate, how many nodes there are around the world and from
that figure you can assume that there maybe hundreds of people who
connect to that particular bulletin board.

FIDONEWS 15-06 Page 5 9 Feb 1998

Why is FidoNet not that well-known? It is conscious effort to keep it
in the realm of computer hobbyists so it does not become too cluttered
as the Internet has become?

Since FidoNet was originally tied to BBS's, how has FidoNet adopted to
take advantage of the Internet?

If you can, please provide as many examples of how FidoNet gets used
and if you think I should ask someone else questions, can you kindly
include their name and e-mail address.

I look forward to hearing from you.

David Noack
Investor's Business Daily
[email protected]
[email protected]

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 16:57:14 -0500
From: David Moufarrege <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Region 13 Homepage

Hi Christopher,

Region 13 Home Page is down... a new site is planned. On the bright
site, Net 2613's site, maintained by NC2613 John Rooker is up with
sound and pictures at www.ggw.org/net2613. Verifications:
[email protected]

I also have posted the nodelist maintenance utility NLTOOLS by David
Nugent on my web site for download: home.eznet.net/~david/download.htm
NLTOOLS is intended as a replacement for MakeNL, source code
available, and is year 2000 compatible.

--
David M. Moufarrege
Systems Engineer
e-mail: [email protected]
[email protected]

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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Thu Feb 05 23:32:43 1998

From: David Moufarrege @ 1:2613/404
To: Christopher Baker @ 1:18/14
Date: 02 Feb 98 23:52:01
FIDONEWS 15-06 Page 6 9 Feb 1998

Subj: Correction

Hello Christopher,

For historical correctness, this is a correction to a statement Bob
Kohl made with regard to past REC13s:

Jim Balcom, the current REC13, was preceded by David Calafrancesco.
David's predecessor was Jerry Seward, not Rick Ashworth.

Best Regards,

- David Moufarrege, RC13

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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Thu Feb 05 23:31:34 1998

* Forwarded from "Zone 1 Elections"
* Originally by Lisa Smoot, 1:395/602
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 2 Feb 1998, 20:42

For those of you who may not know me, my name is Lisa Smoot and I am
Jim Smoot's youngest daughter. As many of you may already be aware, my
Dad has a terminal illness and in the last few weeks his health has
not been doing very well at all. For those interested, my Dad is up
and about for very short periods of time but medical conditions demand
low stress and lots of rest.

None the less, my Dad has always enjoyed his hobby and has asked that
I post this message: "If we can get beyond the _personality_ issues
and conflict and put our hobby into perspective, then it becomes much
easier to see and support the best of the available candidates for
ZEC. In my opinion, Bob Kohl is the right man for the task. Your
support would also be appreciated."

Thanks Bunches,

(: Lisa Deanne :)

---
* Origin: S.R.O., Copperas Cove, TX (1:395/602)

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 01:55:55 -0800
From: Zorch Frezberg <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: ZorchLand!
To: Zorch Frezberg <[email protected]>
Subject: Request for assistance

FIDONEWS 15-06 Page 7 9 Feb 1998

I've been contacted by a reporter/editor of a magazine with regards to
FidoNet. This person is not known to me personally, but I've
researched and verified that this person is indeed legitimate. Others
may also have been contacted, so I may be just posting this out for no
good reason.

The reason I'm contacting you via 'blind cc' is to get your permission
to send your E-mail address to this reporter for an 'on-line'
interview. The publication that this is for made me sit up and pay
close attention to this message, and make certain that it was a
legitimate request before I sent this out to you. It's not the WALL
STREET JOURNAL, TIME or NEWSWEEK, but it's about as good as any of
those.

As well, if you have the E-mail address of someone that you feel may
be able to speak to these issues better, or should be included in any
list, please forward the address to me, and I will contact them as
well.

This is the extract of the message, containing the questions that I
know will be asked...there may be others which come out of your
responses, no doubt::

> I'm doing a story about what has long been forgotten or maybe even
> never considered by the general online public and that's FidoNet.
> While it came along after the Internet was developed-but before the
> Internet got much use by the general public even in those old Unix-
> dial-up account days, FidoNet came along in the mid-1980s.
>
> In a way FidoNet parallels the problems faced by the Internet and
> the World Wide Web, which obviously has a greater marketing campaign
> and pretty cheap access for what you can do online.
>
> Anyway, I would like to get some comments from FidoNet users, Zone,
> Net and Hub coordinators, in addition to folks who simply use
> FidoNet because they like it.
>
> Here are some questions for your consideration and feel to add any
> other comments regarding the story.
>
> How long have you been using FidoNet. What do you use FidoNet for.
> How many different ways can someone use FidoNet. To send mail, which
> is Netmail; discussion groups, which are called Echo Mail, and I
> would guess file transfer. Are there any commercial uses to Fidonet
> by a business, maybe even a home-based or small business or has
> everything migrated to the Internet.
>
> What are some of the advantages/disadvantages in using FidoNet?
>
> How does it differ and where is it similar to the Internet?
>
> Is FidoNet considered network/BBS system for real computer hobbyists
> and enthusiasts? Does anyone connect to dial-up local BBSes anymore?
> Has FidoNet and BBSes fallen on hard times thanks to the Internet or
> is that perception wrong. Has there been any growth in the number of
> FidoNet users.
FIDONEWS 15-06 Page 8 9 Feb 1998

>
> Can you provide some examples of how you use FidoNet? What do you
> do. Do you use it for work or just at home?
>
> Are there any estimates as to how many people use FidoNet? Or maybe
> to be more accurate, how many nodes there are around the world and
> from that figure you can assume that there maybe hundreds of people
> who connect to that particular bulletin board.
>
> Why is FidoNet not that well-known? It is conscious effort to keep
> it in the realm of computer hobbyists so it does not become too
> cluttered as the Internet has become?
>
> Since FidoNet was originally tied to BBS's, how has FidoNet adopted
> to take advantage of the Internet?
>
> If you can, please provide as many examples of how FidoNet gets used
> and if you think I should ask someone else questions, can you kindly
> include their name and e-mail address.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you.

The reason I'm interested in helping this reporter is that the
reporter is grounded in computers and electronic communication. .
. pretty much, no bluffing or posturing is going to get past without
being noticed.

The message came to me Friday, and I'm informed that the reporter
would like to have responses by next week (this coming Friday, at the
latest).

I'm fighting a combination of the "Killer Flu" and strep throat, and
for some reason, my eyes are clogging up as well, so I wasn't able to
respond to the reporter other than to "give me a day or two to be able
to see"....and to give me time to contact you as well as formulate a
response.

Go for it. Let me know ASAP so I can send the E-Mail addresses out,
as well as contact those whose addresses you might send me. I can't
guarantee the reporter will contact all of those I send, but we'll try
and get a good mention, nonetheless.

Thanks, and hope to hear from you all.

-zf-

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COORDINATORS CORNER
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 037
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
ZC/2

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NET HUMOR
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From: "Mike Riddle" <[email protected]>
To: "Baker, Christopher" <[email protected] (Christopher Baker)>
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 98 10:57:39 -0600
Reply-To: "Mike Riddle" <[email protected]>
Subject: Fwd: Updated Computer Acronyms (fwd)

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE==================

Updated Computer Acronyms
------- -------- --------

PCMCIA People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms

ISDN It Still Does Nothing

APPLE Arrogance Produces Profit-Losing Entity

SCSI System Can't See It

DOS Defective Operating System

BASIC Bill's Attempt to Seize Industry Control

IBM I Blame Microsoft

DEC Do Expect Cuts

CD-ROM Consumer Device, Rendered Obsolete in Months

OS/2 Obsolete Soon, Too.

WWW World Wide Wait

MACINTOSH Most Applications Crash; If Not, The Operating System
Hangs

PENTIUM Produces Erroneous Numbers Through Incorrect
Understanding of Mathematics

COBOL Completely Obsolete Business Oriented Language

AMIGA A Merely Insignificant Game Addiction

LISP Lots of Infuriating & Silly Parenthesis

MIPS Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed

WINDOWS Will Install Needless Data On Whole System

GIRO Garbage In Rubbish Out

MICROSOFT Most Intelligent Customers Realize Our Software Only
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Fools Teenagers

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and some old ones for the old-timers

In the IBM 360 days, there were a lot of instruction opcode
acronyms going around. There were ones like:

HCF Halt and Catch Fire

JCT Jump Conditional Tuesday

and my very favorite:

RDI Reverse Drum Immediate

Brings to mind a tall skinny cabinet
spinning like a top on one corner across
the machine room...

===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================

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NOTICES
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Future History

30 Apr 1998
Queens Day, Holland.

17 May 1998
Independence Day, Norway.

22 May 1998
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.

14 Sep 1998
Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

22 Sep 1998
First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

1 Dec 1998
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
Tom Jennings.

24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Tue Feb 03 00:12:53 1998

From: C. Ingersoll @ 1:2623/71
To: Editor @ 1:1/23
Date: 01 Feb 98 02:12:40
Subj: Fidonet via Internet Hubs
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
1:101/204 | Patrick Rosenheim | TX | 33.6 | $25yr.
1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton | FTP,VMoT,TX,F2I| 64k | $10/$20mo.
1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | F2I | ??? | $2mo.
1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,TX | T1 | unkn
1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP | ??? | $1mo.
1:2424/3121| Earl Clark | TX | 33.6 | n/c
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | 33.6 | $15yr.
1:2651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,TX | ??? | unkn
1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,TX | T1 | $10mo.
1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler | TX,UUE,F2I | 33.6 | n/c
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP | T1 | $15mo.
2:252/358 | Sean Rima | VMoT | T1 | n/c
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | TX, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | TX | 64k | unkn
2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy | F2I | ??? | n/c
3:774/950 | Craig Box | UUE, F2I | 28.8 | n/c
--
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* F2I = Fido2Int (W95)
* UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers
* TX = TransX (Proprietary uuencode<->email packet transfer
software)

compiled by Cindy Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978,
[email protected] Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP,
R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
---
Origin: * Fly By Night * (609)814-1978 *(1:2623/71)

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File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] or download it from the
Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 anytime except 0100-0130 ET and Zone
1 ZMH at 1200-9600+ HST/V32B. The FidoNews key is also available on
the FidoNews homepage listed in the Masthead information.

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
of this appearance.

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FidoNet:

Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html
HTML FNews http://www.fidonews.org
WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
FTSC page http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/ftsc.htm
Echomail http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html

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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org

Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

Region 13: http://www.ggw.org/net2613/

Region 14: [disappeared?]

Region 15: [disappeared?]

Region 16: http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm

Region 17: http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
REC17: http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/

Region 18: http://www.citicom.com/fido.html

Region 19: http://www.compconn.net

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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org

ZEC2: http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/

Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)

Region 25:
http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254

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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (in French)

Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (in Swiss)

Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)

Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (in Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr

Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)

Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl

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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

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Zone 4: (not yet listed)

Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)

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Zone 5: http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org

Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)

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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

Editor: Christopher Baker

Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees

"FidoNews Editor"
FidoNet 1:1/23
BBS 1-904-409-7040, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(ds)

more addresses:
Christopher Baker -- 1:18/14, [email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 471
Edgewater, FL 32132-0471
U.S.A.

voice: 1-904-409-3040 [1400-2100 ET only, please]
[1800-0100 UTC/GMT]

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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
FidoNews.

Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
Copyright 1998 Christopher Baker. All rights reserved. Duplication
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
the Editor.

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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
FIDONEWS 15-06 Page 18 9 Feb 1998

back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSFnn.ZIP] for a
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.

Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
1 - 15 for 1984 - 1998, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
size from 48K to 1.4M.

INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:

http://www.fidonews.org
http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/

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You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:

[email protected]

with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist

and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the email
distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist with no
message to the same address above.

*

You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
by sending email to:

[email protected]

with a Subject line of: help

and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
www.fidonews.org.

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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

http://www.fidonews.org

STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:

ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/

Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
FIDONEWS 15-06 Page 19 9 Feb 1998

for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.

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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
available almost immediately after publication on the Editor's new
homepage on the World Wide Web at:

http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html

There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.

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A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
1:1/23 [1:18/14] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area 18. It
is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.

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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.

"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
and are used with permission.

"Disagreement is actually necessary,
or we'd all have to get in fights
or something to amuse ourselves
and create the requisite chaos."
-Tom Jennings

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