F I D O N E W S --         Volume 13, Number 31            29 July 1996
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                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
       How does FidoNews get around?  ............................  1
    2. ARTICLES  .................................................  2
       DESCENT on the Z1 Backbone - your help is needed  .........  2
       Making Fidonet Perform  ...................................  2
       The Start of Something Good?  .............................  8
       Alt.Religions.Scientology - cult spams the network  .......  9
       ECROC:  Good, Bad, or Ugly  ............................... 13
       Zone 7 Flame will get international now ?  ................ 15
    3. FIDONET HISTORY  .......................................... 17
       FidoNet History  20 Aug 85 [Part 2 of 3]  ................. 17
    4. COORDINATORS CORNER  ...................................... 22
       Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 208  ...... 22
    5. NET HUMOR  ................................................ 23
       FidoNews of the Past with Olympic fever?  ................. 23
       A different kind of "Dear John [Mary]" letter?  ........... 25
    6. QUESTION OF THE WEEK  ..................................... 27
       Who's got the News?  ...................................... 27
    7. NOTICES  .................................................. 28
       Future History  ........................................... 28
       Notice to UK Contributors  ................................ 28
    8. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY  ...................................... 30
    9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 31
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                                EDITORIAL
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    According to FidoNet Policy, FidoNews is supposed to be part of the
    'glue' that holds us together as a Network.  It is also supposed to
    be 'made available' to all Nodes by their respective FidoNet
    Coordinators [ZC to RC to NC to Node].

    Back in the 'dim time', we used to DELIVER the weekly files to our
    Nodes if they were local calls and hold them if they were long
    distance calls.  In the dim time most Nodes were local to their NC
    and we didn't have these megaNets with many LD Nodes in their
    structure.  Even those, however, usually are broken down into Hubs
    that are local to NC and hubbed Nodes.

    So WHY isn't FidoNews being delivered to the local Nodes?  Every Node
    in FidoNet should be receiving this weekly update of life and doings
    in our Network.  It's tough to be the 'glue' if the cap never gets
    off of the bottle.

    I'm calling upon all FidoNet Coordinators to get FidoNews back into
    FULL FidoNet distribution to ALL Nodes.  FidoNews relies on the
    contributions from the Sysops of FidoNet.  We are unlikely to get such
    submissions if many Nodes either don't know about FidoNews [how did
    that happen?] or don't receive it every week from their Coordinator or
    Hub. It is the FidoNet Policy-dictated responsibility of EVERY FidoNet
    Coordinator to get the NODEDIFF and the FidoNews to the Nodes under
    their coordination.  You Coordinators volunteered for this job when
    you signed on so how about getting with it?

    If you Coordinators have any excuses for why FidoNews isn't getting
    out to your Nodes, please send it in to FidoNews as an .ART file for
    the next issue.  I'd be interested in the alibis. [grin]

    I'm also interested in how FidoNews gets outside of Zone 1.

    Thanks.
                      C.B.

      NOTE: Another reminder that FIDONEWS Echo is now on the Zone 1
            Backbone.  Areafix it from your local Echomail source and
            join us there for discussion and announcements as well as
            being able to send in articles for FidoNews via the Echo.

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                                ARTICLES
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    Descent - A New Echo for those who are hopelessly addicted
    Moderated by Jim Sorofty 1:243/75

    We are attempting to have a new echo added to the backbone and your
    help is urgently needed. The Descent Players Echo (DESCENT) is a
    place to discuss all aspects of Descent I & Descent II. It is a
    place to meet players close to you and from around the world.

    All of the criteria for having this echo added to backbone
    distribution have been satisfied. Within the next three weeks the
    backbone coordinators will be voting on whether or not this echo
    area will be carried. Your help is needed to ensure that your
    Regional Echomail Coordinator knows that +you+ are interested in
    receiving this area. Please take a few moments to netmail your REC
    (with a copy to me at 1:243/75) informing them of your desire to
    carry the DESCENT echo and asking that they support its addition in
    the upcoming vote.

    I am confident that we have the support of REC12 and according to
    the guidelines, one more REC's vote (two would be nice) is needed
    to accomplish our goal. Please don't delay. If enough support for
    this echo is not received to list the echo this time around, the
    idea will be dropped.

    Thank you for your time, consideration and help. I hope to see you
    in the DESCENT Echo soon.

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    Making Fidonet Perform
    Damian Walker, 2:2502/666

    It may appear to some people that Fidonet has an identity crisis.
    Many people regard Fidonet as a collection of BBS's.  Some people see
    Fidonet as a number of echoes.  Others insist that Fidonet has nothing
    to do with echoes or BBS's.  So what is Fidonet?
        In this article I will take a look at existing opinions about what
    Fidonet is, look at what it can really do, and muse upon where it
    might be going.

        Is Fidonet a collection of BBS's?  Some people seem to think so.
    There is certainly a strong connection between Fidonet and BBS's, if
    only because Fidonet actually did start out as a collection of linked
    BBS's.
        A printed magazine here in the UK has a limited coverage of
    Fidonet, and their early articles showed this link between Fidonet and
    BBS's quite plainly, with Fidonet and BBS's being regarded as one and
    the same thing.  They even used the nodelist as a basis for their BBS
    directory!
        The view of Fidonet as an association of BBS's seems to be found
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    with people who run BBS's, and also people who have little to do with
    Fidonet or data communications at all.
        Is Fidonet all about echoes?  A lot of people think so.  When
    people are talking about Fidonet as a 'friendly' place, especially
    when comparing it with the Internet, it is more often than not a
    comparison between Usenet newsgroups and Fidonet echoes.
        It is true that the main concern of many sysops as Fidonet nodes
    is centred upon the availability of echomail.  Isn't that why most of
    them obtained their node number?  Whether it is a personal interest in
    reading echomail, or an indirect way of attracting users to a BBS,
    echomail seems to hold the central key.
        So why do people say that Fidonet has little to do with either?
    This seems a political or technical concern rather than a statement of
    the principal use or capability of Fidonet.  Fidonet is defined by the
    nodelist, nothing more.
        A node may exist which takes no echomail; perhaps they just wish
    to make some files available for request.  A node may definitely exist
    and function without a BBS-- my own system testifies to this.
    However, this minor digression masks the main purpose of this article,
    which is to take Fidonet as a whole rather than looking for exceptions
    to the norm.

        So, what can Fidonet do?  We've already seen two uses: Linking
    BBS's and providing echomail.  However, there are some other things
    which are currently going on, which are connected with neither: files
    and games, for instance.  Let's take a quick look at some of the
    capabilities of this network.
        BBS's are an obvious place to start, and need no explanation here.
    They provide an easy interface for beginners to many of the other
    things available in Fidonet.  Even long-standing comms enthusiasts
    find the BBS interface a comfortable way of accessing Fidonet.
        Echomail should need no introduction either.  Most networks and
    on-line services provide some form of conference mail, be it Fidonet,
    the Internet, Compuserve or some other proprietary bulletin board
    system.  Conference mail is the principal means of communicating with
    others in most networks, and in Fidonet it remains the most often used
    medium for advertising activities and services (such as BBS's, echoes
    and things non-comms related).
        Games are another popular use of Fidonet.  I'm not just thinking
    of door games here, most of which could be regarded as an integral
    part of a BBS.  There are, however, some games which offer inter-BBS
    connectivity between BBS's, and these are of more interest to us in
    our guise as Fidonet enthusiasts (rather than BBS sysops).
        Other games of interest are the PBM (play-by-mail) games which are
    played on the Internet, and to a lesser extent, on Fidonet.  Many
    games players will have heard of VGA Planets, specifically designed
    for PBM.  Stars! is another example of this type of game.
        Fidonet provides not only an excellent way of exchanging the game
    data for these games, but also (through echomail) a means of finding
    opponents. The same holds true of most games providing a play-by-mail
    option.  The only thing we are currently lacking is a game which
    supports Fidonet directly, although many utilities are available for
    one of the games already mentioned, to allow automatic interface with
    a BBS.
        Bulletins are something which are increasingly making use of
    Fidonet technology.  'Bulletins' is probably the least used section of
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    most BBS's, and yet this is sometimes the most direct and appropriate
    way to offer information to users.  Bulletins are invaluable for
    specialist systems who could offer information on their chosen
    interest.
        As well as being an option or section on most BBS's, bulletins are
    now being increasingly offered across the network, via netmail.  Take
    a look at my article in last week's Fidonews for one example of this.
    This allows hobbyists to share information on a one-to-one basis with
    each other no matter which BBS they regularly call, wherever they live
    in the world.  Bulletins can also be distributed using regular file
    request availability (as with ARTSPEC).
        File echoes are a way of distributing files in Fidonet, and
    provide a facility much like the 'ftp' mirrors on the Internet,
    ensuring that the latest versions of files related to a certain
    subject or product are available at a number of sites.
        That sums up all the broad categories of use in Fidonet which I
    can think of at the time of writing (if I've left anything out, be
    sure to write to FidoNews and tell us about it!)

        But what of the future?  With the shrinking of the nodelist, the
    future is something which we need to look at with more cognitive
    effort than before.  We really need to think of something if our part
    of the data communications hobby isn't to be taken from us by the
    increasing popularity of other communications systems.  The reasons
    why people are leaving Fidonet is beyond the scope of this article,
    but further development of various aspects of the network can help to
    keep it alive, and perhaps to even grow once again, if chosen
    carefully.
        BBS's are Fidonet's first contact with most people.  With their
    simple software and hardware requirements, and often an easy-to-use
    menu interface, they are already an ideal way to introduce new users
    to the wonders of Fidonet.
        How can they be improved?  Aesthetics is one way people have tried
    to improve BBS usage.  Some people take advantage of increasing
    communications speeds by making their ANSI menus pretty with colour
    and animation.  Others take advantage of the increasing use of GUI's
    to provide a graphical interface, sometimes using HTML in the
    interests of standardisation.  Some might say that this is just
    pandering to those who need pretty colours to keep their attention.
    But perhaps this forms the majority of new users, who are not easily
    attracted by technical details and a 'quaint' hobbyist atmosphere.
    Who knows?  Improving the visual effect of our interface is certainly
    one way to go.
        General ease of use is another step towards improving BBS's.  Some
    people have suggested a way of standardising the BBS interface,
    although few if any BBS's have followed these concepts through (if you
    know of an instance where standardisation across BBS's has worked, it
    may make an interesting article for FidoNews, hint hint).  Although it
    has been said that this approach will lose the individuality of BBS's,
    standardisation of keypresses along with individuality of screen
    design might provide a suitable compromise.
        Next we move on to echomail.  How can this be improved?  Although
    many people see echomail's friendliness as an advantage in its own
    right, there have still been many suggestions for improvement (as an
    aside, I wonder how many people promoting Fidonet's friendliness read
    sysop echoes).
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        Some people would like to see the universal acceptance of high
    ASCII.  This is a controversial point, as although this would allow
    accented characters and pretty 'graphical' signatures, there are a
    number of disadvantages.  Even leaving the point that some machines
    cannot cope reliably with 8-bit ASCII characters, there is not yet a
    network-wide standard for these characters, meaning users of different
    platforms still see different characters.  Possible future
    developments in this direction are many and varied, and too numerous
    to go into detail about here.
        Moderation is definitely an advantage to build on.  Views on
    methods of appointing conference moderators, and actually performing
    moderation duties, vary considerably, and so it would be nice to see
    coherent approaches and methods of moderation which would satisfy the
    reason of having moderators (to keep echoes on topic and legal) whilst
    keeping the disadvantages (of despotic moderators from hell) to a
    minimum.  Perhaps technical improvements giving moderators and
    echomail co-ordinators more control over echomail and echolists is
    something which could be considered.
        Areas of Fidonet other than BBS's and echomail, which are already
    fairly well developed, provide the most scope for improvement.
        Games form a large part of BBS and Fidonet use, probably taking
    third place to files and echomail.  There are a great many 'door'
    games for BBS's available, which although less visually attractive
    than stand-alone games, offer a level of interaction between players
    which is difficult to surpass-- especially given the hardware platform
    requirements of such games.
        Many door games could be much improved if a link to other BBS's
    was added; some door games already work this way.  Thus, if a BBS only
    has a handful of players interested in a game, these players could
    join with those on another BBS to give a much more exciting
    competition.  Games which already work in this way have a large number
    of enthusiastic players who already possess the hardware to play Doom,
    Quake and other visually exciting games-- thus is their appeal.
        There are many other games which are played using Fidonet
    technology which are not door games, as has been mentioned.  Few of
    these interface directly to Fidonet, so their use and sysop appeal
    could be much more widespread if interfaces to standard netmail (for
    file attach of their game files) were developed.  Interfacing with
    Fidonet netmail is no great task for a competent programmer-- if I
    managed it then anybody can!
        Something I would personally like to see in Fidonet is the
    existence of games in the traditional PBM style.  Such games usually
    communicate from host to players in straight text; the traditional PBM
    game is played on paper, with orders sent to the host via snailmail,
    typed into the automated host, and results are printed on paper.  The
    electronic equivalent uses email for the purpose, with players sending
    their orders to the host using text-adventure style commands.
        I have not seen any games of this type available in Fidonet, which
    is a pity.  They are very popular on the Internet, and some games have
    attracted so much interest that there are waiting lists for
    prospective players! A major hurdle to the production of this type of
    game is the size of routed netmail (the Galaxy PBM generates upto 40k
    per message). However, the use of direct (crash or hold) netmail for
    larger messages would help in this respect, as would drastic economies
    in the size of the game's output.  The C source code for some Internet
    PBM games are available; if anyone is interested in obtaining them for
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    porting to Fidonet then let me know via netmail.
        Bulletins are another area in Fidonet which leaves a great deal of
    room for improvement.  Being the developer of a document server
    myself, I am loathe to suggest too many ideas on the technical side
    lest someone asks me to put my money where my mouth is, so to speak.
        However, using existing technology there is much that could be
    done to improve the use and availability of bulletins on a
    network-wide basis.  The advertising of bulletins in echomail is one
    way to alert people to information available, although this begs the
    question, why not just post the bulletin into the echo.  Where a
    bulletin is too large or too regularly updated for a regular echo
    posting, however, this approach is quite acceptable-- providing you
    advertise in a suitable echo!  Advertising a bulletin in FidoNews
    could be a good idea too (see my article in FidoNews 1330).  Time will
    tell whether this way actually works.
        Another route to the increased promotion and use of bulletins is
    co-operation between the bulletins' authors (remember, they don't all
    have to be sysops).  For instance if two BBS's in different parts of a
    country, or the world, have the same speciality, the bulletin of one
    system could refer users to the other, and vice versa.  As such
    documents become more widespread it may be a good idea to make sure
    you refer to at least one other document of interest in each of your
    own documents; if this becomes more widespread then in turn you will
    find other people's documents referring to your own.

        It is a popular opinion that some sort of improvement is necessary
    to guarantee the survival of Fidonet, and thus the survival of
    free-of-charge communications on a world-wide scale.  I hope that this
    article has provided food for thought, especially to those of you who,
    before now, regarded Fidonet as merely a collection of BBS's or a
    method of transferring conference mail.  Because the basic Fidonet
    standard concerns itself only with the nodelist, and the transfer of
    netmail and of any type of file, it is clear that Fidonet can be much,
    much more.

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    * 10 cents a Dance

    10 cents a Dance
    by Michele Stewart, 1:369/21

    Okay, okay... so this article is not really about dancing. But it is
    about some of the best echos in Fidonet. <grin> I moderate three
    really exciting echos I'd like to tell you about. Let me start with
    the first, and one of the oldest. Started in 1989, this echo is for
    the computer nerd in all of us...

    PC_ADDICT Echo
    --------------

                GEEK ALERT!   GEEK ALERT!  GEEK ALERT!

    If you are on your computer for more than 4 hours a day, outside of
    your work hours, then you've got a minor problem and probable PC
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    Addiction. But if you think your computer is your best friend, you've
    got a serious problem and probable Geek infestation!

    To get rid of those cumbersome, tiresome, boring, repetetive, anal
    retentive geeks, you need to write intelligent, thought provoking,
    humorous messages to other PC Addicts.

    Remember:

    Your computer is NOT your best friend. She only provides you the
    means to making alot of them.

    Your computer is NOT better than a date. She only provides you with
    the means for actually meeting someone strange enough to want to go
    out with you.

    Your computer is NOT your whole life. She only provides you with the
    means to expand your interests and share your hopes, dreams, likes and
    dislikes with real people.

    Now, get rid of those annoying, pesky geeks and come join us in
    lively discussion, fun banter and social intercoursing (no that's not
    a dirty word) in the PC-ADDICT echo! The only place where you can
    complain about your addiction and perpetuate it at the same time!
    <hysterical laughter echoing down corridor>

    Areaname: PC_ADDICT
    Distribution: BACKBONE

                            -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Okay, now on to the next echo which is another of my favorites...

                            -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    BBSCON Echo
    -----------

    If you're attending, thinking of attending or just interested in any
    BBS Convention or trade show, then there's a backbone echo you can
    join to find or share the latest info. It's a place for keeping each
    other informed of who's going where, what's going on, where to write
    for more info, who's joining in a convoy, who's flying, etc., ad
    nauseum.

    With the demise of Cyber.Xpo.96 and the change in focus of One BBSCon
    to One ISPCon, many of us dialup BBS system operators are feeling left
    out of the loop with no where to go. Small Regional conventions and
    gatherings, as well as other trade shows are still being discussed
    though.

    Information about the conventions, hotels, day trips, BOF get
    togethers, special events and everything else can be posted here.
    We're not worried about redundant postings either so you are
    encouraged to share something that you might have read elsewhere.

    Discussion of all BBS related conventions, whether professional or
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    amateur, is welcome in the echo. If you are planning a mini-con for
    your area, you're welcome to discuss it here.

    If interested please consider linking up and sharing this echo with
    your users as well as fellow sysops.

      AREANAME:      BBSCON
      DISTRIBUTION:  BACKBONE

                            -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    And lastly, a new echo, still awaiting backbone status but of
    importance to all of us as sysops and people concerned with making the
    online experience even better!

                            -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    AOP Echo
    --------

    The Association of Online Professionals is YOUR Association and now
    they've got an echo.

    The conference is dedicated to issues that affect the management and
    maintenance of online services.  Hosted by members of the Association
    of Online Professionals, it will present information and discussion
    about legislation and regulation; marketing of BBSs and other online
    services; customer service; system design and development; and news
    and information about the AOP and benefits of membership.

    Link to the AOP echo today for up-to-date information concerning your
    hobby, avocation, vocation and/or chosen profession.

      AREANAME:      AOP
      DISTRIBUTION:  BACKBONE PENDING (Ask your NEC!)

                            -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    I hope to see you online!

    Michele Stewart
    (Moderator/Originator)
    1:369/21

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    A Call For Programmers Of A New Common BBS Interface
    by David Rye, 1:3649/10

    Despite seeing all the ads listing Web pages for various companies,
    despite being told that the internet is going to make all our lives
    perfect, despite seeing how the days of the BBS are numbered... do all
    of you really believe this?

    I often wonder how thrilled with the new technology people will be
    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 9                   29 Jul 1996


    when they receive their first bill from a service provider; that is,
    after Junior has discovered some Butt Bunnies From Beverly Hills web
    page, and then used Dad's 14,400 baud to view all six-hundred photos
    they have digitized on-line.

    Back in the prehistoric times when I programmed for recreation, I
    spent quite a bit of time writing tools for my BBS.  Things to make
    life easier for myself, or my users.  Half of the time I would end up
    writing something because I couldn't afford someone's $79 fee for
    registering a program that sorted the file listings, or that allowed
    the user to download a catalog of the echoes my BBS offered.  Looking
    back on the many things that I spent writing, I could have converted
    that into something a little more useful had I just possessed an easy
    means of writing something that would work with other systems.  The
    multiple formats for everything from file listings to message bases
    prevented me from doing that without going to extraordinary means.

    If the backyard BBS is really to provide something that will attract
    the more novice users who expect to be able to do anything one hour
    after setting the system up, then they must unite to provide a common,
    easy, standardized format for the transmission of information.  This
    all sounds familiar, right?  Well, instead of just sighing and shaking
    our heads over each user that will never have the fun of signing onto
    a local BBS, why can't some of us get together and start working on
    some practical code that will allow a user to log onto a graphics
    oriented system, even if said user couldn't find their mouse with two
    hands and a flashlight?

    With some of the more common tools available today, it shouldn't be so
    hard to get something up and running; both in terms of a BBS, and a
    user interface that could be given away to anyone that was willing to
    take a disk.  The use of something along the lines of Borland's Delphi
    would allow much faster, much neater, and much more standardized code
    amongst a group of persons interested in doing the aforementioned
    task.

    Why sit on our thumbs and bemoan the loss of users when one possible
    solution is within our grasp if we are willing to put forth the
    effort?  Surely some of you remember the task of putting together a
    BBS, trying to get compatible software to help you run it, and so
    forth?  If this process could be made invisible to the end user it
    would make it much easier to go through those struggles again as a
    whole new line of programs was started.

    Instead of giving up, why not give it a try?  We all did it before if
    I remember correctly.  Anyone that has an interest in trying to
    develop new software with a published data format that will allow the
    point and click, graphic based BBS is more than welcome to contact me
    at my FidoNet address of 1:3649/10.
                                               David Rye

    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    Fredric Rice
    The Skeptic Tank
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    (818) 335-9601

    Clocking in on the "Just-when-you-thought-they-couldn't-
    get-any-lower" port:

    As most members of FidoNet and Internet know, the "church" of
    Scientology has been engaged in a war against Internet and BBS
    SysOps around the world in an attempt to silence both their
    critics as well as those (usually ex-Scientologists) who
    continually expose both the contents of and criminal activities
    of the "church."  The focus of their war against the networks
    has always been alt.religion.scientology and, to a far smaller
    extent, a few FidoNet forums, yet they have also tried to silence
    critics out in the real world.

    Time Magazine, the Washington Post, television news, and even
    makers of Public Broadcasting documentaries which have exposed
    the activities of the cult have been attacked, both in the
    courts as well as physically in person. (Members of the cult
    even vandalized the automobiles of PBS employees in an attempt
    to silence them.)

    In the past (as reported by newspapers and magazines around the
    world) the cult has repeatedly tried to illegally remove the
    alt.religion.scientology forum from Internet, forging messages
    to do so.  Additionally, unknown members of the cult have been
    assigned ("Hatted" in the jargon of the cult) to systematically
    forge cancellation messages of other participants' messages.

    The latest low to which the cult had stooped to has been to try
    to spam the forum with _thousands_ of pointless, meandering,
    we've-seen-it-all-before propaganda messages daily.

    Those who may be new to FidoNet or Internet might not know how
    the two technologies are different.  In FidoNet messages are
    created on thousands of systems, collected and grouped by echo
    tag, and sent to a series of centralized locations and messages
    which are dropped into the datastream are not recallable by
    the author.

    On Internet, however, an individual may cancel a posting at a
    later date which has the effect of requesting that all systems
    which have the designated message identification number be
    deleted.  A system then has the option of removing the canceled
    message or not.

    Additionally, in FidoNet we employ AreaFix to turn on or turn
    off subscribed echo forums whereas in Internet, a rmgroup is
    sent to a centralized location to have the entire group removed
    from all the mail servers which honor the rmgroup.

    The last way in which the two are different is the control of
    message spamming.  In FidoNet a disruptive influence is quite
    easily removed simply by asking the SysOp or the SysOp's
    network coordinator to remove someone.  (Unless said someone is
    Steve Winter.  <wink> <wink> )
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    Internet doesn't have that ability.  Internet Service Providers
    must be asked to remove a disruptive individual from a newsgroup
    yet, if it's a commercial account, most ISP's don't _like_
    removing someone from having access to newsgroups based simply
    upon a rash of complaints filed against them.  The primary
    reason for not wishing to remove disruptive individuals seems
    to be the cries of censorship which plagues ISPs these days.
    (While America Online has no ethical or moral qualms against
    imposing censorship, nearly every other ISP does to different
    degrees.)

    FidoNet and Internet do share a common problem with removing a
    disruptive individual, however, and members of the Scientology
    cult have been putting this failing into good use:  Someone who
    is ejected from a FidoNet newsgroup may simply locate another
    system which carries the echo and thus continue to post until he
    is once again ejected from that system.  It then becomes an easy
    exercise to go through a list of systems known to carry the
    echo and an individual can live a long, long time -- provided
    they are willing to expend the time, money, and effort.

    The Scientology cult has been picking up free hours from a broad
    spectrum of Internet Service Providers and posting thousands
    upon thousands of messages -- until the ISP puts a stop to it
    at which point another account is used on the same ISP for the
    same network abuse or another ISP is used altogether.

    The Scientology cult has drawn attention to itself around the
    world, even prompting a report from Taz.  Cornelius Krasel, U
    Wuerzburg, (Dept. of Pharmacology, Versbacher Str. 9 D-97078
    Wuerzburg, Germany, email:
    <a href="mailto:[email protected]">
    [email protected] </a>)
    offered a translation of the article:

        [the office]
        Robots suffocate the discussion

        Since several weeks, the usenet newsgroup
        "alt.religion.scientology" is being flooded by anonymous
        nonsense contributions.

        Shouting down used to be not quite so easy: one needed a
        majority on their side. It has become more convenient in
        the Internet. The automatical electronic down-shouter
        squashes any discussion - without any majority.

        In the usenet group alt.religion.scientology followers and
        adversaries of the science-fiction author, L. Ron Hubbard,
        discuss enthusiastically about his odd teachings. Recently,
        somebody has been trying to squash this discussion. His
        method, "vertical spamming", is easy: in a short period of
        time, a huge amount (in this case almost 10.000) of
        meaningless, computer-generated messages are posted in the
        group.

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        This is supposed to overload the computers, but especially
        the participants of the discussion which have to work
        themselves first through hundreds of robot-letters before
        being able to read a sensible contribution. Unnerved, many
        finish the discussion.

        It is almost impossible for the net community to defend
        itself against this kind of attack. The nonsense would have
        to be sorted out by hand, short-lived throw-away accounts
        hide the true originator. Nevertheless, the American Jon
        Noring ([email protected]) believes to have found the true
        cause: the Church of Scientology itself. He has placed a
        petition in the internet which is supposed to lead
        Scientology to cease the spamming (to sign the petition,
        send an empty email to [email protected] until June
        30th). Noring's clues for the sect's authorship: all the
        jamming contributions are pro-scientology, nothing but short
        excerpts from a Scientology publication, and all start with
        the same introductory sentence which states that "a lot of
        wrong information about Scientology is being distributed
        in alt.religion.scientology".

        When, some time ago, "secret" teaching documents of the sect
        had been published on the net, Scientology had used similar
        "throw-away-accounts" and normed texts to take the
        publications back - why, Noring asks, remains the sect
        silent this time, although large parts of the injected
        postings contain a copyright mark? The silent approval would
        speak for a participation of the money-greedy organization.
        In addition, Noring thinks that Scientologists planned such
        spamming for a long time - the secret plan can be found
        in his directory at

        <a href="ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/no/noring/spamplan.txt">
         ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/no/noring/spamplan.txt
        </a>

        <a href="mailto:[email protected]">
         Stefan Kuzmany: [email protected]
        </a>

        TAZ Nr. 4953 of 06/20/1996 page 12
        Internet 77 lines
        TAZ report Stefan Kuzmany


    More information on the attack can be found at:

    <a href="http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html">
     Spam Information at
     http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html
    </a>

    <a href="http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm">
     More Spam Information at
     http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm
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    </a>


    It's important, I feel, to get a broad-spectrum exposure of what
    is being done to Internet out into both FidoNet and the real
    world as I can expect the success or failure of the attacks to
    be an object lesson for others who might feel the need to
    emulate the Scientology cult's activities.  In FidoNet we have
    yet to experience this level of attack -- we have safeguards.

    Knowing what type of activities "hatted" members of the cult
    are expected to engage in before hand will doubtless keep most
    people from joining the cult.  Knowing that technological fixes
    for such abuse exists and that spamming to silence critics is
    a futile and embarrassing prospect should also help to keep
    this type of abuse down.

    Spread the word.



    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    ECROC:  Good, Bad, or Ugly
    By Troy H. Cheek, 1:362/708.4

    "The real world is what I see.  The real world is what you see.
    Strangely, they are never the same real worlds." -JMS of B5

    Our good friend Bob Moravsik of 2606/583, in the guise of injecting
    some reality into the ECROC discussion, basically tells us that
    anybody who doesn't think ECROC is a good idea is some kind of
    "immature" "control freak."  As someome who thinks ECROC is a good
    idea with a bad implementation, I guess that makes me a *mature*
    control freak.  :-)

    Bob also tells us that moderators exist only to serve the posters.
    This is certainly true, from a certain point of view.  Civil servants
    such as the police exist only to serve the populace.  However, this
    doesn't mean that if you don't like a particular law and want it
    changed, you can ignore the police in the meantime.

    Bob says that ECROC "doesn't put a router in the position of judging."
    Sorry, but that's _exactly_ what it does.  'Here, Mr. Router, take
    these rules and these messages from an echo you probably have no
    experience with and tell me this person doesn't deserve to have his
    access cut.'  That isn't judging?

    Bob says that ECROC "stops the Robbins/Winter/Johnstone/Milner/Degan
    mentaility of making up rules as you go and enforcing them unequally.
    He left out Gerber/Benge/Frezberg.  And me, I guess, since I've been
    compared to some of these for engaging in such sandbox antics like
    reminding users that profanity is not allowed, such marble-grabbing
    tactics as asking that off-topic conversations be moved to other
    echoes, or the big-frog-in-a-small-pond horror of disallowing personal
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    attacks.  I'm also supposedly on the receiving end of a civil rights
    suit for interfering with a poster's right to Free Speech, and there's
    reportedly a 20-sysop team in Canada working furiously to get my right
    to be a moderator revoked.

    "All" ECROC requires, Bob says is that the moderator produce:

         1. The text of the rule that was broken

    if your echo even has written rules, or rules more specific than "play
    nice and stay on topic."  A crooked moderator could easily write a
    rule later and claim it was in effect when a certain message was
    posted.  A crooked poster could claim the moderator did just that.  A
    moderator could still selectively enforce rules by only attempting to
    cut feeds to certain posters, or even writing rules that only affect
    certain posters.

         2. The message(s) that broke the rules

    if you keep copies of every message posted in the echo, never have a
    floppy eaten, and never have a hard drive crash.  A crooked moderator
    could fake messages.  A crooked poster could claim the messages were
    faked by the moderator or someone else.

         3. Two netmail warnings

    that you can't prove the poster ever received.  A crooked moderator
    could write warnings after the fact, or write them and never send
    them.  A crooked poster could claim he never received them.  With
    routed netmail being as unreliable as it is and some systems not
    accepting "crashed" messages, who's to say?

         4. The text of messages that show that a person has ignored the
            warnings

    that he claims he never received or were even sent.  See above.

    I don't know where Bob got statistics that say that "[q]uite often a
    request to cut a link is done in the heat of a strong debate."  Do
    you?

    I won't argue that ECROC wouldn't at least slow down most of the
    excessive moderators, possibly stopping many.  I will argue, however,
    that it will hamstring the efforts of many honest moderators who want
    nothing more than to keep things running reasonably smoothly.

    I mean, take the not unreasonable hypothetical situation of a sysop
    connecting to an echo and immediately begin uplinking a dozen
    objectionable messages a day.  Maybe it's commercial advertisements,
    totally off-topic rants, personal attacks, or accounts of sexual
    escapades so raunchy that even your oversexed brother is blushing.

    What then?  If I'm reading ECROC right, and I invite anyone to point
    out where I might be getting it wrong, I'd first have to make sure the
    rules of the echo didn't allow these posts.  Then I'd have to netmail
    a warning.  After a suitable amount of time to see if the warning was
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    heeded, I'd have to send a second.  Again after waiting a suitable
    amount of time, I'd netmail his router with a link cut request, a copy
    of the rules, and a sample of the offending material.  Then I have to
    wait a few days while the router judges the validity of my request.
    If he rules against me, I have to start the same process all over
    again with him...

    We're talking a *minimum* here of a couple of weeks, and possibly a
    couple of months, of the echo being disrupted.  Without ECROC, it's a
    matter of a few days.

    But enough of that.  As I said above, I think ECROC is a good idea,
    but don't care for the current proposed implementation.  In order that
    ECROC properly serve all the affected parties, I'd like to suggest the
    following changes:

    1)  Until ECROC is approved and becomes mandatory, consider it null
        and void.  Some systems living by ECROC while others ignore it
        will only add to the confusion.

    2)  ECROC must recognize that the job of moderating an echo falls on
        the moderator, and not on routers or sysops or end users.

    3)  Initial link cut requests, once confirmed as genuine, must be
        honored immediately.

    4)  Cut links will have, say, two weeks to appeal the link cut order
        to the router, who will of course contact the moderator.  *Then*
        they can debate rules and violations and warnings.  Within a
        reasonable amount of time (say, a month or so) the links will be
        restored, or not, as the case may be.

    The upshot of my suggestions is that, unlike the current proposed
    ECROC, disruptive posters don't get to continue posting disruptive
    messages while the moderator tries to prove that they are indeed being
    disruptive.  However, those who were cut unfairly still get a chance
    to tell their side and get reinstated.

    Finally, Bob quotes that "You are well within your right to refuse to
    cut a link..."  Again, only if the router is asked to serve as the
    judge of the rightness of the moderator's request is this true.

    Later,
    Troy

    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    Zone 7 Flame will get international?

    Mikhail Ramendik
    2:5020/230.4, [email protected]

    When I got my first Fidonet Point Address back in Fall '93, the
    sysop echos were full of flame about Zone 7. It ended quietly
    when the Moderators became tired of the wars and declared them off
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    topic.

    I was a newbie then. And it was much of a surprise to me when I saw
    the leaders of the factions peacefully drinking beer together...

    Now the flame is gone, and the Zone 7 proponents have established an
    othernet which they believe to be the start of a new zone. The
    opponents just don't take it seriously. The matter is gone. Or WAS -
    until the #29 of Fidonews, which proposed Zone 7 over again!

    Will the flame come back in the snoozie? We shall see... I'm only a
    Point anyway, and I can probably get an FTPoint even in z1 if really
    needed (perhaps I'll try it in the fall). I can just stay away and
    not care. Let the big guys fight. Just you wait until they return
    from vacations...

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

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    =================================================================
                             FIDONET HISTORY
    =================================================================


    FidoNet History  20 Aug 85
    by Tom Jennings and others

            This is Part Two in the history of FidoNet. It turned out that
    the original FIDOHIST.DOC (now called FIDOHIST.DC1, or just "Part
    One") was useful, and many people read it. Unfortunately, by the time
    everyone read it, it became totally obsolete. Oh well. Here is Part
    Two.

            FIDOHIST.DOC covered the early history of FidoNet, why it was
    done, how it was done, and the reasons for the organization and
    obscure rituals surrounding node numbers.  If you haven't read it yet,
    I suggest you do now, because I'll probably refer to things that won't
    make any sense otherwise.

            The original FidoNet was organized very simply; each FidoNet
    system (each node) had a number that served like a phone number,
    uniquely identifying it. The NODELIST, generated by the folks in St.
    Louis that had all FidoNet nodes in it, contains information on all
    known FidoNet systems. Every system in FidoNet had a current copy of
    the NODELIST, which served as the directory of systems.

            (In the interests of brevity I'm leaving out huge amounts of
    information; I hope you have read FIODHIST.DOC by now ...)

            FidoNet has been growing steadily since it started by accident
    in May 84 or so. The node list continued to get out of hand; the
    original FIDOHIST.DOC was written to try and help smooth things out.
    It is impossible to overemphasize the amount of work involved in
    keeping the node list accurate. Basically, the guys in St. Louis were
    keeping track of hundreds of FidoNet systems in Boston, Los Angeles,
    London, Stockholm and Sweden, and publishing the results weekly. There
    has never been such a comprehensive and accurate list of bulletin
    board systems generated.


            We talked for many months as to how we could possibly find a
    solution to the many problems; it was at the point where if a solution
    was not found in a few months (by Aug. 85 or so) that FidoNet would
    collapse due to the sheer weight of it's node list.

            The newsletter, FidoNews, was, and still is, an integral part
    of the process of FidoNet. FidoNews is the only thing that unites all
    FidoNet sysops consistently; please keep up to date on it, and stock
    it for your users if you have the disk space. And contribute if you
    can!

            There were many constraints on the kind of things we could do;
    we had no money, so it had to be done for zero cost.  Centralization
    was out, so obviously localization was in; just how to do it was a
    total unknown. We thought of going back to having people in different
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    areas handle new node requests in their area, but that always
    generated confusion as to who a person should go to, how to avoided
    having someone requesting a node number from different people
    simultaneously, etc., etc.

            The old method of routing was very different than the current
    method, and much more complex; instead of Fido automatically routing
    to hosts, each sysop had to specify (via the ROUTE.BBS file) how all
    routing was done in the system. The was done originally by hand, later
    by John Warren's (102/31) NODELIST program.

            Then of course there was the problem that no matter what we
    did, it would not be done overnight. (ha ha.) It would take many weeks
    at the least, possibly months, so that whatever we did had to be
    compatible with the old method as well.

            We went through probably hundreds of ideas in the next few
    months, some possibly useful, some insane. Eventually the insanity
    boiled down to a pretty workable system. We chatted by FidoNet and by
    voice telephone. Eventually, we settled on the two part number scheme,
    like the phone company does with area codes and exchanges.  It
    accommodated backwards compatibility (you can keep your present node
    number) and the new "area code" (net number) could be added into an
    existing field that had been set to zero. (This is why everyone was
    originally part of net #1).


            When a fortunate set of circumstances was to bring Ezra
    Shapiro and me to St. Louis to speak to the McDonnell Douglas
    Recreational Computer Club on XXXX 11th, we planned ahead for a
    national FidoNet sysops meeting that weekend. Ken and Sally Kaplan
    were kind enough to tolerate having all of us in their living room.

            The people who showed up were (need that list) The meeting
    lasted ten continuous hours; it was the most productive meeting I (and
    most others) had attended. When we were done, we had basically the
    whole thing laid out in every detail.

            We stuck with the area code business (now known as net and
    region numbers) and worked out how to break things up into regions and
    nets. It was just one of those rare but fortunate events; during the
    morning things went "normally", but in the afternoon solutions fell
    into place one by one, so that by late afternoon we had the entire
    picture laid out in black and white. Two or three months of
    brainstorming just flowed smoothly into place in one afternoon ...

            What we had done was exactly what we have now, though we
    changed the name of "Admin" to "Region", and added the "alternate"
    node and net numbers. (We still seem to be stuck with that terrible
    and inaccurate word, "manager". Any ideas?) I previously had a buggy
    test hack running using area codes, and the week after the meeting it
    was made to conform to what we had talked about that Saturday.

            When version 10C was done, it accomplished more or less
    everything we wanted, but it sure did take a long time. 10C was
    probably the single largest change ever made to Fido/FidoNet, and the
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    most thoroughly tested version. At 10M, there are STILL bugs left from
    that early version, in spite of the testing.

            Once the testing got serious, and it looked like we had a
    shippable version, St. Louis froze the node list, and started slicing
    it into pieces, to give to the soon-to-be net and region managers.
    (That word again.) This caused a tremendous amount of trouble for
    would-be sysops; not only was it difficult enough to figure out how on
    earth to get a node number, once they did they were told node numbers
    weren't being given out just yet. Explaining why was even harder,
    since FIDOHIST.DC2 (ahem) wasn't written yet. (I have to agree, this
    thing is a little bit late) It was a typical case of those who already
    knew were informed constantly of updates, but those in the dark had a
    hard time. Things were published fairly regularly (am I remembering
    "conveniently" or "accurately" on this part?)

            Eventually, 10C was released, and seemed to work fairly well,
    ignoring all the small scale disasters due to bugs, etc. We couldn't
    just swap over to the new area code business until very close to 100%
    of all Fidos were using the new version. This was (for me) an
    excruciating period, basically a "hurry up and wait" situation. There
    had not been a node list release for a month or two, and for all
    practical purposes it looked like FidoNet had halted ...

            Finally, on June 12th, we all swapped over to the new system;
    that afternoon, sysops were to set their net number (it had been "1"
    for backwards compatibility), copy in the new node list issued just
    for this occasion, and go. I assumed the result was going to be
    perpetual chaos, bringing about the collapse of FidoNet. Almost the
    exact opposite was true; things went very smoothly (yes, there were
    problems, but when you consider that FidoNet consists of
    microcomputers owned by almost 300 people who had never even talked to
    each other ...)

            Within a month or so, just about every Fido had swapped over
    to the area code, or net/node architecture. With a few exceptions,
    things went very smoothly. No one was more surprised than pessimistic
    I. At this time, August, I don't think there is a single system still
    using the old node number method.

            This is all well and fine as far as the software goes, but it
    made a mess for new sysops. For us sysops who have been around for a
    while, there was no great problem, as we saw the changes happen one by
    one. However, new sysops frequently came out of the blue; armed with a
    diskette full of code, they attempted to set up a FidoNet node.

            Actually, I don't understand how anyone does it. The
    information needed is not recorded in any place that a non sysop could
    find. On top of that, most of it is now totally wrong! If you follow
    the original instructions, it said "call Fido #1 ..." if you found a
    real antique, or "call Fido #51 ..." if it is more current.  Of course
    now it tells you to find your region manager. "Region manager???"
    Well, a list of region managers was published in FidoNews, but unless
    you read FidoNews, how does anyone ever find out? I'll probably never
    know.

    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 20                  29 Jul 1996


            ANYWAYS ... the original reason for all the changes was to
    DECENTRALIZE FidoNet. It just wasn't possible for Ken Kaplan to keep
    accurate, up to date information on every Fido in the US and Europe.
    The decentralization has been more or less a total success. The number
    of problems introduced were negligible compared to the problems
    solved, and even most new problems are by this time solved.

            It is interesting to note that with the hundreds of systems
    there are today, the national FidoNet hour is less crowded than it was
    when there were only 50 nodes.

            Please, keep in mind that no one has done anything like this
    before, we are all winging it, and learning (hopefully) as we go.
    Please be patient with problems, none of us is paid to do this, and it
    is more and more work as time goes on. Somehow it seems to all get
    done ...

            HOW TO GET A NODE NUMBER AND ALL THAT

            This is by necessity a very general idea of how it's done, and
    you were warned earlier that this may be obsolete this very minute;
    with that, here's the "current" process for starting up a new FidoNet
    node.

            You can of course skip all or part of this if you've done this
    before; if you haven't, well, be prepared for a lot of searching and
    asking questions.

            Of course, you need to have your Fido BBS system running
    first. It's probably best that you play with it for a while, and get
    some experience with how it all works, and whether you have the
    patience to run a BBS. It can get exasperating, and you will never
    find time to use the computer ever again.

            Obtain the most recent copy of the nodelist possible; this may
    take some searching. If you get totally lost, you can always contact
    Fido 125/1 or Fido 100/51; though these are very busy systems, they
    both usually have the very latest of anything, and can direct you to
    the right place.

            The big problem here is to find out if you are in a net or
    not, and if not, then who your region manager is. If you are in a
    large city (Los Angeles, Cincinnati, etc) then there is probably a net
    in your area. Look through the node list (use the N)odebook command in
    Fido, or a text editor) for the right area code or city.

            If there is no net in your area, then you are part of a
    region. This is a little harder, because regions are large, and
    sometimes cover many states. Look at all the regions in the node list,
    you should find a region that fits you.

            Once you find this, you have to contact the net or region
    manager to get your node number. Exactly how this is done depends on
    who the manager is, and how sticky they are for details. A near
    universal requirement is that you send your request via FidoNet, not
    by manually; this isn't done to make your life difficult, but to
    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 21                  29 Jul 1996


    ensure that your system is really working right. IF you manage to get
    a FidoNet message to the manager, its usually safe to assume that
    you're system is working OK. If you get a reply in return, then you
    know both directions work.

            It is usually each sysops' responsibility to go get the latest
    nodelist and newsletters; they are not distributed to all systems
    because of the expense. (Though, I'm trying to get them distributed to
    more places than they are now, it's sometimes very difficult to get a
    copy of the nodelist!)

            Again, read the FidoNews newsletter regularly; it is about the
    only way to stay in contact with the rest of the net. Programs,
    problems, services, bugs and interesting announcements can always be
    found there. FidoNews articles don't come out of thin air; send in
    anything you think might be of interest. They don't have to be
    lifetime masterpieces, or even well written.

            Please remember the entire network is made of the sysops;
    there is no central location from which good things come, the net
    consists entirely of the sysops and their contributions. If you don't
    do it, chances are no one else will!

                            Tom Jennings
                            20 Aug 85

    Ken Kaplan              Fido 100/51     314/432-4129
    Tom Jennings            Fido 125/1      415/864-1418
    Ben Baker               Fido 100/10     314/234-1462

    [end of Part 2 of 3]

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 22                  29 Jul 1996


    =================================================================
                           COORDINATORS CORNER
    =================================================================


    Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 208
    By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
       ZC/2

    The table below depicts the growth of the world nodelist as
    seen through the eyes of someone in Zone-2. Delays in pro-
    cessing inbound zone-segments are possible.

    Administrative entries as well as Pvt, Hold and Down are ommitted.
    Percentages have been rounded.

    This article is produced by auto cut-and-paste of outputs from
    T-NSTAT by Bo Bendtsen, ROBO 0.37 by Tom Kashuba and GW-BASIC 3.20
    (C) Microsoft 1986 and MS-DOS 6.22 (C) MicroSoft 1994. It will
    automatically be produced on a weekly basis.

     +----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
     |Zone|Nl.180|Nodelist.187|Nodelist.194|Nodelist.201|Nodelist.208|%%|
     +----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
     |  1 | 13286| 13177  -109| 13105   -72| 12910  -195| 12799  -111|40|
     |  2 | 16539| 16497   -42| 16551    54| 16536   -15| 16520   -16|51|
     |  3 |  1066|  1066     0|  1046   -20|  1029   -17|  1029     0| 3|
     |  4 |   648|   648     0|   656     8|   643   -13|   644     1| 2|
     |  5 |   112|   112     0|   112     0|   112     0|   112     0| 0|
     |  6 |  1228|  1228     0|  1228     0|  1228     0|  1018  -210| 3|
     +----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
          | 32879| 32728  -151| 32698   -30| 32458  -240| 32122  -336|
          +------+------------+------------+------------+------------+

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 23                  29 Jul 1996


    =================================================================
                                NET HUMOR
    =================================================================


    --- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:374/14 ---
        By Christopher Baker on Wed Jul 24 15:57:25 1996

    From: Michael McCabe @ 1:297/11
    To: Christopher Baker @ 1:374/14
    Date: 20 Jul 96  15:26:50
    Subj: Olympics
    ============================================
     * Original to   : All
     * Forwarded on  : Jul 24 96 at 06:21
     * Forwarded from: 14_REC
     * Forwarded by  : Mike Riddle
    ============================================

    Greetings All!

    F I D O  N E W S --         |        Vol. 9 No. 32 (10 August 1992)

    Welcome to the FidoNet Olympics
    by Dave Bealer (1:261/1129)

       The echoes are kind of quiet these days.  Maybe everyone is glued
    to the Olympics Triplecast.  For those of us that aren't, why not have
    our own Olympics on FidoNet?  Here is a summary of suggested events:


    }} Local BBS Events {{

    >> 14.4K Protocol Negotiation <<
    The winner is the first user who can stay awake during the entire
    protocol negotiation sequence between a V.32bis modem and a tin can.

    >> 110-step Registration Hurdles <<
    The gold medal goes to the user who completes the "simple"
    registration procedure in the shortest time.  Contestants are advised
    not to wear glasses or contacts while competing in this event, as they
    might interfere with the online laser retina scan.

    >> Modern Hexadecimalon <<
    Competitors attempt to break 16 different FidoNet policies and/or
    draconian local sysop rules in a single logon session.

    >> Download Ratio Balance Beam <<
    Users attempt daring massive downloads without (hopefully) losing
    their download privileges.

    >> Door Exercises <<
    The gold goes to the user who can enter and play the most door games
    in a 45 minute logon session.

    >> Echolocation <<
    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 24                  29 Jul 1996


    The winner is the user who can find the echo he is looking for in the
    fewest BBS accesses.


    }} Echomail Events {{

    >> Verbal Gymnastics <<
    You won't believe how these competitors can twist and turn the English
    language into almost unrecognizable shapes.

    >> Greco-Roman Thread Wrestling <<
    Wrestling for control over the direction an echo conference thread
    will take.  Moderators are ineligible for this event.

    >> Marathon Messaging <<
    Contestants enter 75 messages in a single echo in one session.  Each
    message must have at least three lines and at least one line must be
    original (not quoted).  The one who enters the 75 messages in the
    shortest time wins.  Penalties will be assessed for each message which
    actually pertains to the topic of the echo.  The use of offline
    readers is prohibited.

    >> Power Quoting <<
    The winner will have made the longest continual quotation with the
    shortest vaguely pertinent reply.  The current world record is 382
    lines of quotes with a five word reply.

    >> Tagline Topping <<
    Medals are awarded in the following categories: Annoying, Childish,
    Funny, Gross and Stupid.  There is also a special all-around medal for
    the tagline which best combines all five attributes.

    >> Volley Message <<
    The gold medal goes to the first pair of correspondents who nest their
    quotes so deeply that the leading initials force the message text off
    the screen entirely.

    >> Platform Diving <<
    Each contestant ascends to the soapbox and attempts to make insulting
    comments about everyone and everything in FidoNet.  Timing is
    critical, as the competitor must dive off the platform before his/her
    access to the net is revoked.

    >> Heavyweight Ego Lifting <<
    In this event the posturing which procedes the lift can be more
    important than the lift itself.

    >> Full Contact Flaming <<
    What would a FidoNet Olympics be without its symbol, the flame?


    }} Sysop Events {{

    >> 5 MB Packet Toss <<
    The gold medal goes to the Sysop whose system can dearchive, toss,
    sort, link and julienne a 5 MB mail packet in the shortest time.
    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 25                  29 Jul 1996


    >> Echo Looping <<
    The winner is the Sysop who can cause the most dup-loops in the most
    different echoes in one day of operation.

    >> Synchronized Polling <<
    The winning Sysop pair will be the one whose systems synchronize
    their polls to each other the longest (without getting through).

                                    ***

    After the events are over everyone will be hanging out at the Olympic
    Village BBS, chatting online about the competitors who failed their
    drug tests.  And we won't have parted with $125 for the privilege.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    Later...MM...
     ([email protected])

     Origin:  Golden Country*  on Bull Shoals Lake, Missouri  (1:297/11)

    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    Could this happen to YOU?
    By Unknown

    Dear John [Mary].....

       To my darling Husband [Wife].

       I am sending you this letter in a bogus software company envelope
    so that you will be sure to read it.  Please forgive the deception,
    but I thought you should know what has been going on at home since
    your Node Coordinator position entered our lives two years ago.

       The children are doing well.  Tommy is seven now and is a bright,
    handsome boy.  He has developed quite an interest in the arts.  He
    drew a family portrait for a school project.  All the likenesses were
    good but yours was excellent!  The chair and the back of your head are
    very realistic.  You would be very proud of him.

       Little Jennifer turned three in September.  She looks a lot like
    you did at that age.  She is an attractive child and quite smart.  She
    still remembers that you spent the whole afternoon with her on her
    birthday.  What a grand day for Jen, despite the fact that it was
    stormy and the electricity was out.

       I am also doing well.  I went blond [met a blond] about a year ago
    and was delighted to discover that it really is more fun!

       Lars [Laura] , I mean Mr. [Ms.] Swenson, my department head, has
    taken an interest in my career and has become a good friend to us all.
    I have discovered that the household chores are much easier since I
    realized that you don't mind being vacuumed but that feather dusting
    made you sneeze.

    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 26                  29 Jul 1996


       The house is in good shape.  I had the living room painted last
    Spring.  I'm not sure if you noticed it.  I made sure the painters cut
    air holes in the drop cloth so you wouldn't be disturbed.

       Well, my dear, I must be going.  Uncle [Aunt] Lars [Laura], Mr.
    [Ms.] Swenson, I mean, is taking us all on a ski trip and there will
    be packing to do.  I have hired a housekeeper to take care of things
    while we are away.  She'll keep things in order, fill your coffee cup,
    and bring meals to your desk, - just the way you like it.  I hope you
    and the computer have a lovely time while we are gone.  Tommy, Jen and
    I will think of you often.  Try to remember us while your Nodelists
    are compiling.

       Love, Mary [John]
       (Your Wife) (Your Husband)

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 27                  29 Jul 1996


    =================================================================
                          QUESTION OF THE WEEK
    =================================================================


    FidoNews has been publishing for over ten years.  Except for a few
    missed Issues, that's close to 600 Issues.

    The Question of the Week is:

        Does anyone have ALL the FidoNews Issues in one place and if so,
        WHERE is that place and are they all available for file-request
        or download or ftp via the InterNet?

    Respond to FidoNews or via Netmail or in the FIDONEWS Echo now
    available on the Zone 1 Backbone and in Zones 2 and 3 last I heard.

    Thanks.


    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 28                  29 Jul 1996


    =================================================================
                                 NOTICES
    =================================================================

                            Future History


     1 Aug 1996
       Confederation Day, Switzerland

    15 Aug 1996
       Liberation Day, South Korea

    28 Sep 1996
       Confucius' Birthday.

    29 Oct 1996
       Republic Day, Turkey.

     5 Nov 1996
       Election day, U.S.A.

     5 Nov 1996
       Guy Fawkes Day, England.

     1 Dec 1996
       Thirteen Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by Tom Jennings.

    19 Dec 1996
       Gallileo takes close-ups of Europa to resolution
       of 20 meters at the equator.

    26 Jan 1997
       Australia Day, Australia.

    16 Feb 1997
       Eleventh Anniversary of invention of Echomail by Jeff Rush.

    26 Jul 1997
       FidoNews Editor turns 48.

     6 Dec 1997
       Gallileo takes close-ups of Europa to resolution
       of 11 meters at the north pole.


    If you have something which you would like to see in this
    Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    Notice to UK Contributors
    Damian Walker, 2:2502/666

    If you are in the UK and you wish to contribute to FidoNews, you are
    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 29                  29 Jul 1996


    welcome to drop your FidoNews articles at Centurion (2:2502/666).
    These articles will be forwarded to the FidoNews editor early each
    Saturday morning (around 0530 GMT).

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    =================================================================


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                          FIDONEWS INFORMATION
    =================================================================

    ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------

    Editor: Christopher Baker

    Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
                      Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar,
                      Tom Jennings, Sylvia Maxwell,
                      Donald Tees

    "FidoNews Editor"
        FidoNet  1:1/23
        BBS  1-407-383-1372,  300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(ds)

     more addresses:
        Christopher Baker -- 1:374/14, [email protected]
                                       [email protected]

    (Postal Service mailing address)
        FidoNews Editor
        P.O. Box 5921
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        U.S.A.


    voice:  1-407-264-2994 [1400-2100 ET only, please]
                           [1800-0100 UTC/GMT]

    ------------------------------------------------------

    FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
    INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system.  It is a compilation
    of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
    authorized agents.  The contribution of articles to this compilation
    does not diminish the rights of the authors.  OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
    these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
    FidoNews.

    Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
    Copyright 1996 Christopher Baker.  All rights reserved.  Duplication
    and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only.  For
    use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
    the editor.

    OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
    form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
    file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
    PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
    address.  File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue.  File-request
    FNEWS for the current month in one archive.  Or file-request specific
    back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSDnn.LZH] for a
    particular Issue.  Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
    where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
    FIDONEWS 13-31               Page 32                  29 Jul 1996


    current year [6], i.e., FNWSMAY6.ZIP for all the Issues from May 96.

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