Volume 8, Number  3                               21 January 1991
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    Editor in Chief:                                  Vince Perriello
    Editors Emeritii:                    Thom Henderson,  Dale Lovell
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

    Copyright 1991, Fido Software.  All rights reserved.  Duplication
    and/or distribution permitted  for  noncommercial  purposes only.
    For use in other circumstances, please  contact  Fido Software.

    FidoNews  is  published  weekly by and for  the  Members  of  the
    FidoNet (r) International Amateur Electronic Mail System.   It is
    a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors
    or authorized agents of the authors. The contribution of articles
    to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors.

    You  are  encouraged   to  submit  articles  for  publication  in
    FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
    ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1:1/1.    1:1/1  is a Continuous
    Mail system, available for network mail 24 hours a day.

    Fido and  FidoNet  are  registered  trademarks of Tom Jennings of
    Fido Software, Box  77731,  San  Francisco  CA 94107, USA and are
    used with permission.

    Opinions expressed in  FidoNews articles are those of the authors
    and are not necessarily  those of the Editor or of Fido Software.
    Most articles are unsolicited.   Our  policy  is to publish every
    responsible submission received.


                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
       So, how about them Giants?  ...............................  1
    2. ARTICLES  .................................................  3
       War in the Gulf  ..........................................  3
       Just a quickie  ...........................................  5
    3. LATEST VERSIONS  ..........................................  7
       Latest Software Versions  .................................  7
    4. NOTICES  .................................................. 12
       The Interrupt Stack  ...................................... 12
    FidoNews 8-03                Page 1                   21 Jan 1991


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                                EDITORIAL
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    For those of you who objected to last week's editorial: you
    are a minority (or at least you're a minority of those messages
    I received). But your point is well taken. I'll try to keep
    these outbursts to a minimum.

    It's sort of funny, though. There are really no particular
    restrictions on subject matter in FidoNews articles. The
    objections I heard seemed to suggest that the Editor has to
    apply restrictions to his(her) own contributions that nobody
    else need be concerned with.

    Balderdash.

    Let me tell you what I did today. I watched two football games on
    my projection TV system, fully enjoying the effects of Dolby
    Surround in each case. I played about 10 games of pinball down in
    the basement. I took the family out to dinner. I moved a bunch of
    files from a scragged Rainbow to one of my clones over a serial
    line. I watched coverage of you-know-what on CNN.

    What does all that have to do with FidoNet? Nothing and
    everything.

    You see, there was really no particular relationship between what
    I did and the technical aspects of operating a FidoNet node. So
    it is logical to assume that there was no relationship between
    today's activities and FidoNet.

    However, in the new social manifestation of FidoNet, the person
    who sits behind the keyboard is an integral part of the network.
    The contribution made to the network by this person is a function
    of everything that person experiences and performs. This leads to
    a logical conclusion that there is a relationship between my trip
    to Chili's with the kids and FidoNet.

    Last week, this tension in the Persian Gulf was occupying my
    mind. I was pissed off that things had reached the stage where
    war was inevitable. I needed to get it off my chest. I did so.
    An amazing number of people shared my feelings and many of them
    indicated that my core dump had been helpful to their own thought
    process.

    When I was finished, I felt better. So did others. I made a
    positive contribution. That makes me feel even more better.

    Perhaps a few of you media critics could try writing the perfect
    article. It would sure be a gas to see someone in FidoNet win a
    Pulitzer Prize. It should be easy. Your only real competition
    would be some war correspondent, and who cares about wars anyway?

    FidoNews 8-03                Page 2                   21 Jan 1991


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    FidoNews 8-03                Page 3                   21 Jan 1991


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                                ARTICLES
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    Dirk Pitt
    FidoNet 1:120/224

                        Your Leader or Your Oil

    Wedneday, Jan. 16, 1991.  I had just finished the readings for a
    Political Science course on International Relations.  Scanning
    through the channels on the vcr I hit CFPL and see they are
    transmitting the live feed from CNN about something from Iraq.
    Wait a minute, it's 7:37pm.  Why is CFPL running a feed from CNN
    in prime time?  Better switch over to CNN and see what's
    happening.  In a lightning swift move, US President George Bush
    has launched an allied air strike on Iraq, and CNN, the little
    network that grew, is the only US or Canadian network that is
    transmitting live.  For the next three and a half hours I sit
    and watch what seems to be a very one sided battle.  As I go
    to sleep, wondering what is going to happen while I sleep, I
    can't help but think that I should have filled up my car's gas
    tank as the price of oil is likely to go through the roof when
    the stock exchanges open.

    Thursday, Jan. 17, 1991.  The hike in the price of oil that all
    the bankers and analists have been forcasting should war erupt
    never happens, but the price of Light-Sweet Crude (the U.S.
    Benchmark crude) has hit a low that only existed before Iraq's
    leader Saddam Hussain moved to illegally annex neighboring
    Kuwait.  And the NYSE rises over 100 points.  What's going on
    here?  From what I can piece together, it looks like Iraq,
    Kuwait, and/or Saudi Arabia will now have a permanent U.S.
    millitary presence, be it in the form of bases to "protect" the
    oil wells in Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, or a multi-national
    occupation force will move into Iraq, dividing it into zones
    similiar to what happened to Berlin after WWII.
    Finally, almost 24 hours after the initial allied air attack on
    Iraq, some of the missles that escaped destruction have been
    fired at Israel.  What launching missles at Israel will
    accomplish, has yet to be discovered.  Israel did not take part
    in the initial attack, but has been singled out as the first
    nation to be attacked in retaliation.  Given the current
    feelings between the Arabs and the Jews, Saddam may have just
    signed his own death warrant.  Israel has repetedly demonstrated
    that it can and will defend itself.

    Now that conflict has begun, we can only hope that it will be
    over soon, and not plunge us into WWIII and/or a religious war
    composed of people of the Arabic faith vs. most other faiths.

    FidoNews 8-03                Page 4                   21 Jan 1991


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    FidoNews 8-03                Page 5                   21 Jan 1991


    Garth Kidd
    3:680/828

          profuse apologies
          =================

    Apologies if the formatting on this one is bad, but I'm doing it
    by hand in FroDo. I may even take the time to do it properly
    later, but since it's just a short one...

          on with the story...
          ====================

    ... in any case, on with the story. As far as non-geographical
    nets are concerned: they're really not needed. There is NOTHING
    in POLICY4 that says you can't get your echomail from whoever
    you want. So, you can get your feed from the net next door if
    you like, and all you have to do is poll your real host every
    now and again to pick up your routed netmail.

    Seeing as the main reason people want to switch nets is to do
    with echomail distribution in some way or another, that little
    realisation should fix quite a few problems.

    Why am I bringing this up? Well, as it was pointed out to me:

     > Giving people a choice of which net they can belong to
     > makes it a social choice, and once a group gets together
     > they can just as easily 'socially choose' to not have you
     > in their net.

    Now, there could be ways in which you could restrict this kind
    of thing happening under a new POLICY (like WORLDPOL), but it
    seems to me that it'd be mightily unwieldy. By the way, the
    worry about this kind of thing happening isn't just opinion --
    it's happening, live. Here's a simplified version of what's
    happening in one area of FidoNet. It's not arranged on the
    ol' geographical boundary system, and...

     > What would you say if, in your area of FidoNet, you had
     > two choices:

     > 1) Run a specific type of machine, 24-hours-a-day only, and
     > pay membership fees to a non-FidoNet-related club and honour
     > that club's rules/decisions about how you run your board.

     > 2) Run in an alternative independent network where you are
     > forced to pay _heavy_ contributions to the net's echomail
     > bill whether you take any or not, and operate under a local
     > policy (which you must sign) which forbids you complaining
     > outside the net without first going before the net's
    FidoNews 8-03                Page 6                   21 Jan 1991


     > "committee". (Among many other restrictions . . .)

    Now, I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty worrying to
    me, especially as I really can see that kind of thing happening
    in many areas of Australia, said areas already having shown
    some pretty spectacular displays of applied politics and in-
    fighting.

    The POLICY4 we're all so "fond" of is quite explicit about what
    you have to do to join FidoNet. It's nice to know that if I move
    house, I'm not going to get locked out of the local network
    because of a personality conflict with my new area's host.

    As before, I'm just throwing stuff around to stir debate. Whilst
    WORLDPOL may be better than POLICY4 in a lot of respects, it's
    not perfect yet, and I'd hate to make a hasty decision on the
    matter.


    gk

          post script
          ===========

    PS. I love mail. If \ANYONE\ has any comments to make, send 'em
    in to me! International crashmail is not required -- nor would
    it work (me being a -pvt- node and all). The zonegate, on the
    other hand, seems to be functioning perfectly. Once it hits
    there, the beautifully efficient netmail routing we have here
    in ZONE 3 will get your message to me with loving care.

    Now, the amusing bit -- I leave for the big end of RG50 in a few
    days, and will be there for a couple of weeks. Don't expect any
    huge numbers of replies until then. Sorry.

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    FidoNews 8-03                Page 7                   21 Jan 1991


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                             LATEST VERSIONS
    =================================================================

                        Latest Software Versions

                             MS-DOS Systems
                             --------------

                          Bulletin Board Software
    Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

    DMG            2.93    Phoenix         1.3    TAG           2.5g
    Fido            12s+   QuickBBS       2.66    TBBS           2.1
    GSBBS          3.01    RBBS          17.3A    TComm/TCommNet 3.4
    Lynx           1.30    RBBSmail      17.3B    Telegard       2.5
    Kitten         2.16    RemoteAccess  0.04a    TPBoard        6.1
    Maximus        1.02    SLBBS          1.77A   Wildcat!      2.55
    Opus           1.14+   Socrates       1.10    WWIV          4.12
    PCBoard        14.5                           XBBS          1.15

    Network                Node List              Other
    Mailers     Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities  Version

    BinkleyTerm    2.40    EditNL         4.00    ARC            7.0
    D'Bridge       1.30    MakeNL         2.31    ARCAsim       2.30
    Dutchie       2.90C    ParseList      1.30    ARCmail       2.07
    FrontDoor     1.99c    Prune          1.40    ConfMail      4.00
    PRENM          1.47    SysNL          3.14    Crossnet      v1.5
    SEAdog        4.51b    XlatList       2.90    DOMAIN        1.42
    TIMS      1.0(Mod8)    XlaxDiff       2.35    EMM           2.02
                           XlaxNode       2.35    4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18
                                                  Gmail         2.05
                                                  GROUP         2.16
                                                  GUS           1.30
                                                  HeadEdit      1.15
                                                  InterPCB      1.31
                                                  LHARC         1.13
                                                  MSG            4.1
                                                  MSGED         2.06
                                                  MSGTOSS        1.3
                                                  Oliver        1.0a
                                                  PK[UN]ZIP     1.10
                                                  QM             1.0
                                                  QSORT         4.03
                                                  Sirius        1.0x
                                                  SLMAIL        1.36
                                                  StarLink      1.01
                                                  TagMail       2.41
                                                  TCOMMail       2.2
                                                  Telemail      1.27
    FidoNews 8-03                Page 8                   21 Jan 1991


                                                  TMail         1.15
                                                  TPBNetEd       3.2
                                                  TosScan       1.00
                                                  UFGATE        1.03
                                                  XRS           4.00*
                                                  XST            2.2
                                                  ZmailH        1.14


                               OS/2 Systems
                               ------------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Maximus-CBCS       1.02   BinkleyTerm  2.40   Parselst      1.32
                                                  ConfMail      4.00
                                                  EchoStat       6.0
                                                  oMMM          1.52
                                                  Omail          3.1
                                                  MsgEd         2.06
                                                  MsgLink       1.0C
                                                  MsgNum        4.14
                                                  LH2           0.50
                                                  PK[UN]ZIP     1.02
                                                  ARC2          6.00
                                                  PolyXARC      2.00
                                                  Qsort          2.1
                                                  Raid           1.0
                                                  Remapper       1.2
                                                  Tick           2.0
                                                  VPurge        2.07


                                Xenix/Unix
                                ----------

    BBS Software                  Mailers         Other Utilities
    Name             Version  Name      Version   Name       Version

                              BinkleyTerm 2.30b   Unzip         3.10
                                                  ARC           5.21
                                                  ParseLst     1.30b
                                                  ConfMail     3.31b
                                                  Ommm         1.40b
                                                  Msged        1.99b
                                                  Zoo           2.01
                                                  C-Lharc       1.00
                                                  Omail        1.00b

    FidoNews 8-03                Page 9                   21 Jan 1991


                                Apple CP/M
                                ----------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Daisy               v2j   Daisy Mailer 0.38   Nodecomp      0.37
                                                  MsgUtil        2.5
                                                  PackUser        v4
                                                  Filer         v2-D
                                                  UNARC.COM     1.20


                                Macintosh
                                ---------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Red Ryder Host     2.1    Tabby         2.2   MacArc         0.04
    Mansion            7.15   Copernicus    1.0   ArcMac          1.3
    WWIV (Mac)         3.0                        LHArc          0.33
    Hermes             1.01                       StuffIt Classic 1.6
    FBBS               0.91                       Compactor      1.21
                                                  TImport        1.92
                                                  TExport        1.92
                                                  Timestamp       1.6
                                                  Tset            1.3
                                                  Import          3.2
                                                  Export         3.21
                                                  Sundial         3.2
                                                  PreStamp        3.2
                                                  OriginatorII    2.0
                                                  AreaFix         1.6
                                                  Mantissa       3.21
                                                  Zenith          1.5
                                                  Eventmeister    1.0
                                                  TSort           1.0
                                                  Mehitable       2.0
                                                  UNZIP         1.02c

                                  Amiga
                                  -----

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Paragon           2.082+  BinkleyTerm  1.00   AmigArc       0.23
    TransAmiga         1.05   TrapDoor     1.50   AReceipt       1.5
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                              WelMat       0.42   booz          1.01
                                                  ConfMail      1.10
                                                  ChameleonEdit 0.10
                                                  ElectricHerald1.66
                                                  Lharc         1.30
                                                  MessageFilter 1.52
                                                  oMMM         1.49b
                                                  ParseLst      1.30
                                                  PkAX          1.00
                                                  PK[UN]ZIP     1.01
                                                  PolyxAmy      2.02
                                                  RMB           1.30
                                                  RoboWriter    1.02
                                                  Skyparse      2.30
                                                  TrapList      1.12
                                                  Yuck!         1.61
                                                  Zippy (Unzip) 1.25
                                                  Zoo           2.01



                                Atari ST
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    Bulletin Board         Network                Node List
    Software    Version    Mailer      Version    Utilities  Version

    FIDOdoor/ST    2.11*   BinkleyTerm  2.40jt    ParseList     1.30
    QuickBBS/ST    1.02    The BOX        1.20    Xlist         1.12
    Pandora BBS   2.41c                           EchoFix       1.20
    GS Point       0.61
    LED ST         1.00
    MSGED         1.96S

    Archiver               Msg Format             Other
    Utilities   Version    Converters  Version    Utilities  Version

    LHARC          0.60    TB2BINK        1.00    ConfMail      4.03*
    ARC            6.02    BINK2TB        1.00    ComScan       1.02
    PKUNZIP        1.10    FiFo           2.12*   Import        1.14
                                                  OMMM          1.40
                                                  Pack          1.00
                                                  FastPack      1.20
                                                  FDsysgen      2.16*
                                                  FDrenum       2.10
                                                  Trenum        0.10



                               Archimedes
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    BBS Software           Mailers                Utilities
    Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

    ARCbbs         1.44    BinkleyTerm    2.03    Unzip        2.1TH
                                                  ARC           1.03
                                                  !Spark       2.00d

                                                  ParseLst      1.30
                                                  BatchPacker   1.00


    + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
    * Recently changed

    Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
    reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
    all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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                                 NOTICES
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                         The Interrupt Stack


    16 Feb 1991
       Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.

    30 Mar 1991
       Jim Grubs (W8GRT) was issued his first ham radio license forty
       years ago today. His first station was made from an ARC-5
       "Command Set" removed from a B-17 bomber.

    12 May 1991
       Fourth anniversary of FidoNet operations in Latin America and
       second anniversary of the creation of Zone-4.

     8 Sep 1991
       25th anniversary of first airing of Star Trek on NBC!

     7 Oct 1991
       Area code  415  fragments.   Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
       will  begin  using  area  code  510.   This includes  Oakland,
       Concord, Berkeley  and  Hayward.    San  Francisco, San Mateo,
       Marin, parts of  Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
       Islands will retain area code 415.

     1 Feb 1992
       Area  code 213 fragments.    Western,  coastal,  southern  and
       eastern portions of Los Angeles  County  will begin using area
       code 310.  This includes Los  Angeles  International  Airport,
       West  Los  Angeles,  San  Pedro and Whittier.    Downtown  Los
       Angeles  and  surrounding  communities  (such as Hollywood and
       Montebello) will retain area code 213.

     1 Dec 1993
       Tenth anniversary of Fido Version 1 release.

     5 Jun 1997
       David Dodell's 40th Birthday


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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