Volume 7, Number 29                                  16 July 1990
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    Editor in Chief:                                  Vince Perriello
    Editors Emeritii:                    Thom Henderson,  Dale Lovell
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

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                       Table of Contents
    1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
       How Big is FidoNet?  ......................................  1
       Announcing The Programmers Distribution Network!  .........  2
       Remote Control and You  ...................................  4
    2. NOTICES  ..................................................  6
       The Interrupt Stack  ......................................  6
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    Mike Riddle
    1:285/27


                     HOW BIG IS THE NETWORK?

    From time to time, some of us (far be it from me to suggest that
    there may have been a brewski or two in the room, or that the
    room was full of net 285 sysops) have wondered how big the
    network really is.  After all, my knowledge is the space the
    NODELIST takes up on my disk, and we all /know/ that it's full
    of duplicates because of coordinators and hubs and zones and
    such.  Right?

    As part of a class I'm taking in Mass Media Law, I had occasion
    to wonder a little more critically.  The only published figures
    were several years old, and mentioned the 3,000 - 4,000 range.
    So I decided to do a little checking.

    My method was to import the nodelist into a database and check
    for duplicate telephone numbers.  There were 1525 duplicates,
    base on NODELIST.194.  Of these, 345 were annotated "duplicate"
    because the telephone number is "-Unpublished-".

    So, not being wanton or frivolous enough to hand check 345
    telephone numbers, I'm assuming that coordinators, regions and
    such aren't likely to have the number -Unpublished-.  So, I
    added back in the -Unpublished count.  The final figure, of
    presumably physically independent nodes, is

                       8739 entries
                  less 1525 duplicates
                  plus  345 -Unpublished-
                  =======================
                       7559 nodes

    and that's the way it is, as of NODELIST.194.  Trivial Pursuit
    fans please take note, everyone else (including yours truly)
    just try to figure out why I bothered!


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    FIDONEWS 7-29                Page 2                   16 Jul 1990


    Erik VanRiper
    Fido 1:260/230

             The Programmers Distribution Network (PDN) is here!
    After being forced to log on to BBS's all over the world to find
    the latest CXL library, (mostly because I cannot afford C$erve
    or the phone bill!) or a Library for Fossil Routines, I would
    think to myself: "Why is there no means for transferring these
    kinds of files like there is for the SDS?".  Well, I finally
    decided to do something about it.

            On Monday, July 9th, I did a mass mailing to all the
    nodes in Zone 1 with a USDS flag in the nodelist.  Some I could
    not get through to, for unknown reasons, but for the 100 or so I
    did get through to, I received an overwhelming response within 12
    hours.  I also found a few Nets doing this same idea more locally
    and they have agreed to join forces.  A lot of people came up
    with many ideas on how things should be distributed, and I have
    taken them all into consideration.  I figured that the best way
    to handle the distribution would be to set up one node in each
    Region, then have that coordinator pass the files to their own
    Region, and off to one other Region.  We would (of course) use
    TICK, because it works!

          Things will be set up in the following fashion:

          Area Name        Area Description
          =========        ================

          CEE              Any MSDOS related C or C++ files
          PASCAL           Any MSDOS related Pascal files
          BASIC            Any MSDOS related Basic files
          ASSEMBLY         Any 80xxx related Assembly files
          BATCH            Any .BAT related files
          PDNOS2           Any OS/2 related files
          PDNOTHER         Any Amiga, Macintosh, etc. related files
          LANGUAGE         Any Other files that do not fit under the
                           other areas (Unix, Modula-2, Cobol, etc).


           In the above chart, I refer to "files" as Libraries,
    Object code, or Source code in each area.  I would also ask that
    the author (or authorized agent) please make sure that the file
    being entered into the PDN be documented, and functional.  I
    would like to not see "CrippleWare" or "VaporWare" included.
    Only Public Domain and ShareWare should be submitted.

           The following Nodes have volunteered to be Regional
    Distribution points for the PDN:


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           Region       Node
           ======       ====
             10         102/531
             11         121/99
             12         240/507
             13         260/230 * See Note 1
             14         100/555
             15         302/5
             16         141/730
             17         140/53
             18         116/36  * See Note 2
             19         397/2

           * Note 1:  A Gateway between Zone 1 to Zones 2 and 3 has
                      been arranged via Mark Howard (260/0).

           * Note 2:  116/36 has provided gateways to the following
                      Zones: 6, 8, 29, 99, and GTNet.

           If you are in a different Zone, or if you would like more
    information on the PDN, please contact one of the above PDN_RC's,
    and File Request PDNINFO.ZIP.


           If you are interested in distributing the PDN for your
    Net, please contact one of the above PDNRC's to pick up the
    area(s) your Net wants.

           There will also be two message Echo areas created, and
    they will be passed during the distribution of the files.  One
    will be for the PDNRC's to coordinate the transfers, and the
    second will be used by the users of individual BBS's to enable a
    conference for support.

           Happy Programming! :-}

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    Christopher L. Browne
    Fidonet 1:141/735

                          Remote Control and You

    "What? That database isn't working? Can you tell me what error
    message you're seeing?....happens too fast eh?...hmmm...Sounds
    like I'll need to hop the next red-eye to Los Angeles. That's ok,
    this Connecticut weather is bumming me out anyway. Hope the boss
    signs that travel voucher. This could get expensive..."

    Remote control. It's a pretty simple concept actually. One device
    being controlled by another device without any true physical
    contact between the devices. We use it everyday with our cable,
    TV, and stereo systems. I personally am the proud owner of 8
    "clickers"! When applied to the PC's on our desks at both home
    and work, it is the same concept.

    Using the example above, remote control can save the techie some
    considerable time and money. The administrator in LA needs only
    to run a "host" program and then sit back while the techie modems
    in from Danbury with the "guest" program, diagnoses the problem
    with the database and even fix it while connected. Everything
    that the techie is doing is being done on the PC in LA yet it is
    being controlled remotely from Danbury. Pretty neat eh?

    The possibilities are almost endless! A good true life example
    exists in Utah. At the bottom of a lake, a PC is sealed in a box
    with phone and power cables routed from the shore. This PC has
    equipment and software that monitors water temprature and flow
    and controls flood gates for a dam nearby. Attached to the PC is
    a modem. The person in charge of this system (whose office is
    about 50 miles away), can see exactly what is happening and can
    make emergency adjustments at any time simply by calling this PC
    and remotely controlling it. No trip to the lake has to be made.

    At the software level, all that is being done is redirection. The
    video output from LA is being sent and maybe translated to the
    video display of the Danbury machine. The keyboard input from
    Danbury is being sent to and processed by the machine in LA. Some
    remote control programs even re-direct printer output. Most
    remote control programs provide file transfer as well.

    Now, you are probably asking me why I'm writing this. I have
    recently created an echo conference that deals with this topic -
    remote control. I know that MANY people do use it. I know that
    MANY people don't. I know that MANY people don't understand it.
    The goal of this conference, called REMOTE, is to educate those
    that don't understand and assist those that use remote control
    software. REMOTE's sideline goals are to induce new ideas for the
    market, discuss problems with current or previous attempts at
    remote control, and keep the user aware of this little niche of
    the software industry.

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    As moderator/creator of REMOTE, I can only hope that people
    realize that a forum of this type could really benefit both the
    user and sysop of any bbs system in Fidonet. Remote control
    software is BIG. Each commercially available package is selling
    in the millions while there is a growing presence of remote
    control shareware and public domain software. A node that carries
    this conference could use it as a selling point to attract users!

    REMOTE is currently available from my system, theWeb! 1:141/735,
    along with a majority of the HUBS of Net 1:141 in Connecticut.
    With a bit of luck and lot's of usage, REMOTE could even become a
    backbone echo!

    Christopher L. Browne
    Creator/Moderator of REMOTE
    theWeb! 1:141/735 (203)790-6612


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                                 NOTICES
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                         The Interrupt Stack


    27 Jul 1990
       The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in
       the Columbia Gorge, Oregon.  For details contact Ken Zwaschka,
       1:105/54.

     1 Aug 1990
       Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for
       details.

    17 Aug 1990
       Start of first ever Searchlight SysOps convention in Chicago, IL.
       Contact Marge Robbins at 1:283/120 for details.

     5 Oct 1990
       21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

     6 Nov 1990
       First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28

    14 Nov 1990
       Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
       2:332/16.0

     1 Jan 1991
       Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
       Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.

    16 Feb 1991
       Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.

     7 Oct 1991
       Area code  415  fragments.   Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
       will  begin  using  area  code  510.   This includes  Oakland,
       Concord, Berkeley  and  Hayward.    San  Francisco, San Mateo,
       Marin, parts of  Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
       Islands will retain area code 415.

     1 Feb 1992
       Area  code 213 fragments.    Western,  coastal,  southern  and
       eastern portions of Los Angeles  County  will begin using area
       code 310.  This includes Los  Angeles  International  Airport,
       West  Los  Angeles,  San  Pedro and Whittier.    Downtown  Los
       Angeles  and  surrounding  communities  (such as Hollywood and
       Montebello) will retain area code 213.

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     5 Jun 1997
       David Dodell's 40th Birthday


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
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