Volume 7, Number 28                                   9 July 1990
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    Editor in Chief:                                  Vince Perriello
    Editors Emeritii:                    Thom Henderson,  Dale Lovell
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

    Copyright 1990, Fido Software.  All rights reserved.  Duplication
    and/or distribution permitted  for  noncommercial  purposes only.
    For use in other circumstances, please  contact  Fido Software.

    FidoNews  is  published  weekly  by  the  System Operators of the
    FidoNet  (r)  International  BBS Network.  It is a compilation of
    individual articles  contributed  by  their authors or authorized
    agents of the  authors.    The  contribution  of articles to this
    compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors.

    You  are  encouraged   to  submit  articles  for  publication  in
    FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
    ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1:1/1.    1:1/1  is a Continuous
    Mail system, available for network mail 24 hours a day.

    Fido and  FidoNet  are  registered  trademarks of Tom Jennings of
    Fido Software, Box  77731,  San  Francisco  CA 94107, USA and are
    used with permission.

    Opinions expressed in  FidoNews articles are those of the authors
    and are not necessarily  those of the Editor or of Fido Software.
    Most articles are unsolicited.   Our  policy  is to publish every
    responsible submission received.


                       Table of Contents
    1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
       A New Computer Magazine  ..................................  1
       Region17 FidoCon Preliminary Program  .....................  3
       Region17 Registration Form  ...............................  6
       Announcing Socrates BBS System v1.00  .....................  9
       NEW! FidoCon '90 Registration Form  ....................... 12
    2. COLUMNS  .................................................. 14
       Talk Me Through It, Honey  ................................ 14
    3. LATEST VERSIONS  .......................................... 17
       Latest Software Versions  ................................. 17
    4. NOTICES  .................................................. 20
    And more!
    FidoNews 7-28                Page 1                    9 Jul 1990


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                                ARTICLES
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    Dan Grigor
    Fido 1:202/412


    Announcing a new Computer Magazine


    I would like to take this opportunity to let the world know that
    there is soon to be an exciting new magazine in San Diego.  It is
    so new that it doesn't even have a name yet.  Oh, we've toyed
    with a few ideas, and I'm sure one will land on it soon, but for
    now we just want to let you know what is happening and see if you
    would like to be involved.

    Our goal is to be a free, locally run, news magazine for the
    computing community, available at computer stores, electronically,
    at local libraries and, frankly, anywhere else where someone will
    put us on their counter, in front of their store, on the hood of
    their car...

    We would like to have the standard assortment of reading fare:
    Columns dealing with specific computers;  Q & A;  an extensive BBS
    list as well as an "on-line" column;  information about user
    groups;  cartoons;  informative, educational and humorous articles
    on any computer-related subject.

    So there it is, an invitation to be part of a new magazine right
    from the start.  You don't have to live in San Diego to be a part
    of it, you just have to have something that would be of interest
    to our readers.  Any submission you may deem appropriate will be
    reviewed and will more than likely get in, as our requirements
    are pretty much "if you write it, we'll print it." *

            * That is, if it makes sense to SOMEBODY! :-) *

    If you are, or would like to be, a writer or cartoonist,  send
    us an example of your work.  Be warned it may get used, so send
    only things you would like to have included.

    If you have a BBS send us your information. Name, number, hours,
    baud rates etc.  If you have or belong to a user group send us
    your information.

    If you have any advice for us (good or bad) send it along.
    If you think we're nuts... let us know.
    If you're nuts... let us know.

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 2                    9 Jul 1990


    We can be reached in a number of ways:

    Netmail:       1:202/412

    BBS:           Electro-Shok Therapy
                   (619)723-3965
                   23hrs 2400 bips 8/N/1

    USnailMail:    Electro-Shok Therapy
                   P.O. Box 105
                   Fallbrook, CA 92028

    CIS:           Dan Grigor
                   ID# 71511,577

    Thanks in advance for all your help, advice, contributions --
    and for requesting our Advertising Rate Card!


                               Dan Grigor
                               Danielle Foster

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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 3                    9 Jul 1990


    Janet Murray
    Fido 1:105/23

    We're pretty flexible in Net105; if _this_ works, we may even consider
    hosting FidoCon '91!  Meanwhile, here's our loose agenda for R17Con
    (thanks to the Program Director):

                             Preliminary Program
                               27-29 July 1990

                          Friday 27 July - Evening
                         --------------------------

    Dinner

    R17 Echomail: Philosophy, Procedures, and Funding
      As echomail is always a prominent topic, and we have had a
      recent scare or two, it is worth discussing the philosophy,
      procedures, and economics of how we move echomail within the
      region.

    General Socializing


                           Saturday 28 July - Day
                         --------------------------

    Breakfast

    Product Presentations (each will be time limited as this is not
    a commercial meeting)
      o Hardware
        at least one modem manufacturer will be announcing a new
        product with interesting pricing and features
      o FidoNetware
        Bink's and Opus's hackers will be here, and others are
        deciding
      o Users may talk about those goodies whose authors/vendors are
        not present

    Lunch

    How we do it in our Net
      A R17Con tradition where some of the local nets describe some
      of the unique aspects of technology, procedures, financing,
      sex, ... in their local nets.

    Tricks of the Trade
      o Technical Questions and Answers
        a select panel of techies will answer questions (with help
        and jeering from the floor) about netware, modems, and
    FidoNews 7-28                Page 4                    9 Jul 1990


        hiding the expenses from the SO

    Dinner


                         Saturday 28 July - Evening
                         --------------------------

    Curmudgeon Tossing Contest
      Rules have been published in FidoNews.  Matt Whelan, IC, may
      donate one Get Out of Excommunication Free card to be awarded
      to the winning team.

    General Socializing


                          Sunday 29 July - Morning
                         --------------------------

    Breakfast

    Plans for Next Year's Meeting
      which net will be the victim?
      when should it be held?
      cost and other constraints

    General Gab and Wind-down and Other Things we've Forgotten


                             Loosely Scheduled
                         --------------------------

    Diskette Throwing Contest
      This traditional hotly contested event will have to be
      scheduled on an ad hoc basis, as the Columbia Gorge, though
      beautiful, has frequent winds.  Please remember that diskettes
      must be unaltered 5.25" disks, and accuracy is more important
      than distance.

    Dweeb Throwing Contest
      This new continuous event is open to both team and individual
      players, but no points are awarded unless you can provoke the
      dweeb into posting at least one embarrassingly inept echomail
      flame first.


                               W A R N I N G
                         --------------------------

    After much Net-1:105 and Region-1:17 discussion, it was agreed
    to hold this meeting at Menucha, despite the restriction that no
    drop-in attendees would be possible.  It was felt that Menucha's
    great facilities and scandalously low prices (you can do the
    entire meeting for about $75 including meals and accommodation!)
    were worth this retriction.

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 5                    9 Jul 1990


    This means that cruising up for the afternoon will not work.
    You either register for the meeting (one and two day plans are
    available), or "it's tough tamales."

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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 6                    9 Jul 1990


    Janet Murray
    1:105/23

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
      *              FIDONET REGION 17 CONVENTION                 *
      *               OFFICIAL REGISTRATION FORM                  *
      *                     July 27-29, 1990                      *
      *          Menucha Camp and Conference Grounds              *
      *                     Corbett, Oregon                       *
      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Name _____________________________   FidoNet Address _________

    SnailMail Address ___________________________________________

    ___________________________________________  Date Sent ______

    Voice phone (in case of questions): ________________________

    Please indicate for each person attending, the option selected,
    and fill in the appropriate charges:

    _Number_            _Name(s)_                   _Subtotals_

              Registration fee @ $5
    _____     (FidoNet Sysops ONLY)               $        _____

    OPTION A: Friday 5 p.m. to Sunday 11 a.m.
              DORM
    _____     Adult(s) __________________________ $  65.50 _____

    _____     Student(s) ________________________    56.50 _____
              (Age 12 to 18 OR Full-time student)
    _____     Child(ren) ________________________    36.25 _____
              (Age 11 and under)
    _____     Supply bedding @ $6 per person               _____

              SEMI-PRIVATE
    _____     Adult(s) __________________________    83.50 _____

    _____     Student(s) ________________________    56.50 _____
              (in parents' room)
    _____     Child(ren) ________________________    36.25 _____
              (in parents' room)

              PRIVATE
    _____     Adult(s) __________________________   102.50 _____

    OPTION B: Saturday 8 a.m. to Sunday 11 a.m.
              DORM
    _____     Adult(s) __________________________    48.00 _____

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 7                    9 Jul 1990


    _____     Student(s) ________________________    42.50 _____
              (Age 12 to 18 OR Full-time Student)
    _____     Child(ren) ________________________    29.50 _____
              (Age 11 and under)
    _____     Supply bedding @ $6 per person               _____

              SEMI-PRIVATE
    _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   59.00 _____

    _____     Student(s) _________________________   42.50 _____
              (in parents' room)
    _____     Child(ren) _________________________   29.50 _____
              (in parents' room)

              PRIVATE
    _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   72.50 _____

    OPTION C: Saturday 8 a.m. to Saturday 10 p.m.
    (Meals only, no accommodations)

    _____     Adult(s) ___________________________   37.00 _____

    _____     Student(s) _________________________   32.00 _____

    _____     Child(ren) _________________________   21.00 _____

              SUBTOTAL                             $           _____


    LATE REGISTRATION FEES (_after_ May 15th):

    ================================================================
    |     IMPORTANT NOTE: Since we must estimate  _and pay for_    |
    |     the number who will be attending by mid-May, there       |
    |   will be a limited number of places for late registrants!   |
    ================================================================

          Paid by June 15th:
    _____ Number of reservations @ $10     _____

          Paid by July 15th
    _____ Number of reservations @ $20     _____

          Paid after July 15th
    _____ Number of reservations @ $30     _____

                               TOTAL ADDITIONS       $         _____

                                 TOTAL PAYMENT ENCLOSED:       $ _____
    Make checks payable (in U.S. Funds) to:
    Net 105 Treasury / REG17CON

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 8                    9 Jul 1990


    Send registration to:

    Region 17 Convention
    c/o Ken Zwaschka
    Ken Zwaschka & Associates
    P.O. Box 2226
    Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. 97208-2226

    Reservations and room assignments will be confirmed via NetMail
    within 48 hours of receipt.

    Registration packets with a map to Menucha and information about
    Portland metropolitan area shopping and recreational faciltities
    will be mailed to all registrants on July 1st.

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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 9                    9 Jul 1990


    Announcing the release of the Socrates BBS System v1.00


    Features:

     - EXTREMELY customizable via Socrates BBS Programming System

     - Uses an alternate Subject-Oriented message system as well as
       regular Fido/Opus style

     - Has a completly flexibile access system; allows a full
       boolean logic statement instead of just a privelege level


    Uses standard *.MSG message format and works with most standard
    message utilities.

    Request SOCRATES from 1:150/199.0 (Delaware, max baud 2400)
                          1:140/24.0  (Saskatchewan, max baud 9600, HST)

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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 10                   9 Jul 1990


    * Software Review: Save the Planet

    Software Review: Save the Planet
    By Kevin Johnson, 141/552.2


       This is my first fidonews article, so you'll have to bear
    with me if it isn't perfect.

       A while ago, I ran across a piece of software that I thought
    was worth telling others about.  I found the software on my
    boss node, 1:141/552.0.  It's available there for file-request
    or download if you're interested, and I'm sure it's on dozens
    of other BBS's across the country.

       The program was called _Save the Planet_ and it bills itself
    as an "Environmental Database on Global Warming and Ozone
    Depletion."  It is all that and more!

       It is written by Roger & Kathy Cox of Pitkin, Colorado.  For
    this article all the usual disclaimers apply: I don't work for
    them, we don't own stock in some joint company, et cetera, et
    cetera.  And please don't let my lack of writing skills reflect
    on the program.  I just want to tell you all about this fine
    piece of shareware software called _Save the Planet_.

       Save the Planet (hereby referred to as STP) is "green"
    software.  It is designed to inform people about the
    environment in a truly innovative way.

       The program runs on any sort of monitor, it worked just fine
    on my CGA setup, and it'll run on anything from monochrome to
    the best VGA displays.  It requires 512k of RAM.  The program
    opens with a title screen and it shows a computer simulation
    of the growth of the hole in the ozone layer in Antarctica from
    1985-1987.  Seeing this graphically is really shocking.  That
    hole's definitely gotten much bigger in two years!

       On the main menu of STP it displays lettered options for all
    of the program's choices.  The main menu is divided into two
    categories, "Looking at the problem" and "Taking action to
    solve it."

       Under "Looking at the problem" it explains what global
    warming is and about things such as CFC's and most of the
    other environmental buzzwords that you hear.  Included in
    the explanations are graphs of different things.  There's such
    things as a list of books you can read for more information and
    much, much more.  There's even a "game" (if you could call
    something so serious a game - the program calls it that so
    that's what I'll call it too) or a model of how the earth will
    be effected by reducing or not reducing carbon dioxide
    emissions over the next 50 years.  The game lets you see what
    will happen if we choose not to reduce carbon dioxide emissions
    or what will happen at various levels of reduction.

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 11                   9 Jul 1990


       On the "Taking action to solve it" side of the menu, there
    is really some good stuff.  Included here is a complete
    database of how every one of our congresspersons voted on
    environmental matters.  You can look up to see how your Senator
    and/or Congressperson voted.  Included also is a listing of
    various environmental groups -- both major and minor -- and
    their particular areas of interest, if they have any.  There's
    also a mini-word processor to write your congressperson a
    letter telling them how you feel about the environment.
    There's sections on things like tips on how you can save
    energy, learn about recycling, be a more envionmental-concious
    consumer and much, much more.

       The program is really well done and all data in the program
    are from established sources.  I've barely scratched the
    surface of what is available in the program, but hopefully it
    is enough to make you want to see what the program really has
    to offer.  For such an important topic this program does a fine
    job of educating people about what is at stake if we do not
    get serious about protecting our environment and changing our
    lifestyles to become more environmentally-concious.

       Look for Save the Planet on your local bulletin board, I
    found version 1.14 as STP.ZIP and the archive was 188k.  Or
    you may reach the authors at:

    Save the Planet Shareware
    P.O. Box 45
    Pitkin, CO 81241
    (303) 641-5035

       The registration for the program is $15 which includes a
    free updated version which will come out after the fall
    elections.  A Macintosh version is supposed to be released
    this summer.


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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 12                   9 Jul 1990


         The Secret Sysop Society presents            __
               *** Conclave '90 ***                  /  \
               The SYSOPS Convention                /|oo \
               Home of FidoCon 1990                (_|  /_)
               Lyndhurst, New Jersey                _`@/_ \    _
                 August 1-5, 1990                  |     | \   \\
                                                   | (*) |  \   ))
                                      ______       |__U__| /  \//
                                     / Fido \       _//|| _\   /
                                    (________)     (_/(_|(____/ (tm)

    Rate Plan Schedule: (Hotel rooms cannot be guaranteed if you
                               register after July 1st!)
    A. Single Occupancy...................$545.00
    B. Double Occupancy...................$400.00
    C. Conference w/ meals................$250.00
    D. Conference w/ Banquet..............$105.00
    E. Conference only.....................$75.00
    F. Banquet only........................$30.00
    G. Registrant & Spouse................$670.00

    Plans A B & G include all conference and hotel fees and meals.
    Prices are for pre-registrants using this form only.

    You must pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card.  Please send
    no cash.  All monies must be in U.S. Funds.  Checks should be
    made out to: "Conclave '90"

    The following registration form must be completed and mailed to:
                        PO Box 12
                        Lyndhurst, NJ 07071

    You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/90 for
    processing.  Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone
    number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number.  US Mail
    confirmation is required within 72 hours of electronic filing.

    If you are paying by credit card, please include the required
    information.  For your own security, do not route any message
    with your credit card number on it.  Crash it directly to 1:1/90.

    The official Conclave '90 airline is American Airlines.
    American offers a 5% discount the lowest applicable round-trip
    fare, including 1st class travel, subject to availability of
    inventory.  All fare rules and restrictions apply.  In addition,
    American offers 40% off their round trip unrestricted day coach
    fare.  International travelers qualify for special benefits,
    including complimentary admittance to the Admiral's Club Lounge
    at any American Airlines terminal.  Newark is an American Air-
    lines city with direct flights to most major cities.  When making
    reservations, you must call American's Toll-free reservation
    number at 800-433-1790, and reference Star number 13704F.
    FidoNews 7-28                Page 13                   9 Jul 1990


        F I D O - C O N  '90   R E G I S T R A T I O N   F O R M

    Name: __________________________________________________________

    Address: _____________________________  Apt. or Suite: _________

    City: _________________________  State or Province: ____________

    Postal Code: __________________  Country: ______________________

    Voice Phone: ______________________  Data: _____________________

    Zone:Net/Node.Point@Domain: ____________________________________

    Special requirements: __________________________________________

    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | Option        | Full                |     | Pre-Reg. | Line  |
    |(Choose 1: A-G)| Name                | Qty | Pricing  | Total |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN A**      |                     |     | $545.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN B**      |                     |     | $400.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN C        |                     |     | $250.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN D        |                     |     | $105.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN E        |                     |     | $ 75.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN F        |                     |     | $ 30.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN G**      |                     |     | $670.00  |       |
    +===============+=====================+=====+==========+=======+
    |*NJ Beach Trip |                     |     | $  24.50 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    |*Eve. NYC Tour |                     |     | $  37.50 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    |*NYC Shop Tour |                     |     | $  36.50 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    |*Medieval Times|                     |     | $  50.00 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     ** includes registration, Hotel, and meals | Total  $ |       |
     *  Requires Pre-registration (before 7/1)  +==========+=======+

    MC _____  Visa _____  Card Number: _____________________________

    Expiration: ___________  Signature _____________________________
           ( Credit card registrations require valid signature )
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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 14                   9 Jul 1990


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                                 COLUMNS
    =================================================================

    Henry Clark
    124/6120


    I'll Go Long and You Fake It To Me --

    My favorite computer store has a 14 day money back guarantee.
    I go there 26 times a year !

    So Friday afternoon, I was in there returning a 286 clone.
    Some kind of goofy VLSI chip on the motherboard was trying to
    do EVERYTHING, and was latching the IRQ I needed, even though
    I'd clearly set the 'disable' jumper correctly.

    Those VLSI chips are neat, until you realize that if it goes
    bad, well forget the whole motherboard, it's worthless. Give me
    everything on the slot cards and socketed chips as well.  But
    then, that's another CAT FIGHT.

    I picked out a slightly more reasonable 286 clone, for slightly
    more money, and cruised through the rest of the store on the
    way to the cashier.

    'Honey Interrupt' :  Oh, I see, you'll shop the computer store,
    but you won't shop for shoes with me.  Hmmph !


    He's at Midfield --

    So anyways, I see this Hand SCANNER/OCR package sitting right
    there.  Shoot, there's dozens of them.  I grab it, pay for it (
    and the new clone ), and head on home.  I've been looking for
    this for weeks.

    Later that evening, I'm plugging in the bus card, and checking
    it all out, when young Kevin ( the Asst-sysop ) just sort of
    APPEARS.  Like from out of no where.  I start the DOS scanner
    program, and pull the scanner across a color photo of him.
    First scan, perfect, and his jaw drops off watching his FACE
    scroll onto the screen.

    You could see his little four year old muscles start twitching;
    hear his brain cells whirring, trying to figure a way to get at
    this 'toy' without getting Dad all riled up about breakage,
    dirt, expense, you know, all the things that keep him from
    playing with everything else I own.

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 15                   9 Jul 1990


    'Honey Interrupt' : ( Also appearing out of no where. ) So, how
    much did it cost ?

    So next I set up the paint/scan program and he recognizes the
    'paint game' immediately.  I started scanning another picture
    of him into the paint program window, and then :  QEMM
    EXCEPTION !  SET DMA=91.

    These are the absolute worst kinds of problems.  No not the
    software, the anxious kid in your face who wants to know when
    if it's fixed after every keystroke. A quick look at the
    Desqview book, and VIOLA : set the DMA buffer smaller. I went
    ahead and set it to 64 (k) in case Binkley decides to pull a
    fancy swap move.


    He's at The Goal Box --

    Well finally, I get back to the paint program, and hand it over
    to Mr. Hopping With Delight.  When he gets going, I just get
    out.

    'Honey Interrupt' :  Want to see what *I* bought today ?

    Sure, I say.  Out comes some new boots.  New Cowgirl boots at
    that. New Nieman Marcus Cowgirl boots.  ( Hey wait a second. )
    New Lizard-skin Nieman Marcus ITALIAN Cowgirl boots.  Groan.
    How much did those cost ?

    She: How much did your new computer toy cost ?

    So you're thinking "Why did he buy a 286 ?"  You're just like
    the damn salesmen at the store.  I'm gonna make a ROCK VIDEO,
    all right?.  In the final scene, we pour gasoline on it and it
    goes up in a huge fireball. OK, man ?  Where's your 20 inch
    monitors?

    The truth is even better.  I'm selling a turnkey system to a
    big giant corporation and the order calls for an AT compatible,
    color monitor and 80 meg hard disk.  So an AT is a 286.  I did
    get a nice VGA package, though.  Could'a stiffed them with CGA,
    but hey, I'm a nice guy.  I used the starch sparingly.


    It's a Shot on Goal --

    So in comes the 'Scan Master' with a piece of printer paper.
    Where did you learn to print ?  It's the button next to the
    Coke can, Dad.  ( What Coke can ? )

    I look at the paper, and there *I* am, with a scary hairdo,
    eyes like dead cartoon characters ( x x ), a huge beard and
    some kind of arrow/stick which appears to have entered at the
    back of my neck and come out through my stomach. When FIDONEWS
    goes graphic, I'll send it to ya.

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 16                   9 Jul 1990


    Finally, he get's off to bed, and I get to play with the OCR.
    It works !  It's actually pretty good at recognizing
    characters.  This program does not use specific font matching,
    so you don't get to 'train' the recognition function.  The
    post-match routine just gives you a picture of the unrecognized
    character ( usually two characters stuck together ), and you
    type in the two characters, or whatever it takes.

    I'm a real fast typist, and I believe I can get about two times
    that character rate per minute using the
    scan/recognize/correction cycle.  I can't wait to use the
    pictures in some desktop publishing.

    'Honey Interrupt' : When are you coming to bed ?

    Me : Are you going to wear your new boots ?
    Her: Are you going to look at your computer all night ?
    Me : I'll turn off the computer if you take off the boots.
    Her: I'll take back the boots if you take back the computer.
    Me : OK.

    It's Wide ! Wait, there's a red card...


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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 17                   9 Jul 1990


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                          Bulletin Board Software
    Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

    DMG            2.93*   Phoenix         1.3    TAG           2.5e*
    Fido            12s+   QuickBBS       2.64*   TBBS           2.1
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    Maximus        1.00    RemoteAccess    .03*   TPBoard        6.1*
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    Network                Node List              Other
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    Dutchie       2.90C    ParseList      1.30    ARCmail       2.07
    FrontDoor     1.99c*   Prune          1.40    ConfMail      4.00
    PRENM          1.47    SysNL          3.11    Crossnet      v1.5*
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    TIMS      1.0(Mod8)*   XlaxDiff       2.35*   Gmail         2.05
                           XlaxNode       2.35*   GROUP         2.16
                                                  GUS           1.30
                                                  INTERPCB      1.20*
                                                  LHARC         1.13
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                                                  PK[UN]ZIP     1.10*
                                                  QM             1.0
                                                  QSORT         4.03
                                                  Sirius        1.0w*
                                                  SLMAIL        1.35*
                                                  StarLink      1.01
                                                  TagMail       2.20
                                                  TCOMMail       2.2
                                                  Telemail      1.20*
                                                  TMail         1.15
                                                  TPBNetEd       3.2
                                                  TosScan       1.00*
                                                  UFGATE        1.03
                                                  XRS           3.20*
                                                  ZmailQ        1.10
    FidoNews 7-28                Page 18                   9 Jul 1990


                                Macintosh
                                ---------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Red Ryder Host  v2.1b10   Tabby         2.2   MacArc        0.04
    Mansion            7.15   Copernicus   1.0d*  ArcMac         1.3
    WWIV (Mac)          3.0                       StuffIt       1.51
    FBBS               0.91*                      TImport      1.331
    Hermes             0.88*                      TExport       1.32
                                                  Timestamp      1.6
                                                  Tset           1.3
                                                  Import         3.2
                                                  Export        3.21
                                                  Sundial        3.2
                                                  PreStamp       3.2
                                                  OriginatorII   2.0
                                                  AreaFix        1.6
                                                  Mantissa       3.21
                                                  Zenith         1.5
                                                  UNZIP        1.02b

                                  Amiga
                                  -----

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    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Paragon            2.06+  BinkleyTerm  1.00   AmigArc       0.23
                              TrapDoor     1.50*  AReceipt       1.5*
                              WelMat       0.35   booz          1.01
                                                  ConfMail      1.10
                                                  ChameleonEdit 0.10
                                                  ElectricHerald1.66*
                                                  Lharc         1.10
                                                  MessageFilter 1.52*
                                                  oMMM         1.49b
                                                  ParseLst      1.30
                                                  PkAX          1.00
                                                  PK[UN]ZIP     1.01
                                                  PolyxAmy      2.02*
                                                  RMB           1.30
                                                  TrapList      1.12*
                                                  UNzip         0.86
                                                  Yuck!         1.61*
                                                  Zoo           2.00

                                Atari ST
    FidoNews 7-28                Page 19                   9 Jul 1990


                                --------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailer      Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    FIDOdoor/ST        1.5c*  BinkleyTerm 1.03g3  ConfMail      1.00
    Pandora BBS       2.41c   The BOX     1.20    ParseList     1.30
    QuickBBS/ST        0.40                       ARC           6.02*
    GS Point           0.61                       LHARC         0.51
                                                  LED ST        0.10*
                                                  BYE           0.25*
                                                  PKUNZIP       1.10
                                                  MSGED        1.96S
                                                  SRENUM         6.2
                                                  Trenum        0.10
                                                  OMMM          1.40


                               Archimedes
                               ----------

    BBS Software           Mailers                Utilities
    Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

    ARCbbs         1.44*   BinkleyTerm    2.03*   Unzip        2.1TH
                                                  ARC           1.03
                                                  !Spark       2.00d*

                                                  ParseLst      1.30
                                                  BatchPacker   1.00*


    + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
    * Recently changed

    Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
    reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
    all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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    FidoNews 7-28                Page 20                   9 Jul 1990


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                                 NOTICES
    =================================================================

                         The Interrupt Stack


    14 Jul 1990
       Start of Eurocon / Techcon conference in Antwerp, Belgium.
       Please note that the date has changed: The conferences are
       one day later than originally planned !

    15 Jul 1990
       Michael Keller, sysop of 1:170/401, will be wedded to Ruby Morain.

    27 Jul 1990
       The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in
       the Columbia Gorge, Oregon.  For details contact Ken Zwaschka,
       1:105/54.

     1 Aug 1990
       Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for
       details.

    17 Aug 1990
       Start of first ever Searchlight SysOps convention in Chicago, IL.
       Contact Marge Robbins at 1:283/120 for details.

     5 Oct 1990
       21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

     6 Nov 1990
       First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28

    14 Nov 1990
       Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
       2:332/16.0

     1 Jan 1991
       Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
       Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.

    16 Feb 1991
       Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.

     7 Oct 1991
       Area code  415  fragments.   Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
       will  begin  using  area  code  510.   This includes  Oakland,
       Concord, Berkeley  and  Hayward.    San  Francisco, San Mateo,
       Marin, parts of  Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
       Islands will retain area code 415.

    FidoNews 7-28                Page 21                   9 Jul 1990


     1 Feb 1992
       Area  code 213 fragments.    Western,  coastal,  southern  and
       eastern portions of Los Angeles  County  will begin using area
       code 310.  This includes Los  Angeles  International  Airport,
       West  Los  Angeles,  San  Pedro and Whittier.    Downtown  Los
       Angeles  and  surrounding  communities  (such as Hollywood and
       Montebello) will retain area code 213.

     5 Jun 1997
       David Dodell's 40th Birthday


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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    Harvey Wyche
    Fido 1:11/15

                           New NUTRITION Echo

    The OpLine  BBS / Health and Nutrition Opinion Line at 1:11/15 in
    Evansville, IN.   is  sponsoring  a  new  NUTRITION  Echo.    The
    Conference Moderator is Harvey  Wyche.  Messages on the NUTRITION
    Echo deal with food and  nutrition  issues as they relate to good
    health.

    NUTRITION functions as an open forum  for the expression of ideas
    and opinions as well as the exchange  of  news  and helpful hints
    about nutrition and diet.  The Echo is  not  part  of  any  diet,
    weight loss center, or nutritional program.  One of  the  special
    features of the Echo is the weekly posting of requested  Nutrient
    Analyses of common foods (including many fast food items).

    David Dodell at St.  Joes Hospital at 1:114/15 has offered to act
    as HUB for the NUTRITION Echo.  If you would like to  participate
    in  the  Echo,  please contact me via netmail at 1:11/15.  I will
    advise you  as  to  when  the  feed  for  your  system  has  been
    activated.

    Your participation is  most  welcome.  We look forward to hearing
    from you within the Echo.  Thank you.

    Harvey...

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