Volume 6, Number 36                              4 September 1989
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    Editor in Chief:                                  Vince Perriello
    Editors Emeritii:                                     Dale Lovell
                                                       Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

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    Association  as  its  official newsletter.  You are encouraged to
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    We  don't necessarily agree with the contents  of  every  article
    published  here.  Most of these materials are  unsolicited.    No
    article submitted  by  a  FidoNet SysOp will be rejected if it is
    properly attributed and  legally  acceptable.    We  will publish
    every responsible submission received.


                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
       Having a good time, Glad I'm still here  ..................  1
    2. ARTICLES  .................................................  2
       DeathNet Sparks Life in IFNA  .............................  2
       IFNA: Do or Die  ..........................................  8
       NCLM Contest 2  ........................................... 12
       New Nodes Starting In FidoNet  ............................ 14
       Elections in FidoNet  ..................................... 15
       An Apology of Sorts  ...................................... 19
    3. LATEST VERSIONS  .......................................... 20
       Latest Software Versions  ................................. 20
    And more!
    FidoNews 6-36                Page 1                    4 Sep 1989


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                                EDITORIAL
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    Hi there.

    A funny thing happened to me on the way to the retirement home.

    You might say that I changed my mind, and leave  it at that.  But
    actually, there was much more to it.

    You see, I received some very touching mail from  a lot of people
    out  there.  Several friends  also  asked  me  to  re-examine  my
    reasons for leaving the job of FidoNews Editor. And so I did.

    What I discovered was that I actually liked the job.  And that in
    spite of some of the problems that  I  have had, it was worth it.
    So when I was asked again at FidoCon  whether  I would be willing
    to  reconsider, my response was that if the IFNA board wanted  me
    to stay, I would do so.

    They asked.  I'm staying.  Thank you all for your kind mail.

    Thanks  also to those of you who volunteered to take on the  job.
    It's good to know that there are so many of you out there who are
    willing to do good things just for the sake of seeing them done.

    Now, on to  something much more interesting.  There is a net-wide
    plebiscite coming.  I can't emphasize enough how important I feel
    it is for everyone in  FidoNet  to vote in it.  Whether your vote
    is in the affirmative or negative is up to you (in fact I haven't
    decided yet), but you really should vote,  one  way or the other.

    The right to vote is just like a  lot  of  other  things:  if you
    don't use it, you may lose it.  Don't take that chance.  When the
    time comes, cast your ballot.

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                                ARTICLES
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    Matt Whelan
    3:712/627

                   DeathNet Sparks Life in IFNA
                   ----------------------------

    A funny thing happened on the way to FidoCon '89: members of the
    Secret Sysop Society, a group from New Jersey's 'affectionately
    named' DeathNet-107, hatched a careful and clever plot for a
    dramatic palace revolution.

    And while their plan blew up almost as spectacularly in its
    failure as it would have in success, they achieved A Good Thing
    for IFNA and, by implication, FidoNet<tm>.

    Having watched the palace revolution unfold and fail, yet still
    achieve something undeniably significant, I feel compelled to
    share my observations. This "one man's viewpoint" of FidoCon is
    my attempt -- as a participant in the most political event in my
    sheltered life -- to share some of the background to a truly
    amazing weekend.


    If At First You Don't Succeed . . .
    -----------------------------------

    I remember DeathNet from Cincinnati. It was my first visit to
    FidoCon, and they were there in the background in support of an
    attempt to have IFNA appoint a VPTC (Vice-President Technical
    Coordinator, who had also served as FidoNet International
    Coordinator in the past) who would, in effect, "put David Dodell
    in his place".

    I couldn't help wondering what it was that bothered them so much.
    My experience of FidoNet had been mostly good, especially after I
    discovered my personal savior: it only hurts when you take it too
    seriously.

    They seemed to be taking it far too seriously.

    But that was more a mild undercurrent of discontent than a palace
    revolution. While there was no shortage of politics in Cincinnati
    (at first I was silly enough to think I was there just to party),
    it was more a game than a battle.

    San Jose was a different story. Still unhappy with the FidoNet
    coordinator structure, the Secret Sysops wanted to change the
    world. This time, they had more than just an idea: they had a
    detailed, timed-to-the-minute battle plan, the result of three
    months of careful -- and one might even say furtive -- preparation.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 3                    4 Sep 1989


    There's no doubt the world of IFNA needed changing. It was
    limping from fight to fight as it traversed the back alleys of
    FidoNet, hauling itself from impotence to incapacity. Many of us
    went to FidoCon hoping to find some way to revive the good in
    IFNA, despite the increasing attractiveness of euthanasia.

    Few of us, however, shared the apparent DeathNet view that
    FidoNet needed saving from itself. Even fewer saw IFNA as the
    vehicle.


    Instant Takeover
    ----------------

    The scheme to take control of IFNA was brilliant in conception,
    masterful in execution, and 'politically perfect' in timing.

    While most people shrugged their shoulders and muttered about
    'another screw-up' when the IFNA Board of Directors crippled
    Vince Perriello's Bylaw amendment intended to enfranchise all
    sysops, the Secret Sysops exploited it to maximum advantage.

    It was almost impossible for non-IFNA members to take advantage
    of the new At-Large membership category, tied as it was to a 180-
    day qualifying period. The key here is 'almost', as discussion at
    the intense every-Tuesday-night DeathNet meetings clearly
    discovered.

    Armed with this realization, DeathNet prepared its attack.
    Notarized papers were drawn up, applications for At-Large
    membership completed, votes in the IFNA BoD elections filled out,
    and membership fees of $5.77 collected.

    A bare 10 minutes before the close of voting at FidoCon, the New
    Jersey delegation declared its hand. The first victory was won,
    and it seated no less than nine 'friendly' board members at the
    first post-election BoD meeting.

    IFNA's history of indecision and inaction was about to change,
    and not even the F-37 Stealth Cookie could overshadow it.


    Majority Rules, Okay?
    ---------------------

    Key players Phil Buonomo and Fabian Gordon rolled out duly
    notarized proxies from the newly elected BoD members. The pair
    carried six votes between them.

    With the commitment of Thom Henderson, Tony Davis, and one or two
    others to the revolution, they almost had a majority without
    making a move. By the time they counted the votes of sympathizers
    who were easily convinced it was time for 'action at any cost',
    they 'owned' the board as it stood that day.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 4                    4 Sep 1989


    Once this became clear, the rest of the agenda was rolled out.
    Slowly and quietly and, at first, only in the proverbial smoke-
    filled back rooms. My support was sought in one such meeting,
    where it finally became clear to me how good their basic concept
    was, and how disastrous their planned method of implementation.

    With control of the BoD, they intended to:

    1) Appoint Ben Baker VPTC.

    2) Re-establish the original VPTC-is-the-FidoNet-IC relationship
    and, effectively, take immediate control of FidoNet.

    3) Reject Policy 4.

    4) Implement Bylaw changes which would enfranchise all FidoNet
    sysops as IFNA members (essentially a repeat of Vince Perriello's
    amendment, without the limitations applied by the outgoing BoD).

    [There were 'smaller' items on the agenda, like the clumsy
    attempt to have the board accept New Jersey as the site of
    FidoCon 1990 without the usual involvement of the Site Selection
    Committee, while I also heard rumors (they wouldn't have told me
    this one to my face!) they wanted to abolish Zones. Yet these
    seem somehow incidental . . . ]

    They believed the net would 'buy' this instant-democracy, even
    though it could not vote on the validity of the upheaval (or the
    further planned changes) for another full year. I believed the
    net would say "screw you", IFNA would go out with a bang, and
    there'd be more hate, more fighting, more unnecessary pain in
    FidoNet while it happened.

    Too many things have been done to FidoNet without its consent.
    This plan, while perhaps admirable, was just another example of
    someone else making up our minds for us.

    I volunteered support for any scheme which made all these things
    available for the net to choose *after* being consulted. I could
    not support yet another example of "trust us, we're doing this
    for your own good".


    Vested Interests?
    -----------------

    Right now you might be wondering about the motives of the new IC,
    sitting there watching his job go up in smoke.

    Let me guarantee you I would gladly have given it to anyone
    with believable plans to advance FidoNet. But I would not happily
    hand it over to a scheme which I believed had less chance of
    working -- and more chance of doing real damage -- than the
    current system.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 5                    4 Sep 1989


    This is not the time for me to go into detail on my hopes for the
    FidoNet of the future -- you'll hear about that soon enough --
    but suffice to say I would not have taken the job if I didn't
    firmly believe the current structure has the potential to satisfy
    the desires of the vast majority of sysops.

    And I believed this satisfaction could be achieved more smoothly,
    more cleanly, and less painfully than by any sort of revolution,
    now matter how noble.


    Spanners In The Works
    ---------------------

    Many other people whose opinions I respect deeply -- like Vince
    Perriello, Bob Hartman, Randy Bush, and even 'grandfather' Tom
    Jennings, to name just a few -- worried as much as I did about
    the DeathNet takeover.

    They've all been outspoken about IFNA's failure, and they've all
    been outspoken about failings of the current structure. They have
    no particular axe to grind, nor any 'position of power' to
    protect.

    They, too, feel strongly that good things should be done *by*
    FidoNet, not 'for' or 'to' FidoNet.

    These people are but a small-yet-prominent sampling of the larger
    group which saw the palace revolution as a potential declaration
    of war. And who did something about it.


    The Battle Begins
    -----------------

    While the revolutionaries sought to consolidate their voting
    power, the rest of us sat and stared at the face of defeat. We
    worried about the death of IFNA, which had done (and could still
    do) some good for the net.

    We talked about possible reactions from the sysops, the
    developers, and the *C structure. We discovered ways of pulling
    the rug from under IFNA's feet if it did attempt to take control.
    And all the time we struggled with ways to make IFNA meaningful
    without it having to be a choice between explosion and implosion.

    The only way out was voting power, but even that we considered a
    stalling tactic at best. We had no idea it would bring a
    meaningful result, and were concerned it would merely help IFNA
    sink further into lethargy.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 6                    4 Sep 1989


    Besides, to get our voting power we really needed to pull a
    rabbit out of a hat. [Bob Hartman has a more graphic description
    of where it was eventually extracted from, but that's another
    story . . .]

    Our first move was to make sure all votes were represented. BoD
    members who hadn't made it to FidoCon were contacted, and proxy
    or 'alternate' votes obtained. Outgoing IFNA President Bob
    Rudolph flooded the San Jose Holiday Inn with faxes declaring the
    validity of his alternate, Joe Keenan. Grandfather No. 2 Ken
    Kaplan phoned his proxy confirmation into the Saturday night
    board meeting, just seconds before the important voting started.
    I carried Bill Bolton's vote from Division 12 after my own BoD
    term expired the previous day.

    And then there were the two vacancies. While the revolutionaries
    believed they could place their own candidates here, sealing
    their majority, we believed otherwise. One vacancy was for the
    newly-created Division 3 (Australia), and I was the only Division
    3 resident in sight.

    As soon as I was voted into that position, I made a nomination
    for the remaining at-large vacancy. Only a Curmudgeon could have
    thought of it, and I thank him for it -- my nomination was Tom
    Jennings.

    Not even the palace revolutionaries would want to be seen denying
    the 'founding father' a place in such important decision-making . . .

    TJ is a forthright, honest, speak-from-the-heart kind of person
    who has no time for political games. I think he'd prefer being
    lost in a desert than sitting comfortably in a board meeting but,
    thankfully, he felt strongly enough about the future of his
    'baby' to take a seat on the BoD.

    All of a sudden, the voting looked a lot more equal . . .


    The Final Countdown
    -------------------

    Bill Bolton was re-elected VPTC. Wrong man for this particular
    revolution. Les Kooyman, FidoCon organizer, political scientist,
    voice of reason, presenter of the FidoCon Democracy session, was
    voted into the President's position. Wrong man for a revolution
    the people didn't know about.

    DeathNet's proposed Bylaw changes had little chance of achieving
    the two-thirds majority needed for success -- except for the one
    enfranchising all sysops as no-charge IFNA members.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 7                    4 Sep 1989


    Further attempts at imposing control were going nowhere in an
    arduous almost-all-night BoD meeting, until Phil Buonomo's
    "Yellow Piece Of Paper" (standing out from the mass of white-
    paper motions, it became known as the YPOP solution) was read to
    the group in response to a request to lay *all* the cards on the
    table.

    It, too, was planned as a "we'll do it now, and let the people
    judge us later". But it had potential, if only it could be
    applied more reasonably.

    Aggression receded. YPOP -- the skeleton of the IFNA plebiscite
    motion announced in FidoNews 625 -- could become a real solution,
    without the explosion.

    It was a chance to start over on IFNA, a return to Colorado
    Springs with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.

    It was a chance for the net to decide its future -- with everyone
    taking part, not just hearing about it afterwards.

    It required compromise. Without the votes to force it through,
    DeathNet had to accept less than instant revolution. It had to
    accept a majority-of-the-net vote, not just the 'majority of the
    vocal minority' support it had in mind. It had to be a net
    decision, not a top-down edict.

    Either group could have stalled IFNA into its grave by holding
    firm. But if we could agree on the concept, and give it to the
    net to decide, we would have something special.

    We met on the middle ground. YPOP, considered only a part of the
    revolutionary package, became THE package. Trimmed and tidied, it
    became the high point of the political side of FidoCon.

    It is a victory for DeathNet, a far better victory than it
    sought. And it is your chance to join in the decision making, in
    the molding of FidoNet for the future -- no matter what the
    result, FidoNet will be a better place.

    But it will only happen if you participate. It's time to stop
    talking and start doing . . .

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    FidoNews 6-36                Page 8                    4 Sep 1989


    Thom Henderson
    Chairman of the Board (?!?!)
    International FidoNet Association


                             IFNA: Do or Die

    I just got back from  FidoCon'89  late  last  night  (early  this
    morning),  and  right  off the bat the very first thing I want to
    say is that it was a great convention!  Let's  have  a  round  of
    applause  for the gang in the Bay Area for doing such a wonderful
    job!  (clap,  clap,  cheers  from  the  sidelines,  whistles,  et
    cetera)

    There were a lot of good seminars with good speakers, somewhat to
    my  surprise  there  was  a very good after dinner speech by John
    Dvorak after the banquet,  and there were  scads  of  interesting
    people (i.e. sysops) to meet and talk with.  One rather odd thing
    did happen,  though.  Somehow I wound up as Chairman of the Board
    of IFNA.  I'm still not quite sure how/why that happened,  but it
    made  for some interesting experiences (and I'm sure it'll keep a
    couple of echomail conferences from getting too dull in the  next
    few months).

    So what am I going to do as Chairman of the Board?  Not much, and
    mostly it's already done.  A Chairman doesn't do much of anything
    except chair the board meeting (just like the  title  says),  and
    that's  over  (more  on  that in a minute).  The chairman doesn't
    make motions and can't even vote (except to break a tie).

    While I'm on this subject,  let me mention a few  things  that  I
    most  certainly WON'T do.  There were a lot of rumors and a large
    measure of loose talk and fairly brainless gum-flapping going  on
    in a couple of suites about What I'm Going To Do that ought to be
    addressed.

     *  I'm not going to outlaw Wazoo.

     *  I'm not going to mandate that GroupMail replace echomail.

     *  I'm not going to charge people to be in the node list.

     *  I'm not going to "use my position to commercialize the net"
        (whatever THAT means).

    Let's get real, people.  Even assuming I wanted to do any of that
    (which I don't),  none of it is anything that a chairman  of  the
    board  can  do.  For  that  matter,  none  of it is anything that
    anyone could do if the sysops don't want  it  done.  Anybody  who
    thinks they are going to make 4,000 sysops (or even one sysop) do
    anything  they  don't  want  should  have his head examined.  The
    FidoNet sysops are going to continue to do as  they  damned  well
    please.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 9                    4 Sep 1989


    So what *AM* I  going  to  do?  Like  I  said,  chair  the  board
    meeting,  which  is  over.  If you don't mind,  I'd really rather
    talk about that.

    It  was  a  heck of a board meeting!  The best I've ever seen.  I
    guess an advantage of me being the chair is that it got a lot  of
    people  involved.  The first board meeting was Friday night,  and
    it was pretty much restricted to a few officer elections.  Me  as
    chairman,  Kris  Veitch as secretary/treasurer,  and John Knox as
    acting secretary.  Everything else was postponed  until  Saturday
    night.  Then  all  day  Saturday  right up to (and even into) the
    board meeting phone calls went all over the place, locating every
    board member who wasn't there and obtaining a proxy  for  someone
    who  WAS  there.  The  only  one who couldn't be reached was Henk
    Wevers,  who is on vacation.  The two vacancies on the board were
    both filled as soon as the board resumed session,  so as a result
    23 out of 24 board seats were  represented  during  the  session.
    That's the highest percentage we've ever had!

    And John Knox did a great job of keeping track of everything that
    happened  (I'll  say he did an outstanding job if I get a copy of
    the minutes later this week [*grin*]).  Full minutes should be in
    the next issue of FidoNews. (If they aren't, then my own somewhat
    less complete notes will be in the following issue and I'll be on
    a plane to Oklahoma to visit John [*wider grin*].) The full  list
    of  everyone who served on the board will be in the minutes,  but
    here's my own slightly sketchy list:

        Stephen Barnes
        Bill Bird
        Phil Buonomo
        Randy Bush
        Jim Cannell
        Don Daniels
        Tony Davis
        Fabian Gordon
        Bob Hartman
        Thom Henderson
        Tom Jennings
        Steve Jordan
        Joe Keenan
        John Knox
        John Lamb
        Rob Lerman
        Vince Perriello
        Mort Sternheim
        Matt Whelan

        My apologies to anyone I left out.  Lest I forget, the new
        officers are:

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 10                   4 Sep 1989


             President:               Les Kooyman
             Vice President           Fabian Gordon
             Vice President/TC:       Bill Bolton
             Secretary/Treasurer:     Kris Veitch


    As  you  can  see,   we  had  a  pretty   high-powered   meeting.
    Surprisingly,  it  went  very smoothly (aside from the occasional
    curmudgeon in need of sitting-on).  There was a  lot  of  serious
    discussion, but it never got heated.  We were never even close to
    having a shouting match.

    A  lot  of  the  attendees had very definite goals they wanted to
    accomplish.  Said goals weren't always compatible,  but a plan of
    action  was  hammered  out that is going to make major changes in
    what IFNA is and how it works.  To sum it up in a  nutshell,  one
    of two things is going to happen:

     1) IFNA is going to become what it was meant to be, the
        democratic voice of the sysops in network management.

     2) Or, IFNA is going to be dissolved.

    The choice, of course,  is yours.  You'll be hearing soon (if you
    haven't  heard  already)  that  there is a referendum coming that
    will be asking YOU which of the  above  you  would  like  to  see
    happen.

    By  "you"  I  don't mean "you who paid $25 to join IFNA",  I mean
    "you the sysop of a public BBS in FidoNet".  One  of  the  things
    that happened was that the IFNA bylaws were amended to make every
    sysop in FidoNet a full voting member of IFNA -- no dues or  fees
    required.   IFNA  is  now  where  it  belongs,   in  your  hands.
    Furthermore,  if the majority of *ALL* FidoNet sysops don't  vote
    in  favor  of  rebuilding IFNA,  then IFNA will be dissolved.  No
    hanky panky,  no hedging,  no waffling about what the lack  of  a
    vote means.  If IFNA does not receive a solid "YES" vote from the
    majority of all sysops, it's history.  If a sysop cares so little
    that he does not bother to cast a vote, then that will be exactly
    the same as voting against IFNA.

    Furthermore,  the referendum is mandated to be completed no later
    than  1 December 1989.  As far as I'm concerned,  that means that
    if it isn't,  then IFNA will be dissolved.  Granted that  a  net-
    wide  referendum is a fairly major undertaking involving a lot of
    cooperation  from  a  lot  of  people (including,  I'm sure,  the
    existing *C structure).  But if IFNA  is  unable  to  garner  the
    support or the manpower  to  coordinate  the  vote,  then  in  my
    opinion it is not worthy to be trusted with network management.

    It goes even beyond that.  If  passed,  the  referendum  mandates
    that  IFNA  must  submit  a  new  set of bylaws and a new network
    policy document to the  sysops  for  approval  no  later  than  1
    February 1990.  This means that before the February board meeting
    IFNA must:

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 11                   4 Sep 1989


     1) Run a net-wide vote of all sysops asking if IFNA should
        manage FidoNet.

     2) Win the vote by a clear majority of all sysops.

     3) Draft new bylaws and a new policy document.

     4) Run another vote for approval/disapproval of the proposed
        bylaws and policy.

     5) Have the proposed bylaws and policy approved by the
        membership (i.e. the sysops).

    Anything  less  than  100% and IFNA will be history.  If it can't
    get the support and/or can't do the work,  then it's high time we
    quit wasting time on it.

    We'll  soon  know  if IFNA can handle the job.  Even sooner we'll
    know if YOU want it to try.





    Closing notes:

     *  My thanks to Randy Bush, who was instrumental in developing
        the wording of the referendum.  I'm looking forward to seeing
        him again at the February board meeting.

     *  My special thanks to Phil Buonomo, who through months of
        seemingly endless devotion, persuasion, legwork, and sheer
        drive is the man who really made all this happen.

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    FidoNews 6-36                Page 12                   4 Sep 1989


    Butch Witherspoon
    Fido 1:288/525
                     National Computer Learning Month
                       1989 CONTESTS FOR STUDENTS
       Video/Storyboards on Using Computers and Software as Tools

    6 Grand Prizes: One grand prize winner in each category. The
    winner and his/her school or organization will both recieve a
    computer system.

    24 Second Prizes: Four second prize winners in each category.
    Each winner and his/her school or organization will recieve
    software programs.

    48 Third Prizes: Honorable mention certificates for winning
    students.

    Categories:
    Elementary (kindergarten-grade five)
    Middle (Grades 6-8)
    Secondary (Grades 9-12)

    Description: Computers and software are wonderful tools for
    creating video presentations. To produce exciting video
    presentations, students can develop thier own scripts and
    graphics, animate pictures and words, sequence computer screens,
    connect a computer to a video camera or add captions or computer
    generated art to videotapes they have made.

    Rules: To enter this contest, submit your original video
    presentation with the theme of using computers and software as
    tools. The video presentation may not exceed 30 minutes. The
    presentation might be a fictional or cartoon story that
    introduces people to the value of computers and software as tools
    or a serious presentation of how to use a computer and software
    as a tool in a specific way. You do not have to use a computer or
    video equipment to produce the presentation; however, the theme
    must be using computers and software as tools. If you produce a
    video tape, submit it as your entry. If you use a computer, do
    not send a disk; either send a videotape of your presentation
    being presented on the screen or send a printout of each screen
    (storyboard) in the correct order. If you do not use a computer,
    submit storyboards of your video presentation using any materials
    you have available. Storyboards are pictures of what each screen
    in a video looks like, put in the correct order. Entries will be
    judged on originality, content, quality of script or story,
    design, illustration and overall attention to detail.

    Join the National Computer Learning Month Echo and get in on the
    excitement! For more information send NetMail to Butch
    Witherspoon, SEGUARO BBS, Fido 1:288/525 or write to NCLM Echo,
    P.O. Box 8045, Granite City, IL 62040-8045.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 13                   4 Sep 1989


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    FidoNews 6-36                Page 14                   4 Sep 1989


    Geoff Leff
    Opus  3:640/200


                    New Nodes Starting In FidoNet

    I've been part of FidoNet for approximately 3 years now. I've
    been a user for the most part,  and recently became a sysop of
    my own board around 6 months ago.  I'm sure most of you probably
    agree that I am still a baby in the life of FidoNet, although,
    I feel I should express my views on a subject.  I would like to
    make it clear though, that I am in no way trying to blame
    anybody, and even the party's involved are at no immediate fault
    of their own.

    When I started as a sysop of my own OPUS CBCS, I received a lot
    of help from fellow sysops helping me get set up properly, and
    I thank them for it, but the reason I am submitting this
    article, is my concern that other new sysops might have to go
    through the same ordeal as I did.  It all started once I
    received my NEW long awaited node number, as a new sysop and
    member of FidoNet,  there was still lots of information that I
    wasn't aware of at the time, one of which was that it was left
    up to me to tell all the sysops involved up the track who I was
    polling off of, so that they can adjust their routing files
    accordingly.  I admit it should be up to me to tell the people
    involved, after all, I'm the new kid on the block.  What
    concerns me though, is how all these people expect a
    'New Kid On The Block' to know who in fact is supposed to know
    this information.  An example,  As a 'New Kid On The Block' I
    decide to poll off of Joe Bloggs of 640/999.   I am expected to
    know all the boards that would be part of the routing so that I
    can tell them that I now poll off of 640/999.  As you may guess
    this can sometimes be a little difficult, as I found out when I
    started to poll from a node in Brisbane and then tried about 3
    months later with another node in Sydney. Both times It took
    countless messages all over the place, a lot of angry people and
    of course a few voice calls interstate.  It was getting to the
    point where I was starting to think it wasn't worth the trouble.
    Well,  I'm happy to say,  I am now properly set up in everyone's
    routing files,  but only after a lot of headache's.  What I'm
    suggesting here is just a simple clause in a message to let
    him/her know which sysops need to know of your existance.
    It's only common courtesy to let him/her know anyway,  so how
    about it fellow sysops, us new nodes are the reason FidoNet
    exists,  if it wasn't for us,  there would be no need for
    such a network.  I would really like to hear some people's
    views on this subject, so feel free to send me netmail on
    3:640/200.

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    FidoNews 6-36                Page 15                   4 Sep 1989


                          Elections in FidoNet

    Steve Bonine, 115/777


    Selection of FidoNet coordinators by election is becoming quite
    common in FidoNet.  Unfortunately, the experience gained in
    conducting those elections has not been shared as widely as it
    should have been.  Thus, we have each net or region re-inventing
    the wheel for each election.  This takes extra time, and does not
    provide a consistent process throughout the network.  I hope that
    this article will serve as a step towards sharing what we have
    learned, as it is only through learning from the experience of
    conducting elections that the best policy can be formulated.

    Not all election procedures should be exactly the same, since not
    all election environments in FidoNet are the same.  An election
    in a Net with five members is not the same as one conducted in a
    large Region.  However, there are aspects which are common, and a
    set of election guidelines is a valuable tool for introducing
    democracy into FidoNet.

    Software
    --------

    How important is specialized software for conducting elections in
    FidoNet?  When the issue was first raised, I believed that an
    election would not be possible without such software.  I no
    longer hold that opinion, although I do see how such utilities
    could save time for the person(s) conducting the election.  For a
    small election on a local net level, such software would probably
    be more trouble than it was worth, unless votes are common.

    Such software could perform several valuable functions.  It could
    make voting easy, thus encouraging a high turnout.  It could
    prepare confirmations and lists of votes, removing the burden
    from the vote conductor.  Finally, it could improve the security
    of the election, and perhaps even provide a completely secret
    ballot.

    There are, however, several disadvantages to using specialized
    voting software.  It must be installed on each voter's system, so
    the design must emphasize ease of installation and ease of use.
    It must be available for many different platforms, as we have
    many different hardware configurations in FidoNet, ranging from
    vanilla MS-DOS to almost-compatibles to non-IBM and non-MS-DOS.
    Designing an easy-to-install, easy-to-use, foolproof system for
    this environment is quite a challenge.  Finally, the introduction
    of voting software may in fact REDUCE confidence in the election;
    "black boxes" and "magic" are generally distrusted, whereas
    sending a netmail message is something that is easy and
    comfortable.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 16                   4 Sep 1989


    The bottom line is that successful elections have been conducted
    without the use of specialized voting software.  If such systems
    become available in the future they may enhance the election
    process, but they are not a prerequisite.

    The Tradeoff
    --- --------

    There is a basic conflict in FidoNet voting between secrecy of
    ballot and ability to verify the vote.  I feel that a secret
    ballot is entirely as important as the vote process itself.  In
    an election for the local NC, I don't want my friend to know that
    I didn't vote for him.  It's none of his business, or anyone
    else's business, who I voted for.

    The closest we can come to a true secret ballot in FidoNet, short
    of using voting software, is to choose an individual to conduct
    the election.  This individual must have certain qualifications:
    not be a candidate for the office, be honest, and be trusted by
    all parties.  However, no matter how noble the individual is who
    conducts the election, safeguards should be put in place to
    insure that there is no question as to the conduct and count.
    Such safeguards are as much for the benefit of the vote conductor
    as for the protection of all candidates.

    The Safeguard
    --- ---------

    There are ways to provide a public check on the vote count
    without compromising the principle of a secret ballot.  These
    ideas are not my own, but have been set forward in various
    echomail conferences, including the pol5_dem development effort.
    At first, I thought that this was a lot of trouble for the poor
    snook conducting the election, with little actual benefit.  As
    the discussion progressed, it became clear that there is extra
    effort, but significant benefit.  Not only does this scheme
    prevent deliberate fraud, but it catches honest mistakes.  Even
    saints have been known to make an occasional clerical error.

    The idea is simple.  Each voter is assigned a password, known
    only to that voter.   (Or the voter picks a password when casting
    the vote.)  Then individual votes are posted, using these
    passwords.  Each voter can verify their individual vote, but
    cannot deduce others' votes.

    One more piece of information is necessary -- a list of the nodes
    who voted.  Without that cross-check, the vote conductor could
    "stuff the ballot box" to the extent that people did not vote,
    making up passwords and assigning votes to them.  If there is a
    list posted of who voted, and someone who did not vote sees their
    name in the list, they can point out the problem.

    FidoNews 6-36                Page 17                   4 Sep 1989


    A quick example.  In an election for NC, the two candidates are
    Joe and Sue.  The vote runs like this:

    Node           Sysop          Vote           Password
    115/123   Elmer Fudd          Joe            ABC
    115/456   Donald Duck         Sue            DEF
    115/789   Joe Smith           Joe            GHI
    115/987   Sue Jones           Sue            JKL
    115/654   Deputy Dawg         Joe            MNO
    115/321   Tweety Bird    does not vote       N/A

    The person conducting the election would post the following:

    The following nodes voted:  123, 456, 789, 987, 654
         ABC       Joe
         DEF       Sue
         GHI       Joe
         JKL       Sue
         MNO       Joe       Results:  Joe, 3
                                       Sue, 2

    In a real election, the passwords would be more imaginative, and
    the results would not be posted in node-number order.  You can
    see how this method allows each voter to verify that their vote
    was correctly tallied.  If Tweety Bird sees her node number
    listed in the list of voting nodes, she can point out the
    problem.

    What Has Been Learned
    ---- --- ---- -------

    I have recently been associated with two elections in FidoNet,
    and several aspects have been interesting.  Both of these
    elections were conducted by Rick Moore (115/333), who was
    impeccably qualified using the criteria mentioned above.

    The first election was to pick a Regional Coordinator for region
    11.  Candidates (sysop or NC) were nominated by Network
    Coordinators.  No "screening" was done of nominations beyond
    requiring that each candidate be nominated by an NC.  The slate
    of eight candidates was then presented to the NC's for a vote.
    (There are 21 NC's in region 11.)  It was decided before the
    election was held to not post the individual vote totals; only
    the winner was announced.  This step was taken because it was
    felt that candidates might be unwilling to risk being embarrassed
    by a poor showing.

    With 20/20 hindsight, it would have been better to post the
    individual vote counts, or to use a method like the one outlined
    above.  Since the winner is from the Chicago area, and the ZC is
    from the Chicago area, and the conductor of the vote is also from
    the Chicago area, it was obvious to the casual observer that
    massive vote fraud had occurred.  Actually, I say this only as an
    illustration of how the public posting of the votes is a
    protection to the person conducting the election as well as to
    the candidates.
    FidoNews 6-36                Page 18                   4 Sep 1989


    As I write this article, we are in the final phase of an election
    to pick a new Network Coordinator for net 115 in Chicago.  Again,
    Rick Moore is conducting the election.  Based upon experience
    from the first election, changes were made in the rules for the
    NC election.  First, the individual vote totals will be posted.
    Second, the winner will be chosen by MAJORITY (as opposed to
    plurality).  Since no one candidate received a majority of the
    votes cast in the election, a runoff is being held between the
    top two candidates.

    The learning experience continues with an election for RC in
    region 12, again to be conducted by Rick Moore.  This election
    will differ from the previous one in several important respects.
    The nomination process is the same, but votes will be posted
    using a password method as described above.  Instead of NC's
    voting for the RC, individual sysops will vote.  Again, the
    winner will be selected by majority, with a runoff if necessary.

    (Or runoffS.  We came within one vote of having a three-way
    runoff in the net-115 election, as the top three candidates
    received 9, 9, and 8 votes each.  If three candidates had been in
    the runoff, it is probable that no one would have received a
    majority in that election either, requiring yet another runoff
    between the top two candidates.  This is an example of the type
    of unexpected event which can always show up to illustrate that
    the rules which were so carefully prepared do not cover all
    contingencies.)

    What Next?
    ---- ----

    We are still learning.  More experience is needed with the voter-
    password method, which has not yet been used in a region-level
    election.  Another aspect is sysops voting for an RC; the turnout
    in the election will be an indicator of whether RC's should be
    elected by vote of sysops or by vote of NC's.

    As more elections are held in FidoNet, and as we share the
    experience, it will not be necessary for each election to "re-
    invent the wheel".  Our hobby is, after all, communication.  We
    must communicate what we learn, or we'll each have the honor of
    climbing the same learning curve.

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    FidoNews 6-36                Page 19                   4 Sep 1989


    An Apology of Sorts

    by Phil Buonomo, 1:107/583, 7:520/583, 9:807/1

    Over the past few months, I have become aware of a previously un-
    known character flaw I possess.  It seems that I have a bad ten-
    dency to group people together.  I want to make it clear here
    and now that I do NOT feel that the majority of members of the
    *C structure are bad.  Some may have shown poor judgement lately
    in the implementation of Policy 4, but I do not believe that
    there has been any malicious intent behind that implementation.
    Additionally, some people have been embarrassed and hurt by some
    of the articles I have written.  I hereby render my apologies to
    Jim Dunmyer and JJ Marquez.  Jim is a good example of what a *C
    should strive to be, and if there were more like him, perhaps
    FidoNet would not be in the mess that it is.  As for JJ, while I
    do not agree with his interpretations concerning conferences, I
    feel that he was caught in a situation that was not of his mak-
    ing, and therefore also did not deserve the chastizement I gave
    him in a recent article.  Fellows, no-one's perfect, and I'm not
    even close.  I'm sorry, and hope that you'll realize that my
    intentions were not malevolent in nature, either.

    As for Steven Bonine, I do believe that he's trying to improve
    things, and that he bears no malevolence towards the nodes of
    FidoNet, nor a desire for power over others.  Considering my own
    flaws, and the extraordinary measures I was forced to undertake
    to bring a chance at democracy back to FidoNet, I don't feel
    comfortable faulting the man any more.  I urge Steve to take a
    little more time in making decisions of policy, as they have
    such serious ramifications for the network.

    At FidoCon, several RC's have expressed an intent to bring demo-
    cratic representation to FidoNet, and claimed to be moving in
    that direction already.  Since TJ's mention of trust, I have
    decided to take them at face value unil proven otherwise.  I
    also hereby resolve not to let a few bad apples spoil the bunch,
    provided the rest of the bunch is willing to help weed out the
    bad apples.  I urge others to do so as well.

    I'm sorry if I offended anyone else.  I'm not a diplomat, and I
    sometimes step on toes trying to accomplish a goal.  I believe
    in getting the job DONE, no matter what the cost.  I am proud of
    of that reputation, but it does tend to cause grief for myself
    and others.  For that, I apologize.

    Phil Buonomo

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    Fido            12n+*  Phoenix         1.3    TBBS           2.1
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                           XlaxNode       2.32    MSG            3.3
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                                                  TMail         1.11
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                                                  UFGATE        1.03
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    Mansion             7.0                       ArcMac         1.3
    WWIV (Mac)          3.0                       StuffIt       1.51
                                                  TImport      1.331
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                                                  Tset           1.3
                                                  Timestart      1.1
                                                  Tally          1.1
                                                  Mehitabel      1.2
                                                  Archie        1.60
                                                  Numberizer    1.5c
                                                  MessageEdit    1.0
                                                  Mantissa       1.0
                                                  PreStamp       2.0
                                                  R.PreStamp     2.0
                                                  Saphire       2.1t
                                                  Epistle II     1.0
                                                  Import        1.2b
                                                  Export        1.2b
                                                  Sundial       1.2b
                                                  AreaFix        1.1

                              Commodore Amiga
                              ---------------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Paragon            1.00+* BinkleyTerm  1.50   ConfMail      1.10*
                                                  ChameleonEdit 0.10
                                                  RMB           1.30


                                   Atari ST
                                   --------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailer      Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Star-Net           2.00   BinkleyTerm 1.03a   ConfMail      1.00
    EchoDoor           0.11                       ParseList     1.30
    GS Point           0.61                       ARC           5.21
                                                  TurboArc       1.1
                                                  LHARC         0.40
                                                  PKUNZIP       1.00
                                                  MSGED        1.96S
                                                  SRENUM         6.2
                                                  OMMM          1.30
                                                  Timestop      1.00


    + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
    * Recently changed

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    Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
    reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
    all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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                                 NOTICES
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                         The Interrupt Stack


     5 Oct 1989
       20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

    11 Oct 1989
       First International Modula-2 Conference at Bled, Yugoslavia
       hosting Niklaus Wirth and the British Standards Institution.
       Contact 1:106/8422 for more information.

    11 Nov 1989
       A new area code forms in northern Illinois at 12:01 am.
       Chicago proper will remain area code 312; suburban areas
       formerly served with that code will become area code 708.

    23 Nov 1989
       26th Anniversary of "Dr. Who" - and still going strong

    30 Dec 1989
       Telephone area codes (5, 3 and 0) are abolished in Hong Kong

    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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           OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION

    Mort Sternheim 1:321/109  Chairman of the Board
    Bob Rudolph    1:261/628  President
    Matt Whelan    3:3/1      Vice President
    Bill Bolton    3:711/403  Vice President-Technical Coordinator
    Linda Grennan  1:147/1    Secretary
    Kris Veitch    1:147/30   Treasurer


           IFNA COMMITTEE AND BOARD CHAIRS

    Administration and Finance     Mark Grennan    1:147/1
    Board of Directors             Mort Sternheim  1:321/109
    Bylaws                         Don Daniels     1:107/210
    Ethics                         Vic Hill        1:147/4
    Executive Committee            Bob Rudolph     1:261/628
    International Affairs          Rob Gonsalves   2:500/1
    Membership Services            David Drexler   1:147/47
    Nominations & Elections        David Melnick   1:107/233
    Public Affairs                 David Drexler   1:147/47
    Publications                   Rick Siegel     1:107/27
    Security & Individual Rights   Jim Cannell     1:143/21
    Technical Standards            Rick Moore      1:115/333


                     IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

        DIVISION                               AT-LARGE

    10  Courtney Harris   1:102/732    Don Daniels     1:107/210
    11  Bill Allbritten   1:11/301     Mort Sternheim  1:321/109
    12  Bill Bolton       3:711/403    Mark Grennan    1:147/1
    13  Irene Henderson   1:107/9       (vacant)
    14  Ken Kaplan        1:100/22     Ted Polczyinski 1:154/5
    15  Scott Miller      1:128/12     Matt Whelan     3:3/1
    16  Ivan Schaffel     1:141/390    Robert Rudolph  1:261/628
    17  Neal Curtin       1:343/1      Steve Jordan    1:206/2871
    18  Andrew Adler      1:135/47     Kris Veitch     1:147/30
    19  David Drexler     1:147/47      (vacant)
     2  Henk Wevers       2:500/1      David Melnik    1:107/233

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    Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
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