Volume 6, Number 31                                  31 July 1989
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    Editor in Chief:                                  Vince Perriello
    Editors Emeritii:                                     Dale Lovell
                                                       Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

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    We  don't necessarily agree with the contents  of  every  article
    published  here.  Most of these materials are  unsolicited.    No
    article will be rejected which is properly attributed and legally
    acceptable.    We   will  publish  every  responsible  submission
    received.


                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
       I Quit, effective sometime soon  ..........................  1
    2. ARTICLES  .................................................  2
       More Tales of Horror from the FidoNet *C's  ...............  4
       Net 134 and Policy 4  .....................................  8
    3. LATEST VERSIONS  .......................................... 13
       Latest Software Versions  ................................. 13
    4. NOTICES  .................................................. 15
       The Interrupt Stack  ...................................... 15
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                                EDITORIAL
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    Hi there.

    Still reading this thing? Thanks. I appreciate it.

    Is there  anyone  who'd like to be the Editor?  It's burning up a
    lot of my  time.  More than I can afford at this point.  And it's
    getting to be harder  and  harder to psyche myself into doing the
    work anyway.

    If  you're  interested,  send  me    netmail.    Try  to  include
    qualifications,  etc.   I'll forward them  along  to  the  people
    who'll have to decide on my successor.

    I won't leave the position until a replacement is ready.  But I'd
    like  to  start the ball rolling.  (Ooooops,  I  just  remembered
    something.    I  never  told  PubComm.  Rick, Irene  --  I  quit,
    effective as soon as you have a replacement)

    On another note:  I have received a couple of  nice articles that
    were published  in  "real"  publications  already.    I'd love to
    publish them, but I can't unless I have permission from the owner
    of the articles.   Please  don't send me any of that stuff unless
    permission has been granted, or  you can arrange for me to easily
    get it.

    Hey, thanks again.

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                                ARTICLES
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    Les Kooyman, 1:204/501
    FidoCon Committee Co-Chairperson

            JOHN DVORAK TO BE KEYNOTE SPEAKER AT FIDOCON '89

    The  dates  for  FidoCon '89 are fast  approaching  (August  24th
    through the 27th)! If you haven't yet made your hotel or  confer-
    ence reservations, you should do so as soon as possible to  avoid
    increased  charges.  Although  the official  deadline  for  hotel
    registration has passed, I have it on good authority that follow-
    ing  the  registration procedure for hotel  registrations  (which
    includes  calling  the  hotel directly rather  than  calling  the
    national reservation number) will likely still get you the  hotel
    discount.

    Now, here's the rest of the conference news:

    Friday  night, August 25th, will be the Banquet and  Keynote  Ad-
    dress. This year's Keynote Speaker is Mr. John Dvorak,  columnist
    for PC magazine and well-known observer of the computer industry.
    Tickets to the banquet will be available separately from  Confer-
    ence  Registration to allow people to attend only the Banquet  if
    they wish.

    Registration  night is Thursday, August 24. Friday  and  Saturday
    offer two full days of seminars and workshops, including:
      o   Tim Pozar chairing a panel describing UFGATE, an  interface
    between the FidoNet network and the Usenet network.
      o    Vince  Perriello and Bob Hartman  discussing  BinkleyTerm,
    their freely-available mailer program .
      o     Bob Hartman on FidoNet mail processing by the  BIX  (BYTE
    magazine) online service.
      o     Phil  Becker,  the author of TBBS BBS  software,  on  the
    unique structure and organization of that system.
      o     Tom Jennings, the author of Fido (the  original  network-
    capable  BBS)  on  Fido, routing of mail, and  other  matters  of
    interest.
      o     Chuck Forsberg, noted author of ZMODEM, YMODEM, and other
    file-transfer protocols, on the subject of error-free file trans-
    fer protocols.
      o     Mort Sternheim chairing a panel on the future of  FidoNet
    and the International FidoNet Association (IFNA).
      o     Chris Irwin discussing D'Bridge and Joaquim  Homrighausen
    discussing Front Door, two other fine mailer front-end programs.
      o     Rick Heming talking about Wildcat BBS software,  and  the
    interface from Wildcat to FidoNet.
      o     A representative from US Robotics, a maker of modems,  on
    high speed modem technology.
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      o     A  panel discussion chaired by Randy Bush  and  Christian
    Stalberg on International FidoNetting (FidoNet spans many nations
    and continents).
      o     A panel discussion concerning Democracy in FidoNet,  sure
    to be a "hot" topic.

    Dates and times of these sessions will be announced shortly in  a
    future edition of FidoNews. Stay tuned.

    Conference  registrations are $60 prior to August  1st  (extended
    from  July 15th), $75 thereafter. Banquet tickets are  $30  each.
    Both may be ordered from:

                       Silicon Valley FidoCon '89
                              PO Box 390770
                         Mountain View, CA 94039

    You may also netmail your conference and/or banquet  reservations
    to  1:1/89, although you need to follow up an  email  reservation
    with  hardcopy through the US Mail within three  days,  including
    payment  in full. Remember we are accepting VISA  and  MASTERCARD
    this year.

    Rooms at the Holiday Inn may be reserved by calling the Hotel  at
    408-998-0400,  and mentioning that you are with  FidoCon.   Rooms
    are $60.00 per night double occupancy.   Additional rollaways are
    available   for  $10.00 per night.     The official  FidoCon  '89
    airline  is American Airlines.   You  can receive  either  a   5%
    reduction in supersaver fares  or  a  40% reduction in the  regu-
    lar day coach fare.  San Jose is an American Airlines  hub   with
    direct  flights  to most  major  cities.   When  making  reserva-
    tions, you must call American's reservation number, 800-433-1790,
    and  reference  Star  number S0289VM. The  official  FidoCon  '89
    automobile  rental  agency  is Alamo Rent a Car.   Rates  are  as
    described below. All rates  include  automatic transmission,  air
    conditioning,  radio, and unlimited mileage.  Economy car  (exam-
    ple:  Geo Metro)  $32 day/$109 week. Compact car (example:  Chevy
    Cavalier) $34 day/$120 week. Midsize car (example: Pontiac  Grand
    Am)  $36 day/$135 week. Standard car (example: Buick  Regal)  $38
    day/$165  week. Luxury car (example: Buick LeSabre) $40  day/$239
    week.   To take advantage of this rate, call Alamo at  1-800-732-
    3232  and request group ID number 13594 and rate code G8.

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    More Tales of Horror from the FidoNet *C's
    by Phil Buonomo 1:107/583, 7:520/583, 9:807/1
       (Whew!  Made it another week!  Guess the RC's don't read
        FidoNews, else I'd have been tossed out long ago!)

    I recently received a file, containing messages I thought the
    sysops of FidoNet should see.  Read on, Macduff!

    --- File Begins

    Mike Lester, As a result of your message to me on April 11, 1989
    stating that you have  put a "file on hold for me" to discourage
    my calling your system,  you have been deemed to be in violation
    of FidoNet Policy3.Doc,  to wit: Excessively Annoying Behavior.
    Distributing, or  threatening to distribute a 'Mail Bomb', is a
    very serious  offense.

    As a result, you are being ex-communicated from FidoNet. Your
    name, your BBS name, and your node numbers are being removed from
    the Nodelist.

    You have the right to appeal my decision. If you decide to do so,
    your first course of appeal would be to our Region Coordinator,
    Justin Marquez, at 1:106/100. If you find no relief there, you
    may contact our Zone  Coordinator, David Dodell, at 1:114/15.

    Bruce Bodger
    Net Coordinator, Net 170
    ======================== end of msg from NC ====================

     > As a result of your message to me on April 11, 1989
     > stating that you have put
     > a "file on hold for me" to discourage my calling your
     > system, you have been
     > deemed to be in violation of FidoNet Policy3.Doc, to
     > wit: Excessively
     > Annoying Behavior. Distributing, or threatening to
     > distribute a 'Mail Bomb',
     > is a very serious offense.

    I never said it was a "MAIL BOMB" you are overreacting. I simply
    said, if you wanted to "FORCE FEED" me an echo I did NOT want,
    that I was going to put my rather LARGE file list on hold for you
    to pick up. fair is fair. Since you decided to change your
    position on the "FORCE FEEDING" of an echo I did not want, I did
    not put any files on hold for you.

     > You have the right to appeal my decision. If you decide
     > to do so, your first
     > course of appeal would be to our Region Coordinator,
     > Justin Marquez, at
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     > 1:106/100. If you find no relief there, you may contact
     > our Zone Coordinator,
     > David Dodell, at 1:114/15.

    believe me, I am contesting this action...

    Mike

    ==================== end of my responce =======================

    cc:     Bruce Bodger
            Justin Marquez

    Mike, I'm sorry to inform you that I have reviewed materials sent
    to me by your NC, Bruce and the RC, Justin concerning your
    excommunication.  I have  not  seen that they have done anything
    outside of their jurisdiction under  POLICY3  and therefore, have
    no reason to overturn their decision.

    David

    ==================== end of the ZC's responce ==================

    This is the end of the line, no more appeal.... now after
    thinking about it a bit, I decided to make a rebuttle: I know it
    would do no good, but i sent it to a few key people.

     quote from national sysop:
     > RG: Tell me, just how many nodes do you know of that have been
     > RG: excommunicated on the basis of a single offense?  Indeed,
     > RG: how many nodes do you know of that have been excommuni-
     > RG: cated, period?
     end quote

       I was the NC for Tulsa, Ok fidonet 170 for more than 2 years,
       I got out the nodelist/diffs on Fridays, and the fidonews
       EVERY week on time.  (read this with "tongue in cheek") Here
       is the procedure to get a longtime fidonet NC out in 12 steps:

    1) First get the NC(me) to route ALL messages for the local net
    through your node as NEC.

    2) Then, using a message editor that dont leave footprints (FD
    editor), make changes to the messages the NC posts locally, and
    make sure some if not most are a degrading nature in responce to
    simple questions.

    3) Quietly, forward "copys" to the RC, explaining that you (the
    NEC)  think the NC is "over the edge" and politlely ask what he
    can do about it. A voice phone call helps here, if your GOOD at
    manipulating people. A few of your friends making complaints also
    helps, no matter how bogus they may be. also, if a node wont file
    an "official" complaint make one up in his name and send it in. (
    eg. Joe Savard. )

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    4) The RC removes the NC for "cause" and appoints the NEC the NEW
    NC.

    5) Now your in "CONTROL". Next, start having "secret" monthly
    meetings where not even wifes are allowed in the room where
    fidonet business is conducted. ( You should have heard some of
    the wives outside when this happened.)

    6) When the old NC(me) finds out about what happened and the
    reason why,  he just shrugs it off and says ok, "you leave me
    alone, and I will leave you alone", Now just wait about 2 weeks
    and be silent.

    7) Un-rest rules the net, because of the changes that have
    happened.  "Un-rest" is an understatement, it almost instantly
    polarized the net. Now its time for some "heavy handed rules".
    ie: You MUST attend the local fidonet meetings. (only heresay)
    You MUST get all your echos from the NC/NEC. You can only have 40
    echos MAX. If you post in the local sysop echo, it must be a
    message that pertains to ALL. Messages of a one to one nature are
    NOT allowed. ect... The penaltys are "you WILL be removed from
    the nodelist" A threat of having NET 170 removed by the RC also
    comes in, if the nodes do not "Cooperate".

    8) Now, dump on the old NC (me) an echo NOT wanted/requested
    without  warning or even asking to have the area set up. (100+
    messages)  ( I had to manually delete them from my netmail area.
    ) ( as in k23<cr> k24<cr> ect... I run an OPUS BBS )

    9) Now comes the part that got ME ex-communicated. When I
    complain saying to discontinue sending the echo, simply send a
    message to the sysop (me) stateing "I'M THE NC, and IF YOU WISH
    TO REMAIN IN FIDONET, YOU WILL RECIEVE THIS ECHO.

    10) When the ex-NC(me) says "ok, fine, you SEND to ME an echo
    that I dont wish to have, I will place a file on HOLD for you to
    pick up every time you call. (note: the FILE was my files
    listing, the one you would get if you requested FILES from my
    system. Not a mail bomb, or virused program. also, I intended on
    recieving the echomail to a passthrough area to no one,
    effectivly deleting the messages.)

    11) The new NC then quietly removes the ex-NC(me) from the
    nodelist for  that week because he is "annoyed". no warning, no
    nothing was ever sent to me about this.

    12) When I complain again, pass it along to the RC, who then
    passes it along to David Dodell, who ultimatly, finds that "No
    one has done anything outside of policy."

    It happened to me, and when final, 15 sysops, left fidonet 170
    Now its time for a NEW RULE for the local net. Rule: You can't be
    in fidonet 170 if you allow Mike Lester ex-NC of Fidonet 170 on
    your system as a user. (Just ask the sysop of 7:771/208.0 if this
    is true or not.) The bottom line is this, I was ex-communicated
    from fidonet simply for saying I was going to "put a FILE on
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    hold". The FILE was NEVER sent, since the new NC removed me from
    the nodelist. He never called back either, after I sent him the
    message I was going to put the file on hold  for him. So, I never
    actually DID anything wrong, but i was  ex-communicated for it
    anyway.  I even ASKED the RC for a REGION number, and it was
    refused, by saying that there was already an existing net in
    Tulsa, and I HAD to be in it or not at all.

       Mike Lester
       Galaxy Computer HST
       Multiline Opus 1.10
       7:771/0 (alternet) 1-918-835-8933 (9600 hst)
       7:771/1 (alternet)
       7:771/2 (alternet) 1-918-836-6336 (1200 hayes)
       11:771/0 (OPCN) 1-918-835-8933 (9600 hst)
       11:771/1 (OPCN)
       11:771/2 (OPCN) 1-918-835-8933 (1200 hayes)

    ---- end of file

    So this guy, Mike Lester, gets excommunicated from FidoNet.  His
    network gets so upset they 'vote out' the NC appointed by RC19,
    who then declares the vote 'illegal' and throws it out.  Most of
    the network then quits FidoNet.

    So we have another case where an RC 'kills' a network for the
    'good' of FidoNet.

    Are you starting to see the danger of living under Policy4 now?

    This story would be bad enough, but now we learn that after these
    guys join AlterNet, the FidoNet NC and RC start trying to take
    over the echomail conferences the 'excommunicated' nodes are
    contributing to!  Funny thing is, I thought that FidoNet echomail
    policy stated that conferences belonged to the MODERATORS!

    Well, as a moderator of a number of conferences, I give a warning
    to any *C that might feel bound to keep ANYONE following MY rules
    in ANY of MY conferences from posting:

    KEEP YOUR DAMN HANDS OFF MY CONFERENCES, OR YOU'LL FIND YOURSELF
    THE SUBJECT OF A POLICY COMPLAINT SO FAST IT'LL MAKE YOUR HEAD
    SWIM!

    Clear enough?  Good.

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                          Net 134 and Policy 4

     I was asked to submit the following for the beginning of July
    but was unable to do so at that time.  With my apologies here it
    is now.
      The first section is a resolution we voted on.  The second is a
    sober look at P4 and its implementation which it was suggested I
    submit with the resolution.  For the record, there was not one
    person in net 134 who expressed any reservations about including
    the second part.

     Charles Ford (134/19)

                        Net 134 Resolution Re. P4

    A.  Net 134 likes FidoNet and wishes to remain in it.
    B.  The majority of Net 134 does not accept Policy4 on the basis
        of its implementation.
    C.  Net 134 is willing to work on a committee to formulate a
        democratic policy.


             STATEMENT OF POSITION REGARDING POLICY 4

       "It's done.  It's finished.  Now let's fix it."  is the
    rallying cry I hear from above these days.  I wish I could accept
    things that easily.  "What is the problem?  P4 is a lot better
    than Policy 3, isn't it?" some say.

       The truth of the matter is that Policy 4 simply does not exist
    in Fidonet. This is not a statement of position or opinion, it is
    really the way it is.

       Right off I will say that there are major problems with Policy
    4 both in its content and the way it was declared to be in force.
    This is no longer a choice between P3 and P4.  It goes deeper
    than that.  Fidonet has grown extraordinarily since 1984.  The
    original policy documents were probably fine for a small group
    that largely knew each other.  If memory serves me correctly,
    there were about 1700 nodes when I first started to get involved
    with Fidonet.  At the time I joined, it was after agreeing to
    abide by P3.  P3 had its problems but its terms were those I
    accepted coming into Fidonet.  That is true for the vast majority
    of the rest of Fidonet sysops as well.

       An agreement is an agreement.  You don't complain about it
    after the fact. Now along comes P4.  What's the problem?  It
    unilaterally breaks the agreement between the front-line sysop
    and the Fidonet administration.  None of us agreed to that coming
    in.  The agreement has been broken and those who broke it want to
    force on a new one.  If an agreement has been broken by one party
    the other party is no longer bound by it.  Hence the authority
    fomerly entrusted to the other party no longer holds.  I didn't
    break the agreement.  The vast majority of Fidonet sysops did not
    break the agreement.  The *Cs broke it.  That is statement of
    fact.  THE ISSUE IS NO LONGER P3 vs P4.  IT IS RATHER THAT THERE
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    IS NO LONGER A BINDING POLICY ON NODE SYSOPS AT ALL.

       "But there was no mechanism for policy change," is the
    argument foisted on us.  True, but then the honorable and proper
    thing to do is to work out a mutually agreeable solution to the
    problem or at least some sort of consensus. This was not done.
    P4 was pushed through with the trench-sysop having no say.

       What was the rush?  Why is it that ammendents to give the
    nodes a say were verboten before P4 was pushed through but now
    are to be given serious consideration for some future policy
    document?  I do not personally know any *C above my own NC -- as
    is the case for most of us.  We are not really in a position to
    judge their character or motivations but we can judge their
    behavior.  When the salesman says, "Trust me.  This is a great
    product,"  and it turns out to be made of junk, I don't buy from
    him again.  The policy that the *Cs have proclaimed is just like
    that.  How can there be trust after such a betrayal?

      "Charles, you're such an extremist," some of you might be
    thinking.  Am I really?  Let's get down to specifics.

     1. The voting procedure.
         - The IC did the collecting counting and announcing of the
           vote results. To date he has not allowed independent
           verification. Fidonet policy affects his life and future
           plans directly.  Now he might be the most upright and
           honest man in the world but IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT WE
           SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO BELIEVE THAT THE VOTE WAS COLLECTED,
           THE BALLOTS COUNTED, AND THE RESULTS ANNOUNCED ALL BY THE
           SAME PERSON, A PERSON WITH A BIG STAKE IN THE OUTCOME, AND
           THIS WAS DONE WITH NO FIDDLING WHATSOEVER WHEN THERE IS NO
           WAY TO CONFIRM OR DISPROVE HIS ANNOUNCEMENT.  If votes are
           to have any credibility at all, the ballots must be
           collected and counted by someone without an immediate
           stake in the process and there must be more than one
           person involved to ensure that the process is honest. Were
           we given true and honest results for the vote on P4, such
           as it was?  Does anyone but the IC know for sure? How?  I
           don't see how any of us can know.

     2. P4 itself - The reason it had to be passed in such a hurry
                    was that it brought a new measure of democracy
                    and accountability to Fidonet.  But does it?
                    Let's have a closer look.

         a) IC selection and accountability.
             - Only the Zone Coordinators (four people right now) can
               select or replace the IC.  The IC can only come from
               their ranks.  Only the IC can extend or interpret
               policy on specific issues.  The ZCs can overrule him
    FidoNews 6-31                Page 10                  31 Jul 1989


               on a specific interpretation or extension, however.
               The IC collects and counts the ballots in any case.

                                    1.2.7
                                    6.1
                                    7.2

               This is largely just formalizes how things are.  The
               IC could not function without the support of the ZCs.
               The position is still basically a life position
               without review and those at the very top still appoint
               him.  In one respect it strengthens the IC position in
               that criticism of the IC now must go through the ZCs.
               Before that it must go through the RCs.  The fact that
               the complete voting process is controlled in all
               aspects by the IC and only the IC means that there can
               be no confidence in the announced results.

         b) ZC and RC selection and accountability.
             - This is a circular, cosy relationship where the 49
               people involved are accountable only to each other
               while controlling the communication activities of over
               6000 others, based on the current node list.

                                    1.2.4
                                    1.2.5
                                    1.2.8
                                    8.7.1


         c) NC selection and accountability
             - Selection and removal is completely at the disgression
               of the RC
             - Accountability is only to the RC
             - NC activities affect the nodes almost exclusively

                                    4.1
                                    5.7

         d) Nodes
             - Entry is basically for the asking.  After that all
               activities are subject to the *Cs dictates.

         e) Policy changes
             - These can only be instituted by a majority of the RCs
               asking for a vote by the NCs on a new policy drafted
               exclusively by the RCs. The voting block represents
               about 5% of those in Fidonet since the NCs do not have
               to vote in accordance with the wishes of their net.
               In light of the fact that an NC can be removed at the
               discretion of his RC there is a strong pressure to
    FidoNews 6-31                Page 11                  31 Jul 1989


               vote in accordance with the policy.  Reduced to simple
               terms, that means that 24 people develop a policy that
               about 5% of the people affected get to vote on and of
               that 5% any number could be subject to coercion.

               The problems with having a representative result
               announced are further compounded because the voting
               process is designed in such a way that the integrity
               of the process cannot be relied on.  Indeed it is so
               deficient that it is obvious it has been given no
               serious consideration at all.  To put it more bluntly,
               the figures and results could be made up out of the
               ICs head and nobody could question them.

                                    8.1
                                    8.3
                                    8.4


    Summary:
            1) The current Fidonet node sysops made an agreement to
               abide by Policy 3 when they joined Fidonet.  This
               agreement has been repudiated by the *C structure with
               NO NODE LEVEL SAY IN THE PROCESS.

                 a) Since the agreement has been broken by the one
                    party, the other is no longer bound by it.

                 b) If one agreement is broken, what guarantee is
                    there that any others will be honored?

            2) P4, if it were valid, REMOVES the right of the nodes
               to a say in a process that primarily affects them.
               This IS a loss of rights based on the agreement
               outlined above.

            3) P4 actually consolidates power over what may soon be
               the world's largest personal computer communication
               network into the hands of a very few under a pretense
               of some democratic process and accountability. The
               reality is that there is nothing to ensure the
               integrity of either the voting process or the
               accountability.  This consolidation has no basis under
               it other than that 49 people have said that this is
               how the thousands in Fidonet shall function.

    Final Comments

       P4 has no moral and, most likely, no legal force.  Acceptance
       by the nodes means that they are giving up the rights they
       once had to some effective say in the process.

    FidoNews 6-31                Page 12                  31 Jul 1989


       Policy 4 is not only zero improvement, it involves grave
       losses in rights to the owners of Fidonet -- the sysops.
       Policy 4 takes ownership of the network from you.  And you
       just might let it happen.

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     2 Aug 1989
       Start of Galactic Hacker Party in Amsterdam, Holland. Contact
       Rop Gonggrijp at 2:280/1 for details.

    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.

    24 Aug 1989
       FidoCon '89 starts at the Holiday Inn in San Jose,
       California.  Trade show, seminars, etc. Contact 1:1/89
       for info.

     5 Oct 1989
       20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

    11 Oct 1989
       First International Modula-2 Conference at Bled, Yugoslavia
       hosting Niklaus Wirth and the British Standards Institution.
       Contact 1:106/8422 for more information.

    11 Nov 1989
       A new area code forms in northern Illinois at 12:01 am.
       Chicago proper will remain area code 312; suburban areas
       formerly served with that code will become area code 708.


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    FidoNews 6-31                Page 16                  31 Jul 1989


           OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION

    Mort Sternheim 1:321/109  Chairman of the Board
    Bob Rudolph    1:261/628  President
    Matt Whelan    3:3/1      Vice President
    Bill Bolton    3:711/403  Vice President-Technical Coordinator
    Linda Grennan  1:147/1    Secretary
    Kris Veitch    1:147/30   Treasurer


           IFNA COMMITTEE AND BOARD CHAIRS

    Administration and Finance     Mark Grennan    1:147/1
    Board of Directors             Mort Sternheim  1:321/109
    Bylaws                         Don Daniels     1:107/210
    Ethics                         Vic Hill        1:147/4
    Executive Committee            Bob Rudolph     1:261/628
    International Affairs          Rob Gonsalves   2:500/1
    Membership Services            David Drexler   1:147/47
    Nominations & Elections        David Melnick   1:107/233
    Public Affairs                 David Drexler   1:147/47
    Publications                   Rick Siegel     1:107/27
    Security & Individual Rights   Jim Cannell     1:143/21
    Technical Standards            Rick Moore      1:115/333


                     IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

        DIVISION                               AT-LARGE

    10  Courtney Harris   1:102/732    Don Daniels     1:107/210
    11  Bill Allbritten   1:11/301     Mort Sternheim  1:321/109
    12  Bill Bolton       3:711/403    Mark Grennan    1:147/1
    13  Irene Henderson   1:107/9       (vacant)
    14  Ken Kaplan        1:100/22     Ted Polczyinski 1:154/5
    15  Scott Miller      1:128/12     Matt Whelan     3:3/1
    16  Ivan Schaffel     1:141/390    Robert Rudolph  1:261/628
    17  Neal Curtin       1:343/1      Steve Jordan    1:206/2871
    18  Andrew Adler      1:135/47     Kris Veitch     1:147/30
    19  David Drexler     1:147/47      (vacant)
     2  Henk Wevers       2:500/1      David Melnik    1:107/233

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                                     * FidoNet *    (_|  /_)
    FidoCon '89 in San Jose, California              _`@/_ \    _
      at The Holiday Inn Park Plaza                 |     | \   \\
           August 24-27, 1989                       | (*) |  \   ))
                                       ______       |__U__| /  \//
                                      / Fido \       _//|| _\   /
                                     (________)     (_/(_|(____/ (tm)


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    Zone:Net/
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    BBS Software:  _____________________ Mailer: ___________________

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    FidoNews 6-31                Page 18                  31 Jul 1989


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    (not attending conferences)

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              ______________________________________________________


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    Costs                                   How Many?   Cost
    ---------------------------             --------    -------

    Conference fee $60 .................... ________    _______
       ($75.00 after July 15)

    Friday Banquet  $30.00 ................ ________    _______

                                            ========    =======

    Totals ................................ ________    _______

    You may pay by Check,  Money Order,  or Credit Card.  Please send
    no  cash.   All monies must be in U.S.  Funds.   Checks should be
    made out to: "FidoCon '89"


    This form should be completed and mailed to:

                        Silicon Valley FidoCon '89
                        PO Box 390770
                        Mountain View, CA 94039


    You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/89  for
    processing.   Rename  it  to  ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is  your  Zone
    number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number.  US Mail
    confirmation  is  required  within  72  hours  to  confirm   your
    registration.

    If  you are paying by credit card,  please include the  following
    information.   For  your own security,  do not route any  message
    with your credit card number on it.  Crash it directly to 1:1/89.


    FidoNews 6-31                Page 19                  31 Jul 1989


    Master Card _______     Visa ________


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    Expiration Date ________________________________________________

    Signature ______________________________________________________

    No  credit  card registrations will be accepted without  a  valid
    signature.


    Rooms  at the Holiday Inn may be reserved by calling the Hotel at
    408-998-0400,  and mentioning that you are with  FidoCon.   Rooms
    are $60.00 per night double occupancy.   Additional rollaways are
    available  for $10.00 per night.   To obtain these rates you must
    register before July 15.

    The official FidoCon '89 airline is American Airlines.   You  can
    receive  either  a  5%  reduction in supersaver fares  or  a  40%
    reduction in the regular day coach fare.  San Jose is an American
    Airlines  hub  with direct flights to most  major  cities.   When
    making reservations, you must call American's reservation number,
    800-433-1790, and reference Star number S0289VM.

    The official FidoCon '89 automobile rental agency is Alamo Rent a
    Car.  Rates are as described below. All rates  include  automatic
    transmission, air conditioning, radio, and unlimited mileage.

    Economy car (example: Geo Metro)  $32 day/$109 week.
    Compact car (example: Chevy Cavalier) $34 day/$120 week.
    Midsize car (example: Pontiac Grand Am) $36 day/$135 week.
    Standard car (example: Buick Regal) $38 day/$165 week.
    Luxury car (example: Buick LeSabre) $40 day/$239 week.

    To take advantage of this rate, call Alamo at 1-800-327-9633  and
    request  the convention rate. Mention FidoCon '89,  the  location
    and dates.


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                The World's First   /  \
                   BBS Network     /|oo \
                   * FidoNet *    (_|  /_)
                                   _`@/_ \    _
                                  |     | \   \\
                                  | (*) |  \   ))
                     ______       |__U__| /  \//
                    / Fido \       _//|| _\   /
                   (________)     (_/(_|(____/ (tm)

           Membership for the International FidoNet Association

    Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
    pays  a  specified  annual   membership  fee.   IFNA  serves  the
    international  FidoNet-compatible  electronic  mail  community to
    increase worldwide communications.

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    Thank you for your membership!  Your participation will help to
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    Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
    and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
    membership in January 1987.  The second elected Board of Directors
    was filled in August 1988.  The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
    established on FidoNet to assist the Board.  We welcome your
    input to this Conference.

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