Volume 6, Number 2 9 January 1989

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Editor in Chief Dale Lovell
Editor Emeritus: Thom Henderson
Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
Contributing Editors: Al Arango

FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
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hour to NMH+1 hour. At all other times, netmail is not accepted
although submissions can be uploaded.

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are used with permission.

The contents of the articles contained here are not our
responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them.
Everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING
received.

Table of Contents

1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
It has to cost SOME-one something! ....................... 1
Hints on Writing Style for Usenet (or FidoNet) ........... 3
SDNet/Works! ............................................. 6
2. COLUMNS .................................................. 9
RegComm - Communications From RegCon ..................... 9
Rogel's Corner: Tree86 2.0 .............................. 10
Let's YACK about Letters to the Editor ................... 15
3. NOTICES .................................................. 16
The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 16
Latest Software Versions ................................. 16
And more!
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ARTICLES
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It has to cost SOME-one something!

Echomail does have a cost attached to it somewhere.

I feel that the day of the free ride is just about over.
People have become so accustomed to free delivery of echomail
that many now take advantage of it. If it is free, let's get
more!

This network is a hobby for almost everyone in it. It services
both the rich and the poor. There are some folks out there with
money to burn that have no concept of how to keep things
organized. There are some folks out there that are brilliant
managers that barely can make ends meet. FidoNet should not
suffer organizationally because the "poorer" sysops have no
recourse to recoup some costs.

Please rest assured that I am speaking for echomail only. This
has nothing to do with netmail. There needs to be in place a
system that is endorsed by anyone in a management position, a way
for some costs to be re-imbursed. I propose that REC's, NEC's
and/or any EchoMail hub be allowed to require that system feeds
pay their share.

It would still be the cheapest, most efficient way for echomail
to be passed along. Let's take a look at a simple back-bone
structure top down.

A Star Hub's echomail portion of his bill is $400.00. He feeds
10 REC's. In simplistic terms, each REC owes $40.00 to the Star
Hub. An REC's bill is $250.00. Add the $40.00 of his share to
that, making the total $290.00. Now, the REC feeds 15 NEC's. Each
NEC share would be $19.33. One step further now. The local NEC
pays about $175.00 in echo calls. (The PC Pursuit folk would
figure flat rate of $25.00). Now, add the $19.33 to the 175.00,
we get $194.33. The NEC feeds 20 nodes. Each nodes share breaks
down to $9.72.

Remember: the above takes into account each system doing the
polling to the feed above him.

$9.72 is cheap any way you look at it to get echomail.
Everyone's bill gets covered. It also assures that systems stay
around. Experience teaches us that those that offer the "free
lunch" in echomail tend to not be around for a long time.
Co-operation and assistance makes things work.

I welcome comments on this. I do not want to clog up any echo
conference it, though. If you'd like to send comments, my address
is 100/617. Even other sides of the issue. All netmail answered.

Glen Jackson
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REC Region 14
1/214
100/617 Home of the New RIXS BBS

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Hints on Writing Style for Usenet (or FidoNet)

Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers
Subject: Hints on writing style for Usenet (or FidoNet)
(Updated: 10 October 1988)

Original-from: [email protected] (A. Jeff Offutt VI) [Most recent
change: 10 October 1988 by [email protected] (Larry Geary)]

I would like to take a moment to share some of my knowledge of
writing style. If you read the suggestions below, remember: it's
easy to agree that they make sense but it's much harder to apply
them.

References: Cunningham and Pearsall, "How to Write For the World
of Work" Strunk & White, "Elements of Style"

The above references are both excellent books. Cunningham is a
standard in tech writing classes and won an award for the best
tech writing book from the Association for Teaching of Technical
Writing. I was lucky enough to take a class from him as an
undergraduate. Strunk is a standard in college composition
classes. Other ideas here come from my own experience on the net
and hints from other people.

This is a "long article." The rest of it is simply a list of
pointers.

Writing style:

* Write *below* the readers' reading level. The avg. person in
the US reads at a 5th grade level (11 years of age). The avg.
professional reads at about the 12th grade level (18 years of
age).

* Keep paragraphs short and sweet. Keep sentences shorter and
sweeter. This means "concise," not cryptic.

* White space is not wasted space -- it greatly improves
clarity. A blank line only adds a byte to the article length, so
don't be stingy if it will help make your meaning clearer.

* Pick your words to have only *one* meaning. Vagueness is
considered artistic by literary critics. We are not being
literary here.

* People can only grasp about seven things at once. This means
ideas in a paragraph, major sections, etc..

* Avoid abbreviations and acronyms, if possible, and define the
ones you use.

* There are several variations on any one sentence. A passive,
questioning or negative sentence takes longer to read.

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Net style:

* Subtlety is not communicated well in written form - especially
over a computer.

* The above applies to humor as well. (rec.humor, of course, not
included.)

* When being especially "flame-boyant", I find it helpful to go
to the bathroom before actually sending. Then, I often change
the tone considerably. :-) Take a break before posting something
in anger or that might hurt or anger others.

* Subject lines should be used very carefully. How much time
have you wasted reading articles with a misleading subject line?
The "Subject:" header line can be edited in all the various
posting programs (as can the "Distribution:", "Newsgroups:" and
"Followup-To:" header lines).

* References need to be made. When you answer mail, you have the
original message fresh in your mind. When I receive your answer,
I don't.

* It's *much* easier to read a mixture of upper and lower case
letters.

* Leaving out articles (such as "the," "a," "an," etc.) for
"brevity" mangles the meaning of your sentences and takes longer
to read. It saves you time at the expense of your reader.

* Be careful of contextual meanings of words. For instance, I
used "articles" just now. In the context of netnews, it has a
different meaning than I intended.

* Make an effort to spell words correctly. Obvious misspellings
are jarring and distract the reader. Every news posting program
allows you to edit your article before posting, and most systems
have some kind of spelling checker program that you can use on
your article.

* Remember - this is an international network.

* Remember - your future employers may be reading your articles.

'Nuff said.

These suggestions are all easily supported by arguments and
research. There's a lot more to say, but....
--
Gene Spafford
NSF/Purdue/U of Florida Software Engineering Research Center,
Dept. of Computer Sciences,
Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN
Internet: [email protected]
uucp:...!{decwrl,gatech,ucbvax}!purdue!spaf

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Ray Kaliss
The SDN Project
SYSOP/CONN! 141/840

I would like to tell all the reader of Fido news, about
somthing new that is happening. It is called the Shareware
Distribution Network. It's real name is SDNet/Works! and we
call it... SDN.

Probably the best way is for you to read my New Years
mesessage to the sysops already participating in SDN. Although
it won't give you the whole story, perhaps it is enough to
invite sysops and shareware authors reading Fido news, to find
out more.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(New Years Message from The SDN Project SYSOP/CONN!)

I'd like to take this time (oh, grief ...it sounds so
professional <grin>) to thank you all again for joining us in
SDN. You, the first sysops in, are very important to the future
of the SDN concept.

We should see ourselves as involved in something new, exciting
and sure to work in time. I tried to get something going like
this two years ago, but it fell apart. Timing was not right and
we were guessing at how to do it. A few months ago, I passed
the concept by Charlie, he was doing such a great job organizing
the 800 Club and had his little busy nose into every other net
activity. Charlie turned out to be the best person to present
it to. Now that we have the start and semblance of a net
function, here is my "State Of The Union", address. So you
guys, the first in, know what's going on.

We are set out to accomplish two things.
> Remove the threats of virus, trojans and and hacked programs.
> Bring a little organization to the distribution of Shareware
programs.
We see this really, as a benefit to all. Sysops, users and
shareware authors.

Shareware has matured in quality and quantity. It is really,
a low cost alternative to high priced commercial software. In
many cases I actually think it fits the needs of the average
user better than $600 software designed to accommodate the
complexities of large corporations. This may sound like a
"goodie two-shoes" stance, but the high corporate pricing of
application software and the desire of the average user to do
things with his computer, is the cause of what some call
"pirating". Shareware brings applications into the reach of the
amateur, hobbyist... home computer nut.

We as sysops, all know that getting good shareware programs
for our users and ourselves is a bit like throwing a small net,
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into a large lake, and sifting through the catch. The method of
distribution that we call "user osmosis" (users downloading from
one BBS and uploading to another) will always be apart of
BBSing... but in comparison to the needs of the present state
of growth of amateur computer communications, it is lacking.

I don't think any one of us could venture a guess on how many
good shareware programs are out there, how many shareware
authors. With new ones popping in and old ones fading away all
the time. My guess (now that I'm talking directly to authors)
is there are 200 - 400 authors spread around out there. I've
been told in a message to SDN by the Association of Shareware
Authors, that the ASP is 100+ members and growing by about 10 a
months. That is at least 100+ programs by professional
programers, our users and ourselves, should have to pick from.

The answer to doing this, is a benefit to us and to the
shareware authors. It is having meeting points, focal points so
that users and other sysops know where these distribution points
are... and get authors to use them. An increase in the number
of people who have access to the varieties of up-to-date
shareware programs, can only do users and authors good. The
place for this type of "clearing house", is on-line. It calls
for a managed distribution effort by sysops. Once all the
shareware programs we can get - come down through SDN, the SDN
File area will be like browsing through a book store where all
the books are safe, up to date and complete. An on-line
shareware outlet.

This means not only getting sysops interested in SDN, but
authors too. Some authors have their stomping grounds in the
big on-line services. Some of them may not realize that amateur
BBSing and communications has grown to over 4000 BBS' with some
kind of net affiliations and probably a few thousand more
independents.

The other side of SDN is it is time to have some assurance
that the programs we recieve to our systems, users or sysops,
are not trojans, not virus, not two versions old, not repackaged
by some careless user who left out doc's and glitched the .com
program. For hobbist and amateur computing to continue its
growth and maturity, we need at least one safe conduit for
programs. SDN proposes just that in its direct connection to
authors and sysops.

In this regard we are changing the way distribution is done.
Not for everything, but for one valuable conduit. We are going
against the tide, and that takes time.

Some of you may know, The Association of Shareware
Professionals read an ABOUTSDN.DOC that was placed on
Comp-U-Serve, and got in touch with us weeks ago. We have
caused quite a bit of excitement. It seems so much so with what
they see as the potential of SDN, that myself, Charlie and
Richard Zorovich have been extended a first. We have been
invited into the on-line private conference area of the ASP on
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Comp-U-Serve to discuss SDN and the concept with them.

It has been projected to me by some, that because of it's
cross-Net nature, SDN might become an eventual unifying bridge
to all the independent Nets, a kind of common ground from
which.... (Well... maybe?)

Really, the SDN activity, is just another activity on your
boards. It should not require much time or maintenance. It
does require a few strict guidelines for it to accomplish its
purpose, but these are few and simple.

The SDN files you receive, will be small in quantity at first
but will begin to build up. You probably will want to keep them
all in that area rather than to shuffle them about. The purpose
of the SDN file area is to say to all "this area is clean,
complete and up-to-date".

You should all have a "pro-register" attitude toward shareware
to your users. All this means is that your attitude should be
one of "encouraging" registration when dealing with users over
shareware. We do not ask you to beat people or embarrass people
or to make them go through any on-line "shareware training test"
or anything like that. As members of the hobby community, an
encouraging attitude is all that is proper for us.

Official SDN policy comes from only one place - SYSOP/CONN!
BBS, the home of the SDN Project and the holder of all legal
rights. Until "recommendation committees" are eventually set up
to deal with growth, policy is short and simple but designed to
protect myself and you from legal liabilities or problems. Any
other policy only has to do with the bare mechanics that make
SDN function for its two goals.

and with that...

Happy New Year to everyone!

*ray
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Sysops interested in becoming Distribution Ponits should
contact 141/880 to find out who your SDN Regional Coordinator
is.

Shareware authors wishing to use SDN for distribution should
contact 141/840

SDNet/Works! is not an affiliation, but a cooperation.

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COLUMNS
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RegComm - Communications From RegCon.

It seems the quickest way to assure something is not going to be
on schedule is to announce that schedule! You may have noticed
the new nodelist information following that theory. If all goes
well we will hear more prior to February 1 (this year) and if
that schedule is maintained we'll work at having full implementa-
tion by March 1 (also this year).

We have received a rumor that one of the *C team was having a
real problem spending any time at his computer due to an injury.
Word has it that members of the net he is active in got together
and purchased a portable computer and modem for him to allow him
to be more active. Until otherwise confirmed we'll continue to
treat this as a rumor. The *C structure, according to some, is
to be avoided and ignored as much as possible as they have to be
up to something detrimental to us all, so we know this couldn't
have really happened. But it is nice to think there is some good
news out there. If you know of more good news, of people helping
people, please share it with your RC so everyone knows. Not only
can we enjoy the good news but it might give others ideas.

There was some minor confusion over the announcement in last
weeks column on `private' mail. There was never anything said in
that column about setting the `private' bit in a message, and
that wasn't even considered in any of the messages we had read in
any of the echo conferences. Surely there must be a way to
declare a message `private' without having to set a bit. Perhaps
setting a bit gives our software something to react to and the
`private' bit can help our software determine how to handle a
message. No one wants to change that. But we also know that
computers aren't always guilty of broadcasting a message sent
with the intentions of it being kept confidential. At least we
haven't noticed a computer capable of such actions without human
intervention. If we are going to try to come up with a technical
answer to a human problem we might consider a `confidential' bit
to go with the `private' bit. And you are correct, that is
ludicrous! Why won't a simple request within a message to keep
its contents confidential be effective? The answer to that
question is also simple.

("RegComm" will be a weekly column in FidoNews and your comments
are welcome. Please address your concerns and comments via
NetMail to your Net or Regional Coordinator, you should receive
an answer within a few days. It's your net and we are in need of
your input in order for us to fairly represent you.)

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ROGEL'S CORNER: TREE86 2.0 --
MAKING A GREAT PRODUCT EVEN BETTER
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Copyright @ 1988, by Todd S. Rogel. [Permission is granted
to copy this article for noncommercial purposes only. Any
other reproduction or use is strictly prohibited without the
express written permission of the author, Todd S. Rogel]

There is something very satisfying about watching a new
computer product compete with the "big boys" and emerge a
winner. For computer users, this means that development in
the computer industry will not stagnate and that the users
will be the beneficiaries of such change and innovation. On a
grander scale of things, it reconfirms that David can beat
Goliath and that real life stories can have happy endings.

Forgive my philosophical excursion in this computer column.
I have just reviewed The Aldridge Company's latest release,
Tree86 2.0, though, and am awed by their achievement: they
and their program are winners!

I previously reviewed the earlier versions of Tree86 and
found both versions to be great [2/88 and 3/88 issues of PC/2
Newsletter; posted on the TIBMUG section of Micro Message
Service (919) 779-6674]. Version2.0 is even better!

Before discussing the new features, let me give you some
background, so you will better understand my perspective.

Last October I was leafing through PC Magazine when I came
across an advertisement for Tree86 1.0. The ad implied that
Tree86 offered newer and more powerful features than its
chief competitor, Xtree 2.0.

Well, I was a fan of Xtree 2.0 and suspected that the Tree86
ad was wholly exaggerated as well as presumptuous. After
all, I had previously evaluated several competitors of
Xtree86 -- some of which cost far more than Xtree -- and
felt that, for various reasons, none came close to stacking
up to Xtree. Why should Tree86 be any different?

Tree86 was being offered at an introductory price under $30
and The Aldridge Company assured me that I could return their
product within 30-days if dissatisfied for any reason. I
decided to give Tree86 a test-drive, confirm my doubts about
this Pretender, and send its beaten and battered shell (no
pun intended) back to its maker.

Boy, was I wrong!

The previous Tree86 versions offered all that was available
on Xtree and then several additional practical features,
including: TreeDOS, Tree86's DOS-like environment, with DOS
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command recall; a file finder, which will locate duplicate
files or do wild-card file searches in a flash; easy and
quick switching between applications and Tree86; hot key disk
navigation; and Xcopy, which permits copying of a file as
well as its subdirectory structure. Well, the new version is
even better.

I have become a believer in The Aldridge Company and Tree86.
When you see some of the new features offered in version 2.0,
I think you will become a believer as well. Here is a
sampling of the new goodies.

1. INSTANT LOGGING: This "no wait" feature is
sensational! Shell-type programs ordinarily must
read your drive every time you access the shell
(i.e., going from an application to the shell).
This is an unacceptably time consuming process.

I never operated my computer through Xtree because
it reads the disk whenever it is accessed. Instead
I only used Xtree for occasional serious hard disk
housecleaning.

The prior Tree86 versions were faster than Xtree
since they read the disk only when first executed
and also whenever I switched drives. To avoid disk
reads when I switched drives with Tree86, I instead
accessed other drives through TreeDOS (Tree86's
DOS-like environment). Obviously this relogging
problem somewhat limited Tree86's utility.

Tree86 version 2.0 now has an instant logging
option. You may easily select from 1 to 26 drives
for this instant access option. Whenever you exit
Tree86 a drive data file is updated. You are
immediately presented with a current tree display
the next time you run Tree86. I can now switch
drives through Tree86 without any wait whatsoever.

2. FILE VIEW: Version 1.0 offered a lame viewing
utility. Version 1.1 thoughtfully allowed me to
substitute my own viewing utility. Version 2.0's
viewing program is wonderful. I have scrapped my
public-domain program in favor of this beauty. As
you can see below, Tree86's viewing utility is a
full-featured program which permits line/page
scrolling, text search, and mark/print text
options:

TREE86 = VIEW A FILE KEY REFERENCE
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[Illustration omitted because of conflict with FidoNews'
formatting requirements; For those who are interested, the
original Rogel's Corner, with the illustration included, may
be reviewed on or downloaded from MMS [151/102]
919-779-6674. Look at the August, 1988 Issue of TIBMUG's
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Newsletter, PC/2, which is located in the TIBMUG area of the
Special Interest Groups section of MMS]
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3. HELP: Tree86 now offers context-sensitive help.

4. COPY AND MOVE: [A] Files may be copied or moved by
the point-and-shoot method. No more typing in full
paths. [B] Automatic overwriting of files is now
available as an option.

5. EXPANDED MEMORY SUPPORT: Tree86 version 2.0
automatically uses expanded memory (LIM v.3+), if
present. For some reason, Tree86 shows that my
system contains "Extended:-31,457,280"; alas, my
8088 system contains neither expanded nor extended
memory and I am puzzled as to why this obviously
incorrect information is shown by Tree86.

6. MULTIPLE DRIVES: You can read as many as 26 drives
simultaneously.

7. ADJUSTABLE MEMORY USAGE: Tree86 version 2.0 offers
3 "memory models" for buffers to hold information
about logged drives:

(a) Small: 4,096 bytes reserved. Capacity: 82
subdirectories (on largest drive);
26 simultaneous drives.

(b) Medium: 8,192 bytes reserved. Capacity:
166 subdirectories (on largest
drive). 15 simultaneous drives.

(c) Large: 12,288 bytes reserved. Capacity:
254 subdirectories (on largest
drive); 10 simultaneous drives.

8. SORT: A "reverse" order option is now available
for sorting files by name, extension, size, date
and time, time, path, or attribute.

9. ALTER ATTRIBUTES: There are now three methods for
changing file attributes (i.e., [h]idden,
[r]ead/only, [s]ystem, and [a]rchive) by using a
simple device called an "attribute mask":

10. EDITOR: An easier method has been added for
integrating your favorite word processing program
with Tree86. Then you can load both your editor
and the file you wish to edit, by pointing to the
subject file and pressing [E]ditor.

11. QUIT: Now you can quit Tree86 from TreeDOS as well
as from Tree86. This is a nice little feature
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since when you quit from TreeDOS, you end up at
the subdirectory shown at the TreeDOS prompt.

12. FILE TAGGING: Even this has been made easier, so
that when you tag a file by pressing the space bar,
the cursor automatically moves down to the next
file.

Tree86 offers something for everyone. For computer
neophytes, Tree86 virtually eliminates the DOS barrier. For
those who know and love DOS (or, at least, know DOS), you
have a multi-purpose, extremely practical, and easy to use
power tool at your complete command -- and you get all of
this without your typical tradeoffs of speed, access to DOS,
costs, etc..

Sure, there is room for improvement (isn't there always?).
It would be nice to be able to load TSR's from Tree86; it
would be even nicer to be able to manage TSR's from Tree86,
so that you could swap memory-resident programs back and
forth when necessary. Fortunately The Aldridge Company
always seems to stay several steps ahead of the market. They
have an excellent product and are continually trying to
improve upon it. Indeed, they already are working on TSRs
for an upcoming edition.

Tree86 is an unqualified winner. With its useful assortment
of features, its integration with my word processing program,
its "no wait" accessibility, and its powerful view program,
Tree86 has become my computer's first-team quarterback.

Rogel's Wrap-Up
+===========================================================+
| Product: Tree86 v. 2.0 by The Aldridge Company |
| Price: Lists for $89.95 |
| Product description: |
| Graphic Disk Navigation and Management Program |
| System Requirements: |
| IBM version reviewed; MacIntosh version available |
| Comments: |
| Excellent easy-to-use program; integrates with |
| your favorite word processor; superb view/text |
| retrieval utility; instant no-disk-read access; |
| capacity to read 26 drives simultaneously; |
| adjustable memory. Offers DOS-power without |
| DOS-headaches |
| For more information, contact: |
| The Aldridge Company, 2500 CityWest Boulevard, |
| Suite 575, Houston, Texas 77042 713-953-1940 |
+===========================================================+

Sincerely,

Todd S. Rogel
Raleigh, North Carolina
July 28, 1988
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YACK
Yet Another Complicated Komment

by Steven K. Hoskin
( STEVE HOSKIN at 1:128/31 )

Episode 21: Letter to the Editor

This is the sort of subject that Dale, our honorable Editor,
should probably be addressing, but, what the heck, I have a
column to fill.

There seem to be at least a few people who objected to some of
the content of one of the articles that was published in one of
the issues of FidoNews (generic enough for you?). Now how, you
ask, do I know this? Well, I read the IFNA EchoMail conference.

Now, at first glance, that doesn't seem to be an appropriate
answer; after some thought, it does, and then after some more, it
doesn't again. Let me explain.

FidoNews -- you got a problem with it? Write the editor!
Posting in IFNA doesn't immediately appear to be the appropriate
channel.

IFNA -- it runs, perhaps even "owns" -- FidoNews. Says right on
the cover that

FidoNews is published weekly by the International
FidoNet Association as its official newsletter.

Therefore, reading about problems with FidoNews in the IFNA
EchoMail conference seems, after some thought, to be an okay
thing.

Dale Lovell -- the Editor of FidoNews doesn't read the IFNA Echo.
Seems fair to say that posting your complaints about FidoNews
there isn't wise -- the only way Dale is going to hear your bitch
is if somebody else relays it to him. Now what is any normal
person going to think of someone who can't come out and talk
directly about their problems? Once again, posting complaints in
IFNA seems to be fruitless.

If you want something done about it, that is.

So if you've got a problem with something that comes out in
FidoNews; distasteful language, non-FidoNet subject material,
whatever - write a "Letter to the Editor". Maybe it'll get
published. And maybe you'll actually change something.

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NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack

24 Aug 1989
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.

5 Oct 1989
20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

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FidoNews 6-02 Page 17 9 Jan 1989

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COMMITTEE REPORTS
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Bylaws and Rules Committee
1:107/210

Reminder: IFNA Bylaws Ballot due back by Jan. 16!

This is just a reminder for those of you who have not yet
returned your ballots to do so now! They must be in the hands of
the CPA by the 16th of January.

And, when you fill out your ballot, remember: there are some
complicated or subtle nuances in quite a few of the amendments
and some of them are contradictory. This is by no means a
"rubber stamp" situation, so check each item carefully to decide
whether it's support or defeat is best for IFNA and FidoNet.

If you have questions, direct then to the committee. We'll do
our best to present and explain both sides of any issue.

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FidoNews 6-02 Page 18 9 Jan 1989

OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION

Hal DuPrie 1:101/106 Chairman of the Board
Bob Rudolph 1:261/628 President
Matt Whelan 3:3/1 Vice President
Ray Gwinn 1:109/639 Vice President - Technical Coordinator
David Garrett 1:103/501 Secretary
Steve Bonine 1:115/777 Treasurer

IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

DIVISION AT-LARGE

10 Courtney Harris 1:102/732? Don Daniels 1:107/210
11 Bill Allbritten 1:11/301 Hal DuPrie 1:101/106
12 Bill Bolton 3:711/403 Mark Grennan 1:147/1
13 Rick Siegel 1:107/27 Steve Bonine 1:115/777
14 Ken Kaplan 1:100/22 Ted Polczyinski 1:154/5
15 Larry Kayser 1:104/739? Matt Whelan 3:3/1
16 Ivan Schaffel 1:141/390 Robert Rudolph 1:261/628
17 Rob Barker 1:138/34 Steve Jordan 1:102/2871
18 Christopher Baker 1:135/14 Bob Swift 1:140/24
19 David Drexler 1:19/1 Larry Wall 1:15/18
2 Henk Wevers 2:500/1 David Melnik 1:107/233

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