Volume 5, Number 43                               24 October 1988
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    Editor in Chief                                       Dale Lovell
    Editor Emeritus:                                   Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings
    Contributing Editors:                                   Al Arango

    FidoNews  is  published  weekly  by  the  International   FidoNet
    Association  as  its  official newsletter.  You are encouraged to
    submit articles for publication in FidoNews.  Article  submission
    standards  are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC,  available from
    node 1:1/1.

    Copyright 1988 by  the  International  FidoNet  Association.  All
    rights  reserved.  Duplication  and/or distribution permitted for
    noncommercial purposes only.  For  use  in  other  circumstances,
    please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
    at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.

    Fido  and FidoNet  are registered  trademarks of  Tom Jennings of
    Fido Software,  164 Shipley Avenue,  San Francisco, CA  94107 and
    are used with permission.

    The  contents  of  the  articles  contained  here  are  not   our
    responsibility,   nor   do   we   necessarily  agree  with  them.
    Everything here is  subject  to  debate.  We  publish  EVERYTHING
    received.



                            Table of Contents

    1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
       Elvis Lives  ..............................................  1
       HAYES Technical Support Echo Announcement  ................  2
       New Message Editor  .......................................  4
    2. COLUMNS  ..................................................  5
       Let's YACK about The Negative Side  .......................  5
    3. NOTICES  ..................................................  6
       The Interrupt Stack  ......................................  6
       Latest Software Versions  .................................  6
    FidoNews 5-43                Page 1                   24 Oct 1988


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                                ARTICLES
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    Noel Crow
    FidoNet 170/200
                                ELVIS
                 A Generic Echomail Statistics Utility

    ELVIS was designed to maintain a history of Echomail traffic for
    your system.  It reports counts of incoming messages, in each
    echo area, and from each network node sending to you.  Since
    Elvis derives its data directly from incoming packets, and
    requires no system-specific control files other than its own,
    it's compatible with just about any MS-DOS system that receives
    FidoNet-compatible echomail.  It is useful for identifying dead
    echos, broken links, and dupe sources, especially for echomail
    hubs handling a large number of echo areas or nodes.

    Elvis consists of two executable files; ELVIS.EXE, which scans
    incoming mail and stores message counts in monthly data files.
    ELVISRPT.EXE is used to generate ASCII reports from the data
    files written by ELVIS.EXE.  Any date range (that you have data
    for) may be specified.  Command line switches may be used to
    report only the message counts in certain echo areas or from
    certain nodes.

    File Request ELVIS100.ARC from FidoNet 170/200.  Size is 39K,
    about 3 minutes at 2400 baud.

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    FidoNews 5-43                Page 2                   24 Oct 1988


    Mike Ratledge
    SysOp of East Bay X-Change TCommNet BBS
    372/555, 372/666, 372/777 and 372/888


        I am pleased to announce that I have received permission to
    create a HAYES technical support conference for owners of Hayes
    Microcomputer Products modems.

        I will host this new EchoMail area (tag is "HAYES") and the
    folks at Hayes technical support department will check in daily
    to answer any new questions.

        The following is the unedited text of a letter I received
    electronically from John Aitken, the head of Hayes SysOp support
    in Atlanta:



                        Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc
                                705 Westech Drive
                                Norcross,GA.30092


    TO:        Mike Ratledge, Sysop - East Bay X-Change BBS
    FROM:      John Aitken, Hayes - Sysop Support Coordinator
    SUBJECT:   Hayes Technical Support Forum
    Date:      16 September, 1988



    Mike, We at Hayes are actively committed to supporting our
    Customers, and are always seeking new ways to provide that
    support.  Towards that end I accept your invitation to
    participate in your Hayes Support Message Area within the Fido
    - Networking System.

    Once your Message Area is up and running we will actively
    participate by signing-on daily, answering questions and
    providing technical support to all callers within the network.

    Additionally, I have provided you with full access to the Hayes
    Sysop Support Conference, where you will have access to all
    technical files, bulletins, and configuration notes - contained
    within our Technical Library.

    Please feel free to utilize any of the technical information
    that you may find within our file directories and be sure to let
    me know how we can provide additional help or information.

    FidoNet callers are invited to submit their questions,
    suggestions, and comments - within the message area, and we will
    monitor and reply on a daily basis.

    If there is anything that we can do for you or your FidoNet
    callers - please don't hesitate to ask.
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    Best regards and good wishes for your Network!

            John Aitken
            Hayes Sysop Support Coordinator
            Training and Customer Services



    If you would like to recieve this echomail area on your system,
    please get in touch with me at 372/888 and we'll setup your link
    according to the volume of requests I receive.  I imagine that
    this echo area will warrant being carried on the "backbone" in a
    short time!  NOTE: 372/555 is a Hayes V96 unit - it's online at
    5:30PM each weekday (until 8AM) and all weekend, too.  If you
    wish to sign on locally, you should call 372/666 or 372/888 and
    register.  Be sure to ask for access to the V96 unit.  I will
    have a second V9600 online by the time this article is printed.
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    FidoNews 5-43                Page 4                   24 Oct 1988


    jim nutt
    'the computer handyman'
    1:114/15.11

    Announcing version 1.87 of msged, the only Fidonet mail editor
    with complete c source code.  Features include:

         Message body text searching
         Integrated full screen editor
         Uses existing config files (binkley.cfg and areas.bbs)
         Easy to Use
         Easy to Install
         Full Zone:Net/Node.Point>Domain addressing
         Intelligent Point remapping
         Support for Netmail, Echomail and Local Areas
         Uses All 80 columns of the screen
         Quoting (of course!)
         Message Forwarding
         Carbon Copies
         Address Lookup
         Text file import/export
         Abort/Delete Confirm (optional)
         Support for large displays
         Optional Tear and Origin lines
         Direct Screen Video (video fossil and bios support soon)
         Source compatible with Quick C, Zortech C and Turbo C
         Creates a confmail echomail export log
         Large message handling (big version only)
         All versions will run in under 128k of memory
         Fast! (100 messages in under 20s 8mhz AT and Desqview)
         Free! No charge for non-commercial use

    Coming features include:

         Message selection list
         Editor block commands
         UUCP addressing
         You Tell Me what you want!

    Msged is available from 1:114/18 or 1:114/15 for file request
    as MSGED and a msged support echo is being formed.  For more
    information contact me (jim nutt) at 1:114/15.11.

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                                 COLUMNS
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                                   YACK
                     Yet Another Complicated Komment

                           by Steven K. Hoskin
                       ( STEVE HOSKIN at 1:128/31 )

                      Episode 13:  The Negative Side


    "IF THIS REALLY WAS A GOOD HOBBY NETWORK YOU'D TALK ABOUT D&D".

    This was a message to me  from  a  user  about my board.  I don't
    happen to have any  message  areas  that  cover  D&D.  Funny that
    should be the  case,  since  my  advertised  specialty  areas are
    EagleTech Software and the national AVIATION EchoMail conference.

    I politely responded,  explaining  that  "Amateur  Hobby Network"
    means that  *I*  have  a  hobby  in  playing  with  computers and
    networking them together.  It  does not necessarily follow that I
    support all hobbies.  Even though  I happen to like D&D and other
    adventure, role-playing and war games.

    Then I get this guy who  calls  in  with  a name whose validity I
    question.  So I left him a  message  AND a custom welcome, asking
    him to verify the name,  with  address  and  phone number.  Seven
    times he logged in, saw the custom  welcome, and hit all the file
    areas and logged off.  I dropped  him  to DISGRACE status, left a
    more clearly worded custom welcome; still he called in about four
    more times, tried to hit the file  areas (the only one allowed at
    DISGRACE level  is  the  FidoNews  Area),  and  logged off.  So I
    TWITted him.  Why didn't he just leave me a message?  I even told
    him how to do it on the custom welcome.

    And the classic  -  "Hacker  calling".    Oh,  that's  TWIT level
    immediately.

    Why is it so hard for people to  say who they really are on BBSs?
    I don't recall ever  having  that  difficulty when *I* was a mere
    user.  And if  ever  there  was  a  strange  person, I definitely
    qualify.  But *I*  never  had  any  problems  using my real name.
    Handles are kind of nice, when  they  apply, but this doesn't cut
    well in EchoMail.  Too many people out there.

    Oh, well,  even  FidoNet  can't  be  all  blessings  and charm, I
    suppose.  I've been blessed,  even  in my troubles with users, in
    that I haven't had any vicious  hackers  trying to crash my board
    or slam my communication links.    I've heard of such, but (knock
    on wood) haven't seen any.

    I guess I'll just overlook the negative side and enjoy my hobby.

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                                 NOTICES
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                         The Interrupt Stack


    23 Nov 1988
       25th Anniversary of "Dr. Who" - and still going strong

    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.

     5 Oct 1989
       20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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                         Latest Software Versions

    BBS Systems            Node List              Other
    & Mailers   Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities  Version

    Dutchie       2.90b*   EditNL         4.00    ARC           5.22*
    Fido            12h    MakeNL         2.12    ARCmail        1.1
    Opus          1.03b    Prune          1.40    ConfMail      4.00*
    SEAdog         4.10    XlatList       2.86    EchoMail      1.31
    TBBS           2.0M    XlaxNode       2.22*   MGM            1.1
    BinkleyTerm    2.00*   XlaxDiff       2.10    TPB Editor    1.21*
    QuickBBS       2.03*   ParseList      1.20*
    TPBoard         4.2*
    TComm/TCommNet  3.1*
    TCOMMail        1.1*
    Lynx           1.10*
    D'Bridge       1.10
    FrontDoor       2.0

    * Recently changed

    Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
    reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
    all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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    FidoNews 5-43                Page 7                   24 Oct 1988


           OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION

    Hal DuPrie     1:101/106  Chairman of the Board
    Bob Rudolph    1:261/628  President
    Matt Whelan    3:3/1      Vice President
    Ray Gwinn      1:109/639  Vice President - Technical Coordinator
    David Garrett  1:103/501  Secretary
    Steve Bonine   1:115/777  Treasurer



                        IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

        DIVISION                               AT-LARGE

    10  Courtney Harris   1:102/732?    Don Daniels     1:107/210
    11  Bill Allbritten   1:11/301      Hal DuPrie      1:101/106
    12  Bill Bolton       3:54/61       Mark Grennan    1:147/1
    13  Rick Siegel       1:107/27      Steve Bonine    1:115/777
    14  Ken Kaplan        1:100/22      Ted Polczyinski 1:154/5
    15  Larry Kayser      1:104/739?    Matt Whelan     3:3/1
    16  Vince Perriello   1:141/491     Robert Rudolph  1:261/628
    17  Rob Barker        1:138/34      Steve Jordan    1:102/2871
    18  Christopher Baker 1:135/14      Bob Swift       1:140/24
    19  David Drexler     1:19/1        Larry Wall      1:15/18
     2  Henk Wevers       2:500/1       David Melnik    1:107/233

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                    / Fido \       _//|| _\   /
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           Membership for the International FidoNet Association

    Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
    pays  a  specified  annual   membership  fee.   IFNA  serves  the
    international  FidoNet-compatible  electronic  mail  community to
    increase worldwide communications.

    Member Name _______________________________  Date _______________
    Address _________________________________________________________
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    State ________________________________  Zip _____________________
    Country _________________________________________________________
    Home Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________
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    BBS Name ________________________________________________________
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    Board Restrictions ______________________________________________

    Your Special Interests __________________________________________
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    In what areas would you be willing to help in FidoNet? __________
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    Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in
    US Funds to:
                  International FidoNet Association
                  PO Box 41143
                  St Louis, Missouri 63141
                  USA

    Thank you for your membership!  Your participation will help to
    insure the future of FidoNet.

    Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
    and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
    membership in January 1987.  The second elected Board of Directors
    was filled in August 1988.  The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
    established on FidoNet to assist the Board.  We welcome your
    input to this Conference.

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    FidoNews 5-43                Page 9                   24 Oct 1988


                  INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
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                          Publications

    The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido
    1:1/10 or  other FidoNet compatible  systems, or by purchasing
    them directly from IFNA.  We ask that  all our  IFNA Committee
    Chairmen   provide  us   with  the  latest  versions  of  each
    publication, but we can make no written guarantees.

    Hardcopy prices as of October 1, 1986

    IFNA Fido BBS listing                       $15.00    _____
    IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs             $10.00    _____
    IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs       $10.00    _____

                                              SUBTOTAL    _____

                   IFNA Member ONLY Special Offers

    System Enhancement Associates SEAdog        $60.00    _____
    SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987
    ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member

    Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet               $100.00    _____
    Fido/FidoNet price as of November 1, 1987
    ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member

    International orders include $10.00 for
           surface shipping or $20.00 for air shipping    _____

                                              SUBTOTAL    _____

                MO. Residents add 5.725% Sales Tax         _____

                                              TOTAL       _____

       SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER IN US FUNDS:
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