Volume 5, Number 41                               10 October 1988
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    Editor Emeritus:                                   Thom Henderson
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                            Table of Contents

    1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
       AHA Conference Dates Announced  ...........................  1
       Hasson's Bowling League Secretary  ........................  2
       Dentist, Anyone?  .........................................  3
       An Echo Conference Rules Repository  ......................  4
       On Nuclear Power and Viruses  .............................  6
       SYSOP LIABILITY FOR DISCLOSING PRIVATE MESSAGES  ..........  9
    2. FOR SALE  ................................................. 11
       Make money distributing software  ......................... 11
    3. NOTICES  .................................................. 13
       The Interrupt Stack  ...................................... 13
       "Butt Don't Rebutt that Butt"  ............................ 13
       Latest Software Versions  ................................. 14
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    FLASH !!!  - - AHA Conference is Kentucky Bound in 1989!

    For the first time in it's history, the American Homebrewers
    Association's national homebrew convention will be held outside
    of Colorado.  The 11th Annual Conference on Quality Beer and
    Brewing will take place June 7-10, 1989, at Oldenburg
    Microbrewery, Beerhall and Drawbridge Inn in Fort Mitchell, Ky.
    (the Cincinnati, Ohio, metropolitan area and site of FidoCon
    '88).

    Highlights of the conference will be homebrew, beers from
    regional breweries, the National Homebrew Competition, exhibits,
    a homebrew club night, presentations and seminars, beer
    personalities and the world's largest brewerania collection.

    For more information write:

                     American Homebrewers Association
                               P.O. Box 287
                         Boulder, Colorado  80306

    or call:
                             (303) 447-0816.


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    FidoNews 5-41                Page 2                   10 Oct 1988


    The Hillbilly BBS
    1:264/555
    Sysop - Keith Hasson


    Fellow Bowlers,

            I have been bowling for 3 years now  and have
    seen many bowling league secretary programs used, some
    commercial & some Public Domain. I have been  working
    on one of my own because I feel that I can  develop a
    program much better than those available. I have  put
    onto my bbs the first version of my program.  I  have
    named it Hasson's Bowling League Secretary.

            I wanted to let people try-out what I've done
    so far and give me some feedback on what  they  think
    of it. If the responce is favorable, I  will  proceed
    in its development. The program name is BOWLEXE.EXE
    and is available for Filereq or you can sign onto my
    bbs under First & Last Name: BOWLER  Password: PIN


                                        Thank You

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    FidoNews 5-41                Page 3                   10 Oct 1988


                           DENTIST, ANYONE?

       I've just set up a node at my dentist's office in Wheaton,
    Maryland, and I'd like to start a DENTAL echo conference.  If
    any of you have an interest in this echo, dentistry, or are
    dentists yourselves, please drop me a note in netmail.  Our system
    will also be participating in AIDS/ARC, GRAND_ROUNDS (if we
    get permission from the coordinator), RECOVERY, MENSA,
    MENSANS_ONLY, and INTERTEL.

    George Falcon, Sysop,
    "Doctor Dave's Distinguished Dentistry Den"
    Opus 1:109/763
    PCPursuit DCWAS
    (301) 933-9519

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    FidoNews 5-41                Page 4                   10 Oct 1988


    Mike Fuchs
    1:1/201

                 EchoList - The EchoMail Conference List
                      And the New Rules Repository

    First, I wanted to spread the fact that the EchoList Moderator
    Update Instructions (ELISTMOD.ARC) have been rewritten.  My
    intent was to make them clearer and easier to understand.
    Unfortunately, I "simplified" it into twice as many pages!  Sorry
    about that, but I do get long winded.  And I put more explanatory
    detail into them, which tends to make the entire process of
    sending me a simple message look much more complex than it is.
    I'm open to critique.

    Second, I wanted to point out the one major change documented in
    those instructions:  The addition of a repository for conference
    rules in text files.  I have to credit John Tarbox from 150/3 for
    giving me the idea.

    Basically, many conferences have developed a specific set of
    rules and procedures for their participants.  Generally these get
    published within the conference itself as a message from time to
    time.  What John suggested was that people might like to know the
    rules before linking-in, and it would be a good idea to have all
    those rules available in a central place so that Sysops didn't
    have to run down several moderators to assemble the information.

    The EchoList provides a pretty generous amount of space for
    describing a conference, but I think it's necessary to keep
    things under control so that there's not too much detail given
    there (as opposed to my moderator instructions...).  I've had
    people submit lengthy, detailed policy and instructions for their
    conferences in that description field, only to have me edit it
    down to the basic "advertising" to balance it out with other
    entries.  The EchoList also has flags for certain general
    restrictions.  I'm always glad to add more, but I can't cover
    every term and condition with binary flags.  Enter: The Rules
    Repository.

    It's very simple, really.  A new moderator submission message
    format has been added that provides for submitting an attached
    file.  That file must be named xxxxxxxx.RUL, where xxxxxxxx is a
    unique abbreviation (if necessary) of the symbolic Area Name.
    The file should be a raw text file (not a word processor file,
    and not ARC'd).  What's in it?  Anything the moderator wants!
    Formatted any way he/she wants.  There are no restrictions on
    size or content.

    When my EchoList update processor finds such a message it will:
    1) note the file name in the EchoList database for reference, and
    2) ARC the .RUL file into the ELISTRUL.ARC file with all the
    other rule files.  Deleting the EchoList entry will automatically
    delete any rule file associated with that conference.  The
    ELISTRUL file will be distributed along with the ELISTnnn and
    ELISTMOD files, as well as being available for file-request or
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    first-time user download here at 1/201.

    The only thing I don't like about this procedure is that there is
    no way for people to selectively request the rules for a specific
    conference.  You get them all.  But, it was much simpler to
    implement this way (you don't need a key to the file names to get
    the rules for a conference with a long name).  And, you always
    have to get the entire EchoList when you request it, not selected
    entries.  So, it doesn't seem too unreasonable.

    As of this writing (10/1/88) the rules file has just been
    implemented, and there is no ELISTRUL.ARC file to request!  So
    don't waste your nickel on trying to pick it up just yet.  But I
    hope this will eventually be helpful.  If you are a conference
    moderator and would like to submit an entry or rules file to the
    EchoList, please get a copy of the new Conference Listing Update
    Instructions dated 10/1/88, and have at it!

    As a reminder, the following "magic" file names (use without a
    period or file extension) are always file-requestable at 1:1/201.

       ECHOLIST  The latest Echolist, plus cross-references.
       ECHORULE  The collection of Conference Rules Files.
       ECHOMOD   The latest Moderator Update Instructions.
       ECHOPOL   The latest draft EchoMail Policy document.  (This is
                 a document being assembled by FidoNet *C's and *EC's
                 for EchoMail in general, NOT just EchoLIST policies.
                 If you have ANY interest in where EchoMail is going,
                 please read it and contribute.)


                                 Enjoy,
                          And have fun with it!

     - Mike Fuchs
     - 1:1/201

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    FidoNews 5-41                Page 6                   10 Oct 1988


                      ON NUCLEAR POWER AND VIRUSES

         By Milo Tsukroff, former FidoNet Sysop.
         Contact through Willi-Board, 1:320/216.0.
         US Mail: 84 Ash St., Apt. 32, Willimantic, CT 06226-2943

    May God protect us from 'experts'. Whether they are 'experts' on
    nuclear power plants, or on computer viruses, they make our
    lives miserable by knowing _almost_ everything, but not enough.
    Then they try to run our lives accordingly.

    Fredrick L. Rice's article "To Disassemble The Machine", in
    FidoNews 5-36 (5 Sep 1988) was an interesting work of fiction. I
    highly recommend it, as it has many good, sound technical
    points. However, I wish to point out a few inaccuracies, and
    then write something along the same lines that'll knock your
    socks off -- about computer viruses.

    The problem with article is that it tells a great deal about
    the nuclear industry, but it is totally wrong in a few minor
    details. They're the critical ones. What the article
    hypothesizes about a nuclear plant accident resulting from an
    unexpectedly strong California earthquake could probably happen,
    but never to the degree that it predicts. Even worse for the
    position stated in the article, no possibility of nuclear
    explosion exists.

    One major point that the article does not discuss is that
    nuclear piping and valves are not the kind of pipes and valves
    that we are all used to. An electron-beam welding company that I
    worked for occasionally welds nuclear valves. The piping for a
    nuclear plant is rather interesting -- the pipes that these
    valves control have an inner diameter of about 3 inches. Their
    outer diameter is about 9 inches. That's right -- the walls are
    3 inches thick of pure stainless steel. I wonder if these pipes
    would even be affected by a ground-zero atomic blast, let alone
    a little 8.5-Richter earthquake.

    Even granting the possibility that these pipes _could_ break, as
    metals (especially a nuclear reactor's hydrogen-embrittled
    steels) do strange things under stress, the prospect of a
    nuclear explosion occurring in an atomic power plant is
    ludicrous.

    Let me state here that a worst-case scenario can indeed include
    hydrogen-oxygen gas explosions, core melt-down, and
    magnificently huge steam explosions. The article is technically
    correct on those points, and we avoided them by only a little
    bit at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant accident. The
    prospect of a radiation-laden steam cloud being forced out of
    nuclear plant is a very real but very low-probability threat,
    one which we should be prepared to deal with.

    But the possibility of a nuclear EXPLOSION occurring in a
    nuclear power plant does not exist. At all. First of all,
    uranium metal is never used in a commercial reactor. The Nuclear
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    Regulatory Commission (NRC) does not allow it. Instead, the
    uranium is dispersed in ceramic. The ceramic is made into small
    pellets, each of which is so low in radioactivity that you could
    hold one in your hand with only a small amount of shielding and
    not receive any dangerous levels of radiation (not that I would
    want to, mind you!).

    Ceramic can melt, given high enough temperatures. I'll even
    grant that, in the article's scenario, the ceramic (not pure
    uranium, though!) could melt together, fuse, and heat up
    drastically, thus producing a killer cloud of atomically charged
    steam. But the differences between uranium isotopes does not
    seem to be understood. Uranium-238, which is non-radioactive, is
    the primary isotope of uranium. The fissionable isotope,
    uranium-235, appears in very small percentage in uranium. It is
    present in such small quantities that the nuclear-fuel
    manufacturers must 'enrich' the uranium that they sell with a
    little bit of uranium-235 so that the pellets will sustain a
    nuclear chain reaction. The process of separating out U-235 from
    U-238 is so difficult that it does not occur in nature.

    If a nuclear reactor is to explode in a run-away nuclear fission
    chain reaction, as some of the less-informed but more zealous
    anti-nuclear groups claim is possible, the reactor would have to
    be a fast-fission, pure-uranium fueled reactor. (It is possible
    that the reactors on nuclear-powered ships come under this
    label. I don't know, though.) Given a commercial nuclear
    reactor, with a sizeable amount of fuel, and under the worst of
    circumstances, an atomic-bomb type of explosion cannot possibly
    occur. You can check with the more reputable anti-nuclear groups
    on this.

    One more thing has been left out: The production of fissionable
    plutonium by alpha-absorbtion of U-238 atoms. (Sorry, I don't
    have a physics book on hand to look up the exact atomic number.)
    According to an engineer at the Northeast Utilities Millstone
    nuclear power plant, at the end of a fuel pellet's life, most of
    the U-235 is spent. Nearly 40 percent of the pellet's heating
    power comes from plutonium fission.

    These plutonium atoms are, again, contained in the ceramic
    matrix of the pellet. The possibility of spontaneous separation,
    refinement, and run-away nuclear fission ("atomic-bomb"
    explosion) does not exist.

    I commend the article for being a well-written piece. Problems
    with poorly-located nuclear plants have resulted both from the
    dollar greed of the power industy managements, and from
    citizens' refusal to let power plants be built in safer places
    (the old "Not In My Back Yard" or NIMBY syndrome).

    While reading "To Disassemble the Machine", I had a happy
    thought: Why not do a 'worst case' scenario about problems with
    computer viruses? Why not even take a couple of _very_ minor
    liberties with the facts, and create a scenario to put fear into
    the heart of _every_ technically competent reader? . . . . . .
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    Well, I don't have to. The editors of TIME Magazine have done it
    for me -- and on the front cover, no less! They feature Computer
    Viruses on the front cover of their September 26th edition.
    Their set of articles insinuates that viruses are here, they're
    spreading fast, and that no BBS or computer network is safe.
    This issue of Time will certainly make future business for
    FidoNet quite ... interesting, shall we say? It scares the
    dickens out of _me_, that's for sure!

    Sadly, I think that this is a great and terrible piece of irony.
    "To Disassemble the Machine" strikes another blow in the
    direction of anti-technological ignorance. It practically
    screams its message of "Down with the nukes!" Now FidoNet will
    receive the same bitter fruit of non-technical ignorance,
    hatred, fear, and loathing -- directed at its own Bulletin Board
    Systems. The very system that has been such a medium of
    communication, and therefore such a benefit to Mankind, is laid
    low by ignorant 'experts' who think that they'll make a buck
    scaring the daylights of the average computer user. I don't
    appreciate FidoNews carrying that article, and I don't
    appreciate Time for printing that issue on computer viruses.

    I that that it goes to show that if you tolerate, even foster,
    anti-technological attitudes, and try to act the 'expert' about
    what you are attacking, it'll get back to you eventually. Or, as
    it was better said by someone else: "What goes around, comes
    around." God save us from 'experts'!

    Anybody for a nice, little, radioactive virus?

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    (I have expressed my own opinions here. In no way do I bear Mr.
    Rice or the editors and writers of TIME Magazine any personal
    ill will. My address is in this article. FLAMES > NUL.DEV, thank
    you.)


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            SYSOP LIABILITY FOR DISCLOSING PRIVATE MESSAGES

           In  what  appears  to  be the first case of its  kind,  an
    Indiana  law  student and BBS user has sued a  local  sysop,  Bob
    Predaina,  in  federal  court,  claiming  that  he  intentionally
    disclosed  her  private  electronic mail to  others  without  her
    permission.

           The  lawsuit,  which  is  in the early stages  and has not
    reached trial,  relies upon the Electronic Communications Privacy
    Act  of  1986 (the "ECPA"),  which makes  disclosure  of  private
    electronic  mail  without  consent either of the  sender  or  the
    recipient a federal crime.

            The ECPA does not obligate sysops  to  offer private mail
    on their systems. However, if a sysop promises private mail, that
    promise must be kept and the contents of private messages may not
    be disclosed without consent.

              The  ECPA  provides limited exceptions to  the  general
    rule  of no disclosure.  A sysop may voluntarily disclose to  law
    enforcement  authorities the contents of a message pertaining  to
    the commission of a crime,  if read inadvertently by him or if it
    is  read  pursuant  to the exercise of his  duties  as  a  sysop.

              Until  the courts clarify these rules,  sysops who read
    private mail on their systems and disclose it may be playing with
    fire.   Prior  court  cases  involving  telephone  operators have
    established  some useful  guidelines:  an  operator  may disclose
    information  she  overheard   while  checking  the  line  at  the
    user's  request,  but  may  not  disclose  information  overheard
    while  eavesdropping  out  of  curiosity.   Sysops,  like  phone
    operators, will not be considered to have a blanket authorization
    to intercept and disclose private messages.

              Systems  such  as  Fido 11W which  routinely  make  all
    private mail visible to the sysop are therefore problematic.  BBS
    programmers  should consider making private mail truly  private--
    while allowing sysops to turn the private mail option off if they
    do not want it.

              In the meantime, sysops should reconsider whether it is
    worth  having private mail on their systems and should make clear
    to users in no uncertain terms,  through bulletins and  messages,
    the degree of privacy which can be expected, if any.

              Note:  a copy of the complaint filed in the Thompson v.
    Predaina  case  is  available  on  the  LLM  BBS,   Fido  107/801
    ((212)766-3788) in file area 5 under the name "Indiana".

    *                     *                          *
     JONATHAN D. WALLACE, ESQ. is  an  attorney  in  New York City
    specializing in computer law.   With  Rees Morrison, he is the
    author of the Sysop's Legal Manual, published this year by LLM
    Press.   He can be reached at (212) 766-3785 (voice) or at the
    LLM BBS, given above.
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                                FOR SALE
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    If you are a system operator and wish to make money by
    distributing The Structured Programming Language, you
    can call a 2400 baud bbs in NY at 516 935 2027 and
    download file SPL.EXE which will take only 15 minutes.
    It is important to note that the self extracting archive
    file SPL.EXE has 2 files in it that are passsword locked
    and unless given the password will fail crc checks, but
    the files are good. These files are documentation that
    your users will contact me to get the passwords, which
    will insure that I get paid and thus you get paid.
    You will be paid $5 for every paid registration I get from
    users who tell me the filename that uniquely identifies
    your bbs as the distribution point for SPL.
    If you are not a sysop, you can make money after you
    register and pay for your copy of The Structured
    Programming Language. Call 516 694 5872 for details.
    Fill out the form below and mail with an SASE to:

    Dennis Baer
    25 Miller Road
    Farmingdale,NY 11735
    or you can call 516 694 5872.

    SYSOP name ______________________________

    Street     ______________________________

    City,State ______________________________

    Filename   ______________________________
    to rename
    SPL.EXE to

    The above information will be kept confidential.
    Leave filename field blank. I will fill that in
    for you to rename your file.

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    CROSSTALK XVI V. 3.61 FOR SALE

       One copy, original disk, mint condition.  Manual is complete,
    and not marked or dogeared.  Best offer over $50.  Reply via
    netmail to George Falcon at 1:109/648 24hrs./day, 7 days/wk.
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                                 NOTICES
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                         The Interrupt Stack


    23 Nov 1988
       25th Anniversary of "Dr. Who" - and still going strong

    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.

     5 Oct 1989
       20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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                         Fredric L. Rice
                           (103/503.3)

    Now wait  a minute.  There  has been  a  flood of  personal mail
    coming into this  system offering  support  against  a  rebuttal
    which occurred in  FidoNews  pertaining  to  "To Disassemble The
    Machine" which apparently came out this last month.

    It seems that a rebuttal  issued from the  MENSA Hub  was posted
    which  was  apparently  concerned with my  spelling and  use  of
    abbreviations which were misunderstood  by the author.  Though I
    haven't seen the rebuttal yet, the  general consensus in my mail
    describes  such  things  as the  use of  NRA  rather than NRC to
    describe the  Nuclear Regulatory Commission;  perhaps thinking I
    meant the  National  Rifle  Association?  It  seems  the  author
    doesn't   know  that   NRA  is  the  sister  Nuclear  Regulatory
    Association to the AEC, (that's Atomic Energy Commission, MENSA,
    not Automated Equipment Controller).

    As was suggested in some of my mail,  I would ask that  those of
    you who were offended by the rebuttal you read should _NOT_ post
    a  counter  rebuttal   in  FidoNews.  You  have  to  agree  that
    regardless of the media  used  and  the  research  performed  to
    develop an informed  article, there  is  always  someone  who is
    going to take intellectual  offense  and  post  a  response that
    yields nothing but an increase of  the noise-to-signal ratio  in
    FidoNews; increasing distribution costs throughout the network.

    At any rate, thanks for your support  and consideration. It will
    take quite a bit more  than this ignorance to cause  me to flame
    out of the net!

    - By the way: I am  _Fredric_ Rice, NOT  _David_.  David  is the
    Pagan with the tattoos  and a pentagram on his  shaven forehead.
    FidoNews 5-41                Page 14                  10 Oct 1988


    I'm the one with the Universal Mayhem  ear  rings and  the white
    high heals.

    Fredric L. Rice, (103/503.3), Astro-Net, (714) 622-2294.

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    FidoNews 5-41                Page 15                  10 Oct 1988


           OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION

    Hal DuPrie       101/106  Chairman of the Board
    Bob Rudolph      261/628  President
    Matt Whelan      3:3/1    Vice President
    Ray Gwinn        109/639  Vice President - Technical Coordinator
    David Garrett    103/501  Secretary
    Steve Bonine     115/777  Treasurer



                        IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

        DIVISION                               AT-LARGE

    10  Courtney Harris   102/732?        Don Daniels     107/210
    11  Bill Allbritten   11/301          Hal DuPrie      101/106
    12  Bill Bolton       3:54/61         Mark Grennan    147/1
    13  Rick Siegel       107/27          Steve Bonine    115/777
    14  Ken Kaplan        100/22          Ted Polczyinski 154/5
    15  Larry Kayser      104/739?        Matt Whelan     3:3/1
    16  Vince Perriello   141/491         Robert Rudolph  261/628
    17  Rob Barker        138/34          Steve Jordan    102/2871
    18  Christopher Baker 135/14          Bob Swift       140/24
    19  David Drexler     19/1            Larry Wall      15/18
     2  Henk Wevers       2:500/1         David Melnik    107/233

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    FidoNews 5-41                Page 16                  10 Oct 1988


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           Membership for the International FidoNet Association

    Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
    pays  a  specified  annual   membership  fee.   IFNA  serves  the
    international  FidoNet-compatible  electronic  mail  community to
    increase worldwide communications.

    Member Name _______________________________  Date _______________
    Address _________________________________________________________
    City ____________________________________________________________
    State ________________________________  Zip _____________________
    Country _________________________________________________________
    Home Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________
    Work Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________

    Zone:Net/Node Number ____________________________________________
    BBS Name ________________________________________________________
    BBS Phone Number ________________________________________________
    Baud Rates Supported ____________________________________________
    Board Restrictions ______________________________________________

    Your Special Interests __________________________________________
    _________________________________________________________________
    _________________________________________________________________
    In what areas would you be willing to help in FidoNet? __________
    _________________________________________________________________
    _________________________________________________________________
    Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in
    US Funds to:
                  International FidoNet Association
                  PO Box 41143
                  St Louis, Missouri 63141
                  USA

    Thank you for your membership!  Your participation will help to
    insure the future of FidoNet.

    Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
    and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
    membership in January 1987.  The second elected Board of Directors
    was filled in August 1988.  The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
    established on FidoNet to assist the Board.  We welcome your
    input to this Conference.

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    FidoNews 5-41                Page 17                  10 Oct 1988


                  INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
                           ORDER FORM

                          Publications

    The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido
    1:1/10 or  other FidoNet compatible  systems, or by purchasing
    them directly from IFNA.  We ask that  all our  IFNA Committee
    Chairmen   provide  us   with  the  latest  versions  of  each
    publication, but we can make no written guarantees.

    Hardcopy prices as of October 1, 1986

    IFNA Fido BBS listing                       $15.00    _____
    IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs             $10.00    _____
    IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs       $10.00    _____

                                              SUBTOTAL    _____

                   IFNA Member ONLY Special Offers

    System Enhancement Associates SEAdog        $60.00    _____
    SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987
    ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member

    Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet               $100.00    _____
    Fido/FidoNet price as of November 1, 1987
    ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member

    International orders include $10.00 for
           surface shipping or $20.00 for air shipping    _____

                                              SUBTOTAL    _____

                MO. Residents add 5.725% Sales Tax         _____

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