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Table of Contents
1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
IFNA Should Adopt an Advocacy Mission .................... 1
The Week of 10-16 July 88! ............................... 3
The Week of 24-29 July 88! ............................... 4
TBBS User Group Symposium ................................ 5
2. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
The Priven Creed ......................................... 8
3. FOR SALE ................................................. 10
Programs too big? Give 'em the AXE! ..................... 10
U.S. Robotics 2400 bps internal modems ................... 11
4. NOTICES .................................................. 12
The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 12
Latest Software Versions ................................. 14
And more!
FidoNews 5-32 Page 1 8 Aug 1988
The IFNA Should Focus on Advocacy for the Fidonet Hobby
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Members of the IFNA and participants in Fidonet agree that
the IFNA is having a tough time coping with Fidonet's growth
and remarkable technical advances. Part of the problem is
that the IFNA has not been able to anticipate the incredible
success Fidonet has enjoyed. It has tried, beyond the time
when it is possible, to be all things to all people. As a
result, Fidonet has not fulfilled satisfactorily the
expectations of anyone.
I feel that there is a fundamental incompatibility within
the IFNA: On the one hand IFNA tries to run a net and
balance all the competing interests of the net while at the
same time attempting to play an advocacy role.
Advocacy and service delivery do not mix well, hence all the
complaints about, "An undemocratic Fidonet." In my view,
these complaints are a reflection of the mixing of
incompatible missions in one organization, not a lack of
democracy.
It is time for the IFNA to re-position itself with a new,
much narrower mission. It is time for the IFNA to get out
of the Fidonet business. The mission of the IFNA should be
to:
- Increase understanding and support for the Fidonet hobby
by disseminating information about networks using Fidonet
technology to the general public and the
telecommunications industry,
- Maintain technical standards in order to ensure
compatibility, portability, and high standards of
performance within nets using the Fidonet technology,
- Represent and protect the interests of the Fidonet
community with manufacturers, government agencies, and
common carriers in the United States and abroad, and
- Maintain a visible, stable, financially responsible, and
democratic association which acts as an open, accessible
forum that brings people together for the common good of
the hobby.
FidoNews 5-32 Page 2 8 Aug 1988
You will note that there is nothing in this proposed mission
statement about owning and maintaining a nodelist, or
administering the Fidonet. These are functions which the
IFNA should phase down.
A much reduced Fidonet should be maintained only for the
internal use of the IFNA in carrying out its mission. The
Fidonet would then only be open to IFNA members and be
devoted to exchange of information about technical
standards, the latest rulings of the FCC and other
authorities, efforts to advocate for favorable rulings,
information about new products of interest to the Fidonet
community, etc.
Needless to say minutes of IFNA meetings, discussions
regarding IFNA affairs, distribution of Fidonews, and even
committee meetings would occur through the Fidonet.
Already at least two alternative nets have emerged using
Fidonet technology. One is Alternet, the other is EggNet.
A third, LCRNET (Least Cost Routing Net) has been proposed.
Such nets should be encouraged, and a sysop should be able
to choose among various nets based upon his interests and
inclinations.
Each of these nets will maintain their nodelist, and the new
sysop would obtain a number in the net of his choice.
Fidonet would seldom be an appropriate first choice unless
the sysop had a strong commitment to participating in IFNA
affairs.
Gateways between the nets could be established at the local
calling area level, so no one in one net should feel that he
would be missing out in something happening in another net.
These arrangements are already a reality in many areas.
This approach addresses the question of the proportions of
future nodelists, a problem which is most easily
resolved by the existence of independent nets.
The IFNA will end up stronger and more effective by
restricting itself to an advocacy mission, and letting
others administer nets, some democratic, some autocratic.
Thus, a sysop will able to choose the net(s) he belongs
to according to his interests, values, and philosophy. Once
IFNA has redefined a narrowed mission it will hopefully no
longer be mired in a vortex of flames and devisiveness that
has characterized its recent history. Rather, it will be
able to achieve its potential as an advocate of the Fidonet
Hobby.
Well it is that time of the week again. I just finnished
deleting all of the messages and *.dat files created in the
message areas by Confmail and OPUS toss functions. For some
reason over the last 2 weeks I have had to kill almost 4 megs of
bad_bndl messages. At first I thought it may have been the system
from which I was geting the mail from but it has seem to have
also gone over to another system which up til this week had been
reliable. There we a lot of duplicate messages being passed
around but most of them were not getting into the system
So in doing my normal purge of messages this PM I took the giant
step for BBSing around the world. I used the Norton WipeFile
program and Wiped the files clean. It has seem to clear up some
of the other problems I was starting to have. Like time being
off. I booted the system, reset the time, and when it rebooted
at 23:59 like it is suppose to it had a different date and time
than what I had set it with only moments earlier.
After having our Net Echo Feed drop the majority of our echo
mail, I have scrambled to pick up the echo's from where ever I
could. It is impractical to make one phone call of 30 minutes
each night, when you can make 2 phone calls of 10 minutes and get
the same stuff. Do not ask me why except that it seems that the
backbone may be feeding more messages than the little off the
wall pickup. I should not call calling to Louisiana a little of
the wall. But it is cheaper for me to call La than to call
Pheonix.
Well here it is Saturday afternoon and after looking at the log
for last night I noticed I made connections with the usual boards
and picked up the usual mail but I did notice there were no
BAD_BNDl's in the root directory. So apparently what we have
done here in 301 has at least temporarily fixed our minor problem
of duplicate messages, and now the Bad Bundle fiasco.
As mentioned in last weeks article, though we may be one of the
smallest net's around, we are growing. I have had request for
two new node numbers, and as soon as they get their BBS's
operational and send me net mail stating so I will be issuing
node numbers for these to. So you can look forward to at least
two more BBS's going online here in Albuquerque shortly.
In the mean time, as usual you are indeed reading the Fido News
Letter if you are reading this article. Or you are reading the
High Mesa Ranger's News Letter, or you may well be reading the
OPUS Gazette.
Well after getting node 301/4 set up and operational last
week I kinda figured this week would be a breeze. I came in and
was doing some work on the echo areas. Deleteing those I no
longer was carrying and cleaning up the meassge area for future
use. It did not take very long to do all of this but it was a
tedious task.
I had done everything I wanted to and was satisfied with my
acomplishments. What I was hoping to do was reduce my phone bill
for echo mail and gain some disk space back I had lost because of
the size of a couple of the message area I was getting. I had
let things go for a couple of days when I was checking the
OPUS.LOG. I noticed an error message I had not seen before. It
was:
! 25 Jul 1:09:23 OPUS Bad echo line: ` '
I for one had never seen that particular message before but
being the good sysop I try to be. I sat down at the machine and
tried to figure out what was happening with my Echo Control file.
I spent about 3 days deleteing lines and adding lines and just
plain old normal problem seeking. After the 3rd day I became
rather frustrated and decided to do the sensible thing. I went
in and make a printed copy of my ctl file and then I did the
ultimate. I erased the ECHO.CTL file completely and restarted
all over over again. Apparently what ever it was was not visible
to the naked eye or the careful look see of my wife. I still do
not know exactly what was causing the Bad echo line: ` ' message
but I suspect it could have been a blank space at the end of one
of the lines and I was just missing it.
Well this week has come and gone rather quickly. I spent a
lot of time at the office writing some application files for
RBASE for dos. One which allows me to have the JULIAN date for
leap years and normal years with out having to look on a piece of
paper or calender it come up on the screen when I want it to. I
also spent a lot of time working on another one which will allow
me to place the date and time a file was updated into a variable
and a data column. So I was rather busy here and at work also.
It has been raining almost every night here in Albuquerque,
the flood we had a couple of weeks ago has everyone watching the
sky for those frequent rain storms. It clears up in the morning
but then in the afternoon when the heat starts to go up so do the
clouds and then around 6PM here comes the little water drops.
Well another month has gone by the way side also and summer
is almost gone. An it is time for me to close so I will get out
of the way and let you read some of the other articles in the
News Letter.
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FidoNews 5-32 Page 5 8 Aug 1988
TBBS User Group Symposium
Larry Kayser
1st TBBS USER GROUP SYMPOSIUM
Phil Becker has announced that "After being asked over the last
year by many TBBS customers, and more recently after Larry Kayser
twisted my arm a bit", he has decided to put together the 1st
Annual TBBS User's Group Symposium.
Since I did not get back out of the way fast enough I have been
enlisted to help in putting together the program. We have
secured facilities in Denver for the meeting, and it will take
place the Weekend of September 24th. Plans are for a day and a
half intensive meeting, with teaching seminars on Menu building,
Editor usage, Large System Configuration etc." The preliminary
schedule is as follows :
Drafted 06/09/88
Friday, September 23
5:00 - 10:00 pm - Registration
7:00 - 10:00 pm - Get Acquainted Hospitality
Saturday, September 24
7:45 - 8:45 am - Breakfast
7:45 - 11:00 am - Registration
9:00 - 10:15 am - Third Part Software Presentations
---------------------------------
An overview of currently available third
party enhancement software for TBBS
Version 2.0.
10:15 - 10:45 am - Break
10:45 - 12:00 pm - TBBS 2.1 Features and Functions
-------------------------------
A discussion by Phil Becker of the
enhancements in release 2.1 of both
single and multi-line TBBS.
12:15 - 1:15 pm - Lunch
1:30 - 3:00 pm - Effective Menu Design
---------------------
Detailed tutorial examples of how to
design an effective TBBS menu system
including menu sets, control options,
security and hardware selection.
Specific examples will be fully
FidoNews 5-32 Page 6 8 Aug 1988
developed during this session to
illustrate implementation of the most
common design questions. Handouts
covering all topics will be provided.
3:00 - 3:30 pm - Break
3:30 - 5:00 pm Applications of Version 2.1
Features & Functions
----------------------------------------
A demonstration of the use of the new
version 2.1 features and functions in
specific applications. In addition use
of the new System Design Language (SDL)
compiler to ease large system
development will be detailed. Specific
examples will be fully developed during
this session to illustrate
implementation of the 2.1 features.
Handouts covering all topics will be
provided.
5:00 - 6:30 pm - Free Time
6:30 - 7:30 pm - Reception
7:30 - 9:30 pm - Dinner, Awards, Keynote Speaker
9:30 - 11:30 pm - eSoft Hospitality Suite
Sunday, Sept 25
7:45 - 8:45 am - Breakfast
9:00 - 10:15 am - TBBS Design Considerations Pt 1
-------------------------------
An in-depth discussion of ideas and
techniques related to TBBS
implementation including capacity and
performance planning issues. This
session will highlight techniques for
assessing hardware requirements based on
number of lines, line speed and system
usage.
10:15 - 10:45 am - Break
10:45 - 11:30 am - TBBS Design Considerations Pt 2
-------------------------------
Large Capacity disk, Storage
alternatives, and disk management
techniques will be examined. The impact
of these on TBBS performance will be
detailed, and use of the new 2.1
Performance monitor to evaluate disk and
CPU impact under actual load will be
FidoNews 5-32 Page 7 8 Aug 1988
discussed.
11:30 - 12:00 pm - Closing Session
Breakout rooms and facilities will be available during the
meeting to support any "birds of a feather" sessions that may
develop.
Phil has indicated that "My goal to provide an affordable and
very useful meeting this first time out". Further more he
indicated that " I intend this session to be of maximum use to
those who know what they want to do with TBBS, but may not know
HOW to do it. You will leave the session with many concrete
examples of techniques of information presentation which were
fully explained in the seminar presentations. These will also
be made available to you on disks to take back along with
printed workbooks. I feel this session will be well worth the
price of coming for all who can attend".
Pricing
Hotel
-------
$45 single
$55 (single or double suite)
Conference
------------
$100 includes all Saturday meals and Sunday Breakfast.
For additional information contact eSoft at (303) 699-6565.
The Priven Creed
By Aaron Priven
Fidonet 1:204/1154
I dropped out of the various sysop echos some time back. I did
this because I found myself too caught up in arguments over
Fidonet policy. I found myself caught in a bitter argument with
someone I respected greatly. (I still do.) I simply couldn't
deal with the fact that someone like that could disagree with me
that strongly -- strongly enough to flame me.
I've realized now that the reason he did that wasn't because he
really hated me. It was because he was too tied up with this
authority thing that he couldn't grasp the fact that I was just
stating an opinion. (He kept asking me who I was representing,
what I stood to gain from what I said, and so on.) He was just
too caught up in the power play of Net Politics to listen to what
I said instead of a supposed ulterior motive.
Well, I'm back now. It's not exactly my own choice. I am going
away to school in September, and one of my users may be
interested in taking over my BBS when that happens. Since that
person has little technical expertise, and very little concept of
the net itself, I thought it would help to give the person
read-only access to these conferences and answer questions
myself. But to do that I have to read the areas.
So I am writing, mostly for my own benefit, a creed of what I
will and will not do in these areas. It may not be easy to
follow, but I will try.
1. I will NOT respond to any messages about Fidonet or Echomail
policy, or mention it in my own messages. It just isn't important
enough to spend time and get stressed from. THE MAIL WILL STILL
FLOW even if the policymaking structures fall on their faces.
What's really important is the ability to communicate with
people, and as long as that is accomplished, Fidonet is doing its
job. If other people have other ideas of what Fidonet is supposed
to do, that's ok, as long as the mail flows. (There may be
exceptions to this -- for example, I read in INTERUSER that in
some places there is a pseudo-IFNA rule that there is no
political discussion allowed in any echos. This kind of
censorship is overriding.)
2. I will NOT flame anyone. If I do flame anyone I have been
incredibly rude and have hurt the possibility of discussion.
3. I will NOT respond to flames in a like manner. I WILL take
flames seriously and critically examine them for truthful
statements, and if I find any, try to correct flaws in myself.
I am not perfect and I must recognize that.
FidoNews 5-32 Page 9 8 Aug 1988
4. I WILL obey General Echomail Etiquette. (No ads in non-ad
areas, no personal messages, no all-uppercase messages, etc.)
Well, that's it. I can't think of any other rules to put down.
I will try my hardest to obey this creed. It won't be easy, and
at times I know I'll transgress the limits. If I do, please
remind me.
I give this to you in hopes that maybe one or two of you will
realize what I've been trying to say: FIDONET POLICY IS NOT
IMPORTANT. It doesn't matter. Who cares if there are two echomail
distribution networks, or one, or eight, or 900. Who cares if
there are independent zones or not. Who cares if there are two
or twelve or six hundred little networks. It doesn't matter. You
still get your echos, you still have a Fidonet address. The
important things are all there. Let the rest alone and let those
who really do have a Power Play mindset play with it. It doesn't
matter anyway.
=================================================================
FOR SALE
=================================================================
Programs too big? Give 'em the AXE!
What could SEA do to top it's phenominally successful ARC
program?
Well, have you noticed that new programs from SEA don't seem to
ARC very well lately?
* * *
System Enhancement Associates, Inc. is proud to announce the
latest and greatest addition to our line of quality software.
Our new product is called AXE, and it can chop your programs down
to size!
If you thought ARC was good, wait until you see AXE! It can
compress almost any .EXE or .COM file by twenty to thirty
percent, saving you megabytes of disk space. And, here's the
best part, the programs don't have to be uncompressed to run!
That's right, you can AXE all your programs and make them twenty
to thirty percent smaller (or MORE), and they still run just like
they always did. You'll never even notice you AXEd them, but
you'll sure notice the extra disk space!
AXE is available for $50 from:
System Enhancement Associates, Inc.
21 New Street, Wayne NJ 07470
or you can call us (voice) at 201-473-5153. We accept VISA and
MasterCard. Get AXE today, and chop your programs down to size!
U.S. Robotics 2400 bps internal, half-length modems are still
available to SysOps and friends for $155.00 (prepaid, shipping
included; COD ok for $150 plus shipping/insurance if you are a
FidoNet SysOp). Check or money order accepted for payment, no
credit cards.
Contact John Hamilton at 143/8 for information if you wish to
place an order. There is no quantity limitation. You want 200 of
them? Go ahead, make my day! Discounts can be negotiated for
quantities over five, but I will gladly sell one at a time.
To date, over two dozen sysops have purchased one of these
modems from me, and I am glad to be able to continue to offer
to pass along a bargain available to me because of some R&D I
am doing.
25 Aug 1988
Start of the Fifth International FidoNet Conference, to be
held at the Drawbridge Inn in Cincinnati, OH. Contact Tim
Sullivan at 108/62 for more information. This is FidoNet's big
annual get-together, and is your chance to meet all the people
you've been talking with all this time. We're hoping to see
you there!
24 Aug 1989
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
5 Oct 1989
20th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
If you have something which you would like to see on this
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
Rob Barker 138/34
Chairman, Elections and Nominations Committee
RULES AND PROCEDURES
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the IFNA Board of Directors. The following are the few rules
which must prevail in this election:
1. You must send a legible copy of this ballot to the address
listed on the ballot or cast your vote in person at the
conference prior to the closing of the election Polls. It must
be signed and bear your current net/node number.
2. You may vote for any person in your Division for the position
of Divisional Director. This vote is to be cast in the LEFT
column of the ballot.
3. You may vote for any six people for the position of Director
at Large. These votes are to be cast in the RIGHT column of
the ballot.
4. Voting will continue until the end of the Conference
registration on the 24th of August, 1988. Ballots which are
mailed must reach the address listed below prior to Tuesday, 23
August 1988. The results will be read during the opening of
business meeting on the first day of the conference.
5. Write-in votes will be accepted and are requested during this
FidoNews 5-32 Page 13 8 Aug 1988
DIVISION 10:
Jim Bacon 103/507 _____ _____
Courtney Harris 102/732 _____ _____
Steve Jordan 102/2871 _____ _____
DIVISION 12:
Bill Bolton 711/403 _____ _____
Leonard Mednick 345/1 _____ _____
DIVISION 14:
Glen Jackson 100/517 _____ _____
Ken Kaplan 100/22 _____ _____
DIVISION 16:
Vince Perriello 141/491 (1)
DIVISION 18:
Chris Baker 18/14 (1)
ADDITIONAL AT-LARGE
Steve Bonine 115/777 _____
Don Daniels 107/210 _____
Dave Melnik 107/233 _____
Robert Rudolph 261/628 _____
Greg Small 148/122 _____
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Director with no further voting procedure necessary as per By
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"The Nominations and Elections Committee shall delet the name of
any nominee who mayt be ineligible for election and the name of
any who may withdraw by written communications. The remaining
names shall be listed on a ballot, in alphabetical order. IF
THERE BE BUT ONE ELIGIBLE NOMINEE, THE NOMINATIONS AND ELECTION
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COMMITTEE SHALL DECLARE HIM ELECTED WITHOUT BALLOTING BY THE
MEMBERSHIP. (Emphasis added. -rb) If there be more than one
eligible nominee, then at least 45 days prior to the Annual
Meeting the Secretary shall send by mail to every voting member,
and publish in FidoNews, a bollot listing the candidates for
director. The ballor shall contain a copy of the current
voting rules."
Name ______________________________ Net/Node ___________
Signature______________________________ Date ___________
Please complete this and mail it to:
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IFNA Elections Committee
7406 - 27th Street West
Suite #7, Plaza West
Tacoma, Wa 98466
or bring it with you when you come to the conference in August.
Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
The following is the Ballot for the voting on the proposed
amendments to the By-Laws of the International FidoNet
Association (IFNA) for 1988. By-Law Item 40 states that "These
By-Laws may be amended or changed by majority vote of the
membership during any election. ..." These amendments are to be
voted on in conjunction with the current Election of the IFNA
Board of Directors and are to conform to the following rules:
1. You must send a legible copy of this ballot to the address
listed on the ballot or cast your vote in person at the
conference prior to the closing of the election Polls. It must
be signed and bear your current net/node number.
2. Voting will continue until the end of the Conference
registration on the 25th of August, 1988. Ballots which are
mailed must reach the address listed below prior to Wednesday,
24 August 1988. The results will be read during the opening of
business meeting on the first day of the conference.
The actual text of the proposed amendments appeared in FidoNews
volume 5 issue 31, dated 1 August 1988. The complete text of the
proposed amendments along with a copy of this Ballot is available
as BYLAW-88.ARC for download from 1:140/24, or may be file-
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International FidoNet Association
1988 By-Law Amendments Ballot
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Docket Number BLA-88-0004 (Annual Fees)
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Docket Number BLA-88-0005 (Directors' Successors)
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Docket Number BLA-88-0018 (Voting Divisions)
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Don Daniels 107/210 President
Mark Grennan 147/1 Vice President
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IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS
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14 Ken Kaplan 100/22 Ted Polczyinski 154/5
15 Jim Cannell 128/13 Kurt Reisler 109/74
16 Vince Perriello 141/491 Robert Rudolph 261/628
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International FidoNet Association
c/o Leonard Mednick, CPA
700 Bishop Street, #1014
Honolulu, HI 96813 USA
IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization. Articles of
Association and By-Laws were adopted by the membership in January
1987. The IFNA Echomail Conference has been established on
FidoNet to assist the Board of Directors. We welcome your input
on this Conference.
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FidoNews 5-32 Page 21 8 Aug 1988
INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
ORDER FORM
Publications
The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido
1:1/10 or other FidoNet compatible systems, or by purchasing
them directly from IFNA. We ask that all our IFNA Committee
Chairmen provide us with the latest versions of each
publication, but we can make no written guarantees.
System Enhancement Associates SEAdog $60.00 _____
SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987
ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member
Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet $100.00 _____
Fido/FidoNet price as of November 1, 1987
ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member
International orders include $10.00 for
surface shipping or $20.00 for air shipping _____
SUBTOTAL _____
HI. Residents add 4.0 % Sales tax _____
TOTAL _____
SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER IN US FUNDS:
International FidoNet Association
c/o Leonard Mednick, MBA, CPA
700 Bishop Street, #1014
Honolulu, HI. 96813-4112
USA
