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Editor in Chief Dale Lovell
Editor Emeritus: Thom Henderson
Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
Contributing Editors: Al Arango
FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
node 1:1/1.
Copyright 1988 by the International FidoNet Association. All
rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for
noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.
Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of
Fido Software, 164 Shipley Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94107 and
are used with permission.
The contents of the articles contained here are not our
responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them.
Everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING
received.
Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
Questions Concerning FidoNet ............................. 1
2. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
New EchoMail Conference: OS/9? ........................... 3
Two and Three Dimensional Numerical Movements ............ 4
3. NOTICES .................................................. 10
The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 10
Latest Software Versions ................................. 10
4. COMMITTEE REPORTS ........................................ 12
New Discounts for IFNA Members ........................... 12
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EDITORIAL
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QUESTIONS CONCERNING FIDONET
Do you believe that FidoNet should be used to promote
international communications and good-will?
Do you believe that FidoNet should be used to assist a wide
variety of charitable concerns?
Do you wish to enjoy more communications-oriented and ancillary
services?
Do you wish to reduce the size of your monthly phone bill?
Do you believe that FidoNet's future directions should be decided
not by a few but democratically by all those concerned?
Do you think that FidoNet should be a place of fair treatment,
justice and respect for one another?
Do you want to see an end to the squabbling and confusion and see
everyone turn their attention toward making FidoNet all that it
can be?
Do you believe that FidoNet should be protected from adverse
outside influences?
Do you believe that the financial burden of supporting FidoNet
should be borne by others than sysops only?
If you have answered "Yes" to any of the questions above, you
have a reason for joining and supporting IFNA. IFNA supports and
is working for implementation of all those ideals stated above.
There is a popular misconception that IFNA is some outside
agency, come to wrest control of FidoNet from those that are
currently running it. In fact, nothing could be further from the
truth. The Coordinator Structure was originally created by past
and present leaders of IFNA. It is fully supported by IFNA which
recognizes the benefits of maintaining the current separation of
responsibilities wherein the operational concerns are handled by
the coordinators while the IFNA structures deal with all the
political considerations. Efforts are underway now on both sides
to jointly define the limits of responsibility of the respective
bodies and the details of the necessary interfaces between them.
Nearly every Regional Coordinator has, by joining IFNA, stated a
recognition of the need for the political organization that IFNA
can provide for representing FidoNet's interests with all outside
agencies and for making sure that FidoNet is responsive to the
needs and will of all, not just a few.
FidoNews 5-17 Page 2 25 Apr 1988
Who are the leaders of FidoNet who have not become members of
IFNA? Not very many. And why? Because those diligently working
to serve FidoNet recognize that there are many potential benefits
to be gained for FidoNet from such an organization. That's
certainly not to say that everyone agrees on what those benefits
should be or how they should be attained, but IFNA still provides
the structure and rules that presently allow the greatest chance
for these and similar questions to be resolved.
Have you noticed that Tom Jennings, the "Father of FIdoNet" is
not only an IFNA member and supporter, but has also charged IFNA
with executing his long-standing principles of promoting FidoNet
for the good of all that would use and serve it well? Who do you
think TJ supports - those that are trying to make the most out of
the many opportunities that IFNA offers FidoNet or those that
would cripple or destroy it? On which side are you?
If you are a sysop that cares about FidoNet's future and
believes in all the benefits that so many can can derive from
it, you owe it to them, yourself, and those that have already
committed so much to FidoNet, to take full advantage of the
opportunities IFNA provides:
o Leadership - If you have ideas of what FidoNet should be,
IFNA provides you many positions from which you can promote
them.
o Representation - If you can't participate directly, you can
utilize the various democratic processes of IFNA to still
have your concerns and ideas heard and acted upon.
o Optimization - By pooling resources and talents you can
optimize the efforts of yourself and others towards whatever
aspects of the common good you choose.
o Fellowship - By forgoing a contentious position and joining
in with fellow sysops actively trying to solve current
problems and meet future needs, you should share a greater
understanding and respect. And the fun should come back.
If you don't accept IFNA as simply a tool that you can manipulate
to accomplish what you want for FidoNet, then you are cheating
yourself and all of FidoNet.
Don Daniels, President
International FidoNet Association
1:107/210
If you doubt what has been said above, send me a message. Please
include your voice line and indicate a good time for a return
call. We're willing to try and find the common ground so that we
all may build upon it.
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ARTICLES
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New EchoMail Conference: OS/9?
Robert Heller @ Locks-Hill-BBS.NA.FIDONET (1:322/410.0)
I am looking for other people who are interested in the OS/9
operating system, particularly the 68000 version. I have two
68K systems: an Atari 1040ST (running TOS and OS/9-68000 V2.2)
and a Stride 440 (running CP/M-68K V1.2). OS/9 is a somewhat
UNIX-like operating system, but smaller and saner. It was
originally written for the Radio Shack ColorComputer (a
6809-based BASIC-in-ROM toy), but has been ported to the 68000
family, including the Atari ST series. I plan to port it to my
Stride 440 this summer.
If you are interested in carrying an OS/9 echo, please
contact me via NetMail.
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FidoNews 5-17 Page 4 25 Apr 1988
Fredric L. Rice
(103/503.3 - Astro-Net)
There is a program which allows the operator to symbolically
move objects within a two dimensional representation of a grid
whose dimensions are usually one hundred by one hundred points.
Working within these limits, the object is moved from point
to point searching for other objects by employing a limited
field of vision. This program, if you haven't already guessed,
is the old Star Trek game.
Variations tried years after the initial release, after the
newness of hunting down defenseless Klingons and reducing them
to numeric rubble, included the movement of the searching ship
within a three dimensional model, usually cubic though there
have been spherical implementations which were experimentations
on various search patterns within a limited volume while trying
to maintain a distance from the limits at velocity.
Within this article I have described the numerical methodology
and formula for performing symbolic movement within a two
dimensional and three dimensional grid of infinity sans one
grid points, (which means that no limit detection code has been
included).
We will use the "Galileian system of co-ordinates" to describe
grid points along lines, squares, and cubes. Because we are to
work in an almost-infinite model, we will call the "Center" of
the model our point of reference. Though we will not encompass
a limitation of visibility, we will restrict the number of grid
points worked with to usually nine in the two dimensional
models and usually 27 within the three dimensional models. One
dimensional concepts will not be tolerated within this article.
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Two Dimensional movements within a grid:
Let us suppose that you are standing at Galileian position 2, 2
in a grid of 3 by 3 points, (referred to as x position 2 and y
position 2, or simply xpos 2 and ypos 2 from now on). You are
standing at this position and wish to translate your position
into another by applying movement towards another point. (Let's
further assume that movement between points is illegal in this
universe as that is another article).
Before applying numerical formula to progress from point to
point, let's lay down out simple two dimensional model and then
apply relative values to them:
1,1 1,2 1,3
2,1 2,2 2,3
3,1 3,2 3,3
We consider ourself to be at xpos 2 and ypos 2. Now let's apply
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the relative numerical values to use to these points:
-1,-1 -1,+0 -1,+1
+0,-1 +0,+0 +0,+1
+1,-1 +1,+0 +1,+1
If we wish to apply direction of travel, we would assign each
grid point reference a number; perhaps like this:
1 2 3
-1,-1 -1,+0 -1,+1
4 +0,-1 +0,+0 +0,+1 6
+1,-1 +1,+0 +1,+1
7 8 9
To move towards direction 1, we take current xpos minus 1, the
current ypos minus 1, and there we are. 2-1 = 1 and 2-1 = 1 so
the final translation yields 1,1, where we wish to be.
Another example might be to travel towards direction 7 where we
take current xpos plus 1 and current ypos minus 1. 2+1 = 3 and
2-1 = 1 so the final translation offers 3,1.
If no movement along a dimension is required, such as is moving
towards direction 6, we take current xpos plus 0 and current
ypos plus 1. Yield is 2+0 = 2 and 2+1 = 3 or 2,3.
Simple enough; now let's apply "distance" to move using the
same model:
Let's move outside the model towards direction 6 for a distance
of four. To do such, simply multiply the reference grid by four
to yield the proper offsets to center:
At direction 6, 0 times 4 = 0 and 1 times four = 4. Apply the
current xpos of 2+4x0 = 2 and current ypos of 2+4*1 = 6, or a
new grid reference of 2,6. We can make verification by
expanding out the model if you wish:
1,1 1,2 1,3 1,4 1,5 1,6
2,1 2,2 2,3 2,4 2,5 2,6
3,1 3,2 3,3 3,4 3,5 3,6
From 2,2 towards direction 6 for 4 points you get 2,6.
A simple way, then, to represent such movement within a game is
to put your reference grid into an array:
dim reference%(9)
for rloop% = 1 to 9
read reference%(rloop%)
next rloop%
data -1,-1,-1,0,-1,1
data 0,-1, 0,0, 0,1
data 1,-1, 1,0, 1,1
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To move from current xpos, ypos to new xpos, ypos, for a number
of grid points "distance" in direction "direction" would then
be:
xpos = xpos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 2) + 1) * distance)
ypos = ypos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 2) + 2) * distance)
Note that by performing the above formula from a near-edge grid
point, you may leave the model by allowing new xpos and ypos to
go negative or exceed the desired limits if any.
For the non-programmers among FidoNet; direction is
decremented and then multiplied by two. The result is
incremented and the result is used to index into the array to
acquire the reference information. That value is multiplied by
the distance which is then added to the current xpos. The
calculation of the ypos is much the same yet two is added to
the index when acquiring the reference value from the array.
A current xpos of 2 and ypos of 2, towards direction 6 for a
distance of four could then be calculated as:
direction - 1 = 5
5 * 2 = 10
10 + 1 = 11
reference%(11) = 0
0 * distance = 0
xpos + 0 = 2 or a new xpos of 2
direction - 1 = 5
5 * 2 = 10
10 + 2 = 12
reference%(12) = 1
1 * distance = 4
ypos + 4 = 6 or a new ypos of 6
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Three dimensional movements within a cube:
Visualization of the reference grid created for three
dimensional movements is a little more complicated so the
models drawn here are done in a three-tiered or three-level
method. There will, however, be an additional convention used
and that is ypos to represent the additional dimension.
To represent movement from enter out to all other points will
require 81 reference points where "Center" is considered to be
point 2,2,2 using Galileian system of co-ordinates:
1,1,1 1,2,1 1,3,1
2,1,1 2,2,1 2,3,1
3,1,1 3,2,1 3,3,1
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1,1,2 1,2,2 1,3,2
2,1,2 2,2,2 2,3,2
3,1,2 3,2,2 3,3,2
1,1,3 1,2,3 1,3,3
2,1,3 2,2,3 2,3,3
3,1,3 3,2,3 3,3,3
Again, lets apply numeric values to each grid point so that a
since of direction may be applied when moving from 2,2,2 to all
other points:
1 2 3
1,1,1 1,2,1 1,3,1
4 2,1,1 2,2,1 2,3,1 6
3,1,1 3,2,1 3,3,1
7 8 9
10 11 12
1,1,2 1,2,2 1,3,2
13 2,1,2 2,2,2 2,3,2 15
3,1,2 3,2,2 3,3,2
16 17 18
19 20 21
1,1,3 1,2,3 1,3,3
22 2,1,3 2,2,3 2,3,3 24
3,1,3 3,2,3 3,3,3
25 26 27
To apply reference points for this model, let's change the
rules just a little. Rather than applying -1, +1, and 0 to the
model, lets simply apply the symbols - + and o respectively:
(Well it saves paper...):
+-- +o- ++-
o-- oo- o+-
--- -o- -+-
+-o +oo ++o
o-o ooo o+o
--o -oo -+o
+-+ +o+ +++
o-+ oo+ o++
--+ -o+ -++
As with the two dimensional model, practical applications in a
program would look something like this:
dim reference%(81)
for rloop% = 1 to 81
read reference%(rloop%)
next rloop%
data 1,-1,-1, 1,0,-1, 1,1,-1
data 0,-1,-1, 0,0,-1, 0,1,-1
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data -1,-1,-1, -1,0,-1, -1,1,-1
data 1,-1,0, 1,0,0, 1,1,0
data 0,-1,0, 0,0,0, 0,1,0
data -1,-1,0, -1,0,0, -1,1,0
data 1,-1,1, 1,0,1, 1,1,1
data 0,-1,1, 0,0,1, 0,1,1
data -1,-1,1, -1,0,1, -1,1,1
By progressing the above formula used to move from center to
another grid point, we can assume the following:
xpos = xpos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 3) + 1) * distance)
ypos = ypos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 3) + 2) * distance)
zpos = zpos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 3) + 3) * distance)
(Notice that this time, the number of the multiplier has been
changed from 2 to 3 to represent the number of dimensions).
Though a good cube can not be drawn here with all of the grid
points referenced, we can still apply the formula.
Assume a current xpos of 2, ypos of 2, and zpos of 2. Further
assume a direction of 22 for a simple distance of one, (make a
reference to the above model to see that the result should
equal 2,1,3). Here we will be moving in two directions within a
three dimensional grid matrix.
direction - 1 = 21
21 * 3 = 63
63 + 1 = 64
reference%(64) = 0
0 * distance = 0
xpos + 0 = 2 or a new xpos of 2
direction - 1 = 21
21 * 3 = 63
63 + 2 = 65
reference%(65) = -1
-1 * distance = -1
ypos + -1 = 1 or a new ypos of 1
direction - 1 = 21
21 * 3 = 63
63 + 3 = 66
reference%(66) = 1
1 * distance = 1
zpos + 1 = 3 or a new zpos of 3
By "stacking" dimensional reference offsets in this way, we may
acquire simple movements among any number of dimensions. I
would invite a fourth dimensional progression on this theme to
be documented and posted to FidoNews by the readers interested
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to see if an elegant solution can be developed to create the
array. Anyone interested might look into providing a matrix
rather than an array.
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A drawing using "Prodesign (c)" is available upon request which
shows a cube with alphabetical references for the grid points
and the three-dimensional reference values neatly plotted out.
You may FileRequest the drawing CUBE.PD1 from Astro-Net,
(103/503), (714)-662-2294, if you have Prodesign (c). If you
would like a file containing plotter commands which can be
dumped to a plotter, send network mail to 103/503.3 Fredric
Rice describing the plotter you have available and I will put
it into the format you require in a file name WHICH YOU MUST
CHOOSE. It will be made FileRequestable within a week of your
request to you will need to call back one week later. If you
wish, you may request a graphics printer format as well though
the resolution will obviously be degraded.
Fredric L. Rice
(15/Apr/88)
FidoNet (103/503.3)
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NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
16 May 1988
Digital Equipment Corporations Users Society Spring Symposium.
Will be held May 16-May 20 in Cincinnati, OH.
25 Jun 1988
EuroCon II starts in Tiel, Holland. Sponsored by the Dutch
Hobby Computer Club. Will run for 2 days. Contact Hans
Lichthelm at 2:2/999 for information.
16 Jul 1988
A new areacode, 508, will form in eastern Massachusetts and
will be effective on this date. The new area code will be
formed from the current areacode 617. Greater Boston will
remain areacode 617 while the rest of eastern Massachusetts
will form the new areacode 508.
25 Aug 1988
Start of the Fifth International FidoNet Conference, to be
held at the Drawbridge Inn in Cincinnati, OH. Contact Tim
Sullivan at 108/62 for more information. This is FidoNet's big
annual get-together, and is your chance to meet all the people
you've been talking with all this time. We're hoping to see
you there!
24 Aug 1989
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
If you have something which you would like to see on this
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
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COMMITTEE REPORTS
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I.E.E.E. L.I. BBS
1:107/211
New Discounts for IFNA Members
The following two items are available to registered members of
IFNA (or the IEEE) at substantial discounts:
1. The Touchbase Systems WorldPort 2400 Portable Modem
This modem comes with both an AC adapter and a 9-volt battery
which will power it for approximately six hours. Roughly the
size of a package of cigarettes, this engineering marvel
supports the extended Hayes AT command set and is compatible
with Bell 103/212A and CCITT V.21/V.22/V.22bis. It has a
built in speaker, four call monitoring LEDs, special acoustic
coupler adapter cable, 25-pin female DB-25 connector, and a
standard RJ-11C modular connector telephone line interface.
It has substituted for a Hayes 2400 on this BBS with no
changes or problems. Bundled in this offer is CARBON COPY
PLUS version 4.0 which provides both a terminal emulator
program and a Remote PC Operation capabilty in the same
package. GREAT for lap-tops!
List price for this modem is $395 (CARBON COPY lists for $195
alone). Both are available to IFNA members for $216 plus any
applicable taxes and shipping charge.
2. The CAT Image Scanner Model SI
This scanner package was a hit at the recent Computer
Graphics Show in New York City. It attaches to your printer
and is driven by the print mechanism to capture 50 to 300 dpi
images in either Line Art or Half-tone modes. Scanned images
can be cropped, scaled, printed, or combined to make posters,
T-shirts, or viewgraphs. Captured images can be converted
into PCX, TIFF or PFF print formats for use by various
graphic packages or you can do your own desktop publishing
with any word processor package. Listing for $195, this item
is available to IFNA members for $126, plus shipping/taxes.
Printers supported: Panasonic KX-P1080, 1091, 1092
Epson MX 80/100, RX 80/100, JX 80, FX 80/100, FX 85/182
FX 86/286, Fx 86e/286e, EX 800/100, LQ 800/1000
For more information on these items see pages 52 and 317 of the
April 26, 1988 edition of PC magazine (the one that reviews 9600
baud modems) or send a msg with your voice phone number and
address to 1:107/211. Supplies are limited, so don't delay!
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THE TREASURER'S REPORT Part II?
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A few of you may recognize my name, with its trailing initials,
as that of the treasurer of International Fidonet Association,
Inc. (IFNA), but today I write as Leonard Mednick, JAS (Just
Another Sysop)! Right now I'm reminded of an experience I had
when I was in the third grade of elementary school.
THUMP! THUMP! THUMP!
Things were moving just a tad too slowly for me that day. The
teacher, whom I dearly adored, just wasn't reaching me at the
moment so I did the most logical thing I could think of, and
that was to bang my head against my desk. THUMP! THUMP!
THUMP! <pause> THUMP! THUMP! THUMP!
"Leonard," my beloved teacher announced, "Did you ever notice
that the emptiest heads make the loudest noise?"
Everyone in class focused on me. There were giggles and there
was laughter. How I loathed my school chums. How I disliked my
former academic paramour for heaping me with this shame and
ridicule. And how I hated myself, for getting trapped with all
this contempt.
What a lesson I learned from school that day. "Empty heads make
the loudest noise!" And its corollary, "Engage brain before
putting mouth in gear!"
ELECTRON THUMPING
Which brings me to the point of this missive. There's been a lot
of ELECTRON THUMPING, lately and it doesn't sound like the result
of brain engagements.
OK. You guys wanted an accounting. And an accounting you got in
the form of a SUMMARY of the accounts for the year ending
12/31/87. Just like every other entity that reports to its
members, stockholders, or THE IRS. How do you expect IFNA or
any other company, etc. to report to EACH of its constituents?
Do you expect a copy of the check register, the general ledger,
and all the other books and workpapers to be UPLOADED to each of
you? Or even published in the FIDONEWS? Be reasonable. The
books are available for inspection AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!
Now I really love Hawaii, where I've lived and raised a family
for the last 27 years. Did you think that I was going to change
my residence to St. Louis or Tennessee while I was treasurer just
so someone could stroll over to my office one day to inspect
those books and papers? What about the next treasurer. If he or
she lives in California, is that going to be any more convenient
to our members in St. Louis or in Tennessee (or even Holland?) I
think not.
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TWO REASONABLE SOLUTIONS
A moment ago I asked you to be reasonable. This is what I mean
by "reasonable." First, be aware that Honolulu is the eleventh
largest city in the U. S. We have offices here that house each
of the "Big Eight" accounting firms. Additionally, there are
about 2,200 CPA's actively making a living performing accounting
services for others. If you can't, or won't make the trip here
to inspect IFNA's books, why not ask YOUR ACCOUNTANT to recommend
one of OUR LOCAL ACCOUNTANTS to inspect the books for you. Give
him/her specific instructions how you would like the accounting
to look like when they are completed as there is NO ONE WAY TO
ACCOUNT for transactions irrespective of what you may think or
have been led to believe.
A second solution would be to ASK to have a copy of ALL THE
RECORDS in the treasurer's possession sent to you or a nominee of
your choice. Be prepared to pay for the reproduction costs of
these records. (You really don't expect IFNA to shoulder this
expense for EVERY MEMBER that does not want or cannot inspect the
books at the treasure's domicile, do you?)
In any case, the two solutions offered are a heck of a lot
cheaper than any court room engagement. And more substantial
than the threats, intimidation, harassment, inuendoes, slurs, and
other slings and arrows our, make that your, directors and
officers had to endure. And your directors and officers are all
UNPAID VOLUNTEERS, to boot!
THUMPERS' ACCOMPLISHMENTS
As a matter of fact, in many cases your officers and directors
weren't ever the THUMPERS' directors. MANY OF THE LOUDEST
THUMPERS ARE NOT MEMBERS OF IFNA. But incredibly they want an
accounting just the same! WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR BASIC CHUTZPAH!
So what have these THUMPERS accomplished. Let me begin . . .
First, they burned out many sysops who tried to put together an
organization whose sole purpose was to BETTER THE POLITICAL,
ECONOMIC, TECHNICAL, AND SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT OF SYSOPING! They
sapped the vitality out of those sysops. They continue to leech
this energy of the remaining board and then complain that IFNA
has no direction, no purpose, no results. My fellow sysops, HOW
IN HELL do you expect your board to function when ELECTRONIC
WOLVES are sniping at your flanks, MERCILESSLY, while at every
turn our fellow directors are being devoured!
Is my metaphor to strong? Too graphic? I think not! How else
to explain the loss of the wonderful guidance and services of
outstanding human beings and humanitarians like Ben Baker, Thom
Henderson, and Bob Hartman to name but three. There are others,
too many for me to remember at 2:30 in the A.M. as I am writing
this. My apologies for not mentioning their names. In their
hearts and OUR MINDS we know who they are.
FidoNews 5-17 Page 15 25 Apr 1988
THUMPERS OF THE WORLD -- WHERE ARE YOU?
Did any of these THUMPERS volunteer to DONATE THEIR SERVICES to
help IFNA go "in the right direction?" I can assure you that all
they had to do was ask and our board would have showered them
with appreciation . . . and work! I know, because even from
someplace AS FAR OFF AS IN HAWAII, I got the thankless job of
whipping your books into a semblance of order so that you could
have the ACCOUNTING WE WERE ALL ENTITLED TO!
No one of us is looking for THANKS. But for CHRISSAKES, no one
of us was looking to be dumped upon, either! Have a little
humanity in your soul.
HOORAY FOR FIDOCON88
By the way, if neither of the solutions I've mentioned earlier
works for you, here's a third. YOUR PRECIOUS BOOKS with their
jots and tittles of IMPORTANT INFORMATION, upon which THE FUTURE
OF ALL MANKIND DEPENDS will be at the FIDOCON88, if you can wait
that long. Would it kill the few BIG THUMPERS among you to wait
until then?
COME BACK GUYS! PLLLEEEASE!
(we'll all be your best friends for life)
And while we're waiting, would it be too much for us to ask,
beseech, and beg Ben, Thom, Bob, and the others to reconsider and
please COME BACK! IFNA NEEDS YOU! So do we all, NEED YOU, NOW!
Only when we all PULL TOGETHER, will we solve the real problems
of our BBS community: Integrated Alternate Nets, Government
Incursions, Electronic Law and Order, and most important, WHERE
HAS ALL THE FUN GONE!
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FidoNews 5-17 Page 16 25 Apr 1988
OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
Ken Kaplan 100/22 Chairman of the Board
Don Daniels 107/210 President
Mark Grennan 147/1 Vice President
Dave Dodell 114/15 Vice President - Technical Coordinator
Tom Marshall 107/524 Secretary
Leonard Mednick 12/1 Treasurer
IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS
DIVISION AT-LARGE
10 Steve Jordan 102/2871 Don Daniels 107/210
11 Bill Allbritten 11/301 Hal DuPrie 101/106
12 Leonard Mednick 12/1 Mark Grennan 147/1
13 Rick Siegel 107/27 Brad Hicks 100/523
14 Ken Kaplan 100/22 Ted Polczyinski 154/5
15 Jim Cannell 128/13 Kurt Reisler 109/74
16 Vince Perriello 141/491 Robert Rudolph 261/628
17 Rob Barker 138/34 Greg Small 148/122
18 Chris Baker 135/14 Bob Swift 140/24
19 Vernon Six 19/0 Larry Wall 15/18
2 Henk Wevers 2:500/1 Gee Wong 107/312
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Membership for the International FidoNet Association
Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
pays a specified annual membership fee. IFNA serves the
international FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to
increase worldwide communications.
Member Name _______________________________ Date _______________
Address _________________________________________________________
City ____________________________________________________________
State ________________________________ Zip _____________________
Country _________________________________________________________
Home Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________
Work Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________
Zone:Net/Node Number ____________________________________________
BBS Name ________________________________________________________
BBS Phone Number ________________________________________________
Baud Rates Supported ____________________________________________
Board Restrictions ______________________________________________
Your Special Interests __________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________
In what areas would you be willing to help in FidoNet? __________
_________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________
Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in
US Funds to:
International FidoNet Association
c/o Leonard Mednick, MBA, CPA
700 Bishop Street, #1014
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813-4112
USA
Thank you for your membership! Your participation will help to
insure the future of FidoNet.
Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
membership in January 1987. The first elected Board of Directors
was filled in August 1987. The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
established on FidoNet to assist the Board. We welcome your
input to this Conference.
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INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
ORDER FORM
Publications
The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido
1:1/10 or other FidoNet compatible systems, or by purchasing
them directly from IFNA. We ask that all our IFNA Committee
Chairmen provide us with the latest versions of each
publication, but we can make no written guarantees.
Hardcopy prices as of October 1, 1986
IFNA Fido BBS listing $15.00 _____
IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs $10.00 _____
IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs $10.00 _____
SUBTOTAL _____
IFNA Member ONLY Special Offers
System Enhancement Associates SEAdog $60.00 _____
SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987
ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member
Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet $100.00 _____
Fido/FidoNet price as of November 1, 1987
ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member
International orders include $10.00 for
surface shipping or $20.00 for air shipping _____
SUBTOTAL _____
HI. Residents add 4.0 % Sales tax _____
TOTAL _____
SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER IN US FUNDS:
International FidoNet Association
c/o Leonard Mednick, MBA, CPA
700 Bishop Street, #1014
Honolulu, HI. 96813-4112
USA
Name________________________________
Zone:Net/Node____:____/____
Company_____________________________
Address_____________________________
City____________________ State____________ Zip_____
Voice Phone_________________________
Signature___________________________
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