Volume 4, Number 39                               12 October 1987
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    |                                 / FIDO \       _//|| _\   /   |
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    Editor in Chief:                                   Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings
    Contributing Editors:                      Dave Lovell, Al Arango

    FidoNews  is  published  weekly  by  the  International   FidoNet
    Association  as  its  official newsletter.  You are encouraged to
    submit articles for publication in FidoNews.  Article  submission
    standards  are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC,  available from
    node 1:1/1.

    Copyright 1987 by  the  International  FidoNet  Association.  All
    rights  reserved.  Duplication  and/or distribution permitted for
    noncommercial purposes only.  For  use  in  other  circumstances,
    please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067.



                            Table of Contents

    1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
       FidoNews Generator is Offline  ............................  1
    2. COLUMNS  ..................................................  2
    3. NOTICES  ..................................................  2
       Special Notice  ...........................................  2
       The Interrupt Stack  ......................................  2
       Latest Software Versions  .................................  3
    4. COMMITTEE REPORTS  ........................................  4
       IFNA Status Report for October, 1987  .....................  4

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                                ARTICLES
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    Thom Henderson
    FidoNews Editor
    Region 13 Coordinator
    Sysop, SEAboard


                      FidoNews Generator is Offline


    The  system  that  creates  FidoNews  every  week  has suffered a
    hardware attack.  We are engaged in major surgery to  revive  it,
    but the prognosis is not good.

    In  other words,  my system died and I have been unable to get it
    up and running reliably.  Plans made long ago call for  my  being
    away  for  the next two weeks,  and I have no time left to get it
    fixed before I leave.  This unfortunate timing of events means:

     1) It will be AT LEAST three weeks  before I can publish another
        issue of FidoNews.

     2) The  files  mentioned  in  last  week's  FidoNews  as   being
        requestable  from  107/6  or  downloadable  from our BBS will
        probably not be available for at least another two weeks.

     3) Nodes in Region 13 may  experience  difficulties  in  getting
        their  node  list updates in,  or in receiving new node lists
        over the next two or three weeks.

    I will endeavor to get the problems fixed  as  soon  as  possible
    upon my return.  Until then, you have my apologies in advance for
    whatever inconveniences may occur.


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    Substitute Editor's note:  Rather than publish absolutely nothing
    for a 3-week period,  Thom has arranged for one of his underlings
    to pinch-hit with this abbreviated edition.

    However,  we don't know yet what we'll do next week.  Maybe it'll
    be "The Best of FIDONEWS."

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                                 COLUMNS
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    (Editor's  Note:   There will be  no columns  published until the
    return of both Thom and his hard drive.)


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                                 NOTICES
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    Many Happy Returns of the Day, Ken!



                           The Interrupt Stack


    16 Oct 1987
       Ken Kaplan's 40th birthday.

    14 Nov 1987
       The First New England Sysop Conference, to be held at the
       Lederle Graduate Research Center, 16th Floor, University of
       Massachusetts, Amherst.  Contact Mort Sternheim at 1:321/109
       for details.

     7 Dec 1987
       Start of the Digital Equipment Users Society meeting in
       Anaheim, CA.  Contact Mark Buda at 1:132/777 for details.

    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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    FidoNews 4-38                Page 3                    5 Oct 1987


                         Latest Software Versions

    BBS Systems            Node List              Other
    & Mailers   Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities   Version

    Dutchie       2.70a*   EditNL          3.3    ARC            5.21
    Fido             12    MakeNL         1.10    ARCmail         1.1*
    Opus          1.03a    Prune          1.40    ConfMail       3.10
    SEAdog         4.10    XlatList       2.84    EchoMail       1.31
    TBBS           2.0M                           MGM             1.1*

    * Recently changed

    Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
    reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
    all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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                            COMMITTEE REPORTS
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    Don Daniels, President
    International FidoNet Association
    FidoNet 1:107/210


                    IFNA Status Report for October 1987


    This is the first of what should be a  monthly status report from
    me to  the membership  of  IFNA.   It is my intention  to publish
    these reports here in FidoNews the  first week of each month from
    now until  the end of  my term in August.   My apologies for this
    report being a week late - this was due to technical difficulties
    experienced with both my machine and the one supporting FidoNews.

    I have requested that  all of the Committee  Chairmen  provide me
    with Status Reports outlining their Progress  for the past month,
    current Problems, and Prognosis for the coming month.   My status
    report to you, which will take the  same general format,  will be
    based on  their  reporting and on  additional  material  from the
    various officers of the Association.


    PROGRESS DURING THIS PERIOD

    General
      Well, we're underway!   We may not have a full head of steam up
      yet, but at least we seem to be moving a bit  -  and much of it
      is in the same general direction for a change!

    Administration and Finance
      We still do not have an official Chairperson for this committee
      so Ken Kaplan continues  as Acting Chairman.   He and Treasurer
      Leonard Mednick  have been in contact and intend to meet in St.
      Louis in order to perform a turnover of responsibilities.

    Board of Directors
      The BoD has formed its own echo and has  discussed a variety of
      concerns.   To date, however,  progress on any one  these items
      has  been stymied by a  lack of structure.   One question  that
      appears to  have been resolved is the question of whether a new
      node in South Africa  should be allowed  to join FidoNet.   The
      consensus  appears to be that,  as FidoNet is  dedicated to the
      free and open exchange of information,  it may prove beneficial
      (even  in some small way)  to admit any node  that  ascribes to
      those precepts.

    FidoNews 4-39                Page 5                   12 Oct 1987



    By-laws and Rules
      The primary  activity of  this commmittee  this month  has just
      been the manning of the committee.

    Executive Committee
      This committee has formed its own Echo and has begun discussion
      on a variety of topics.   No specific decisions  have been made
      to this point, however.

    International Affairs
      This committee  has not "met" as of yet,  although  Henk Wevers
      has provided some assistance to Switzerland which has scheduled
      its first National Sysop Meeting for the first weekend in
      October.

    Membership Services
      Phil Ardussi sent in a very nice report  which I've summarized.
      Committee   organization  included  the  formation   of several
      sub-committees: FidoCon Site Selection (Jim Cannell),  Echolist
      (Gene Coppola), Help Node (David Dodell), New Sysop Help (David
      Bonine),  and  Membership  List  (Norm Henke).    Several other
      projects are under way including requests for proposals for the
      site of the next FidoNet Conference.

    Nominations and Elections
      Dave Dodell informs me  that he has  formed his commmittee  but
      they have tabled any action at this time  as it is too early to
      gear up for the next elections.

    Publications
      No detailed report has been received from this committee.

    Technical Standards
      Ryugen Fisher says that the  following sub-committees have been
      formed (or established liaison) and been manned: New Protocols,
      Documentation, Beta Testing, 9600 Modems, FOSSIL.


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    PRESENT PROBLEMS

    General
      The main problems  with which  we are presently faced appear to
      be of the start-up variety.  For most of us (Techies primarily)
      running  an  organization  is  something  that  does  not  come
      naturally  -  particulary  when you consider  that  most of our
      interaction must be performed via electronic mail.

      To give you just one  example of the effect of geography on our
      endeavors,  consider  the  case of the  eight-member  Executive
      Committee: one each from New Hampshire,  New York,  New Jersey,
      Virginia, Illinois, Oklahoma, California, and Washington.   And
      this group is suppossed to  "meet at least quarterly" according
      to the By-laws.

      "So `meet' electronically!"  you reply.   Well, it appears that
      its not so simple.   Having checked  with our  lawyers, we find
      that there does  not appear to be any state which will  legally
      allow for official business  to be conducted  via an electronic
      medium.   It seems that we're victims of being more progressive
      than the legislative process.   What we are attempting to do to
      resolve this dilemma  is to go ahead  and conduct our  business
      via electronic mail, but augment our actions either with USMail
      signature  cards  or by  meeting at  various  times  where,  in
      person, we can "ratify" the decisions we've made previously.

    Administration and Finance
      One problem Ken reports is that, with the official IFNA address
      and phone number existing in St. Louis, he is still overwhelmed
      at times  with new business.   Changing the  address every year
      with a new administration, however, does not make sense.

    Board of Directors
      The large size of  this group  and its  geographical  disparity
      makes it very difficult for business to be  effectively handled
      in the BoD EchoCon.   Another concern is the resignation of Ben
      Baker as Vice President - Technical Coordinator.

    By-laws and Rules
      Steve indicates that without specific direction from either the
      BoD or Executive Committee, it is difficult for them to proceed
      on fixing some of our organizational problems.

    Executive Committee
      The fact that  there is so much to be done by a  few disjointed
      volunteers has really been brought home in this, the front-line
      committee.  Additional mechanisms are required to structure the
      work in ways that will allow it to be efficiently handled.

    International Affairs
      It goes without saying  that distance here  has a  considerably
      detrimental effect on progress.   We need to establish a really
      effective way of maintaining a responsive  EchoCon  before much
      business can be done by this committee as a whole.

    FidoNews 4-39                Page 7                   12 Oct 1987


    Membership Services
      Some of the volunteers have not been contacted yet.   They will
      be as the sub-committee work get underway.  Phil wonders how to
      get the committee  members together in order to  "get done in a
      couple of hours what it takes in two months of EchoMail."

    Nominations and Elections
      The only problem  that has cropped up so far is the question of
      a conflict of interest in the case of members of this committee
      who wish to seek office in the next election.  Tom Marshall has
      been asked to comment on this.

    Publications
      Brian Hughes  has indicated  to me that he  may be transferred.
      Such concerns  have resulted  in essentially no time  left over
      for this committee.   Brian, although he does not wish to leave
      the committee, may be forced to drop the chaimanship.

    Technical Standards
      There have been a few problems with various assignments of some
      individuals to the sub-committees as some people either did not
      feel  qualified or  lacked required  background or skills for a
      particular  group.   It is hoped that  most of this has been or
      will be resolved.


    PROGNOSIS FOR THE COMING MONTH

    General
      It is hoped that the use of Richard's Rules of Electronic Order
      may provide the  infra-structure that  will help several of the
      committees become more efficient through ECHOMAIL.   Hopefully,
      our present wheel-spinning trying to get underway will decrease
      and we'll see more things getting done next month.

    Administration and Finance
      Leonard is planning to make a stop in St. Louis this month to
      take over much of what Ken does in this area.

    Board of Directors
      If  Richard's Rules of Electronic Order  appear to work  in the
      Executive Committee,  they will be applied to this committee as
      well.

    By-laws and Rules
      Activity in this  committee will mostly be tabled until we have
      a chance to see what works and what doesn't.

    Executive Committee
      It is expected that this committee  will be the guinea pigs for
      Richard's Rules of Electronic Order.   This, or some other form
      of structure, is the primary requirement to resolve so that the
      rest of the work can be more effectively attacked.

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    International Affairs
      No specific plans have been made for this coming month.

    Membership Services

      In addition to ongoing sub-committee work, it is  expected that
      all proposals for the 1988 FidoNet conference  will be received
      during this month.

    Nominations and Elections
      No activities are planned for the coming month.

    Publications
      Brian Hughes is to resolve the chairmanship problem this month.

    Technical Standards
      It is expected that this month will primarily  be involved with
      the  internal  organization and  operation of the  various sub-
      committees.

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           Membership for the International FidoNet Association

    Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
    pays  an  annual  specified  membership  fee.   IFNA  serves  the
    international  FidoNet-compatible  electronic  mail  community to
    increase worldwide communications. **

         Name _________________________________    Date ________
         Address ______________________________
         City & State _________________________
         Country_______________________________
         Phone (Voice) ________________________

         Net/Node Number ______________________
         Board Name____________________________
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    Send your membership form and a check or money order for $25 to:

                  International FidoNet Association
                  P. O. Box 41143
                  St Louis, Missouri 63141
                  USA

    Thank you for your membership!  Your participation will  help  to
    insure the future of FidoNet.

    ** Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
       and  Articles  of  Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
       membership  in  January  1987.  The  first  elected  Board  of
       Directors  was  filled  in  August  1987.  The  IFNA  Echomail
       Conference has been  established  on  FidoNet  to  assist  the
       Board. We welcome your input on this Conference.

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                    INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
                                ORDER FORM

                               Publications

    The IFNA publications can be obtained by  downloading  from  Fido
    1/10  or other FidoNet compatible systems,  or by purchasing them
    directly from IFNA.  We ask that all our IFNA Committee  Chairmen
    provide  us with the latest versions of each publication,  but we
    can make no written guarantees.

    IFNA Fido BBS listing                             $15.00    _____
    IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs                   $10.00    _____
    IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs             $10.00    _____

    Special offers for IFNA members ONLY:

      System Enhancement Associates SEAdog            $60.00    _____
        ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member.

      Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet                    $65.00    _____
        ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member.
        As of November 1,  1987 price will increase to
        $100.  Orders including checks for $65 will be
        returned after October 31, 1987.

                                              SUBTOTAL          _____

              Missouri Residents add 5.725 % Sales tax          _____

    International orders include $5.00 for
           surface shipping or $15.00 for air shipping          _____

                                              TOTAL             _____

       SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER TO:
             IFNA
        P.O. Box 41143
        St. Louis, Missouri 63141  USA


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