Volume 4, Number 23                                  15 June 1987
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    Editor in Chief:                                   Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

    FidoNews  is  published  weekly  by  the  International   FidoNet
    Association  as  its  official newsletter.  You are encouraged to
    submit articles for publication in FidoNews.  Article  submission
    standards  are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC,  available from
    node 1:1/1.

    Copyright 1987 by  the  International  FidoNet  Association.  All
    rights  reserved.  Duplication  and/or distribution permitted for
    noncommercial purposes only.  For  use  in  other  circumstances,
    please contact IFNA.


                         Nine Weeks to FidoCon!

                            Table of Contents

    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
       Is IFNA Stealing FidoNet?  ................................  1
    2. NOTICES  ..................................................  3
       The Interrupt Stack  ......................................  3
       Latest Software Versions  .................................  3
       IFNA Board of Directors Ballot  ...........................  4
       International FidoNet Conference Registration Form  .......  7
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                                EDITORIAL
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                        Is IFNA Stealing FidoNet?

    There's been some talk  about  how  IFNA  is  trying  to  "steal"
    FidoNet,  and even FidoNews for that matter.  Hey, serious stuff!
    Is it true?  And just what is this IFNA thing, anyway?

    FidoNet was originally created by Tom Jennings.  But  managing  a
    network is a hassle, and a far cry from the happy hacking that TJ
    was really into, so he turned it over to Ken Kaplan.  Ken ran the
    net  quite  well  for a long time.  Many of us still remember the
    days  when  the  way  you got a node number was you asked Ken for
    one.  In a similar manner TJ started FidoNews and  published  the
    first  few issues.  But that too turned into a boring drudgery of
    daily details, so he gave it to me and I've run it since.

    So who ran FidoNet?  It looks to me like Ken Kaplan did.  Oh,  he
    had  help.  Ben Baker worked out most of the technical details of
    making it actually operate,  and I  chipped  in  with  my  thumb-
    fingered  assistance  and  loud voice.  Later when we established
    multinet operation we off-loaded a lot of work on a hierarchy  of
    network and regional coordinators,  and we found guys overseas to
    fob work off onto.  But mainly Ken ran it.

    That works fine for a small group,  but it starts to hit problems
    when  you get big enough.  For example,  what if Ken decides he's
    tired of it?  Who takes over?  When the  whole  net  consists  of
    fifty  people  who all know each other it's no big deal.  Someone
    will  step  forward  and do it sooner or later.  But when the net
    has over a thousand sysops most of whom have  never  met,  making
    sure that everything will keep running becomes a major concern.

    Here's another example: Ken's done a fine job so far, but what if
    we  someday  decide  that  he needs to be replaced?  How do we do
    that?   The  FidoNet  Policy  and  Procedures  Guide,  version  3
    (Policy3)  says in effect that Ken Kaplan is the Lord of FidoNet,
    not subject to veto by anyone.  Read the section titled "Problems
    with the International  Coordinator".  It  says  you  have  three
    choices.  Live with it, drop out, or start your own net.  It says
    that because there's no mechanism for replacing the International
    Coordinator.  There never has  been.  Ken  has  always  been  The
    Boss, and we've never had a problem.

    So  for  those  reasons  (among  others)  Ken Kaplan felt that we
    needed some sort of formal organization to be in charge,  and the
    rest  of  We Who Ran Things agreed,  so we set up IFNA.  From day
    one IFNA was created to be the organization  that  runs  FidoNet,
    and that's what it is today.

    Did  IFNA steal FidoNet?  Heck,  no!  The people who were already
    running FidoNet  created  IFNA  to  handle  it.  Did  IFNA  steal
    FidoNews  from the sysops?  Again,  no,  because the sysops never
    owned FidoNews in the first place --  I  did.  Do  I  think  IFNA
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    should own FidoNews?  Take a look at the banner on the title page
    of this issue,  or any issue for over a year,  and I think you'll
    be able to figure out my answer.

    So given that IFNA is running  FidoNet,  is  that  good  or  bad?
    Well,  it kind of depends on what IFNA does with it.  The interim
    board of directors is the same people who  were  running  it  all
    along,  so  for  now  it hardly matters.  We'd do the same things
    whether we called ourselves  IFNA  or  not.  After  August  it'll
    matter,  because the new board of directors will be elected then.
    At that point IFNA will cease to be a tight little oligarchy  and
    will  be (one hopes) representative of its membership.  From then
    on it's up to you.

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                                 NOTICES
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                         The Interrupt Stack


    22 Jun 1987
       Submissions deadline for echolist #103.  All updates should be
       sent to Tomas Kenny at 107/316.

     1 Aug 1987
       Third Annual BBS Picnic in Edison, NJ.  Please register before
       July 10th.  Admission is $7 for adults, $4 for 12 and under,
       free for 5 and under.  Contact Paul Kelley at 107/331 for
       details.

    20 Aug 1987
       Start of the Fourth International FidoNet Conference, to be
       held at the Radisson Mark Plaza Hotel in Alexandria, VA.
       Contact Brian Hughes at 109/634 for more information.  This is
       FidoNet's big annual get-together, and is your chance to meet
       all the people you've been talking with all this time.  We're
       hoping to see you there!

    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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    intent to list all utilities here,  only  those  which  verge  on
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    Bob Morris 141/333
    Chairman, Elections and Nominations Committee

    The next two pages are your Official ballot for the  Election  of
    the  IFNA  Board  of  Directors.  The following are the few rules
    which must prevail in this election:

    1. You must send a legible copy of this  ballot  to  the  address
       listed  on  the  ballot.  It  must  be  signed  and  bear your
       net/node number.

    2. You  may  vote  for  any  one  person  in  your region for the
       position of Regional Director.  This vote is to be cast in the
       LEFT column of the ballot.

    3. You may vote for any eleven people  in  any  regions  for  the
       position  of Director at Large.  These votes are to be cast in
       the RIGHT column of the ballot.

    4. Voting will continue until the  end  of  registration  at  the
       Conference  in  August.  The  results  will be read during the
       opening of the business  meeting  on  the  first  day  of  the
       conference.

    5. Write-in Votes will be accepted and are requested during  this
       election.



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                         IFNA Board Of Directors
                                  Ballot

                             Regional         At Large
    Region 10:
        Steve Jordan         _________        ________


    Region 11:
        Ryugen Fisher        _________        ________
        Theodore Polczynski  _________        ________


    Region 12:


    Region 13:
        Don Daniels          _________        ________
        John Penberthy       _________        ________
        Thom Henderson       _________        ________
        Gee Wong             _________        ________
        Brian Hughes         _________        ________


    Region 14:
        Ben Baker            _________        ________
        Ken Kaplan           _________        ________
        Brad Hicks           _________        ________


    Region 15:
        David Dodell         _________        ________
        Larry Wall           _________        ________


    Region 16:
        Bob Hartman          _________        ________
        Hal Duprie           _________        ________


    Region 17:
        Rob Barker           _________        ________
        Randy Bush           _________        ________
        Bob Swift            _________        ________


    Region 18:
        Wes Cowley           _________        ________
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    Region 19:
        Mark Grennan         _________        ________
        Wynn Wagner          _________        ________


    Region 2:
        Henk Wevers          _________        ________


    Write-in candidates:
        ___________________  _________        ________
        ___________________  _________        ________





       Name ______________________________  Net/Node ___________

       Signature______________________________  Date ___________


    Please complete this and mail it to:

             Robert Morris
             IFNA Elections Committee
             210 Church Street
             West Haven, Ct.   06516

    or bring it with you when you come to the conference in August.


    These  ballots  will  be counted by myself since with 200 members
    the charges for a CPA would be very high.  Hard  copies  will  be
    made  available  to  anyone wishing to insure that their vote was
    included.

                              Thank You

                              Bob Morris
                              Elections and Nominations Committee

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                        OFFICIAL REGISTRATION FORM
                 FOURTH INTERNATIONAL FIDONET CONFERENCE
                        RADISSON MARK PLAZA HOTEL
                             ALEXANDRIA, VA.
                           AUGUST 20 - 23, 1987

        Name _________________________________     Date _____________
        Address ______________________________
        City & State _________________________
        Phone (Voice) ________________________
        Net/Node Number ______________________
        Phone (Data) _________________________

        Number in Your Party _________________
        Staying at the Radisson? _____________
        Number of Rooms? _____________________
        Arrival Date? ________________________
        Departure Date? ______________________

    Registration Fees:                         How Many        Total

        Full Conference        $60.00 each     ________    $________
        Late registration      $10.00 each     ________    $________
             (after Aug. 1)

        Friday Night Banquet   $30.00 each     ________    $________
        Saturday Luncheon      $16.50 each     ________    $________

        Total Amount Included (Registration and Meals)     $________

    IFNA MEMBERS ONLY:
        How many in your party will
        be attending the Sunday morning
        Board of Directors meeting?            ________

    Send your registration form and a check or money order to:

                 Fourth International FidoNet Conference
                212 E. Capitol St., Washington, D.C. 20003
              Attn: Brian H. Hughes -- voice: (202) 543-4200

    This registration form does not include hotel  accomodations.  If
    you wish to stay at the Radisson Mark Plaza Hotel, please contact
    them  directly  and  mention you are with the FidoNet Conference.
    Conference  room  rates  are  $80/night  for  single  or   double
    occupancy, and $20/night for an extra cot.

                        Radisson Mark Plaza Hotel
                5000 Seminary Rd., Alexandria, Va.  22311
                              1-800-228-9822

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