Volume 3, Number 38                                6 October 1986
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    Editor in Chief:                                   Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

    FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International  FidoNet
    Association,  and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
    You  are  encouraged  to  submit  articles  for  publication   in
    FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
    ARTSPEC.DOC,  available from  node  1/1.

    Copyright (C) 1986,  by the  International  FidoNet  Association.
    All  rights  reserved.  Duplication and/or distribution permitted
    for noncommercial purposes only.  For use in other circumstances,
    please contact IFNA.

    The   contents  of  the  articles  contained  here  are  not  our
    responsibility,   nor  do  we  necessarily   agree   with   them.
    Everything here is subject to debate.




                            Table of Contents

    1. ARTICLES
       GOOD NEWS FOR FIDO SYSOPS & USERS !!!
       At last, FrontDoor FIDO Interface!
       Curbing Shareware Vendor Abuses [Welch]
       Dealing with Seagate
       A Proposal for the Funding of IFNA
    2. COLUMNS
       Data Files to dBASE Files
       A request for files
    3. WANTED
       Device Driver needed
    4. FOR SALE
       DataCare Hard Disk Utility
       Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
       The Structured Programming Language for PC/MS DOS Dennis Baer
    5. NOTICES
       The Interrupt Stack


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                         Columbia, MD  21044
                          >> Fido 109/640 <<
                          (301) - 964 - 8088

        Hello there fellow sysops and users! I guess you are
    wondering what this article is REALLY all about. Well my
    company, Logical Technologies (LT), has established a fido BBS
    in Columbia, MD. There are MANY purposes to our bulletin board.
    These "purposes" are listed below in an outline format.

         1 - To allow the FREE exchange of information and public
             domain software.

         2 - To allow LT to recieve orders for computer products via
             an ol-line user.

         3 - To give Fido Sysops & Sysops to be a place to get:
             a - Fido utilities
             b - The Latest version of Fido (all formats)
             c - All the Newsletters On-line to D/L


        Please Note that this bulletin board system does have many
    features other that just ordewring product. Now I'm sure you are
    all asking... "Why Should I Buy From You???". The Answers are
    sort of simple but complex too.

         1 - All Purchases By A Fido Sysop or Fido Users Ends up in
             a $5.00 or 2% (whichever is greater) to IFNA.

         2 - There Are Monthly specials to Fido Users & Sysops.
             THESE ARE ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BBS!!!

         3 - NOTE: Fido Sysops are MAY be entitled to a Greater
                   Discount. Please Call To See If You Qualify!!

         4 - All Of OUR Products Are Guarenteed For A period of
             1 year or MORE. NO QUSTIONS ASKED To Fido Sysops &
             Users.

         5 - All Shipments are shipped Fedral Express!!!
             (Shipments Leave Our Warehouse withing 5 working days)


         How Does All This Sound To You? Good? Great? Incredible?
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         If Any Of There Above answers is YES then call TODAY!!!

         Now Comes The REAL Tease! Our Normal Price On A FULLY HAYES
    Compatible 2400 Baud Internal Modem Is $349.00. If you Call and
    mention this Article You Will recieve an additional $20.00 off
    your price! That means that the typical Fido user can get a 2400
    Baud HAYES Compatible Modem For $329.00 Complete And with a 1
    year guarrantee. Where can you beat that? If You Can Some where
    else, tell us and If it is a legitimate price we will BEAT it!!!

    So Call Today!!!
                    That's...

                              LOGICAL TECHNOLOGIES
                                  Fido 109/640

                                 (301)-964-8088

    Written By: Brian Walsh
                109/640


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    Butch Walker
    161/1 /2 /4



                      Echomail Coordinators

        As you may have heard, several of us met in Chicago to
    discuss ways to improve Echomail topology, decrease the amount of
    time to move Echomail around the country, and to lay some ground
    rules for Echo Conferences. Now we need your help. In order for
    the Echomail Regional Coordinators to provide the needed help, we
    need to know which nodes carry certain conferences.

         Would all of you carrying ANY Echomail conferences please
    send a list of the Conferences that you carry to your Echomail
    Regional Coordinator. Please name the file NET-NODE.ECH, as in
    161-4.ECH. This will help us assist new boards in finding a
    logical link up point to all the Conferences out there.

         The following are the current Echo Reg. Coordinators:

         Region 10 - Butch Walker     161/1 or 161/4:XP
         Region 11 - Mike Bader       120/17:XP
         Region 12 - None Yet
         Region 13 - Gee Wong         107/312:XP
         Region 14 - Alex Hartley     100/500:XP
         Region 15 - David Dodell     114/15:XP
         Region 16 - Bob Hartman      132/101:XP
         Region 17 - Randy Bush       122/6:XP
         Region 18 - Wes Cowley       137/19:XP
         Region 19 - Jon Sabol        124/210:XP

         Also, thanks again to Thom Henderson, Gee Wong, Bob Hartman,
    Don Walker, Mike Bader, Phil Ardussi, and Jon Sabol for going to
    the trouble and expense of flying into Chicago for a one day
    meeting. I have published one brief report on the proceedings, the
    minutes are in the works, and when they are done we will be
    releasing a comprehensive report of what went on. Film at 11:00.


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    By Joaquim Homrighausen
    Sysop at Future Hacker Central 501/4609
    September 24th, 1986 at 10:25 pm.

    A couple of weeks ago I just ran into a problem with
    my own FIDO. It was a user who couldn't figure out
    that he had to press RETURN or SPACE a couple of times
    to make FIDO start. So I decided to write this GREAT
    utility. The first thing I did was to call my friend
    Peter Stewart and tell him about this thing we're gonna
    write. He said "No problem, sounds like a piece of cake".

    Done, we started writing this utility last Saturday. And
    now it's ready...what is ready?! FrontDoor v1.0. This is
    a program that you put before FIDO to make FIDO start all
    by itself without any stupid RETURNS or SPACES. What it
    actually does is that it will sit and wait until one of
    two things happens: 1) An event is detected within the
    next 10 minutes. 2) A incoming call at XXXX baud rate is
    detected. If an event is scheduled, FD will exit w/ an
    errorlevel (trapable in a .BAT file) so FIDO will just
    load and wait until the event time comes.  If on the other
    hand a incoming call is detected, FD will exit w/ an
    errorlevel depending on the baud rate, telling the user
    that he's connected and the go and get FIDO!

    The program requires a TRULY Hayes compatible modem such
    as the Miracle Tech WS3000 (w/ our modified EPROM in it!)
    and we do not intend to support any other standard.

    It's really a great thing because the screen has got three
    windows in FD. One for all the "program messages" such as
    "Scheduled event in 10 minutes, getting FIDO...", one for
    the modem's response such as "OK" and other stupid messages
    that the modem might send. And finally one for the "action"
    that's happening. It's failsafe even w/ multitasking
    programs. The sysop has got two options, COM1 and COM2.
    Future versions may also support COM3. So all you sysops out
    there: Give me a mail, and I'll send it to ya! So far, it is
    only available from the Swedish Net (501), but I'll start
    uploading it to the US net to...the program was written by
    Peter Stewart (thanks Peter) and me (Happy Birthday to me on
    the 25th of Sep!).


                  "Let's keep FIDO running..."

     Regards / Joaquim Homrighausen, Future Hacker Central FIDO




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    From:  Mark J. Welch, Fido 161/459 [WelchNet, Berkeley, CA]


                   Curbing Shareware Vendor Abuses


      [I've tracked down a bit more information about letters
      being sent by PC-SIG to other vendors, as well as
      additional information, and I am somewhat (!) upset at the
      firm. For background, see FidoNews #336, 22 Sept 1986, p.
      8-9.]


    Shareware authors may recall that in its early days, PC-SIG
    didn't take much care in compiling its library of public-
    domain and Shareware titles. For a while, it seemed as if
    they'd cleaned up their act, but I'm beginning to believe
    that they are now taking many actions that are having very
    serious adverse effects on Shareware authors.

    The first action brought to my attention was the letter sent
    out by PC-SIG to vendors whom it believed were improperly
    using its name and disk numbering scheme. Yes, folks, PC-SIG,
    after selling its printed directory through bookstores and
    allowing other vendors and user groups to use its numbering
    scheme for several years, now says it will sue anyone who
    uses the same numbering scheme or, apparently, mentions their
    name in any way (other than in a disclaimer).

    I have no problem with PC-SIG's interest in protecting its
    name. (PC-SIG stands for PC Software Interest Group, but
    unlike other SIGs in the computer world, PC-SIG is not a user
    group: it is a private, for-profit company whose only
    business is duplicating and selling public domain and
    shareware programs.) However, their method of doing so is at
    best misleading, and at worst deliberately calculated to
    damage the rights of shareware authors.

    In a nine-page threatening letter sent by PC-SIG to several
    vendors, PC-SIG's attorney (Thomas Caudill, 408-298-4844)
    makes a number of statements that by themselves threaten
    shareware authors' copyright and trademark rights:

    I.   Three times in the letter, Caudill claims that all of
         the programs in the PC-SIG library are in the public
         domain. Nowhere in the letter is there any
         acknowledgement that most of the programs' authors
         retain copyright ownership. This sort of claim, if
         repeated, has the effect of diluting Shareware authors'
         rights.

    II.  Three times in the letter, PC-SIG claims copyright
         ownership of all the disk in the library. In the context
         of the letter, the claim seems to be that PC-SIG owns
         all rights to these disks and programs, or simply that
         PC-SIG owns the copyright to each program in the
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         library, including mine. However, I presume that they
         are simply claiming that they can copyright the
         arrangment of multiple programs combined on a disk
         (i.e., a "printer utility" disk). The overbroad claim in
         the letter, however, seems to order the recipient to
         stop distributing the programs, not just the programs in
         the same order PC-SIG puts them.

    III. PC-SIG also claims, in the letter, that the recipient
         cannot use the same disk names and titles as PC-SIG, as
         the disk names are copyrights (trademarks?) of PC-SIG.
         This claim is absurd: I own the trademark right to the
         names "GAGS" and "Generic Adventure Game System." I
         believe other shareware authors own their programs'
         titles as well.

    IV.  The letter also implies that the program authors somehow
         work for or with PC-SIG; this is unnerving not just
         because I allow many vendors, user groups and BBSs to
         distribute GAGS, but because it implies an affiliation
         that may lead buyers to assume that PC-SIG has paid the
         authors for the programs somehow, thus reducing the
         likelihood of anyone ever sending me money. (I've
         received many registrations, including some from people
         who bought GAGS from other vendors: no one has ever
         registered after buying GAGS from PC-SIG.)

    V.   In the letter, PC-SIG also claims that it can collect
         the damages provided in the US Copyright Act, which
         implies that they have registered the disks. If so, they
         would be in big trouble, since I have not given them
         permission to register GAGS as a "derivative work." I
         was assured by PC-SIG owner Richard Peterson that the
         firm has not, in fact, registered the disks. (Of course,
         that means that the list of damages is simply a bluff
         that cannot be asked for.)

    VI.  The letter also says that it has filed legal actions
         against other Shareware vendors and that it has obtained
         injunctions against others. (One vendor, National Public
         Domain Software, has sent its own letter out, telling
         its customers that PC-SIG drove it out of business with
         a lawsuit.)


    Now, as I noted above, I can't object to PC-SIG's legitimate
    interest in protecting its name and its directory. However,
    when I read the letter and talked to other Shareware vendors,
    it wasn't clear whether the goal was to protect its rights or
    to drive its competitors out of business. It is using the
    money it has made selling MY SOFTWARE to drive other vendors
    out of business, thus limiting the overall potential of this
    distribution channel. These other vendors, in many cases, are
    individuals who can't afford to hire a lawyer.

    The most offensive fact is that PC-SIG's letter simply
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    tramples on my legal rights. One vendor, who had obtained my
    permission to distribute GAGS, pulled it (and other programs)
    from his library after receiving PC-SIG's overbroad letter.
    It's back in the library, but both that vendor and I lost
    sales as a result of PC-SIG's aggression. If other vendors
    pull my disk or go out of business because of PC-SIG's
    letter, I lose money so that PC-SIG can have a bigger share
    of a smaller marketplace.


    Of course, if this one letter were the only problem with PC-
    SIG, I'd not be so worked up. But GAGS originally made its
    way into the PC-SIG library before I gave permission. I found
    that it was in the library, and decided to give PC-SIG
    permission to distribute the program despite its discourtesy
    (and the fact that its earlier distribution was illegal). I
    gave them permission, and notified them of each update. They
    never sent me anything. PC-SIG completely ignored my update
    notices, instead insisting four months later that I had to
    mail them the update free in order to get the new versions
    into the library. (What a great idea: their cost of goods is
    ZERO. They buy disks for 39 cents and sell them for $6 each,
    with no costs in between.)

    Other authors' programs have found their way into the PC-SIG
    library without permission, and in at least one case was sold
    despite a clear disclaimer in the program stating that for-
    profit vendors like PC-SIG could not distribute it. (This
    latter incident speaks well for PC-SIG's claim that it
    screens every program carefully.)

    And just a few days ago, I discovered that PC-SIG has begun
    selling a CD-ROM version of its library, and included GAGS on
    that disk in direct violation of the permission letter I gave
    them. Again, it never occurred to them to even write me a
    letter asking for a change to my permission letter. To this
    date, I have never received *anything* by mail from PC-SIG,
    not even a catalog.

    Yesterday, at the PC-Faire in San Francisco, I picked up
    their catalog update/newsletter at their huge booth. In the
    catalog comes yet another slap in the face. I expect
    companies like PC-SIG to make a good-faith effort to
    encourage buyers to pay for their disks. Instead, the firm's
    newsletter seems to suggest that Shareware authors make
    megabucks. Direct quote:

       "Q: Do the authors who ask for a donation or contribution
       really make money?  A: The high end of scale for people
       using the Open Software concept to distribute their
       software is $1.5 million to $2.5 million a year. My
       estimate is that the average developer earns about $40,000
       to $50,000 a year per program. Others make less than $500
       a year."

    [I must disagree, Mr. Peterson: the average Shareware author
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    probably sits a lot closer to your $500 figure, and if the
    average author makes $40,000 I'll eat a floppy disk.] The
    effect of such a quote is to make buyers think there's no
    need to pay Shareware authors, since they already do so well.

    The only folks I know who have large grosses are folks like
    Bob Wallace and Jim Button, who also do hard marketing. It
    looks to me as if most of the money being made in Shareware
    is going into PC-SIG's bank account. By itself, that's not
    too upsetting: I decided to distribute GAGS as Shareware,
    knowing that vendors like PC-SIG may make more money than I.
    But I never expected any company to start firing a gun at the
    authors who are necessary to its very existence.

    Another recent discovery for me is that PC-SIG is in the complete
    distribution business now. Not only do they sell disks by mail order
    and at trade shows, but they have "authorized dealers" in the US and
    even overseas.


    I don't know what the result of all of this ought to be. I've
    sent a nasty letter to PC-SIG, asking that a retraction of
    its letter be sent to everyone who received it, and demanding
    that GAGS be removed from the illegal CD-ROM version of the
    PC-SIG library. I am still awaiting their reply.


    >>>>   I'd like to hear from other shareware authors about
           their experiences with companies selling public-domain
           and shareware programs for profit. I'd also like to
           hear from other vendors, and user groups, about their
           feelings about this issue. I'll summarize the response
           in a future issue of FidoNews.


                                    Mark J. Welch
                                    P.O. Box 2409
                                    San Francisco, CA 94126
                                    (415) 845-2430 [Berkeley]
                                    Fido 125/459 [private]
                                    BIX 'mwelch'


    *  "GAGS" and "The Generic Adventure Game System" are
       trademarks of Mark J. Welch. "PC-SIG" is a trademark of the
       PC Software Interest Group, Sunnyvale, CA, 408-730-9291.


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    Robert A. Rudolph
    Fido 109/628


                Seagate disk parts revisited...

    Several weeks ago I wrote a somewhat negative piece for these
    august pages regarding Seagate, small parts for Seagate drives
    and a generally irritated editorial comment about what I think
    of folks who maintain a monopolistic attitude.

    For what it is worth, I never heard from Seagate. Apparently
    nobody at Seagate reads FidoNews.

    But now I know of at least TWO people who read FidoNews. Bob
    Hartmann does (I am sure nobody is surprised).

    So does Brian Walsh, of Logical Technologies in Columbia, MD
    (Fido node 109/640).

    After the article appeared I heard from Brian, who is among
    other things a Seagate distributor. Brian shipped me the parts
    I needed via Federal Express, and refused to bill me even for
    the express charges.

    When I talked to him about the cost, he said that with normal
    discounts the parts (two terminating resistor packs) cost less
    than a dollar and the cost of paperwork to invoice that amount
    was more than the amount was worth.

    I have changed my mind about Seagate; not about dealing with
    them (I STILL won't deal with them directly), but about the
    continued use of their products. I'll buy Seagate again one
    day. From Brian Walsh, at Logical Technologies. Even if Father
    Seagate does not care, Brian Walsh does.


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    Kilgore Trout, 107/7
    FidoNet Study Group

                                A Proposal
                                 for the
                             Funding of IFNA



    This is a proposal for one method of providing basic  funding  to
    the International FidoNet Association (IFNA).  It is assumed that
    the  reader  already  feels  that  providing  funds for IFNA is a
    worthwhile objective.

    In short, this proposal outlines a method whereby IFNA can obtain
    funds by charging dues to its members in  a  fair  and  equitable
    manner.

    Membership  in  IFNA  is determined primarily by ones presence in
    the node list.  Therefore,  I propose that each node be charged a
    small,  fixed  amount for every week that it is in the node list.
    I would suggest a fixed fee of  one  dollar  per  week.  At  this
    level  I  would  estimate that approximately half of the existing
    nodes would drop out, leaving IFNA with total revenues of $25,000
    per year.  With luck,  we would be back  to  our  present  1,000+
    nodes by the middle of 1987, giving revenues of $50,000 per year.

    The  mechanism  to accomplish this can be largely automated.  The
    current MAKENL system would need to be enhanced to make use of an
    accounting database.  The database would contain a credit balance
    for every node,  and MAKENL would deduct the weekly fee from  the
    account  for each node for every week that it is in the node list
    and neither down nor on hold.  If the balance for  a  given  node
    goes  negative,  then  MAKENL  could  remove  that  node from the
    generated node list.  Human  intervention  would  be  reduced  to
    entering credits as dues are recieved,  and entering changes when
    someone changes their node number.



    Bells and Whistles:

    We will need some mechanism to notify sysops when their credit is
    running low.  Either MAKENL or, more probably, a separate utility
    could generate messages with canned text to  remind  sysops  when
    they have 15,  10,  5,  2, 1, and 0 weeks left.  We assume here a
    one week "grace period",  where a sysop is still "in" if he has a
    zero  balance,  and  doesn't  get  dropped until his balance goes
    negative.  This might, in fact, be left as a program parameter to
    allow the grace period to be varied.

    Hosts and hubs are generally (always?)  duplicate  entries.  They
    are  also  involved,  active sysops.  At the very least a host or
    hub should not be required to pay for the alternate node  number.
    We  may  also  wish to make his primary node number free as well.
    This  could  be  accomplished  (albeit  at  some  difficulty)  by
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    comparing phone numbers.

    We  would  not want to start out by hitting everyone at once.  It
    is  also  to  our  advantage  to  spread  out  people's   payment
    schedules.  This  can  be accomplished by giving each node now in
    the system a credit,  randomly chosen between,  say,  20  and  50
    weeks worth.

    While we should have a minimum, it should be very low.  Given the
    example of charging $1/week, we could set the minimum at $5, thus
    allowing  a  new  sysop  to join for a relatively brief period to
    check things out.  We might also  offer  a  discount  for  longer
    signups  (such as $50 per year,  saving $2) in order to encourage
    sysops to sign up for longer periods.



    Objections:

    We long ago stated that we would  continue  to  provide  existing
    services  for free,  and only charge for new services which would
    be optional.  Hence, this proposal,  if pushed by IFNA,  would be
    rightly  seen  as a breach of promise.  Attempting to establish a
    system such as this by fiat  would  be  unethical,  immoral,  and
    (more to the point) would not work.

    The  systems  which choose to drop out rather than pay dues might
    form their own network.  I would imagine  that  the  majority  of
    such  systems would be those which are not actively involved with
    or interested in network mail,  so I regard this  possibility  as
    slight.  Still,  since  it  would  most  probably  result  in the
    destruction of FidoNet, it is one which we must consider.

    Many sysops,  while perhaps not actively objecting,  will fail to
    pay  their dues in time,  and be dropped from the list.  A few of
    these will then pay their dues,  but most  will  not.  This  will
    include sysops who actually agree with our objectives.

    This  will  cause  a  definite  and  drastic  drop in the size of
    FidoNet.  System growth will also be slowed.  If the reaction  is
    bad enough,  we may actually start to loose systems over the long
    haul.  FidoNet may end up condemned to a slow, wasting death.

    One way or another,  a great many people will raise  bloody  hell
    about it.

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                                 COLUMNS
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                               DBASE BASICS
                                    or
                         BEHIND THE BLINKING DOT


    The first question  the  curious  ask  about  Dbase  II  is  "Why
    bother?"  And first acquaintances may be put off by the program's
    silence:  Instead of an inviting menus of choices there  is  only
    the  eternally  blinking  dot.   In  what  will  probably  be  an
    irregular series in our newsletter,  I'll try to take you "behind
    the  Dbase  dot"  to  show some of the power of Dbase II and drop
    some hints that may make it easier to use.

    The blinking dot is really a kind  of  question  mark.  Dbase  is
    waiting  for  you to type in a command telling it what to do (the
    first four letters will do--that's Hint #1).  That means you have
    immediate access an astounding amount of power.  Dbase  lets  you
    use  the  information  in  your files in ways Perfect Filer never
    dreamed  of--but  you  do  have  to  know  what   to   ask   for.
    Fortunately,  the commands are words you'd expect:  LIST, DELETE,
    APPEND, LOCATE, FIND, etc.  The manual is hardly a great one, but
    its tutorials are a decent introduction to these basic commands.

    The  most-asked  question  is  "How can I get the files I already
    have into Dbase II?" It's simple.  Take your Christmas card  list
    as an example;  each entry has a First Name,  Last Name,  Street,
    City, State,  and Zip.  The entire entry is called a RECORD,  and
    each item is called a FIELD.  The first step is to CREATE a Dbase
    file   with   specifications   something   like   this--call   it
    XMASLIST.DBF:

             Field name  Field Type  Field width
             -----------------------------------
             FIRSTNAME - CHARACTERS  10 spaces
             LASTNAME  - CHARACTERS  10 spaces
             STREET    - CHARACTERS  15 spaces
             CITY      - CHARACTERS  10 spaces
             STATE     - CHARACTERS   2 spaces
             ZIP       - CHARACTERS   5 spaces

    To get your list into Dbase II,  you need to make an  ASCII  text
    file of your data.  Let's call it MYFILE.TXT.  The "ASCII" simply
    means  "letters  & numbers only" --no control codes.  Another way
    of saying this is to make a list of  your  data  that  your  word
    processor can read (in the NON-DOCUMENT MODE for Wordstar users).

    Dbase II accepts text data in two forms:

    1) In the first form,  the spacing  is  critical.  To  match  the
       Dbase file above, you'd want a document that looked like this:

             Santa     Claus     Icy Way
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             Sally     Doe       101 2nd Ave.    --->

             12345678901234567890123456789012345

             Toytown   NP01225
             New York  NY10101

             12345678901212345

       (the  numbers  are  for reference only--don't put them in your
       file.)

       Notice that each piece of  information  occupies  exactly  the
       number  of  spaces  specified  in the database,  and there's a
       Carriage Return at  the  end  of  each  record.  Your  present
       database  can  probably  create  a document like this with its
       Report or List function.

    2) In the second method,  spacing is  unimportant,  although  the
       data items can't be longer than specified in the Dbase file or
       they'll  be  chopped  off.  This time the data would look like
       this:

             Santa,Claus,Icy Way,Toytown,NP,01225,
             Sally,Doe,101 2nd Ave,New York,NY,10101,

       Now each piece of information is separated from the next by  a
       comma.  And there's another comma as well as a Carriage Return
       at the end of each line or record.  This form might be easy to
       produce with a word processor.

    To get the data from these forms into the Dbase File,  get to the
    infamous dot prompt.  (I'll let you fill in the appropriate A: or
    B:  depending  on  your  system in these examples.) At the prompt
    enter "USE XMASLIST" which makes  that  file  active.  Then,  for
    form  1,  say  "APPEND  FROM MYFILE.TXT SDF".  SDF means Standard
    Data Format.  For form 2, say "APPEND FROM MYFILE.TXT DELIMITED"-
    -DELIMITED tells Dbase to look  for  comas  between  each  field.
    Dbase II will read your text file and fill the database with your
    information.

    The next question is "Now What?!" The real power of Dbase lies in
    the fact that you can write a sequence of the commands in a file-
    -which  makes  it a programming language.  That's how Dbase II is
    used  for  so  many  business  applications,  custom-tailored  to
    specific  needs.  In  my  own  work,  a  Dbase  program  of these
    commands keeps track of business  contacts,  writes  my  letters,
    keeps track of my appointments, and even dials my phone.

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    Jerry Hindle
    123/6
    Memphis TN


         I am making a request from all authors of Fido clones, support
    programs, and utility programs associated with the running of Fido.

         I am setting up my system to be the "first??" all Fido support
    system in the net. I will be adding files related to the operation of
    or configuration of Fido in all available formats (ie DEC, SANYO,
    etc) and am attempting to set up a file area for utilities, another
    for Fido software, yet another for modem help including made to order
    "fidomdm.bbs" files and last but not least messagebases for use as a
    central information point for suggestions, ideas or what-have-you
    concerning our illustrious dog.

    I have also acquired ALL back issues of FidoNews and have these
    available for d/l along with as many Fido related files as I could
    possibly locate. I have been robbing systems from coast to coast
    amassing these files and would like to invite you to call, look
    around, take what you want and Upload anything you have that I don't
    !
         I am doing this without any consultation with national (although
    I don't think they will mind too awfully much (please Ken, can I ,
    huh, can I PlEEEEEEEASEEEEEE). I would like to try to set up a system
    that anyone can call and find what they need for operating Fido. This
    would end a great amount of confusion as to where to locate any
    utility needed for operation of your system. I mean after all, one
    call does it all, right?

         I will keep the latest versions on-line where possible and ask
    that if you have a later version then mine, upload it. I will be
    assembling a list of the files each week and placing it in area 1
    under the name ALLFILES.ARC so that you may call and d/l it, peruse
    it, call back and get what you want.

         Authors......you got something you want distributed...LET ME
    HAVE IT ! You got an update to one of my files. LET ME HAVE IT ! You
    wanna make a suggestion for a new utility, TELL ME. Looking for ideas
    for yet another utility, LOOK HERE FIRST !

         I can't offer much in the way of physical support for INFA and
    what they stand for but I have a computer, a phone line, and the
    desire to help out. And if this will help, GREAT !

    Jerry Hindle
    123/6  123/0
    MemphisNet
    Memphis Tn.

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                                 WANTED
    =================================================================


    Michael Klein
    109/610

       Does anyone out there know of a device driver or other resi-
    dent program that I can use in place of a "CTTY COM1:"?  The
    goal is to have standard output simultaneously redirected to
    both the console AND the modem, thereby making it possible for
    me to see what my users are doing while they're O)utside Fido.
       It's a simple concept, but having little knowledge of
    device drivers and even less of the internal BIOS of my IBM
    XT clone, I'm finding that capturing standard output for re-
    direction to two places at once isn't as easy as I thought.
       Please send replies/suggestions to me at 109/610.  Any help
    in this matter would be GREATLY appreciated.

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                                FOR SALE
    =================================================================

    Ellicott Software
    Fido 109/628

    DataCare, a PC Magazine choice  in its recent review of hard
    disk products, is available at a new low price - $49.95, down
    from $129.95. This is the same product that has been favorably
    reviewed. The price is for a limited time only.

    This product is used by a number of Fido BBS's in net 109, and
    has found favor with many people that are not SYSOPS in the
    Baltimore - DC - Virginia area.

    Three-week trials are available from any user of the product.
    The review can be read in the PC magazine issue that had as its
    emphasis EGA boards. A review has also appeared in FidoNews
    Volume 3 Issue 29, written by the Sysop of Fido 109/628, the
    Reindeer Shed in Reisterstown, who uses and loves the product.

    DataCare is published by:

         Ellicott Software, Inc.
         3777 Plum Hill Court
         Ellicott City, MD   21043

         (301) 465-2690



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          Now available from Micro Consulting Associates!!

    Public Domain collection - 550+ "ARC" archives - 20+ megs of
    software  and  other  goodies,  and  that's "archived" size!
    When unpacked,  you get approximately 28 megabytes worth  of
    all  kinds  of  software,  from  text  editors  to  games to
    unprotection schemes to communications programs,  compilers,
    interpreters,   etc...   Over   66  DS/DD   diskettes!! This
    collection is the result of more than 15 months of intensive
    downloads  from  just about  150  or  more  BBS's  and other
    sources,  all  of  which  have  been  examined, indexed  and
    archived for your convenience.  Starting  a  Bulletin  Board
    System?  Want  to  add  on  to  your  software  base without
    spending thousands of dollars? This is the answer!!!

    To order the library,  send $100 (personal or company check,
    postal money order or company purchase order) to:

                   Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 166/1
                   Post Office Box 4296
                   200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
                   Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296

    Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.

    Note:  No  profit is made from the sale of the Public Domain
    software in this collection.  The price is applied  entirely
    to  the  cost  of  downloading  the  software over the phone
    lines,  running a  BBS  to  receive  file  submissions,  and
    inspecting,   cataloguing,  archiving  and  maintaining  the
    files. Obtaining this software yourself through the use of a
    computer with a modem using commercial  phone  access  would
    cost you much more than what we charge for the service...

    The following format choices are available:

          - IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
          - Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
          - DSBackup
          - Fastback
          - ACS INTRCPT 720k format (Requires a 1.2m floppy
              drive and PC-DOS 3.2)
          - Plain  ol' files (add $50)

    Add  $30  if  you want the library on 1.2 meg AT disks (more
    expensive  disks).   There  are  no  shipping  or   handling
    charges.  California residents add 6% tax.

    For each sale, $10 will go to the FidoNet Administrators.

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    The Structured Programming Language is a SHARE WARE free format
    block structured programming language that runs on MSDOS and
    PCDOS computer systems. It may be obtained by calling a bulletin
    board system at 516 334 8221. Download SPLLIB.ARC at 1200 or 300
    baud. It takes only 20 minutes to download at 1200 baud. It is
    also available from PC BLUE in New York City. If you like the
    software I strongly recommend that you REGISTER and PAY for the
    software because I would like to make an honest living just like
    you do. There is no need to be validated on the bbs to download
    files. For software support call Electronic Digital Computer
    Systems at 516 694 5872. In the near future look for the
    language on net.micro.pc conference on USENET.

    Some major features and advantages of SPL

    o SPL is an alternative to the PASCAL and C languages
    o SPL programs can be run on MACINTOSH,AMIGA,ATARI ST,CP/M
    o The SPL processor will run on MSDOS emulators on MACINTOSH,
      AMIGA,ATARI ST
    o PROCEDURES
    o WHILE loops
    o FOR loops with REAL and INTEGER indicies and increments
    o REPEAT loops
    o Powerful IF THEN ELSE constructs
    o Powerful RANDOM and SEQUENTIAL INPUT/OUTPUT including
      formatted OUTPUT
    o GRAPHICS statements PSET DRAW LINE CIRCLE PRESET SCREEN .....
    o BEGIN END blocks
    o ERROR trapping
    o Statement labels (multiple labels supported)
    o Strong data types INTEGER REAL STRING scalars and arrays
    o Names of variables and labels up to 40 characters upper and
      lower case
    o Supports mathematical functions SIN COS TAN LOG EXP .....
    o STRING functions MID$ LEFT$ RIGHT$ STR$ VAL$ ASC$ .....
    o Your compiled BASIC programs do not become obsolete link
      them together
    o SPL programs run faster than PASCAL programs
    o SPL programs can take advantage of an entire 640k IBM PC
    o The SPL processor will work on an IBM PCjr with 128k and
      1 drive

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                                 NOTICES
    =================================================================

                         The Interrupt Stack


    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.

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