Volume 3, Number 33                              1 September 1986
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    Editor in Chief:                                   Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

    FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International  FidoNet
    Association,  and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
    You  are  encouraged  to  submit  articles  for  publication   in
    FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
    FNEWSART.DOC,  available from  node  1/1.

    Copyright (C) 1986,  by the  International  FidoNet  Association.
    All  rights  reserved.  Duplication and/or distribution permitted
    for noncommercial purposes only.  For use in other circumstances,
    please contact IFNA.

    The   contents  of  the  articles  contained  here  are  not  our
    responsibility,   nor  do  we  necessarily   agree   with   them.
    Everything here is subject to debate.




                            Table of Contents

    1. ARTICLES
       The Condemned  (A Poem)
       Cincinnati Area Bulletin Board
    2. COLUMNS
       Are You Being Ripped Off When You Buy Diskettes?
       Computer Industry Spotlight
    3. WANTED
       Wanted:  IBM PC programs for publication!
       Looking for a Few Good CADs
    4. FOR SALE
       DataCare Hard Disk Utility
       Entertainment Software for your PC!
       Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
    5. NOTICES
       The Interrupt Stack




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    Neal Curtin
    138/14

                             Model 1000 Echo

            Due to the differences between the Model 1000 from Tandy
    and the normal IBM type of machine, I have asked several nodes
    if they were interested in the establishment of a Model 1000
    echo area. So far of the six nodes that I thought might be
    interested, two answered yes right away. One is here in net 138,
    the other is on the East coast. What we have in mind is a free
    area where all can enter the questions and whoever can answer,
    answers. We will be using arcmail for the message transfers and
    will try to keep the traffic out the normal outbound/inbound
    channels. If interested, set up an echo mail area for MOD1000
    and send me a message from it to 138/14.

                               SMART Echo

            A second echo that we have here is for users of the
    SMART Package from Inovative Software. Right now it is a local
    echo but will add others if they will send echomail to me under
    the name of SMART also at 138/14

     * Via Fido 138/38 12 Aug 86  01:20:41

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                              The Condemned


    When the earth was created, the powers above,
    Gave each man a job to work at and love.
    He made Doctors and lawyers and plumbers and then,
    He made carpenters, singers, and confidence men.
    And when each had a job to work as he should,
    He looked them all over and saw it was good.

    He then sat down to rest for a day,
    When a horrible groan chanced to come his way.
    The Lord then looked down and his eyes opened wide,
    For a motley collection of bums stood outside.
    "Oh what can they want?" the creator asked them,
    "Help us," they cried out, "A job for us men".
    "We have no profession," they cried in dismay,
    "And even the jails have turned us away".
    Said the Lord, "I've seen many things without worth,
    But here I find gathered the scum of the earth!"

    The Lord was perplexed then he was mad,
    For all the jobs, there was none to be had.
    Then he spoke aloud in a deep angry tone,
    "Forever and ever ye mongrels shall roam,
    Ye shall freeze in the summer and sweat when it's cold,
    Ye shall work on equipment that's dirty and old,
    Ye shall crawl under raised floors, and there cables lay,
    Ye shall be called out at midnight and work through the day,
    Ye shall work on all holidays, and not make your worth,
    Ye shall be blamed for all downtime that occurs on the earth,
    Ye shall watch all the glory go to software and sales,
    Ye shall be blamed by them both if the system then fails.
    Ye shall be paid nothing out of sorrow and tears,
    Ye shall be forever cursed, and called FIELD ENGINEERS!"

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    Letter to Editor
    Infoworld
    1060 Marsh Road
    Suite C-200
    Menlo Park, California 94025
    CIS 73267,1537

    Dear Editor,

         I read Scott Mace's 8/18/86 'Software Makers Force Pirate
    BBS to Shut Down' regarding a Cincinnati area electronic bulletin
    board carrying 'pirate' software.  It was mentioned in the story
    that this was a 'Fidonet-based board'.

         Having just returned from an International Fido Sysop
    Conference with about 100 Fido Sysop's from the United States,
    Canada, Great Britain and Holland held in Colorado Springs; and
    being the Cincinnati area Fidonet administrator, I was a bit
    disturbed to hear this news.

         I thought I would take this opportunity to try and put the
    Fido name back in its more respectable light, since I now have
    made a few phone calls to check out this story.

         Fido is the name of an electronic bulletin board system
    written by Tom Jennings.  Fido Net is the informal cooperation by
    which over 1,000 Fido systems on 4 continents exchange electronic
    mail with each other every day.  These systems are run entirely
    independently by people that have no business relation with each
    other.

         Since we take this activity rather seriously, we do our best
    to maintain the highest possible standards for the systems and
    people that participate in our network.  'Pirate' boards that
    participate in the spreading of commercial software against the
    copyright restrictions are a definite NO-NO in the Fido Net
    world.  Of course there can always be the one bad apple (no pun
    intended) and it is unfortunate that in this case it blemished
    the Fido Net name.  Coincidentally, in researching your story
    further, I found that the particular Cincinnati area offender
    that you wrote of was not at all a Fido Net based system.
    However, he might have been, so I really can't take credit for
    the fact that he actually was running some bbs software other
    than the Fido software.

         Anyway, as I said, there are over 1,000 Fido Net systems and
    they are spread all over the WORLD.  I can assure you that these
    sysops, that generally go unmentioned, collectively outweigh this
    one joker's bad news with their own good news to the order of a
    giga times better.

         Thank you for letting me use this forum to hopefully help
    the Fido Net image.  If there is any further information that I
    can provide, please feel free to call on me.

    Allen Miller
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    Fido 108/10
    Cincinnati Fido Net Administrator
    CIS 70140,442

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                                 COLUMNS
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             Are You Being Ripped Off When You Buy Diskettes?
                               Mike Guffey

    Almost everyone shops for the best buys in  5.25"  floppy  disks.
    Prices range from under $1 to over $5 per disk,  depending on the
    brand and type (SSDD, DSDD,  DSQD).  It is possible to get around
    one  of  the  big-gest  "fictions"  in computing by buying Single
    Sided Disks for most applications.  Crucial  to  this  method  is
    acquistion  of  a  magnetic  bulk eraser which is used to totally
    blank the disks before formatting.

    Few computer store people or mail order houses will tell you that
    the main (but not  necessarily  the  =only=)  difference  between
    single  and  double sided disks is that DS disks are certified on
    both sides.  All "name-brand" manufacturers' disks have  magnetic
    particles  on  both  sides.  Single-sided  disks  have  only been
    tested on one  side.  And  99%  of  single  sided  disks  can  be
    formatted for DS Double Density and, in most cases, will work for
    DS  QUAD  density  formats.  The  "trick"  is  to  first  use the
    magnetic bulk  eraser  on  each  disk,  format  it,  then  run  a
    commercial  or public domain program to look for and lock out bad
    sectors.  Single sided disks  will  not  always  work  for  "OCT"
    Density applications (i.e.  IBM AT),  but if they have never been
    used in any lesser format,  many premium  brands  are  likely  to
    work.

    Off-brand disks?  Yes,  they may be a bargain,  but they may also
    fail to retain data in storage.  Stay with "name-brands" for this
    trick.

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    William/Eunhee Hunter
    Fido 109/626

                          Computer Industry Spotlight on:

    COMPUTER AUTOMATION, INC. -- This is a multi-divisional,
    multinational manufacturer of a full range of micro- and mini-
    computers, high performance test systems, and distributed data
    processing systems.  The company's three operating divisions are:
    Naked Mini Division, the firm's first and largest activity,
    dedicated to producing the micro- and mini-computers for sale in
    large volume; Industrial Products Division, which develops,
    manufactures, and markets high-performance computer-based
    automatic test equipment; and Commercial Systems Division, which
    produces and markets network processing systems designed for
    transaction-oriented applications requiring interactive
    communications from and between remote locations to large scale
    central  computer facilities.  The company has "abundant" career
    opportunities for electrical engineers and sales associates.  The
    Sales Associate Training Program prepares employees by developing
    a sound technical knowledge of the corporation's products and
    providing training in professional selling skills or advanced
    technical support techniques.  The Engineering Rotational Program
    is designed to give engineers experience in several areas before
    they choose an ultimate assignment.
         Contact:  Charles Pierce, College Relations Representative,
    Computer Automation, Inc., 2181 Dupont Drive, Irvine, CA  92713.

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                                 WANTED
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    Daniel Tobias, Soft Fido, 19/216

                WANTED:  IBM PC PROGRAMS FOR PUBLICATION!

    SOFTDISK, INC., the already-successful publisher of magazines on
    diskette for Apple II and Commodore 64 computers, will produce a
    monthly disk-based publication for the IBM PC.  The first issue
    of this publication, to be named BIG BLUE DISK, and which will be
    contained entirely on a floppy disk, will be shipped to thousands
    of retail outlets in October, including B. Dalton Booksellers and
    Waldenbooks.

                           - - OFF-BROADWAY - -
    If you have written a program for the IBM PC, please consider
    publishing it on BIG BLUE DISK; it's your chance to make some
    money, and get your name in print.  Programs of all categories
    are being accepted.

                           - - YOUR REWARD - -
    We will select the best programs submitted, and publish them on
    issues of BIG BLUE DISK.  If we choose to publish your program,
    we will pay you a minimum of $50, and possibly more-- as much as
    $500, depending on the nature and quality of the program.  This
    money is for the privilege of publishing your program.  You
    retain full rights to it.

                         - - HOW TO SUBMIT IT - -
    Submissions can be sent by FIDONET to node 19/216, or uploaded
    directly to our BBS at (318) 636-4402.  Alternatively, you can
    send them on a floppy disk to:  BIG BLUE DISK, PO BOX 30008,
    SHREVEPORT, LA 71130-0008.

    BIG BLUE DISK is a widely-distributed, carefully-prepared
    publication, so make sure your programs are well-tested and
    debugged, and include adequate instructions within the program.
    Include a note (on paper, in a text file, or in a message to the
    sysop of our BBS) describing what your program does, what files
    are necessary to run it, and what system configuration (hardware
    and software) is required.  Please include the source code to
    all compiled or assembled programs so we can make revisions if
    necessary.  If you have marketed your software as "shareware",
    please remove all requests for money or other advertisements
    from the version you submit for publication; alternatively you
    can contact us for information on other terms for such programs.

                          - - NOTE TO SYSOPS - -
    There is a finder's fee of 10% for you if you submit a program on
    behalf of one of your users and it is published.  Thus, you may
    wish to publicize BIG BLUE DISK and our search for programs.

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    Fidonews                     Page 9                    1 Sep 1986


    Christopher Baker
    Metro-Fire Fido, 135/14


           Searching for CAD (Computer Aided Dispatch) Systems
                        Within the Fire Services


    We are looking for Fire Departments currently using Computer
    Aided Dispatch programs on any type of computer system.

    If your Department is using a CAD system, we would like to hear
    from you about the screen design, the types of data stored and
    retrieved, access times, user interface, computer utilized,
    program language, portability and ease of program alteration,
    and maintenance and reliability factors. We would also like to
    obtain screen print-outs and any other documentation you are
    willing to share.

    This Department is in the process of purchasing a VAX system and
    attendant peripherals and is thinking of developing a CAD system
    in "C". We don't want to reinvent anything, if it can be avoided.

    If you have or have access to any of the above material, send a
    FidoNet message to:
                           Christopher Baker
                           Metro-Fire Fido
                           135/14, 135/0.

    OR by U.S. Mail to:    Christopher Baker
                           Metro-Dade Fire Communications
                           DPCC Rm 151
                           5680 S.W. 87 Avenue
                           Miami, FL  33173.

    Any and all information will be greatly appreciated. Anything we
    develop will be available to other Departments.

    Thanks.


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                                FOR SALE
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    Ellicott Software
    Fido 109/628

    DataCare, a PC Magazine choice  in its recent review of hard
    disk products, is available at a new low price - $49.95, down
    from $129.95. This is the same product that has been favorably
    reviewed. The price is for a limited time only.

    This product is used by a number of Fido BBS's in net 109, and
    has found favor with many people that are not SYSOPS in the
    Baltimore - DC - Virginia area.

    Three-week trials are available from any user of the product.
    The review can be read in the PC magazine issue that had as its
    emphasis EGA boards. A review has been submitted to FidoNews
    for publication, but it is uncertain when it will appear.

    DataCare is published by:

         Ellicott Software, Inc.
         3777 Plum Hill Court
         Ellicott City, MD   21043

         (301) 465-2790


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                 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE FOR YOUR PC!

                         SUPERDOTS!  KALAH!

    Professional quality games include PASCAL source!  From  the
    author of KALAH Version 1.6,  SuperDots,  a variation of the
    popular pencil/paper DOTS game,  has MAGIC  and  HIDDEN  DOT
    options.  KALAH  1.7  is  an African strategy game requiring
    skill to manipulate pegs around a playing board.  Both games
    use the ANSI Escape sequences  provided  with  the  ANSI.SYS
    device driver for the IBM-PC,  or built into the firmware on
    the DEC  Rainbow.  Only  $19.95  each  or  $39.95  for  both
    exciting  games!  Please  specify  version  and disk format.
    These games have been written in standard  TURBO-PASCAL  and
    run on the IBM-PC,  DEC Rainbow 100 (MSDOS and CPM), CPM/80,
    CPM/86,  and PDP-11.  Other disk formats are available,  but
    minor customization may be required.

                            BSS Software
                            P.O. Box 3827
                        Cherry Hill, NJ 08034


    For every order placed,  a donation will be made to the Fido
    coordinators!  Also, if you have a previous version of KALAH
    and send me a donation, a portion of that donation will also
    be sent to the coordinators.  When you place  an  order,  BE
    CERTAIN  TO  MENTION  WHERE  YOU  SAW  THE  AD since it also
    appears in PC Magazine and Digital Review.

    Questions and comments can be sent to:

                     Brian Sietz at  Fido 107/17
                     (609) 429-6630    300/1200/2400 baud

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             Now available from Micro Consulting Associates!!

    Public Domain collection - 550+ "ARC"  archives  -  20+  megs  of
    software  and  other  goodies,  and that's "archived" size!  When
    unpacked,  you get approximately 28 megabytes worth of all  kinds
    of  software,  from text editors to games to unprotection schemes
    to communications programs, compilers, interpreters, etc...  Over
    55 DS/DD diskettes!!

    This collection is the result of more than 15 months of intensive
    downloads  from  just  about 150 or more BBS's and other sources,
    all of which have been examined,  indexed and archived  for  your
    convenience.  Starting  a  Bulletin Board System?  Want to add on
    to your software base without spending thousands of dollars? This
    is the answer!!!

    To order the library,  send  $100  (personal  or  company  check,
    postal money order or company purchase order) to:

                   Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 103/511
                   Post Office Box 4296
                   200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
                   Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296

    Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.

    Note:  No  profit  is  made  from  the  sale of the Public Domain
    software in this collection.  The price is  applied  entirely  to
    the  cost  of  downloading  the  software  over  the phone lines,
    running a  BBS  to  receive  file  submissions,  and  inspecting,
    cataloguing, archiving and maintaining the files.  Obtaining this
    software yourself through the use of  a  computer  with  a  modem
    using  commercial phone access would cost you much more than what
    we charge for the service...

    Please specify what type of format you would like the disks to be
    prepared on.  The following choices are available:
          - IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
          - Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
          - DSBackup
          - Fastback
          - ACS INTRCPT 720k format
          - Plain  ol' files (add $50)

    Add $30 if you want  the  library  on  1.2  meg  AT  disks  (more
    expensive  disks).  There  are  no  shipping or handling charges.
    California residents add 6% tax.

    For each sale, $10 will go to the FidoNet Administrators.

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                                 NOTICES
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    Announcing the return of the "HIP Shack" to Fidonet, now in
    Colorado Springs, CO.  The files and message areas are in
    the process of being reorganized, but Amateur Radio and SWL
    are still the primary themes.  I'm looking forward to
    hearing from everyone I've been out of touch with for the
    last 9 weeks...

    Bdale Garbee, sysop 128/18, 303/593-0766, 1200 baud, 24hrs

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                         The Interrupt Stack


    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.

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