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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL
It Takes All Kinds
2. ARTICLES
Squeeze 720k onto 360k disks on an IBM-PC/AT w/DOS 3.2
A Question of Privacy
Fido Utility Catalog
3. COLUMNS
User Group Presentations
Notes from Abroad
4. WANTED
Fido Looking for File Help
5. FOR SALE
Entertainment Software for your PC!
Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
Special Offer to FidoNet Sysops
6. NOTICES
The Interrupt Stack
CARTOON: Gruesome George, by Bruce White
We get some odd customers in the shareware business.
I don't mean the private individuals who make donations. They're
a blessing. There's nothing quite like being appreciated. I
remember one letter; the guy went on for pages about how he liked
our product, apologizing profusely that he couldn't send any
more.
Some of the companies are a bit off-the-wall, though. Not all,
by any means. Most companies are pretty good about it. Well,
the ones who pay at all are generally pretty good. I gather a
lot of companies simply don't understand shareware yet, but we're
getting there.
But there's that small percentage that kind of makes you wonder.
I got a call just the other day from one of them. It seems his
company was one subsidiary of a large conglomerate, and he wanted
to use our program in his project. His problem was that each of
the subsidiaries is organized as a separate company in a separate
location. For example, he worked for one outfit in New York, but
there's another outfit in California that has a different name
and is organized as a different company, but both are owned by
the same conglomerate. Are you with me so far?
Now, he had heard of our "unlimited site license", and he wanted
to know if we would consider the two companies (along with about
another twenty all over the world) to be one "site".
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines
a site as "The place or plot of land where something was, is, or
is to be located." I would tend to feel that it's pushing things
a bit to consider the entire inhabited surface of the Earth as
ONE plot of land.
I'm sure he felt he was trying to do the right thing. After all,
he could have just used it, and to Hell with us. We're hardly
going to go out and sue twenty companies around the world for a
few hundred bucks apiece. No, he saw his legal and moral
obligations, and wanted to do what was right. He just didn't
want to spend any money on it. I tried to explain to him that
spreading any "normal" commercial package that widely would cost
far more. His attitude was "Well, yes, but..."
What can I say? People like that are ASKING for copy protection.
They have no one to blame but themselves if they get stuck with
it.
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Fidonews Page 3 5 May 1986
Juan E. Jimenez, Micro Consulting Associates
DataFlex Fido / Modem Help West
103/511 - 1/110
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| How to get your IBM-PC/AT running DOS 3.2 to write 720k |
| of data onto a 360k disk using 1.2 meg disk drives... |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
Sanford Zelkovitz, Sysop of Fido 103/506 and president of Alpha
Computer Service, has come up with a way to squeeze 720k into
those 360k disks which you can now get for around $0.69 in
quantity. The solution is in the form of a program he has written
called INTRCPT.COM. The program is memory resident and allows
you to write 720k of data onto a DS/DD diskette using the 1.2 meg
drives.
There are some limitations to the program:
(1) You must be using an IBM-PC/AT
(2) You must be running IBM PC-DOS version 3.2
(3) You must have at least one 1.2 meg drive
The program works in conjunction with a program distributed with
PC-DOS 3.2 called "DRIVER.SYS". Complete instructions are
included in the release ARChive, including full MASM source code.
You can obtain the file from my Fido at 714-675-7106,
300/1200/2400, 24 hrs; or from any other Net 103 Fido in the NET
103 area code.
I have tested the program with Norton's NU, DSBACKUP and a few
other programs, and it works like a champ! The only program that
we know it will NOT work with is DISKCOPY.COM.
As responsible SysOps, we have all, from time to time, had to
delete a message or two for a variety of reasons. How often have
you "killed" a message that made reference to copying or trading
commercial software? Or zapped some feeble-minded user's
profanity-riddled effort at discussing the current debate topic
on your board? All part of the job, right?
Now think back to the last message you performed a bitectomy
on. Was it a PUBLIC notice or a PRIVATE one? Maybe you didn't
even pay attention to that detail. I'm sure no one would dispute
our right to erase a PUBLIC message that falls into the category
of "unacceptable", but what about PRIVATE ones?
Do we have the right to impose our moral or ethical standards
on users that we are offering a service to? A service that we
promote as being PRIVATE. I can't help but make a comparison to
the postal service or voice communications over the same
telephone lines that BBS's utilize. I can almost hear the Civil
Liberties people screaming all the way up here.
If FidoNet is going to be considered a legitimate competitor to
the other E-Mail services that are available, we must ensure that
a high standard of privacy is maintained. The scope of our
responsibility should not include being a censor of private
communications between two citizens. In fact, whether we even
have the right to READ messages flagged as PRIVATE is in doubt in
my mind. I realize that this would be difficult to avoid in our
day to day maintenance of Fido, but it is something to think
about.
There are other implications that should be considered when
dealing with an international network, but I'll leave that for
future dissertations. I believe this is a relevant issue that
deserves some serious thought by all concerned. Any comments or
criticisms are most welcome....after all, we are talking about
Free Speech here.
To assist existing and new Fido sysops in finding programs to
make their task a little easier.
NOTES:
I have not tested all utilities on this list; indeed, I have
obtained only two-thirds of them. I have attempted to list both
the utility name and the filename by which it is commonly
distributed. This format does not allow for multiple authors to
be listed, so I have shown only the first author in such cases.
REVISIONS:
The current list will be kept on the I.T.C. BBS, node 106/2, with
file attach path D:\FIDO\FIDOCATU.ARC. List updates will be done
depending on the quantity of changes; the first update is planned
for May 1, and new editions will be announced in FidoNews.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
Henk Wevers also did a utility catalog; his appeared in a back
issue of Fidonews, and I liked his format so much I adopted it.
Dave Reinsel, Kurt Reisler, and Rich Kaleta who provided me with
my initial set of utilities and helped me get running.
And all those sysops and users who keep on writing utilities for
the Fido system.
CONDENSED LISTING:
Utility Version Date Author Home Fido
-------- ------- ---- ------ ---------
ADDQUOTE Bob Hartman 132/101
ARC 5.12 86/02 S.E.A. 107/7
B 2.3 See BBSSORT
BBSSORT 2.3 85/11 Micro-Help Inc.
BETWEEN 122/0
CDMON 1.1 85/12 Mathew Zilmer 102/1101
CHG2DATE Josey Wales 124/3
COPYX_D 1.2A Robert Grahm 130/439
CRUSH 3.0 85/07 Harold Barker 11/493
DATEFILE 85/10 Wes Cowley 137/19
DAYLIGHT 0.0 85/11 Randy Bush 122/6
DAYNBR 1.0 85/10 Ben Baker 100/76
DIST-KIT
DIST-MIS
DISTRIB 1.00 86/01 J. Brad Hicks 100/523
ECHOMAIL 1.10 86/03 Jeffrey Rush 124/15
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EDIFIDO 1.12 85/11 Bob Klahn 107/50
EDITNL 1.0 86/03 Ben Baker 100/76
ERRORSET Gary Sanborn 106/101
EVENT 2.0 85/12 Ben Baker 100/76
EXTRACT 2.00 Don Daniels 107/211
FASDOC01 86/03 Jim Black 106/106
FASTV01A 86/03 David Reinsel 106/343
FFM 4.2 86/02 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
FFMSRCE 4.2 86/02 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
FIDODISP 1.1 Robert Briggs 15/464
FIDOKFIX 86/04 Richard Hallett
FIDOLIST 2.00 84/12 Alexander Morris 107/22
FIDOMLNK 85/07 Allen Miller 108/10
FIDOMSG Don Daniels 107/211
FIDOMSG2 107/50
FIDOQUES 2.5
FIDOREAD 1.5 86/04 Richard Polunsky 106/2
FIDOSTRT 86/04 David Kaplan 16/387
FIDOUSER 1.0 84/12 Allen Miller 108/10
FIDOUT01
FIDOUTIL 1.0 85/11 David Strickler 101/45
FIDOUTIL 2.0 Michael Wyrick 109/449
FIDOUTIL 1.1 85/06 Robert Briggs 15/464
FIDOXREF (see FILEXREF)
FILEDATE 1.1 85/12 Bob Hartman 132/101
FILELIST 1.4 85/11 John Wulff 109/468
FILER 2.1 85/10 Vincent E. Periello 141/491
FILESBBS 3.4 85/06 David Strickler 101/45
FILESPRN 3.1 Vincent E. Periello 141/491
FILEXREF 1.0 86/04 Bill Becker 16/209
FIXDNLD 16/42
FIXUSER Jim Ryan 1/108
FMA 3.0 86/03 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
FSTAT 1.1 Alfred Anderson 14/61
GUARDDOG 2.0 86/03 Bill Becker 16/209
INDX_BBS 1.21 86/01 Rob Barker 138/34
KILLROBT 2.1 86/02 Stephen Butler 138/3
LISTGEN 1.05.86 86/01 John Warren 103/401
LISTUSER 1.0 86/04 David Kaplan 142/387
LOGFIX
LOGSPLIT Don Daniels 107/211
MAILCALL 1.00 Don Daniels 107/211
MEF 1.0 Wes Cowley 137/19
MESSAGE 86/03 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
MSGEDIT Don Daniels 107/211
MSGMOD 1.1 Mike Elkins 103/201
MSGTOOLS 86/04 Jeffrey Rush 124/15
MYBBSLBL David Reinsel (?)
NEWHOST 107/210
NEWTWIX 106/101
OUTSIDE 1.27 86/02 Don Daniels 107/211
PHILTER 107/16
PIXIE 1.10 86/03 Wes Cowley 137/19
POLECAT 2.1 86/01 124/20
PRGUSERS 1.4 86/04 David Horowitz 107/2
PRIMTIME 1.0 86/03 103/203
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QSCAN 1A 85/04 Kurt Reisler 109/74
READ
READMSG 4.1 86/01 Kurt Reisler 109/483
READMSGS J. Brad Hicks 100/523
READQUES 1.1f Robert Lederman 16/42
REMSYSOP 1.3 86/03 Bernie Lawrence 124/3
RENSYS 85/12 Doug Perkinson 106/102
RENUM 1.5 85/08 Bob Hartman 132/101
RESEND 1.1 85/07 Dan Taylor 10/1201
RESETCOM 106/101
ROBOMAIL 10x
ROBOMAIL 11x 85/09
ROBOT 3.30 85/09 S.E.A. 107/8
ROBOTMV 107/312
ROVERMSG 2.16 86/01 Bob Hartman 132/101
ROVERTWX Oscar Barlow 104/56
SCHED 2.0 Wes Cowley 137/19
SENDLIST 1.0 Ben Baker 100/76
SERVER 1.2 Randy Bush 122/0
SETUSER 1.0 16/209
SHIPUSER 2.2 85/05 David Horowitz 107/2
SHUFFLE 2.00 85/11 Robert Lederman 16/42
SQLOG 1.0 Jack Liebsch 109/468
STALLBAT 85/12 Doug Perkinson 106/102
SYSEDIT 1.0 Eric Ewanco 130/3
SYSLOG 5.2 86/03 David Strickler 101/45
SYSOP
SYSOP 1.62 David Purks 109/603
SYSOP 1.75 David Purks 107/312
SYSOP 2.07 Mark W. Buse
SYSREPT 1.43 Alfred Anderson 14/61
SYSTRA
SYS_XXX 85/01 Tom Jennings 125/1
TESTLIST 1.2 85/10 Ben Baker 100/76
TIDYFILE 1.00 86/04 Jeffrey Rush 124/15
TIMECHNG 85/10 David Reinsel 106/343
TIMELOG 8d Tom Jennings 125/1
TIMEMAP Thom Henderson 107/7
TWIX 3.5 86/02 Ben Baker 100/76
TWIX 85/09 Tom Jennings 125/1
UP-DOWN Robert Briggs 15/464
UPLOG 1.1 Robert Briggs 15/464
USER
USERFILE 1.0 86/02 Allen Miller 108/10
USERLIST 85/12 Allen Miller 108/10
USERLIST 1.0 85/07 Ben Baker 100/76
USERLIST 1.0 Jim Ryan 101/14
USERLOG 106/101
USERS 1.27 85/06 Thom Henderson 107/7
USERSORT 2.01
USERSORT Bill Jungers 11/407
USERSORT 1.22 85/12 Lennart Svensson 501/4602
USORT 1.23 86/03 Steven Linhart 107/313
WAIT 1.0 85/10 Ben Baker 100/76
WAITING 1.5 86/03 Walkbro & Kelleher 10/620
WATCH 1.0 85/12 Wes Cowley 137/19
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WATCHDOG 1.1 84/08 James Reinders
WEEKDAY 1.0 85/11 Ben Baker 100/76
WHATSNEW 1.1 85/11 David Strickler 101/45
WRITEMSG 1.3 Net Systems 115/396
XLATRGEN 1.4 85/12 S.E.A. 107/8
AUTHOR SUMMARY:
Anderson, Alfred SYSREPT
Baker, Ben DAYNBR, EDITNL, EVENT, SENDLIST,
TESTLIST, TWIX, USERLIST, WAIT,
WEEKDAY
Barker, Harold CRUSH
Barker, Rob INDX_BBS
Barlow, Oscar ROVERTWX
Becker, Bill FILEXREF, GUARDDOG
Black, Jim FASDOC01
Briggs, Robert FIDODISP, FIDOUTIL, UP-DOWN, UPLOG
Buse, Mark W. SYSOP
Butler, Stephen KILLROBT
Cowley, Wes DATEFILE, MEF, PIXIE, SCHED, WATCH
Daniels, Don EXTRACT, FIDOMSG, LOGSPLIT,
MAILCALL, MSGEDIT, OUTSIDE
Elkins, Mike MSGMOD
Ewanco, Eric SYSEDIT
Grahm, Robert COPY_X
Hallett, Richard FIDOKFIX
Hartman, Bob ADDQUOTE, FILEDATE, RENUM, ROVERMSG
Henderson, Thom TIMEMAP, USERS
Hicks, J. Brad DISTRIB, READMSGS
Horowitz, David PRGUSERS, SHIPUSER
Jennings, Tom SYS_XXX, TIMELOG, TWIX
Jungers, Bill USERSORT
Kaplan, David LISTUSER, FIDOSTRT
Klahn, Bob EDIFIDO
Lawrence, Bernie REMSYSOP
Lederman, Robert MESSWAIT, READQUES, SHUFFLE
Liebsch, Jack SQLOG
Linhart, Steven USORT
Micro-Help Inc. BBSSORT
Miller, Allen FIDOMLNK, FIDOUSER, USERFILE,
USERLIST
Morris, Alexander FIDOLIST
Net Systems WRITEMSG
Pacific System Group DAYLIGHT, SERVER
Perkinson, Doug RENSYS, STALLBAT
Periello, Vincent E. FILER, FILESPRN
Polunsky, Richard FIDOREAD
Purks, David SYSOP
Reinders, James WATCHDOG
Reinsel, David FASTV01A, TIMECHNG, MYBBSLBL
Reisler, Kurt QSCAN, READMSG
Rush, Jeff ECHOMAIL, MSGTOOLS, TIDYFILE
Ryan, Jim FIXUSER, USERLIST
Sanborn, Gary ERRORSET
Strickler, David FIDOUTIL, FILESBBS, SYSLOG,
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WHATSNEW
Svensson, Lennart USERSORT
Systems Enhancement Assoc. ARC, ROBOT, XLATRGEN
Taylor, Ben RESEND
Wales, Josey CHG2DATE
Walkbro & Kelleher FFM, FMA, MESSAGE, WAITING
Warren, John LISTGEN
Wulff, John FILELIST
Wyrick, Michael FIDOUTIL
Zilmer, Mathew CDMON
Most observers classify computer users into three
generation groups: beginners, intermediates and experts. It's a
little like the school grading system. When you have
successfully mastered grade 1, you may move on to grade 2 and so
on.
There's some justification for this scheme. Obviously, a
user must learn fundamentals before proceeding to more complex
areas. If you don't know how to turn the machine on, you can't
run it. The first stages seem quite clear.
A number of questions arise about such a scheme. Should
the various groups be segregated, so that a beginner may not
participate in "expert" subjects and vice-versa? Should clubs
and user groups promote themselves from beginner clubs to
advanced clubs as members gain experience? And are the lines of
demarcation really that clear?
I can recall being at a TPUG meeting where presentations
were under way. Some presentations are exciting and interesting;
whereas others are ... well, not quite so exciting and
interesting. At the time, a younger member was outlining how to
scratch files. Until just before that time, the poor fellow had
to buy a new disk every time he filled one up; he didn't know how
to remove the files he didn't need any more. To him, the
discovery of the fact that files could be scratched was a
marvellous and novel thing. And perhaps that was true for a few
of the attendees.
I was standing near a clever young man who had written a
good number of programs. "I won't come to any more meeting," he
said. "I know all this stuff and these presentations do nothing
for me."
I didn't know what to reply. Certainly, if he hoped that
every meeting would be on an advanced technical plane, he would
be doomed to disappointment. I wondered: is this the only reason
that members attend meetings? To obtain technical advancement?
Surely there must be other reasons. What about social aspects?
How about swapping notes on the performance of programs and
peripherals? And surely there is pleasure in showing others how
to do something new, even if the information flows only one way.
It seems to me that there will be some members who will
never be satisfied with a program. They want to be entertained
and educated in the same way they would expect if they went to a
movie, theatre or trade school. The fact is that clubs are not
Fidonews Page 11 5 May 1986
made up of professional entertainers; they use volunteer help and
must do the best they can. The same is true of software
distributed by clubs: most is not professional work but is simply
contributed programs written by members.
There is a need to police presentations (and software),
of course. I'm all in favor of the beginner's "show-and-tell"
presentation. There may be information of interest to others, it
may entertain and it will be good for the member to gain
presentation skills. But there's a limit. A member who has used
the sound features of a computer to make the sound of duck
quacking has a good two-minute presentation to make which will
inform and entertain. A half-hour speech on the same subject
would be tiresome to all ... the presenter would be a dead duck.
Magazines, newsletters and clubs often make a simple
mistake. They think that everyone has been around from the
beginning and remembers everything that has happened. Some of us
start late --magazines have new readers, clubs have new members -
- and don't know things that may have gone before. Some of us
forget. The idea that we never need to repeat a simple concept
but can go on to the next one in sequence can be deadly. One of
the great killer phrases in articles and speeches is: "As you
know ..."
That's part of the fallacy of "advanced groups." There's
always something simple and apparently obvious that many of the
group members don't know. There's the programmer who writes nice
graphics animations but who has never discovered that holding
down SHIFT and then pressing RETURN takes you to the next line
without "actioning" the previous line on the screen. There's the
student who joins an advance machine language course who knows
how to write a binary multiplication routine but cannot clear the
computer's screen.
I don't mind users grouping together to study advanced
topics -- I'm all in favor of it -- but I hope that no group gets
the idea that "dumb people can't join in." There are beginners
who would like to listen in just to see if they can catch any of
it, or learn a few good buzzwords with which to impress their
friends. Some may want to go to ask advice; for example, what
would be a good study route to catch up with the more advanced
users?
I have this vision of an expert-level group in which most
of the members might be scared to ask a question. After all, it
might be a DUMB question and then they'd be kicked out of the
group?
Personally, I find that others tell me a great deal that
I don't know. I gasp with astonishment when Mike Todd plugs some
custom hardware into a 4040 disk and displays the contents of a
disk track -- every bit mapped out for inspection. I'm amazed
when I get a phone call from Tulsa asking: "How come typing a
line number of 350800 causes the computer to crash?" And I'm
impressed when random POKEing by an English schoolboy turns up
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the fact that (on the VIC 20 and Commodore 64) POKE 22,35 causes
programs to list without line numbers.
I support the idea of special interest groups -- some of
which have "level" implications. But any club should still
provide a forum for intermingling of users at all levels.
Beginners can ask questions. Experts can show off the knowledge.
People with missions can go after the specific information they
need.
When you can do it, it'b best to appeal to a cross-
section of levels. Even if you're taling about an elementary
concept, you can often dress it up within an interest program.
Sometimes you can demonstrate the concept in an amusing way.
Remember -- computers are fun! If you have a chance to make a
presentation, try to keep the idea of fun in there somewhere.
Copyright (c) 1984 Jim Butterfield. Permission to reprint is
hereby granted, provided this notice is included in the reprinted
material.
I contacted another major UK modem manufacturer since the last
newsletter that firm is called Steebek Systems. If you should
see their adverts for their new "Quattro" modem don't rush out
and buy one. I have had one on test for a couple of weeks now
and it's not much good. It's billed as (Quote) V22bis, V22, V23,
& V21 with auto speed detection and Hayes compatibility. It has
the extended Hayes command set, the one that Tom Jennings gave
such a slagging off in the Hayes 2400. The truth is that it
won't answer at any speed other than 300 (V21) and once connected
it has the annoying (intolerable) habit of dropping the line for
no readily apparent reason. I think it doesn't have enough
filtering on the CD line which causes it to bomb out if there is
any line noise.
It doesn't have speed conversion either (for 1200/75 on IBM) so
thats another problem. I think we have two distinct classes of
modem in the market as potential "Fido Compatible" modems. The
first class I call the "hybrid" smartmodem. The Quattro falls
into this class. I call it "hybrid" because it seems to me that
modems of this type (Case, Racal etc.) are a "pseudo-smartmodem".
I don't think that any so called "smartmodem" should have any
switches on the front panel. The Quattro has six!!! Modems of
this type appear to be a half-hearted attempt to break into the
smartmodem market, they are normally very similar to existing
models and are hoping to capture non-suspecting customers that
"flexibility" means the added confusion of switches to cater for
the customer who hasn't yet adjusted to the "true smartmodem"
concept. I suggest that any so-called smartmodem that has such
attributes should be shunned like the plague. I hope someone can
prove me wrong but I doubt it.
The other class is the true smartmodem, ie: Dataflex, Miracle
Technology WS3000. The manufacturers of these modems are
relatively new to the modem scene and don't have to cater to
existing customers requirements. This type of modem is the one
to go for. They are also the ones set to take over in the
relatively new PC marketplace in Europe. Already this modem has
established itself as the only modem to go for in the USA; as is
the practice in Europe; we are in the same position as the USA
was about three years ago.
The "hybrid" modem will probably continue to be bought by the
ignorant and uninformed but the street wise modem buyer will go
for the latter type every time.
Chico is one of those small cities that is 100+ miles away from
the more cosmopolitan computer user areas. One of the drawbacks
of this is that we don't have anywhere near the access to new
Public Domain programs as a lot of you probably do.
We're looking for Fidos that have rich Atari, Apple, and Tandy
CoCo resources we can tap into somehow. If you feel that the
Fido you are using serves these areas well, will you please do
us a great favor and send a list of files available on your
board and how we can get in touch with you to arrange access to
your favorite Fido or disk trades or Fido Net transfers somehow.
We have a pretty active MS-DOS and CP/M file areas now, although
we'd always be happy to expand, or to send you something.
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FOR SALE
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SUPERDOTS! KALAH!
Professional quality games include PASCAL source! From the
author of KALAH Version 1.6, SuperDots, a variation of the
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These games have been written in standard TURBO-PASCAL and
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CPM/86, and PDP-11. Other disk formats are available, but
minor customization may be required.
BSS Software
P.O. Box 3827
Cherry Hill, NJ 08034
For every order placed, a donation will be made to the Fido
coordinators! Also, if you have a previous version of KALAH
and send me a donation, a portion of that donation will also
be sent to the coordinators. When you place an order, BE
CERTAIN TO MENTION WHERE YOU SAW THE AD since it also
appears in PC Magazine and Digital Review.
Questions and comments can be sent to:
Brian Sietz at Fido 107/17
(609) 429-6630 300/1200/2400 baud
Public Domain collection - 300+ "ARC" archives - 10 megs of
software and other goodies, and that's "archived" size! When
unpacked, you get approximately 17 megabytes worth of all kinds
of software, from text editors to games to unprotection schemes
to communications programs, compilers, interpreters, etc...
This collection is the result of more than 10 months of intensive
downloads from just about 100 or more BBS's and other sources,
all of which have been examined, indexed and archived for your
convenience. Starting a Bulletin Board System? Want to add on
to your software base without spending thousands of dollars? This
is the answer!!!
To order the library, send $100 (personal or company check,
postal money order or company purchase order) to:
Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 103/511
Post Office Box 4296
200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296
Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.
Note: No profit is made from the sale of the Public Domain
software in this collection. The price is applied entirely to
the cost of downloading the software over the phone lines,
running a BBS to receive file submissions, and inspecting,
cataloguing, archiving and maintaining the files. Obtaining this
software yourself through the use of a computer with a modem
using commercial phone access would cost you much more than what
we charge for the service...
Please specify what type of format you would like the disks to be
prepared on. The following choices are available:
IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
DSBackup
Fastback
Plain ol' files (add $50, though, it's a lot of
work and takes more diskettes...)
Add $30 if you want the library on 1.2 meg AT disks (more
expensive disks). There are no shipping or handling charges.
California residents add 6% tax.
For each sale, $10 will go to the FidoNet Administrators.
SEAdog Electronic Mail System
Special Offer for FidoNet Sysops
System Enhancement Associates, the makers of the popular ARC file
archive utility, are proud to announce the release of the SEAdog
electronic mail system.
SEAdog is a PC-based electronic mail system which is fully
FidoNet compatible. In addition to all the functionality of
FidoNet mail, SEAdog adds the following:
o User directory support, for automatic lookup of node numbers
o Return receipts
o Audit trails
o Message forwarding, with or without a retained copy
o Twenty four hour mail reception
o High priority mail for immediate delivery
o The ability to request files and updates of files from other
SEAdog systems.
o No route files needed!
o A full screen user interface that our beta test sites fell in
love with!
SEAdog is NOT a bulletin board system, but it can be used as a
"front end" for Fido (version 11q or later), allowing you to add
the full functionality of SEAdog to your existing system.
SEAdog normally sells for $100/node, but for a limited time only
we are offering SEAdog to registered FidoNet sysops for only $50!
Orders may be placed by sending a check or money order to:
System Enhancement Associates
21 New Street, Wayne NJ 07470
Or by calling (201) 473-5153 (VISA and MasterCard accepted).
BAVUG I
Fido BBS Net 125 Node 625
Data (415) 635-4747
Hours of Operation Pacific Time
Weekdays 6:00 PM til 6:00 AM
Weekends 24 Hours
Sysop: Franz Hirner
BAVUG I is as Fido BBS dedicated to the Victor 9000 Computer
located in Oakland, California. BAVUG has several Victor
specific programs available for download as well as material for
other MS-DOS systems. Also, we are building a reference section
on the Victor 9000 that will be valuable to all Victor users and
programmers.
Allen Morris is presently working on a shareware Disk Processor
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(defragmenter) for the Victor. The first BETA VERSION is running
(well almost). The IBM version is available now.
Next we would like to develop a program similar to MULTIJOB for
the Victor. Any tips or source for such a program for other
machines would be appreciated.
Come on by, but please after 6:00PM Pacific Time if you are
calling on weekdays.
