FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:34           Page 1

       Volume 2, Number 35                          14 October 1985
       +----------------------------------------------------------+
       |                                             _            |
       |                                            /  \          |
       |    - Fidonews -                           /|o- \         |
       |                                          (_|  /_)        |
       |  Fido and Fidonet                         _`@/_ \    _   |
       |    Users  Group                          |     | \   \\  |
       |     Newsletter                           | (*) |  \   )) |
       |                             ______       |__U__| /  \//  |
       |                            / FIDO \       _//|| _\   /   |
       |                           (________)     (_/(_|(____/    |
       |                                                (jm)      |
       +----------------------------------------------------------+

       Publisher:                                          Fido 1/1
       Editor:                                       Thom Henderson
       Review Editor:                                    Andy Foray
       Fido Utility Review Editor:                        Ben Baker
       Regional Bureau Chiefs:    Hosts and coordinators everywhere
       Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                  Tom Jennings

       Fidonews is published weekly by SEAboard, Fido 1/1.  You are
       encouraged  to  submit articles for publication in Fidonews.
       Article submission  standards  are  contained  in  the  file
       FIDONEWS.DOC, available on request from Fido 1/1.

       Disclaimer or don't-blame-us:

       The contents of the articles  contained  here  are  not  our
       responsibility,  nor  do  we  necessarily  agree  with them;
       everything here is subject to debate.  We publish EVERYTHING
       received.





                           ARC?  What's an ARC?

       I don't know if you know it or not, but we're the guys who
       wrote ARC.  I don't mention this to brag or anything.  It's
       just that I've made a few interesting observations that I'd
       like to share with you.

       [The real truth is that I'm stuck for a topic this week.]

       I've been told that everybody who's anybody has ARC by now.
       I hope so, since Ben Baker is using it to compress the node
       list.  Mostly I get told this by people who want me to use
       ARC to compress the newsletter.

       For some strange reason this bothers me.  It was written
       first and foremost as an archive utility, with compression
       being added later.  I guess I just have a problem with the
       idea of a one-file archive.  At least one person told me
       that he used ARC on every single file on his board.  I don't







FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:37           Page 2

       think I could do that.  Among other things, I'd be afraid
       that my users would think I was getting pushy or something.

       I don't think I'd use it on the newsletter anyway.  Partly
       because I don't want to seem pushy, but that's not the only
       reason.  While every Fido sysop might have ARC by now, I
       don't know if every Fido user has it.  Supposedly this thing
       is for users as well.  I suppose Fidonews is really mainly
       for users, since they certainly outnumber the sysops.  I'd
       like to think that they have a good chance of being able to
       read it.

       It's done us some good in a couple of ways, though.  We've
       gotten some good advertising out of it.  I had occasion to
       call a bureau chief for one of the computer trade magazines
       not long ago.  He paused for a few seconds after I announced
       myself, and said, "You guys wrote ARC, didn't you?"  One or
       two of those can make you feel pretty good.  But most of our
       clients (current and potential) don't seem to use bulletin
       boards much, so it doesn't cut much ice with them.

       In truth, we've gotten much more out of it than I ever
       expected.  We've gotten alot of free advertising, which
       might not always help, but certainly doesn't hurt.  And much
       to my surprise, we've even gotten some donations.

       I'm afraid I'm a bit cynical about human nature.  We
       released it because we didn't really think it would sell
       well enough (if it cost money) to pay back the costs of
       marketing it.  We made it "freeware" because that doesn't
       cost any extra.  I personally never thought we'd see a dime
       from it.  When the first check came in, we were astounded.
       We were torn between cashing it, and framing it.  (We
       compromised; we cashed it and framed a Xerox copy of it.)
       So far we're up to about $300, and even have a couple of
       letters asking about site licensing.

       So maybe it will take off yet.  Maybe in a few months checks
       will be pouring in, and we'll be making decent money on the
       thing.  Maybe NASA will invite me to go on a shuttle flight.
       Maybe my partner will be elected President in a write-in
       campaign.  Somehow I doubt it.

       But I hope I'm wrong.  I hope it does work.  Not so much for
       the money (well, the money would be nice too), but because
       I'd like to think that freeware is a viable concept.  I'd
       like to think that a guy with a good idea can succeed on a
       shoestring.  I have very little faith in human nature, but
       I'd really like to be wrong.















FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:39           Page 3

       ============================================================
                                 NEWS
       ============================================================
       Ken Shackelford
       ATL/FIDO1 - Woodstock/Atlanta
       Node 133/1
       (404) 928-1876


                  "Fido BBS Christmas Wish List (Early)"


            Here it is, the first of October, and the leaves have
       just begun their yearly metamorphosis to the colors of Fall.
       At least, that is how it is down here in the South.  Why,
       you may ask, am I submitting my Christmas wish list now?
       Why not wait until a more appropriate season?  Why not wait
       until there is a chill in the air and all of the leaves are
       on the ground, if indeed not snow?  Well, like everything
       else in this world, a "wish list" needs time to develop and
       grow.  As Fido Sysops, we already run perhaps the finest BBS
       software in the land.  But could it be improved?  And
       indeed, SHOULD it be improved?  The answer is a resounding
       YES!  A program that is not improved is yesterday's news and
       tomorrow's relic.  Fido has been constantly improved as we
       have all seen.  It is up now to version 11 now, and there
       have been quite a few improvements over the old version 10.
       But is this the best we can do?  I think not!  The list that
       I am submitting below contains some things that I, as well
       as many Fido users, would like to see become a part of Fido.
       Kind of an "early" Christmas list of sorts.  I'll bet  some
       of the things on MY list are on YOUR list, too!  Let's take
       a moment to compare our notes and see what we have.  Tom, if
       you're listening, you could be our big old Santa Clause and
       make our Christmas dreams come true!!


                                "THE LIST"


        1.  Give the user a choice of what kind of screens he'd
            like to see by adding code to support ANSI graphics.
            Just as RBBS-PC (grrrr...) gives the user a choice of
            screens, so should Fido!  It would be easy!  If the
            user says he wants ANSI graphics, then access a file
            called WELCOME1.ANS, otherwise, access WELCOME1.BBS as
            usual.  Same for all the other panels on the system.
            By setting a binary flag at logon in reply to a
            question, the user could be presented a consistent set
            of graphics or non-graphics screens!

        2.  Give the sysop the ability to have the CHAT bell also
            ring the printer bell.  The chat bell by itself is hard
            to hear unless you happen to be very near the computer.
            I have myself missed many a chat because I could not
            hear the bell.  If you sound the printer horn at the
            same time, then it would be a little easier to hear,







FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:41           Page 4

            and I wouldn't miss near as many users requesting to
            chat with me!  Many times a user will give up using the
            system in frustration because he cannot get the help he
            needs when he needs it the most!

        3.  The ability to configure our systems to support
            specific baud rates.  For example, Fido will now
            support 300, 1200, and 2400 baud (and maybe others that
            I am unaware of).  Some sysops prefer to limit their
            systems to only 1200 baud access, or 1200 and 2400 baud
            access.  This is particularly true within companies.
            Perhaps Tom could assign a set of switches.  For
            example one switch would enable 300 baud, another 1200
            baud, and yet another 2400 baud.  Then, a Sysop could
            decide which baud rates HE wanted to support!

        4.  Automatic baud rate sensing is needed.  Instead of
            having to whack the carriage return or the space bar
            (depending on the modem you have), why not take a
            lesson from the RBBS-PC folks and automatically
            determine how the user is connected?  Shouldn't be that
            difficult.  The method is already available by simply
            studying the latest RBBS source code.  Then we would
            not have to have the new user sit there, connected, and
            not know what he is expected to do.  I personally have
            seen MANY a new BBS user sit there connected to my
            system, unsure of what he is supposed to do, only to
            get frustrated and drop carrier without ever seeing a
            thing of my BBS!

        5.  This wish concerns the Fido Newsletter.  I would like
            to see a Table of Contents, listed on the front page!!
            It would be NICE to be able to find the issue that I
            was interested in WITHOUT having to thumb through every
            single back-issue looking for that ONE article of
            interest.  By creating a TOC on the front page, all I
            or anyone else would have to do is just browse the
            front page!  The ARPANET newsletters are done this way,
            so I think perhaps we should take a lesson and do the
            Fido Newsletters in a similar manner!

        6.  I would like to see a better security system for Fido.
            I can already hear someone out there moaning, but think
            about it a moment.  Users tend to use the same password
            on every system they log onto.  If some turkey finds
            out what your password is on one system, then he has
            access to every other BBS that you visit as well!
            Other than stating policy (that no one reads), there is
            no good way to make sure that passwords are revalidated
            from time to time.  My suggestion would be to put a
            flag in the user file for each user, and after say, 60
            days, warn him at his next logon that he has to change
            his password THAT session, or be locked out of the
            system (or be converted to TWIT access, or something
            along those lines).  This would force users to at least
            periodically change their passwords in an effort keep
            "BBS crashers" at bay.  By not allowing a user to







FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:43           Page 5

            change his password to his "current" password, he would
            be forced to use something different that a crasher
            would have a hard time keeping up with.  Many
            commercial systems (VM, MVS, etc) have this kind of
            security, and it seems to WORK!  There are other checks
            of the new password that could be made (not his first
            or last names, city or state, etc), but this basic
            method would do much to keep our systems secure!  I
            realize that we are NOT talking about main-frames here
            ... these are Personal Computers.  But just take a look
            at most of the BBS's in this country today and compare
            them to, say, 2 years ago.  They are now BRISTLING with
            security (or attempted security) because of what
            "crashers" have been up to!

        7.  Have Fido check for mail ONCE for ALL AREAS when the
            user first log on, rather than when he tries to go into
            a new message area.  Many users have told me this is
            irritating.  They had rather be asked ONCE, and TOLD
            ONCE, rather than have to keep on answering questions.
            Even if this creates a short delay while all the
            message bases are checked, most folks agree that this
            would be more desirable than constantly being quizzed
            about whether or not to check mail.

        8.  A better SYSOP_xxx.EXE program, that when run remotely,
            would give a DECENT display.  The current version
            writes all over the screen when the SysOp is in REMOTE
            mode, and is very difficult to use!

        9.  This one might be considered part of number 8 above.
            Might it be desirable to have a tidier way to access
            the user file while ONLINE (a SysOp command)?  There
            are times when it sure would be NICE to NOT have to
            drop down into DOS and that you COULD maintain the user
            file while logged on normally!



       Well, those are my wishes for now.  I will probably have a
       few others before Christmas, and if I do I will publish them
       here.  I would like to see what kind of wishes the rest of
       you out there have regarding Fido.  As I said, Fido is
       probably the finest BBS software that a Sysop could run.
       Tom Jennings has MUCH to be proud of as Fido's creator.  He
       is a prime example that you CAN teach an old dog new tricks!
       He does in every release!  Maybe he'll be able to teach Fido
       some of the "tricks" that comprise my wish list, and perhaps
       he'll include some of YOUR favorite wishes!


       ------------------------------------------------------------












FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:45           Page 6

       ***********************************************************
       *                                            102/519      *
       *  NODE NAME Contest Update                   SYSOP       *
       *                                        Darlene Faccone  *
       ***********************************************************

       Thanks to all of you who submitted NODE NAME suggestions  to
       my  NAME_MY_NODE  contest.   As of the 9/30/85 deadline,  23
       names had been submitted.

       I have determined five finalists from the list and NOW, it's
       your turn....

       The author of the winning name will be sent a surprise.  You
       have two weeks to VOTE.   The winning name will be announced
       in the October 21 FidoNews.  Stay tuned!!

       NAME_MY_NODE finalists:

       CATS_MEOW               TOP_CAT
       FIRST_LADY              LADIES_ROOM
       WOMANS_TALK

       ------------------------------------------------------------








































FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:46           Page 7


                               I'M TIRED

       Yes, I'm tired.  For several years I've been blaming  it  on
       middle-age,  iron-poor  blood,  lack    of    vitamins,  air
       pollution,  water  pollution,  saccharin, obesity,  dieting,
       under-arm  odor,  yellow  wax build-up, and  a  dozen  other
       maladies  that  make  you  wonder if life  is  really  worth
       living.  But now I find out, tain't that.  I'm tired because
       I'm  overworked.    The  population  of this country is  200
       million.   Eighty-four million are retired.  That leaves 116
       million to do  the  work.    There are 75 million in school,
       which leaves 41 million  to  do  the  work.   Of this total,
       there  are 22 million employed  by  the  government.    That
       leaves 19 million to do the  work.   Four million are in the
       Armed Forces, which leaves 15 million to  do the work.  Take
       from that total the 14,800,000 people who work for State and
       City  Government  and  that  leaves 200,000 to do the  work.
       There are 188,000 in hospitals, so that leaves 12,000 to  do
       the  work.    Now  there are 11,998 people in prisons.  That
       leaves just  two  people  to  do the work.  You and me.  And
       you're sitting there reading this.  No wonder I'm tired.

            Submitted by Rob Rothberg, Sysop of Digital Bitch.

       ------------------------------------------------------------






































FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:47           Page 8

       I've always wanted to be a Sysop, and
       when I found out that Elite Software
       needed someone to run there Fido
       (117/1262) I jumped at the opportunity
       to do it! Well I just Might have jumped
       in over my head. I knew it took alot of
       time and effort but not as much as I'm
       putting in.   What really makes this
       board a hassle though is the fact that
       it is NOT AT MY HOUSE! other words all
       the work I do on it is by over the phone
       lines and the one day aweek I go in to
       work on it.  One of the most common
       questions I get from one user is "how do
       I down load to a c-64?" What I usually
       tell him is that he has to use ascii
       (depending upon what comm program he
       uses of course), then this user comes
       along and uses xmodem to down load a
       file he can't even use if he has a c-64.
       Of course I've had my share of obscene
       messages with a few adressed to me (of
       course). I have reason to believe they
       where left by the ex-sysop who didn't
       know how to run the system and was
       fired, but I have nothing to go with so
       I can't prove it.(sigh) Anyway I've had
       alot of fun running there Fido Call it
       up we've go a 10 meg with alot of util
       programs!
       Mike Ringer
       Fido 1262 Net 117
       (409)-846-4367

       ------------------------------------------------------------





























FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:49           Page 9

       I have to take exception to the comments about setting our
       Fido clocks back to Standard time at the end of the month
       and then not changing them to Daylight time again.

       An accurate date/time stamp is quite an important audit
       trail in keeping track of files. True the user cannot easily
       access the system time, but the sysop sure needs to know
       when things are created. (We are hoping to install a
       concurrent DOS product so as to be able to get double duty
       out of our system, and this would make the date/time even
       more meaningful.

       Rather than have the wrong time for SIX months out of the
       year, why not have the wrong time for one DAY. The FIDO's
       could change their clocks on FRIDAY, before the Saturday AM
       mail schedule, thus accomodating the corporate users
       mentioned in the editorial, and keeping the clocks accurate
       for the rest of the time.

       I would request that the powers that be in St. Louis
       consider such a plan. They would have to decide whether the
       confusion of changing early would be less than the confusion
       of having nodes miss mail time on SUNDAY AM, due to not
       having changed the clocks....

       David Kaplan, SYSOP 16/387






































FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:50           Page 10

       ============================================================
                              COLUMNS
       ============================================================
         A long time ago... on a node far, far away (from PDPvax)

                          XXXXX   XXXXXX   XXXX
                          X    X  X       X    X
                          X    X  XXXXX   X
                          X    X  X       X
                          X    X  X       X    X
                          XXXXX   XXXXXX   XXXX

                      X    X    XX    XXXXX    XXXX
                      X    X   X  X   X    X  X
                      X    X  X    X  X    X   XXXX
                      X XX X  XXXXXX  XXXXX        X
                      XX  XX  X    X  X   X   X    X
                      X    X  X    X  X    X   XXXX


       Still More Adventures of Luke Vaxhacker          Episode n+3

           When  we  last left Luke,  the Milliamp Falcon was being
       pulled down to the open collector of the Imperial Arem  Star
       Workstation.   Dec  Vadic  surveys  the  relic  as  Imperial
       Flunkies search for passengers...

           "LS scan shows no one  aboard,  sir,"  was  the  report.
       Vadic was unconvinced.

           "Send  a fully equipped Ncheck squad on board," he said.
       "I  want  every  inode  checked  out."  He   turned   around
       (secondary channel) and stalked off.

           On board the Milliamp Falcon,  .Luke was puzzled.  "They
       just walked in, looked around and walked off," he said. "Why
       didn't they see us?"

           .Con smiled. "An old munchkin trick", he explained. "See
       that period in front of your name?"

           .Luke spun around, just in time to see the decimal point.
       "Where'd that come from?" he asked.

           "Spare  decimal points lying around from the last time I
       fixed the floating point accelerator," said .Con. "Handy for
       smuggling blocks across file system boundarys,  but I  never
       thought  I'd  have to use them on myself.  They aren't going
       to be fooled for long, though. We'd better figure a way outa
       here."

       -------------------------------------------
       At this point (.) the dialogue tends  to  wedge.  Being  the
       editor  and  in  total control of the situation,  I think it
       would be best  if  we  just  sort  of  gronk  the  next  few
       paragraphs.  For those who care,  our heroes find themselves
       in a terminal  room  of  the  Workstation,  having  thrashed







FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:51           Page 11

       several  Flunkies  to get there.  For the rest of you,  just
       keep banging the rocks together, Guys. --Ed.
       -------------------------------------------

           "Hold on," said Con.  "It says we have  'new  mail'.  Is
       that an error?"

           "%SYS-W-NORMAL,  Normal,  successful  completion,"  said
       PDP-1.  "Doesn't look like it.  I've found the inode for the
       Milliamp Falcon.  It's locked in  kernal  data  space.  I'll
       have to slip in and patch the reference count,  alone..." He
       disappeared through a nearby entry point.

           Meanwhile, RS232 found a serial port and logged in.  His
       bell started ringing loudly.  "He keeps  saying,  'She's  on
       line,  She's  on  line',"  said  3CPU.  "I  believe he means
       Princess LPA0:.  She's being held on one of the  priviledged
       levels."

       ----------------------------------------------------------
       Once again, things get sticky,  and the dialogue suffers the
       most damage. After much handwaving and general flaming, they
       agree  to  rescue her.  They headed for the detention level,
       posing as Flunkies (which is hard for most hackers) claiming
       that they  had  trapped  the  Bookie  executing  an  illegal
       racket.  They  reached  the  block  where  the  Princess was
       locked up and found only two guards in the header. --Ed.
       -------------------------------------------------------

           "Good day, eh?" said the first guard.

           "How's  it  goin',  eh?" said the other.  "Like,  what's
       that, eh?"

           "Process transfer from block 1138, dev 10/9," said Con.

           "Take off,  it is not," said the  first  guard.  "Nobody
       told us about it, and we're not morons, eh?"

           At this point (.), the Bookie started raving wildly, Con
       shouted  "Look  out,  he's  loose!"  and  they  all  started
       blasting PROMs left and right.  The guards started to  catch
       on  and  were  about to issue a general wakeup when the PROM
       blasters were turned on them.

           "Quickly, now," said Con.  "What buffer is she in?  It's
       not going to take long for these..."

           The  intercom  receiver interrupted him,  so he took out
       it's firmware with a short blast.

           "...guys to  figure  out  something  is  goin'  on,"  he
       continued...

       TO BE INTERMINABLE...









FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:53           Page 12

       ============================================================
                             FOR SALE
       ============================================================
       Kevin R. Porter
       Sysop of WayStar Fido at (617)-481-7147 (DATA)

       FOR SALE:  Digital Equipment DF03-AC dual speed (300 or 1200
       baud)  autodialer  MODEM, in excellent condition with all of
       the  original  DEC  documentation.    Software  like    Fido
       BBS/FidoNET,  KERMIT,  XMODEM, POLY-COM, and many others can
       use this modem.   Asking  $200.00  or  best  offer.    Leave
       message  to:  KEVIN PORTER on WayStar Fido (FidoNET #16/0 or
       #101/14) or call (617)-480-6300 (VOICE-days)  or  at  (617)-
       481-3306 (VOICE-evenings)

       FOR SALE:  Infoton I-100 professional CRT TERMINAL  with  25
       line  by  80  column display, dual-intensity, reverse-video,
       direct  screen  access,  speeds  from  110  to  9,600  baud,
       EXCELLENT "Hall-effect" keyboard with full autorepeat on ALL
       keys, asking $250.00 or  best  offer.    Leave  message  to:
       KEVIN  PORTER  on WayStar Fido (FidoNET #16/0 or #101/14) or
       call  (617)-480-6300  (VOICE-days)  or  at    (617)-481-3306
       (VOICE-evenings)









































FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:54           Page 13

       ============================================================
                               WANTED
       ============================================================
       WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE
       (OK..Working anyway)

       I am in need of TRS-80 Model III or IV systems. Preferably
       with drives but not manditory. If you have one or two you'd
       like to part with I can use them. Please send FIDO MAIL to:
       EJ McKernan or SYSOP of node 14/386 or call (data) 316-343-8028
       or (voice) 316-342-6782 (after 6pm evenings central.)
       I really want these systems. Please contact me and let me
       know EXACTLY what you have (condition, model, RAM, ect...)
       and price you want for said machine(s).
       Thanks,
       ej mckernan  sysop Bit Bucket/SanyoNet Headquarters
















































FIDONEWS     --           14 Oct 85  03:02:55           Page 14

       ============================================================
                              NOTICES
       ============================================================
                         Interruptions to Service

       We here at the Fidonews office will be moving soon.  (I sold
       my house and am moving into an apartment.)  Among the
       expected problems is that it may take some time for us to
       get full phone service installed at our new location.  We
       will strive mightily to prevent it, but we may be forced to
       skip an issue or two.  We'll try to give you advance notice
       when the time comes.

       ------------------------------------------------------------

                            The Interrupt Stack


       27 Oct 1985
          2 AM - Change from Daylight Savings Time to Standard
          time.  You should change your system clock before mail
          hour this date.

       27 Nov 1985
          Halley's Comet passes closest to Earth before perihelion.

       24 Jan 1986
          Voyager 2 passes Uranus.

        9 Feb 1986
          Halley's Comet reaches perihelion.

       11 Apr 1986
          Halley's Comet reaches perigee.

       19 May 1986
          Steve Lemke's next birthday.

       24 Aug 1989
          Voyager 2 passes Neptune.





       If you have something which you would like to see on this
       calendar, please send a message to Fido 107/7.