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Our team has been spending a lot of time lately attempting to clarify to clients in the political space how our policies apply to
pitches coming from vendors regarding matching social data to voter files. You'll recall TrendPo using scraped engager
audiences last year to create custom audiences - we suspect many of these companies are doing similar types of scraping,
the largest and most aggressive on the conservative side being Cambridge Analytica (
http://ca-political.org/what-we-do/), a
sketchy (to say the least) data modeling company that has penetrated our market deeply. Because the frequency with which
this is coming up has increased drastically in the past few weeks, we'd like to work with your team to make sure we have
clear channels between our teams. Specifically, we need answers to the following questions:
1. Can we develop template messaging to advise clients on how our policies apply to these types of services? Does this
already exist? (I believe I remember enforcement relying on a few different policies last year).
2. Can you help us investigate what Cambridge specifically is actually doing?
3. One vendor offering beyond Cambridge we're concerned with (given their prominence in the industry) is NationBuilderis
"Social Matching," on which they’ve pitched our clients and their website simply says "Automatically link the emails in your
database to Facebook, Twitter, Linkedln and Klout profiles, and pull in social engagement activity." I'm not sure what that
means, and don't want to inconectly tell folks to avoid it, but it is definitely being conflated in the market with other less
above board services. Can you help clarify what they're actually doing?
Please let us know if you need any more information. Thanks in advance!
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Let's keep this open. and I are going to put something together that is a more business friendly description of what we allow with respect to third
party data collection and use. This will serve as a reminder to get that done.
May 9, 2016 3:08pm
Is there anything else needed here, or are we okay to close out?
May 6, 2016 9:58am
FullContact update: We've received a response from the FullContact team that they've taken the necessary steps from remove FB data from their
product offering: "Please note that new updates to FullContacfs apps reflecting these changes I believe are still pending approval from Apple, but
should be live shortly."
Feb 12, 2016 3:38pm
D| and I spoke with FullContact yesterday. They have agreed to remove any current and stored data obtained from Facebook via our APIs from their
service, and to remove any references to Facebook from their site. They have agreed to do this by February 13th (the deadline decided upon on the
call).
Please let me know if we'd like to host a similar call with For America; I will hold out on outreach until I hear otherwise.
Jan 28, 2016 1 252pm
Great, sent! (TPS 299056219). Will follow up with response.
Jan 21, 2016 1:17pm
Let's do it. Thanks, J^l
Jan 21, 2016 1225pm
Thanks, all! To clarify, I will reach out to of For America (page
https://www. facebook. com/ForAmerica/Tfref^s), as well
as Full Contact (app ID 184998594896953; contact address
[email protected]) and setup separate calls with both. Please confirm and I'll reach
out today!
Jan 21, 2016 1220pm
To clarify, Nation Builder didn't say ForAmerica did anything wrong. Instead, they indicated that ForAmerica was the organization that tipped them off
that Facebook was looking into them. At the same time they apparently terminated any agreements they had with Nation Builder.
Jan 21, 2016 10:38am
Hi C|^^, Thanks for that. Just to circle back to the original context on this thread: the agency for ForAmerica is who actually filed the original complaint
on Nation Builder - sol find it a bit strange (and potentially suspicious) that Nation Builder is now pointing fingers back to ForAmerica :) ForAmerica's
agency was concerned Nation Builder was pitching violating products. At any rate, if you would like the individual who used to work on the ForAmerica
account at the agency who complained originally - it is <*■ |^^|^
[email protected]. Please note he no longer works on
this business as ForAmerica has taken it in house. That said, I think if you are investigating the full scope of violations, is a fine place to start even
if not officially associated with ForAmerica. On the other hand, this is the ForAmerica digital director ^^^^^|@foramerica.org. Please note we have
no working relationship with him, as we do all their support via their agency.
Jan 21, 2016 9:51am
Hi Jfj - Yes, let's set up separate calls. Let me know if you need my help or if you can handle that for us. Thank you in advance!
Everyone - Full Contact is a service provider used by Nation Builder. Full Contact is in violation of our data policies. ForAmerica was brought up by
Nation Builder. For America is no longer a client of Nation Builder, and it was For America who told Nation Builder we were going to be contacting
them.
Jan 15, 2016 2:13pm
Only has context on this as she hosted the call with NationBuilder while I was out.
Jan 15, 2016 12:57pm
Hi All, just wanted to echo - can you tell us how ForAmerica got brought into the conversation most recently, and what specifically you'll
be approaching them about? We can help point you to the right person to talk to over there depending on what you'll be asking them about.
Jan 15, 2016 9:26am
Thanks forthe update C|, and for leading the call! Following up now that I'm back from PTO- would you like me to investigate and set up calls with Full
Contact and the page owners of For America? (Let me know if you'd like me to set up a short sync for us to catch up on this).
Jan 14, 2016 10:51pm
Great, thanks for talking with them.
Question: did Nation Builder point to Full Contact? Or how did that get surfaced?
Also how was ForAmerica broached in that conversation (or are you mentioning them based on our previous internal conversations?)
Jan 8, 2016 3:51pm
Just finished the call with NationBuilder. They are going to make a few changes but ultimately I didn't surface major policy issues with their service.
From this conversation we need to broaden the investigation to another company called Full Contact, and I'd also like to set up a call with the page
owner(s) of For America.
Jan 8, 2016 3:46pm
I just received a response from ll| who put me in contact with the correct representative from the company (Kt^^m); I've asked Khj^^ for his
availability for this week and will schedule the call with C^^|as soon as I receive a response.
Jan 5, 2016 3:57pm
My team is not in contact, and I assume you are still the owner on the DevOps side, so perhaps reply asking II J who has a call with, as it
may be in regards to a separate matter. Happy new year!
Jan 4, 2016 11:22am
Update: I hadn't received an email from II Joverthe holidays so sent him a follow-up email, and just received the following response:
My understanding is that your team has a call scheduled with Ll^l
from our Product Team, who I think is better equipped to discuss our
relationship with Facebookthan I. Thanks for reaching out!
Best,
Did anyone on this thread schedule this or have context? If I'm no longer needed in orchestrating this please let me know.
Jan 4, 2016 10:08am
Thanks M |^. IVe reached out to II f directly (TPS 292525889).
Dec 28, 201511:20pm
II | is more senior, so thafs probably better for the purposes of this. E^| is person (who, we do know, helps our clients
actually do the mechanics of connecting their apps to pages.)
Dec 27, 2015 9:06pm
I've not yet received a response from my outreach to Nation Builder via the app's listed contact address. M I can therefore reach out again via
one of your direct contacts - is there a preference for II | or EE^? Or should I include them both on my outreach?
Dec 27, 2015 8:51pm
Yes. Thank you!
Dec 17, 2015 10:19pm
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Thanks all. Yes, I found an associated app: NationBuilder (126739610711965), 132k MAP. The app has passed review and seems to be actively
pulling some data based on my scuba data dive. The contact address the developer has listed on the app is
[email protected].
P|, should I schedule the call for afterthe 28th?
Dec 17, 2015 8:39pm
This should come from and I'll support. am I correct we found an app for them which means we have their dev email address or am I
off? Just on mobile so did not parse through the task.
Dec 17, 2015 6:58pm
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Dec 17, 2015 5:20pm
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and he handles their international accounts but could put us in touch with the right folks to have the call with.
Dec 17, 2015 5:17pm
That would be great! As mentioned I've been digging into Nation Builder following our call with Strategic Media 21 though am struggling to fully
understand the app based on online investigation alone. Here's what I’ve found:
-NationBuilder (12673961071 1965), 132k MAP
- Passed review for following permissions (
https://our.cstools.facebook.com/.. ./crow/apps/submission-su.../): user_events, publish_actions,
rsvp_event, manage_pages
-Actively pulling these perms:
https://fbur1.com/188631556
- In short the app seems to offer monthly subscription services for politicians, nonprofits, unions, etc building profiles based (in part) on information
pulled from the person's activity on the client’s Facebook Page. It then seems to offer correspondence services for the client's 'voter database,'
including email blasts and text messages. From the 'Howto connect to FB' FAQ page (
http://nationbuilder.eom/how_to_facebook_twitter#facebook):
'Types of Facebook page interactions logged in a nation:
1. Someone comments on an official post in a Facebook page
2. Someone creates a new post on a Facebook page
3. Someone likes an official post in a Facebook page
4. Someone RSVPs to an event via Facebook - if that Facebook event is connected to an event in your nation.
The entire list of people who have liked the Facebook page cannot be added to your people database. It is also not possible to access an individual
person's friends list in a nation."
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You can "tag" people that like a post on your Page (
http://nationbuilder.com/tag_people_who_liked_a_facebook_po .. )
I can continue to dig in, though would potentially suggest a call wit the developer to ask directly how they're using data from Facebook. CJmentioned
she is on PTO until the 28th - if we opt for a call, is this something I should schedule for afterthe 28th, oris the Nation Builder aspect of this high pri?
Dec 17, 2015 3:09pm
Yes please. Thanks!
Dec 17, 2015 12:43pm
q_/J if you need a contact at Nation Builder we have that.
Dec 17, 2015 12:16pm
We are investigating Nation Builder and will reach out to them for a mtg after checking internally to see if we have any relationship with them. is on
point. We met with Strategic Media yesterday and from that conversation its clear we need to focus first on Nation Builder.
Dec 16, 2015 1:43pm
while we sort out the Cambridge Analytica/Research use of data question, can we parallel process two other elements to get
ahead of future issues? On Friday, we chatted about equipping our team with a "plain English" description of what is in and out of bounds for data
matching in the space. We often point people to the terms, but even having a little more general of a framework/what are the bright lines would equip our
sales team in market better.
Also you help us get a review of other potentially violating vendors (also mentioned in the original task here)? Specifically Nation Builder, who has
been pitching many data matching/enriching services using FB as a component. This is one such pitch email our client received (the client in question,
ForAmerica, did not proceed on this since they believed it to be out of terms, which is why they flagged this for us). This was a project that would
leverage Strategic Media (whom I believe is working on?) and Nation Builder.
"XXX will take ForAmerica's community of 7.6 million Facebook likes and create a database identifying people who like ForAmerica posts and in many
cases use data matching to layer other information points over these individuals, including methods of contact and interests.
In order to do this, XXX will first set up an API to gather data on anyone who “Likes” a post on ForAmerica's page. Once a critical mass is reached,
XXX will match this list against our database of names, phone numbers, e-mails and mailing addresses of 82 million conservatives and Christians and
their friends.
Our initial data gathering and matching run will take place over the two months in October and November. Our estimates are that this data run would
generate a 1.25 - 3 million person database (this is an estimate and not a guarantee) that could be broken down along the following lines:
100,000-250,000: Full Data Match- name, street address, phone number, email, DOB and number of interactions with ForAmerica (can be used to
assign donorvalue at later date)
150,000 - 300,000: Partial Match- Name, City, State, DOB (can be matched against voter file to determine physical address at a future date) and
number of interactions with ForAmerica
1-2.5 million: Facebook Profile- Name and Facebook ID of individual interacting with ForAmerica"
Dec 16, 2015 11:38am
Im happy to cover with you, but up to you!
Dec 11, 2015 5:16pm
I, thanks for organizing.
- Please include me on all items related to this and I'll pull in folks as needed,
investigation, etc. or can one of you cover (with me)? Thanks.
Dec 11, 2015 4:27pm
- Do you both need to be involved in meetings /
Update: We are reaching out to Dr. Kogan and will schedule a call in addition to asking for immediate responses over email. Please be sure not to
contact Dr. Kogan or discuss anything pertaining to this investigation if he contacts you. If he does contact you, please put him in touch with me
directly.
DevOps team - are and my poc for this investigation or should I include anyone else on any rntgs we schedule (want to make sure I'm
looping in the right people)?
Dec 11, 2015 4:17pm
Hey team, pointed me to this thread. Alex Kogan was my postdoc supervisor at Cambridge, although I left before he founded GSR. I have a
cursory understanding on the basic principles behind GSR's products and data collection methods, if that helps. Feel free to ask me anything.
Dec 11, 2015 3:50pm
Hi — I’m a bit familiar with some of the context around the personality modeling stuff. As I understand it, it’s inspired from
http://www.pnas.org/content/110/15/5802.abstract which is solid science. I'm good friends with the lead author from that paper (Michal Kosinsky) and
he is not happy about how these guys are bringing his field of research into disrepute. He's offered to chat with people on our end and to give more
context if that helps, edit to be clear, the datasets mentioned in the Guardian article are different/collected differently to those in the PNAS research!
Dec 11, 2015 3:22pm
Taking a broader perspective on howto manage this moving forward, I've been in touch with and team in DC to see if there is a better way to
explain our policies - not only on the data side, but also ensuring all political apps are platform policy compliant prior to launching. We've had cases
where apps were restricted or disabled as a result of violations and that* a bad experience for everyone involved. (Ben Carson app this week, White
House app earlier this year, etc.) We have a more immediate concern here, but would love to help educate.
Dec 11, 20152:18pm
Also, importantly: according to the Wait, What thread and also an email from WV\^ - it sounds like Facebook has worked with this "Aleksandr
Kogan" on research with the Protect & Care team.
Dec 11, 2015 1:04pm
The relevant part from the Guardian article on the supposed connection between SCL and GSR:
By summer 2014, Kogan’s company had created an expansive and powerful dataset. His business partner boasted on Linked In that their private outf
Global Science Research (GSR), “owns a massive data pool of 40+ million individuals across the United States - for each of whom we have generate
detailed characteristic and trait profiles’.
Documents show SCL agreed to a contract with GSR, whereby it would pay its data collection costs in order to improve “match rates' against SC L's
existing datasets or to enhance GSR's algorithm's ‘national capacity to profile capacity of American citizens’.
In an email, Kogan said he was unable to explain in detail where all the data came from, as he was restricted by various confidentiality agreements. H
said SCL is no longer a client.
He said that while GSR often used MTurk for data collection, it “never collected more than a couple thousand responses on MTurk for any one project, or
even across all projects for a single client - the vast majority of our MTurk data collection as a company is in the form of surveys only’. He said GSR stores
Facebook data anonymously.
Kogan explained that separate from his university role, his private company undertook various commercial ventures relating to data analysis. He said that
when GSR collect Facebook data, the terms detail the use that information collected will be put to and make clear to participants that they are giving GSR
full permission to use the data and user contribution for any purpose.
He said Cambridge University had “no knowledge of the clients or projects GSR had worked on” and that GSR has never used any data collected as part o
his university activities.
Dec 11, 201512:59pm
Digging in more. /^^ pulled this list of UIDs (first three are associated with Cambridge Analytica, last one is associated with GSR):
https://fburl.com/187082435. I tried to find an obvious connection among the group, but wasn't able to (no shared apps, pages, etc among ALL four). This
means that the Cambridge Analytica/GSR connection remains unconfirmed.
With that said, we found a Business ID (id: 402996616566868) for Cambridge Analytica with one admin: The business has a Page
with 0 fans:
https://www.intern.facebook.com/cambridgeanalytica/.
Lastly (and most interestingly), the business is associated with two other Pages:
https://www.intem.facebook.com/keepthepromisel/ (a ted cruz page
that links here:
http://www.keepthepromise1.com/about/) AND
https://www.intern.facebook.com/PCIAA/ (property casualty insurers which links here:
http://www.pciaa.net/about-us/about-pci). Both Pages have roughly Ik likes.
Dec 11, 2015 12:56pm
I just looked more deeply on the GSR website and it appears they *are* offering Pll via their API:
Reveal new depths of insight from your social media data with our API product, delivering the same consumer psychology insight provided by
BrandAnalyzer at the individual level.
"Enrich Your Social Media Data
Augment social media data by appending deep psychological profiling, contextualized brand preferences, and more accurate consumer personas.
http:/c|obalscienceresearchcom/#brand_analyzerapi
Dec 11, 2015 12:00pm
As mentioned to these are the two new hires Cambridge Analytica has made: AA4^ !
5cambridgeanalytica.org:
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Dec 11, 201511:32am
Regarding speaking with Strategic Media 21, as I mentioned I've been having a back and forth with Strategic Media to setup time, I've asked GG^ (the
contactthere) to speak with us next Tuesday at 1pm PST.
Dec 11, 2015 11:09am
Unfortunately, a full analysis of Cambridge Analytica is challenging, since the site doesn't appear to be integrated with Facebook (no app id, Facebook
Page, etc). While this is the case today, in order to have obtained Facebook data, the site must have had some integration in the past. Beyond the
Guardian article, do you have additional information about the site's relationship to Facebook? If the article is true, then we maY
wantto have a call to clarify the data collection piece. Again, I'm having trouble gathering more information than what's featured on their site. Let me
know what you think.
Dec 11, 2015 11:08am
A case study on applying these methods for Hostess:
http://globalscienceresearch.com/blog-promotions-trans-fats
Dec 11, 2015 10:35am
Screenshots of their tool attached.
Dec 11, 2015 10:20am
you can register and see their data here:
http://globalsdenceresearch.eom/./205313./Facebook/Everyone
Dec 11, 2015 10:14am
Adding from Developer Policy Enforcement
Dec 11, 2015 10:11am
Here's a link to Global Science Research, the "for profit" arm of CA mentioned in the article:
http://globalscienceresearch.com/.
We had not heard of this org before the article. They operate a product called "BrandAnalyzer"' which promises to "Instantly access over 15,000 brand
reports with consumer psychology profiles and implementation guides generated from our social media data. Gain a high level overview of who
supports your brand (and your competitors)."
Dec 11, 2015 1 0:06am
CCH DDH
Hi everyone - this is hi pri at this point. This story just ran in the Guardian and is now prompting other media requests. We need to sort this out ASAP.
Thank you!
Dec 11, 2015 9:45am
Ml
‘ Can you expedite the review of Cambridge Analytica or let us know what the next steps are? Unfortunately, this firm is now a PR issue as
this story is on the front page of the Guardian website - http7AMvw.theguardian.com/ . ./senator-ted-cruz-president-cam ... ccmom is fielding
comms policy requests and concerns.
Dec 11, 2015 9:34am
Thanks yes I have been having a back-and-forth with the developer from Strategic Media attempting to set up a time to talk, though he has been
slow to respond (though is responsive) and it has been difficult to pin down a time, particularly given the short week last week. As is out this week I will
be setting up time next week to talk. Thanks for following up!
Nov 30, 2015 12:36pm
MH
Hi and ^ did either of you ever connect with Nation Builder or Strategic Media? Would love to know if we were able to learn if the methods
that they sell their appending process is considered within terms.
Nov 30, 2015 11:42am
Yes! But not after 3:30 PT
Nov 12, 2015 10:05pm
Thanks! I just heard back from the developer and he says that any 30 minute timeslot tomorrow works. Does this work for you? If so, I'll try and get
something set up. If not, please let me know which days work for you next week and I'll confirm a time.
Nov 12, 2015 9:06pm
This week works. If he gives a few blocks of time I'm sure we can make it work. Just you and I are fine (unless wants to join). Thank you!
Nov 11, 2015 1:04pm
The developer just got back to me noting he is free anytime this week. Cg, would it work for you if I schedule a call for this week? If so, is there anyone
else we need to include on our end?
Nov 10, 2015 8:59pm
As a follow-up note, I've reached out to Strategic Media (TPS 277017911) via the email address listed on the app ID associated with the strategic
media site (ID 341917549290893). I have asked for times to talk next week and will follow up here when I hear back.
Oct 29, 2015 12:00pm
Thanks, all! CQ and I synced offline about this yesterday; I will run draft outreach wording by her before reaching out to schedule a call, and will update
here with details once I've reached out. Please let me knowifthere are any questions or additional details in the interim.
Oct 21, 2015 9:06am
Awesome, thanks and Jf|. Really appreciate this as I do suspect there is plenty of bad actor behavior going on .. both Nation Builder (who is
more dominant in this space and where the original concern/scraping/appending issues are) as well as Strategic Media 21 are the two to reach out to.
My sense is that Nation Builder sells these services to Strategic Media 21 so not sure how you want to approach but they are both worthy of some direct
conversation.
Oct 20, 201 5 1:40pm
J^- We'll need to get on a call with this company b/c they appear to be violating our data policies, although it is hard to understand specifically what
they are violating without having a conversation. Can you drive this for us? I'm happy to support the call. If you think we can manage it via email I defer
to your team, but I suspect this may be easier if we talk this one out.
Oct 20, 2015 11:45am
], thanks for confirming this seems in violation. As mentioned there is a lot of confusion in the political space
about how people useFacebook to connect with other offline sets of data. In particular, Strategic media 21 has been exerting a good deal of pressure on
one of our clients to take advantage of this type of appending. This client's agency, who does not want to violate policy, is stuck in the middle of knowing
this is happening and that it is out of policy - but on the other hand, doesn't want to ruin their client relationship by calling this other vendor out. We are
seeing more ofthis type of activity in the political space, and since a few firms are now offering this type of service, clients assume that its acceptable
since no one has been told otherwise. How would you recommend proceeding here?
Oct 14, 2015 1:08pm
The vendoris strategic media 21.
http://www.strategicmedia21.com/
Creative Response Concepts is the agency that represents ForAmerica (not involved in pitching this at all - they received the below reactively) and is
uncomfortable telling them to back off without firm enforcement here given that many of FA's peers are apparently utilizing these services.
From CRC:
"If it is not allowed and you all are able to formally tell us, I can get it stopped immediately. If it is allowed, I am sure I have other clients that will want to
do it." They essentially want these guys to be shut down so they don't look like they're telling their client to play by a different set of rules from
everyone else.
Is there anything devops can do with the information we have provided?
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13, 2015 2:24pm
There are likely a few data policy violations here. They cant collect information from public posts and share that information with any type of data
broker (company XXX seems to operate in that fashion). We should tell ForAmercia not to proceed, as they (and any service provider acting on their
behalf) must not collect and use information from us for this purpose. See, Platform Policies (
https://devetopers.facebook.com/jDolicy). Can you ensure
the client doesn't proceed? Also, can you ask the client to tell us who the vendor is? We will keep it confidential and thank them in advance.
Oct 13, 2015 1:00pm
Hi All, we have some new information to share. Our client sent over the following email today referring to a Nationbuilder project their client
(ForAmerica) is moving forward with, but redacted the middle man vendor. However, this is the person who presumably works for that middle man
vendor that was added to their page as an analyst:
CCC^
Email from the client:
"FYI - ForAmerica is moving forward with the Nation Builder project. There is a vendor in the middle and this is what they have indicated ForAmerica
should end up with:
XXX will take ForAmerica’s community of 7.6 million Facebook likes and create a database identifying people who like ForAmerica posts and in many
cases use data matching to layer other information points over these individuals, including methods of contact and interests.
In order to do this, XXX will first set up an API to gather data on anyone who ‘Likes’ a post on ForAmerica’s page. Once a critical mass is reached,
XXX will match this list against our database of names, phone numbers, e-mails and mailing addresses of 82 million conservatives and Christians and
their friends.
Our initial data gathering and matching run will take place over the two months in October and November. Our estimates are that this data run would
generate a 1.25 - 3 million person database (this is an estimate and not a guarantee) that could be broken down along the following lines:
100,000-250,000: Full Data Match- name, street address, phone number, email, DOB and number of interactions with ForAmerica (can be used to
assign donorvalue at later date)
150,000 - 300,000: Partial Match- Name, City, State, DOB (can be matched against voter file to determine physical address at a future date) and
number of interactions with ForAmerica
1-2.5 million: Facebook Profile- Name and Facebook ID of individual interacting with ForAmerica
My understanding is that they are using Nation Builder to do everything.
We've set up one of their folks as an analyst on the FA Facebook account.”
Oct 13, 2015 11:36am
If s difficult to get app ID's for these companies since they're usually one-off for clients and they're not volunteering them, but I’ll dig a little.
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Sep 30, 2015 12:17pm
To set expectations, we can't certifyfapprove apps for compliance, and ifs very likely these companies are not in violation of any of ourterms. What
may help is if you provide us with concrete examples of what we understand the apps to be doing that we think may violate ourterms, and that can
help us dive in. If we had more resources we could discuss a call with the companies to get a better understanding, but we should only explore that
path if we do see red flags.
Sep 30, 2015 10:48am
Hi C^, I will have to get back to you on the Cambridge app ID, but the NationBuilder app id is: 126739610711965, which we are also
very interested if they are compliant. Thanks!
Sep 30, 2015 6:02am
Hello, thanks for surfacing this very interesting question. To start: could you provide App IDs and App names for the apps that are engaging in this
scraping of user data?
tl;dr-Need more info before can offer anything more definitive; but my hunch is that these apps' data-scraping activity is likely non-compliant (see
FPPs cited below).
As for the website itself, I dug around a bit and couldn't find any very salient red flags. However, in light of our data-sensrtivity-related policies, the
following Facebook Platform Policies (FPPs) come to mind:
FPP3.9 - Don't sell, license, or purchase any data obtained from us or our services.
FPP3.10 - Don't transfer any data that you receive from us (including anonymous, aggregate, or derived data) to any ad network, data broker or other
advertising or monetization-related service.
FPP7.4 - Request only the data and publishing permissions your app needs.
There are also more FPPs related to data stuff here: https ://developers.facebook.corrVpolicy/#data
As for your questions:
(1) I dont believe we currently have any language/boilerplate messaging re: political analysis/data-scraping apps.
(2) Please provide App IDs, I'd be happy to investigate their app's activity.
(3) Without App IDs to dig deeper, I can't say exactly what they're doing, but my initial hunch is that "automatically linking emails in your database to
FB accounts" would be against our policies (whether for FPP or otherwise), mainly because it seems to access data that isn't explicitly being permitted
access by the user (see FPP7.4 above). It also brings to mind the following:
FPP3. 1 1 - Dont put Facebook data in a search engine or directory, or include web search functionality on Facebook.
With all the above-mentionend FPPs in mind, I imagine it would be *very* difficult to engage in data-scraping activity as you described while still being
compliant with FPPs.
Passing back to i
Sep 29, 2015 5:38pm
I] for her thoughts.
Hi team - I'm passing this to DevOps for initial review. They can help investigate and from there we can discuss. At a high level it is possible these
services comply with our terms, but it is also possible they do not. I'm happy to meet with anyone who would like to learn more about our policies with
respect to data collection and use. My calendar is up to date, so dont hesitate to find time for us.
Sep 29, 2015 8:57am
Following upon H^^|' task here - we are getting several pointed questions from the political partner space around what is in bounds versus
what is out of bounds. Many companies seem to be on the edge- possibly over. Would it be worth setting up a call to chat through the boundaries? or
can you take a look at the cited examples and weigh in on the methods/tolerance for them? Thank you!
Sep 29, 2015 7:16am
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