F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 32 06 Aug 2001

F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 32 06 Aug 2001
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| |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are |
| | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings|
| | | | San Francisco, California, USA |
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| | (*) | \ ))| Editor: Frank Vest |
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| /Editor\ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
|(________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
It's hot in Texas! ....................................... 2
3. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 3
Owls ..................................................... 3
4. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 4
HUMOR.JOK ................................................ 4
5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 5
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 5
6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 11
How to Submit an Article ................................. 11
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 12
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 13
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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Always Hope For The Best And Prepare For The Worst,
You May Not Get What You Pay For, But You'll Surely
Pay For What You Get!!!"
---- Maya Angelou

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GENERAL ARTICLES
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It's hot in Texas!
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308

The "Food For Thought" section is strangely fitting to me this week.
It wasn't intended that way, but the powers above sometimes make
things fit too well. :-)

It's Sunday. It's hot. My air conditioner is out. Isn't that
enough?!?

Nope. I just called three service places. The first two told me that
their Sunday rates are some $90.00 for a service call and up to
$160.00 per hour after the 30 minute service call. Whew!! I understand
that Sunday isn't a real favorite day to work, but, really!?!

Ok.. I guess it's only fair... Yeah, right!

On the third call, I was ready. "What are your Sunday rates?" I asked.
The answer really caught me off guard. "The same as our weekday
rates." came the answer. "We charge $45.00 for the service call." My
next question was "How much per hour after the service call?",
expecting some outrageous rate. The reply was "We don't charge by the
hour. We give you an estimate after we determine what is wrong and
what is needed to fix it."

Well... After I composed myself (took a couple of seconds), I told
them to send the tech. I mean, gee... Even if they charge a high price
for parts and such, that shouldn't be close to $160.00 per hour plus
parts (which I'm sure would be high priced too). I've messed with air
conditioning before and the simplest job can take more than an hour.

My real peeve here is; Why should places be allowed to charge
according to the day of the week? I didn't ask for my unit to quit on
Sunday. I didn't make the tech take the Sunday shift. I didn't ask the
company to be open on Sundays.

I know... it's their world and I am at the disadvantage. If I want it,
I have to deal with whatever is charged for the service at the time.
Still... It seems wrong to charge different rates for different days
just because they can get away with it.

Anyway. That's my input for this week.. You all take care and stay
cool if your in a hot part of the world. If your in a cold area, stay
warm. Either way, watch out if you need service on your heating or air
conditioning. :-)

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COMIX IN ASCII
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Owls

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[`-'] [`S'] [ ] "`-']
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confidential owl super owl minimalist owl cubist owl

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CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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submitted by [email protected]

A fire fighter was working on the engine outside the station
when he noticed a little boy next door in a little red wagon
with little ladders hung on the side. The boy was wearing a
firefighter's helmet and had the wagon tied to a dog and a cat.

The firefighter said, "Hey little partner, what are you doing?"
The little boy said, "I'm pretending to be a fireman and this
is my fire truck." The firefighter walked over to take a closer
look.
"That sure is a nice fire truck" he said with admiration.
"Thanks mister" the boy said. The firefighter looked a little
closer and noticed that the boy had tied the wagon to the
dog's collar and to the cat's testicles.

" Little partner," the firefighter said, "I don't want to tell
you how to run your fire truck, but if you were to tie that
rope around the cat's collar, I think you could go faster.

"You're probably right, mister", the boy said, "but then I
wouldn't have a siren."

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| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
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aDSL, 60 | n/c
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2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
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3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
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333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
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400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
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2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
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5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
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5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
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5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
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| http://www.fidonews.org |
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| (subject: help body: list) |
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NetStats

INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.215
File has a Date Stamp of : 8/3/2001
File Size (uncompressed) : 1232.58 KBytes.

The Input Nodelist file has 11364 Nodes in it
and a total of 14499 non-comment entries.

The list has 6 Zones listed.
68 Region Coordinators listed.
505 Network Hosts listed.
794 Hubs listed.
372 DOWN Nodes listed.
827 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
563 HOLD Nodes listed.

Administrative overhead = 1373 ( 12.08 %)
PRIVATE NODES overhead = 827 ( 7.28 %)

Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
FIDONEWS 18-32 Page 14 6 Aug 2001

9600 = 9719 ( 85.52 %)
(HST's = 214 or 2.20 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(PEP's = 16 or 0.16 % " " " " )
(MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
(HAY's = 3 or 0.03 % " " " " )
(V32's = 5516 or 56.75 % " " " " )
(V32B's = 714 or 7.35 % " " " " )
(V42's = 5178 or 53.28 % " " " " )
(V42B's = 768 or 7.90 % " " " " )
2400 = 114 ( 1.00 %)
1200 = 8 ( 0.07 %)
300 = 533 ( 4.69 %)

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F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4547
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 11
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 13
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XP Seadog 6
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XR Opus 1.03 78
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XW Fido >12M 411
Tabby
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 4765
Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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CrashMail capable = 4250 ( 37.40 %)
MailOnly Nodes = 5776 ( 50.83 %)
Listed-Only Nodes = 848 ( 7.46 %)

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