F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 09 26 Feb 2001

F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 09 26 Feb 2001
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Table of Contents
1. HEADLINE ................................................. 1
Headline.hd .............................................. 1
2. CHAT WITH THE EDITOR ..................................... 2
<:<: EDITORIAL :>:> ...................................... 2
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
<<< ARTICLES >>> ......................................... 3
4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN .......................................... 7
((( Ol'WDB's COLUMN ))) .................................. 7
5. TRUE STORIES ............................................. 9
::: TRUE STORIES ::: ..................................... 9
6. RECIPES .................................................. 11
[[[[[ RECIPIE'S of NOTE ]]]]] ............................ 11
7. POET'S CORNER ............................................ 15
//\ Poetry /\\ ........................................... 15
8. NOTICES .................................................. 16
/\/\/\NOTICES of NOTE/\/\/\ .............................. 16
9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 18
10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 23
***FIDONEWS INFORMATION*** ............................... 23
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HEADLINE
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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity;
an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
--Sir Winston Churchill
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CHAT WITH THE EDITOR
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Hi Folks, first a reminder that the dreaded "Tax-Time" is here and the
last day you can file is April 16th this year. So it is time to start
the catagorizing of all those receipt slips you have faithfully saved
to the proverbial `shoe box'. May be you will luck out and get a
refund this year... here's hoping!

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ARTICLES
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From: "R. B. Crowninshield" <[email protected]>

Survival

Every morning in Africa, a Gazelle wakes up. It knows it must run
faster than the fastest Lion or it will be killed...

Every morning a Lion wakes up. It knows it must outrun the slowest
Gazelle or it will starve to death.

It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle... when the sun
comes up, you'd better be Running.

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* Forwarded by Jack Yates (1:3613/1275) * Area : OLD_ENGINE
(OLD_ENGINE) * From : Jack Yates, 1:3613/1275 (21 Feb 01 21:13) * To :
Y'all * Subj : Rites of spring
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I took the antique John Deere over to our friend's estate today; I
call it an "estate" because he has about 2 and one-half acres and
*three* shotgun shacks, that's high livin' in Rural, Gawga. The
purpose of my sojourn was to turn up our communal garden patch with
the disc harrow, a feat at which I'm rather adept albeit it's a large
tractor in a small space, though a daffodill or two may have suffered.
At least, the houses and all the trees are still in place and I failed
to cut up the garden hose.

It's a singular, unexplainable thrill to be sitting on high, looking
backward at the green vegetation and brown earth curling off the
concave discs as their sharp edges slice through the sod, second only
to the vision of the turf rolling off the moldboard of the plough;
truly indescribable to anyone but another son or daughter of the soil.
Whilst so engaged, I was reminded of two bachelor farmers of my
acquaintance, back in my youth, and of the story I wrote of them
several years ago. It has become a yearly ritual for me to post it in
one of these echoes; this year, it's your turn....

LAAAADIEEEEES AND GENNNNNNULMENNNNNNNNN......:

Every once in a while, each of us sees or hears something that he or
she will remember as long as he or she lives. Such is the following
tale which I transcribed in another echo (which a few of us here are
known to frequent) and though it has yet to evoke any response in the
original posting, the subject being a dunghill, many have probably
turned up their noses when they see the subject line and gone on to
the next post. Nonetheless, it is indeed a part of Americana and
proof that humor can be found at all levels of humanity. What's more,
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it proves my life-long belief that life, itself is funny enough that
one does not have to make up a good story.... The following is a true
tale, I was there, I saw it unfold:

Joe and Jimmy, the Conway brothers owned a dairy farm in L***, New
York; 200 acres, 50 or so cows, a livestock barn, a separate hayshed
as the old two-story barn had burned a few years back due to the
spontaneous combustion of some bales of green hay in the mow, two
tractors, a Farmall "Super M" and a Farmall "H", all the neccessary
implements for fitting ground, cultivating and harvesting beans, corn,
silage, and wheat, a feed grinder-mixer, and a manure spreader. The
Conway Brothers were bachelors in their late forties or early fifties,
Joe was the older, the leader; they lived in the kitchen of their
ten-room house.

Each day, Joe and Jimmy would arise, put on their shirts and bib
overalls and go to the barn to milk, then clean the barn and the
milking machine; Jimmy would go to the house to prepare his breakfast,
Joe would go to town and eat his breakfast in a local restaurant as
Jimmy's cooking had long ago gained a notorious reputation. Joe would
then return to the farm, stop at the mailbox and retrieve the day's
missals and the morning paper which he would read while sitting in his
pickup.

Joe paid all the bills, usually by check; he carried the pad of checks
in the top pocket of his pin-striped overalls along with a stub of
pencil, he did not keep a register, however. He once received a
friendly note from the local bank that he was overdrawn in the amount
of about $4000, would he please make a deposit? I helped him search
through the huge mound of crumpled newspapers in the cab of his truck,
page by page; we found bills from the power company, phone company,
his tax bill from the Town, and several month's worth of checks from
the dairy totaling about $12,000 in payment for milk produced on their
farm.

Morning ablutions were tended to in the milkhouse using the same soap
to cleanse the body as was used to clean the pipeline milker and bulk
tank; the Conway brothers sported a ruddy complexion winter and summer
due to the harshness of the soap. Joe shaved with a straight razor,
Jimmy had bought an electric razor; it broke, the company that made it
refused to repair it under warranty, Jimmy did not shave for the next
4 years.

Joe and Jimmy were Roman Catholic, faithwise, and attended mass as
often as the morning chores would allow them to, and as they would go
to the church directly from the barn, the congregation needed not turn
to see who entered a few minutes late provided their collective
olfactory systems were functioning.

It may be derived from the above that the Conway brothers
were..errrr...eccentric.

It was nearly spring-time, the weather had begun to get warmer, the
snow was melting, and the time had come to spread the winter's
collection of manure on the fields. Jimmy had made a great many trips
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from the dunghill; he had reduced it to just a small heap, it was
almost gone save for a pile about a foot high and he had backed the
manure spreader under the chute of the barn cleaner to receive the
morning's contribution. To and fro went the drive chain, driven by
the hydraulic ram, open and shut went the paddles as they pivoted on
the chain, opening across the gutter on the forward stroke, folding
against the chain on the return, only to open again and force the
effluvium inexorably toward the target, the bed of the manure spreader
which was sitting rearmost toward the barn, under the discharge chute,
right next to the open double doors.

Jimmy waited patiently, sitting on the idling Farmall, he watched the
pile of the aromatic substance rise higher and higher, once he pulled
the spreader ahead a few feet to distribute the load more evenly; the
spreader filled to overflowing, it could hold no more, the balance of
the end product of bovine mastication fell to the earth around the
spreader until the barn was devoid of all such substance. Joe pressed
the "stop" button on the barn cleaner and waved to Jimmy to go on to
the field with the load. (Jimmy rarely did *anything* without
direction from Joe.) Jimmy stepped on the clutch pedal, snicked the
shift lever on the "H" into 3rd gear and eased up on the
clutch..................

Spring Thaw in New York State is a very wet time of year; the frozen
ground turns to mud, red clay mud several inches deep, and fresh cow
manure is slippery, very slippery. the wheels on the Farmall turned,
the tractor did not move. Jimmy disengaged the clutch, moved the
shift lever to 2nd gear, engaged the clutch again, and again the
tractor did not move. Jimmy then opened the throttle a few notches
and began to move his foot from one brake pedal to the other, as the
left wheel would spin, he would apply the left brake, the right wheel
would spin, right brake; left brake, right brake, left
brake....Finally, in exasperation, Jimmy disengaged the clutch, moved
the shift lever to neutral, slapped the throttle wide open, and as he
reached his hand toward the ring on the end of the lever that engages
the power take-off, I retreated hastily to the other end of the barn!
He took his foot off the clutch pedal, the power take-off started
spinning, the beaters on the rear of the spreader started whirring and
the S**t indeed, hit the fan! The picture still remains in my mind.
as I entered the milkhouse, I turned and saw clods of fresh manure
flying everywhere, most of it through the open doors and into the
dairy barn with Joe standing in the middle of the doorway waving his
arms frantically, looking the perfect characticure of a portly
windmill, and shouting to his brother:

"For God's sake, Jimmy, shut that damn thing off, we just whitewashed
the barn....!"

---Frank Yates

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Clem Caddlehopper of Corn County
as told me by Paul Bonner

Clem was operating his bran new Minneapolis Moline Model 5000 corn
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combine mechanize for th very first time on his 500 acre corn farm.
The corn was tall as a mule's ears and just right for picking. He
opened the throttle about half way and eased off on the clutch to
slowly turn into the first row of his fine corn crop. He was chugging
along at about one mile an hour 'cause he was a really slow thinking
kind of guy.

After he turned around at the end of first row, heading back to the
end where he started he decided after much contemplation to move the
throttle up a couple of notches to two miles an hour, 'cause he
figured he wasn't so dumb as to go only one mile an hour.

He arrived at the end of that row just fine, even if a little bored as
the rows were half mile long. He was proud of the "thunkety thunking"
of the hundreds of ears of corn the big Minneapolis Moline Model 5000
spit into the corn bin in just two rows! He thought, "Man this is a
snap! I'm gonna get rich with this corn picker, it gets every ear on
every stalk!" And he started his big corn picker down the third row,
he also kicked up the throttle to five miles per hour. He wasn't the
town dummy any more, he was a fine businessman with a fine M-M #5000
corn picker and he was going to get rich!

Well ole Clem got so confident in his operating that big corn picker
that he became a might careless. The wind blew his old straw hat off
into that business end of the corn picker, and quick as a cat's pounce
he grabbed it with his right hand, then realized that he couldn't get
it back, he stuck his left hand in to help his right hand get out of
the business end of his big corn picker... lost ALL TEN fingers, both
hands to that big Minnapolis Moline Model 5000 corn picker!

Well the folks at the Clinic were kind to him and got his fingerless
hands bandaged and told him life was going to be rough for a dummy who
plays with corn picking machines; that he may as well go on down to
the library and get a book or two as he couldn't do anything more
"'cept sit in his old rocker on the front porch and read".

Time went by and ole Clem kept on rockin' and readin', and the lady at
the library just bragged on him something awful! She thought he was
so smart to have read all the books in the library in only one year
since his accident. She avowed to every one that Clem was the
smartest man in town, "wye... no body in th' whole town ever read ALL
of th' books" in her library before. She said, "he could hardly read
first grade material when he first came to my library, and now he has
read every book I have! Next year I'm going to teach Clem Caddlehopper
how to WRITE!" 8^)

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OL'WDB'S COLUMN
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A teacher in New York decided to honor each of her seniors in High
School by telling them the difference they each made. She called each
student to the front of the class, one at a time.

First she told each of them how they had made a difference to her and
the class.

Then she presented each of them with a blue ribbon imprinted with
gold letters, which read, "Who I Am Makes A Difference."

Afterwards the teacher decided to do a class project to see what kind
of impact recognition would have on a community. She gave each of the
students three more ribbons and instructed them to go out and spread
this acknowledgment ceremony. Then they were to follow up on the
results, to see who honored whom and report back to the class in about
a week.

One of the boys in the class went to a junior executive in a nearby
company and honored him for helping him with his career planning. He
gave him a blue ribbon and put it on his shirt. Then he gave him two
extra ribbons and said, "We're doing a class project on recognition,
and we'd like you to go out find somebody to honor, give them a blue
ribbon, then give them the extra blue ribbon so they can acknowledge a
third person to keep this acknowledgment ceremony going. Then please
report back to me and tell me what happened."

Later that day the junior executive went in to see his boss, who had
been noted, by the way, as being kind of a grouchy fellow. He sat his
boss down and he told him that he deeply admired him for being a
creative genius.

The boss seemed very surprised. The junior executive asked him if he
would accept the gift of the blue ribbon and would he give him
permission to put it on him. His surprised boss said, "Well, sure."
The junior executive took the blue ribbon and placed it right on his
boss' jacket above his heart. As he gave him the last extra ribbon,
he said, "Would you do me a favor? Would you take this extra ribbon
and pass it on by honoring somebody else. The young boy who first gave
me the ribbons is doing a project in school and we want to keep this
recognition ceremony going and find out how it affects people."

That night the boss came home to his 14-year-old son and sat him down.
He said, "The most incredible thing happened to me today. I was in my
office and one of the junior executives came in and told me he admired
me and gave me a blue ribbon for being a creative genius. Imagine. He
thinks I'm a creative genius Then he put this blue ribbon that says
"Who I Am Makes a Difference." on my jacket above my heart. He gave me
an extra ribbon and asked me to find somebody else to honor. As I was
driving home tonight, I started thinking about whom I would honor with
this ribbon and I thought about you want to honor you. My days are
really hectic and when I come home I don't pay a lot of attention to
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you Sometimes I scream at you for not getting good enough grades in
school and for your bedroom being a mess, but somehow tonight, I just
wanted to sit here and, well, just let you know that you do make a
difference to me. Besides your mother, you are the most important
person in my life. You're a great kid and I love you!"

The startled boy started to sob and sob, and he couldn't stop crying.
His whole body shook. He looked up at his father and said through his
tears, "Dad, earlier tonight I sat in my room and wrote a letter to
you and Mom explaining why I had killed myself and asking you to
forgive me. I was going to commit suicide tonight after you were
asleep. I just didn't think that you cared at all. The letter is
upstairs. I don't think I need it after all." His father walked
upstairs and found a heartfelt letter full of anguish and pain.The
envelope was addressed, "Mom and Dad".

The boss went back to work a changed man. He was no longer a grouch
but made sure to let all his employees know that they made a
difference. The junior executive helped several other young people
with career planning and never forgot to let them know that they made
a difference in his life...one being the boss' son And the young boy
and his classmates learned a valuable lesson Who you are DOES make
difference.

next message.

If you want, you can send it to all of the people who mean something
to you or send it to the one, two, or three people who mean the most.
Or just smile and know that someone thinks that you are important, or
you wouldn't have received this in the first place. Remember that I
give you a blue ribbon.

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From: "R. B. Crowninshield" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: NASCAR and Perspective
Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:32 PM
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19 February 2001

On 18 February 2001, while racing for fame and fortune, Dale Earnhardt
died in the last lap of the Daytona 500. It was surely a tragedy for
his family, friends and fans. He was 49 years old with grown
children, one, which was in the race. I am new to the NASCAR culture
so much of what I know has come from the newspaper and TV. He was a
winner and earned everything he had. This included more than "$41
million in winnings and ten times that from endorsements and souvenir
sales". He had a beautiful home and a private jet. He drove the most
sophisticated cars allowed and every part was inspected and replaced
as soon as there was any evidence of wear. This is normally fully
funded by the car and team sponsors. Today, there is no TV station
that does not constantly remind us of his tragic end and the radio
already has a song of tribute to this winning driver. Nothing should
be taken away from this man, he was a professional and the best in his
profession. He was in a very dangerous business but the rewards were
great.

Two weeks ago seven U.S. Army soldiers died in a training accident
when two UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters collided during night maneuvers
in Hawaii. The soldiers were all in their twenties, pilots,
crewchiefs and infantrymen. Most of them lived in sub-standard
housing. If you add their actual duty hours (in the field, deployed)
they probably earn something close to minimum wage. The aircraft they
were in were between 15 and 20 years old. Many times parts were not
available to keep them in good shape due to funding. They were
involved in the extremely dangerous business of flying in the Kuhuku
mountains at night. It only gets worse when the weather moves in as
it did that night. Most times no one is there with a yellow or red
flag to slow things down when it gets critical. Their children where
mostly toddlers who will lose all memory of who "Daddy" was as they
grow up. They died training to defend our freedom.

I take nothing away from Dale Earnhardt but ask you to perform this
simple test. Ask any of your friends if they know who was the NASCAR
driver killed on 18 February 2001. Then ask them if they can name one
of the seven soldiers who died in Hawaii two weeks ago.

18 February 2001, Dale Earnhardt died driving for fame and glory at
the Daytona 500. The nation mourns. Seven soldiers died training to
protect our freedom. No one can remember their names and most don't
even remember the incident.

Ed Mitchell OSA-CBM Comanche Support Engineering P.O. Box 16858 MS
P10-87 Philadelphia, Pa 19142-0858 (V)610 591-4302 (F) 610-591-6622
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RECIPES
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By: Connie SimienTo: All
Ammo Crackers
Categories: Breads, Crackers, LA Times
Yield: 12 servings

INFUSED OIL
1/2 c olive oil
1 tb chili powder
1 tb red pepper flakes
1 tb paprika
CRACKERS
Nonstick cooking spray
1 1/2 c water
2 tb honey
Salt
4 c flour
Infused Oil
Pepper
1 tb red pepper flakes
1 tb chopped fresh oregano
1/4 c grated Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese

It's a pasta! It's a crisp, crunchy cheese bread for 2000!

Active Work Time: 1 hour r 15 minutes
Total Prep Time: 1 hour 30 minutes

INFUSED OIL
Whisk together the oil, chili powder, pepper flakes and paprika in a
small bowl. Set aside.

CRACKERS
Heat the oven to 400 degrees. Spray 5 baking sheets with non-stick
cooking spray.

Combine the water, honey and 1 tbls salt in a medium-sized bowl and
mix until the salt is dissolved.

Place the flour in the bowl of a mixer and, beating at low speed,
slowly add the water mixture until a dough forms that pulls away form
the sides of the bowl, forming into a ball. The dough will be sticky.

Knead the dough on a floured surface 1 minute. Divide the dough into
pieces small enough to fit your pasta machine. Dust both sides of the
dough with flour. Start by running one piece of dough through the
machine at its widest setting, then repeat, narrowing the setting each
time, ending with the next- to-the-narrowest setting. You'll have a
long dough strip when you're done that's as thin as fresh pasta. Place
the dough strip on one of the prepared baking sheets. Repeat this
step with each of the remaining pieces of dough. Some of the dough may
tear or become too thin, but you should end up with about 15 long,
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thin pieces on the baking sheets.

Brush the dough with theInfused Oil, sprinkle each with salt and
pepper to taste, and then with the pepper flakes, oregano and cheese.

Bake the crackers until browned and crisp, 6 to 10 minutes. Cool them
on racks, then break into pieces and serve.

12 servings. Each serving: 260 calories; 73 mg sodium; 2 mg
cholesterol; 11 gr fat; 36 gr carbohydrates; 6 gr protein; 1.87 gr
fiber.

COMMENTS - CULINARY SOS Q: Would you please obtain the recipe for the
crackers served at Ammo Restaurant in Hollywood? They are so
delicious and dangerously addictive. WE want to make these
Parmesan-pepper crackers at home every day. M.F., Los Angeles A: Ammo
kindly rushed the recipe to us for our readers benefit. The chefs at
Ammo use a commercial pastry rolling machine to make these; we were
able to produce the same result using a home pasta machine. Make the
Infused Oil first, then brush it on the crackers.

Source: LA Times Food Section, Wednesday, January 21, 2001.

--- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Salata * Redondo Beach, CA * 310-543-0439
33.6k (1:102/125)
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Glazed cornish hens

4 ea [1 1/2 to 2 lb] Cornish Game hens
1 1/2 c soy sauce
2 c water
1/2 c dry white wine
3/4 c sugar
4 star anise
1 ea [1o] piece ginger root, sliced

You can store the soy sauce mixture in an airtight container in the
refrigerator for up to four weeks and use it again. Use leftovers for
a quick salad or flavorful sandwich.

Active Work Time: 15 minutes Total Prep Time: 1 hour 30 minutes

Remove the excess fat form the game hens. Wash the hens in cold
running water; drain.

Bring the soy sauce, water, wine, sugar, star anise and ginger to boil
in a 3- quart saucepan. The saucepan should be large enough to hold 2
hens, side by side, on the bottom.

Add the hens and return the sauce to boiling. Turn the hens over,
being careful not to break the skin [it looks best unbroken]. Return
to boiling, reduce the heat to medium and simmer 5 minutes. Reduce
the heat to low, cover and simmer 10 to 15 minutes. Do not allow the
mixture to boil too hard or the skin on the hens will break. Turn the
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hens over and cook another 10 to 15 minutes; check to see if theyAre
done by removing one from the pan and wiggling the leg. If wiggles
easily, theyAre done. Remove the hens carefully; keep warm.

Repeat with the remaining hens. Cut each hen into halves and serve
warm.

NOTE: Leeann prepared the hens earlier in the day and then deep-fried
them in oil just prior to dinner to heat through. This has the added
benefit of making the skin shiny and crisp.

4 servings. Each serving: 618 calories; 581 mg sodium; 297 mg
cholesterol; 41 gr fat; 5 gr carbohydrates; 51 gr protein; 0.99 gr
fiber.

Source: LA Times Food Section, Wednesday, January 24, 2001.

--- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Salata * Redondo Beach, CA * 310-543-0439
33.6k (1:102/125)

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The Jan/Feb edition of Choice magazine (www.choice.com.au) has an
article on eggs which tells you everything most ppl would want to
know.

A fresh egg, when broken has a high, rounded yolk, surrounded by a
thick layer of white; as it gets older the white gets thinner and the
yolk flatter and more easily broken.

"A quick test for freshness is to pop the raw egg in it's shell in a
bowl of water. It it sinks to a completely horizontal position it's
very fresh; if it tilts up slightly it's probably around a week old
and if it floats it's probably far from fresh."

Eggs will last a week at average room temperature (probably a lot less
than that in your chook house over the last few days), and about 6
weeks in the fridge. Don't wash the eggs before storage.

In hot weather the chooks eat less, and the eggs are smaller.

The Salmonella Enteritidis which has caused food poisoning in USA has
not been detected in Australia to date, so raw eggs should be quite
safe here.

The bluegreen layer around the yolk of a hardboiled egg is due to iron
sulphide, produced by the reaction of iron in the yolk with the
hydrogen sulphide in the white.

"Eggs do contain cholesterol (in the yolk), but it's now known that
for most people the amount of saturated fat you eat is much more
important for your risk of heart disease than the amount of
cholesterol you eat. If your blood cholesterol is in the normal range,
it's OK to eat eggs and other foods that are high in cholesterol (such
as some offal and seafood). If your blood cholesterol is high, it
might be a good idea to limit these foods to only a few times a week."
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"Yolk colour depends on the hen's diet. Grass, maize, carrot and
pumpkin all produce a darker yolk."

I trust that info is useful to you.

Cheers from Glen, egging you on, from Birthl

--- FLAME v2.0/b * Origin: Braintap BBS Adelaide Oz, Internet UUCP
+61-8-8239-0497 (3:800/449)

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POET'S CORNER
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By: Carol Shenkenberger
To: All
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Outa-stuff cooking- Sat 24FEB01

I looked in the larder and what did I see? But 4 small frozen
crawfish, peeking back at me....

I took a potato, and an onion or 2, and dropped them in broth, just
fit for 2.

I added some pepper, on Salt, on Cayene Pepper!

When what to my suprise did my eyes next percieve? 4 lonely mushrooms
and a can of chilies!

As all eyes looked silent, the soup slowly perked, then in dashed some
chicken! My what a perk!

{munch}

;-)
xxcarol
For those who don't know, our Carol is in the service of our country
in the USNavy; and is being sent to Japan on a two year assignment.
This little off the cuff verse demonstrates how she fights stress with
most of her household packed and on the way to Japan. We all hope she
and hubby and kitty will arrive safely and get back on line quick! I
don't know the exact date of departure for them, but we'll sure miss
them untill she is settled and with us again, probably via Todd in
Hawaii.

ED.
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NOTICES
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From: "Frank Vest" <[email protected]>
To: "Warren Bonner" <[email protected]>
Subject: Announcement
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:08 PM

Just a quick announcement for the next Fidonews.

It seems that Fidonet will be losing two John's.

John Woodward, 1:3828/2, former R19EC and many other good things, has
announced that he is leaving Fidonet. I can't speak for everyone, but
this is a great loss to Fidonet in my humble opinion. John has been a
good friend to Fido for the past 12 years. John's projected closing
will be April 1, 2001.

John Souvestre has announced that he will be leaving Fidonet. As most
know, John Souvestre is the "Southern Star" hub for the Z1Backbone.
John has been with Fidonet for some 13 years. His last day will also
be April 1, 2001.

You will both be missed.

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By: John Souvestre, The Southern Star (396/1)
To: Warren Bonner
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Hello Warren.

WB> I am requesting from you a short bio that I can include in my
WB> column for next week.

I hope that you don't make a big thing of it. I'm just one guy. :-)

WB> Age, wife, children, to get to know the person, and description
WB> of system(s), connections, bandwidths, etc.
WB> And a cap of your hobby and the help you have been to so many for
WB> so long.

I'm 49, single, no children. I'm a Design Engineer (embedded systems,
software and digital) by trade. I started the BBS 13 years ago. The
system grew and spawned an Internet Service Provider business, which
is what I do now. In FidoNet, I've served as NC, Net Hub, NEC, Region
Hub, REC, Zonegate, Filebone Coord, Filebone Hub, and Zone Hub. I
helped start Net 1:396, Backbone, ERN, Filebone, new FTSC and Z1
Backbone.

WB> Sure sorry to see you go, John... another pillar of Fido moves on
WD> to better use of his time and expierence.

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I know that there will be times that I miss it, but it's time for me
to move on. You can still reach me at [email protected].

Regards,

John
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By: TODD COCHRANE
To: ALL
Re: Bye
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*****Brenda Donivan Crossposted John Souvestre's Fido Exit:

BD> On Apr 1 2001 I'm shutting down the BBS and leaving FidoNet.
Please arrange to move your feeds elsewhere. Anyone paid ahead will
receive a refund. My Internet services will not be affected by this.

*****Todd Cochrane:

For any of you currently getting a feed from John and will be looking
for a new home we are available to pick up any nodes or networks
that need a feed.

The service is FREE and we can handle the following connection types

BINKP
FTP
Telnet Mailer
PXFIDS (PXW SYSTEMS)

We are a minute mail system and have been moving mail over the
Internet for over 5 years. We carry a large majority of the regional
echos and have a high speed connection to the net.

My wife and I have purchased a piece of property in Hawaii Kai in
Hawaii and we will be co-locating a server farm there. This will allow
me to move some of our servers from our Guam business to Hawaii. We
will be moving into that facility in late May. Service to that
facility will be a T-3 with more bandwidth available upon demand.
Currently we have a guaranteed service level of T-1 1.5 MPS

We have vowed to be that last Fido Node whenever that day should c me,
so you can count on us to be with you for the long haul.

Todd Cochrane [email protected] 1:10/345 --- OLXWin 1.00b
http://www.bbsnets.com/ The URL says it all * Origin: BBS Networks @
www.bbsnets.com [8010] 808-839-5016 (1:10/345)

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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*Fidonet-related sites

. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
Last update: February 7, 2000

FidoNet
Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html

Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.r10.org
Net 102 http://home.earthlink.net/~kayshapero/net102.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Net 2410: http://www.vector.11.com/net2410/
Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 15: <vacant>
Region 16: <vacant>
Region 17: http://www.region17.net
Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
Net 124: http://www.dallasinet.com/net124
http://texoma.net/~flv
Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/

Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
FIDONEWS 18-09 Page 19 26 Feb 2001

Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
Net 5074: http://www.z2.n5074.fidonet.net
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
(Chinese)

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be [email protected], but you get the idea.

Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
time between when the message is received, and when it is
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
FIDONEWS 18-09 Page 20 26 Feb 2001

v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS | 33.6k | n/c
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3407/4 @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k |N/C
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-09 Page 21 26 Feb 2001

344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* NFS = Linux Networking
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Fidonet oriented news servers

news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net

Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)

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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, [email protected]. All email addresses
here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and
most especially, email addressed to [email protected]
will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com

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The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file
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These sources are normally available through your Network
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