F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 41 08 Oct 1999

F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 41 08 Oct 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
What's Not Happening ..................................... 1
2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
Early Thanksgiving ....................................... 2
3. NET HUMOR ................................................ 3
Handle With Care ......................................... 3
4. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 4
Famous Cows... the series continues ...................... 4
5. NOTICES .................................................. 5
Future History ........................................... 5
6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 6
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs ................................ 6
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 7
7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 9
Masthead ................................................. 9
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EDITORIAL
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.-- -- -- -- -- -- WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING -- -- -- -- -- --.
| There isn't always something happening on Fidonet, but |
| there's always something which isn't happening. This |
| column is dedicated to the lost causes which make Fido |
| what it isn't today. Published semi-occasionally... |
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It's not a good week for news. It wasn't planned that way, but it's
the way it turned out. This was a week for your editor to take
vacation from his job. Though Fido activities were going to take a
back seat for some personal time, there was lots of time left over
for Fido. It was going to be a week when I searched out burning
issues to report, installed some software to help the operation
along, and continue the facelift of the ol' Snooze.

<sigh> But Fidonews comes to you with the same old face, the
software is still archived, and the only burning issues are in the
FN_SYSOP area - where my moderation has drawn deep criticism both
from those wh feel I haven't done enough and those who feel I've
done too much.

Actually, it may have been an excellent week for news - I just
didn't get to see it from my perspective. If any of you out there
have seen anything I missed, please send it as an article to one of
the addresses inside the box with the doggie... help out your old
feeble editor :)

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ARTICLES
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Early Thanksgiving

Though we're over a month away from the holiday, I'd like to extend
thanks to the following individuals...

... David Moufarrege for not making a _big_ deal about me
misspelling his name last week.

... Jim Barchuk, Webmaster of fidonews.org, for tolerating me
incorrectly referring to it as "fidonet.org."

And for their contributions to the Fidonet Related Sites listed in
this edition...

... Andrius Sytas for the Lithuanian web page address (2:47
listing).

... Damian Walker for the update on the Region 25, Net 2502 listing.

... Frank Vest for the additional Region 19 listings (Nets
124, 130, and 393.

... Joe Jared, who already takes care of the Fidonet Via Internet
listing for agreeing to take care of the Fidonet Related Sites also.

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NET HUMOR
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Handle With Care

The college professor had just finished explaining an important
research project to his class. He emphasized that this paper was an
absolute requirement for passing his class, and that there would be
only two acceptable excuses for being late. Those were a medically
certifiable illness or a death in the student's immediate family. A
smart ass student in the back of the classroom waved his hand and
spoke up.

"But what about extreme sexual exhaustion, professor?"

As you would expect, the class exploded in laughter. When the
students had finally settled down, the professor froze the young man
with a glaring look.

"Well," he responded, "I guess you'll just have to learn to write
with your other hand."

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COMIX IN ASCII
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()
Famous Cows... ( )
( __ )
(oo)
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/ | || ||| ... the series continues!
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^^ ^^
Ayatollah Cow-manhi

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NOTICES
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Future History

26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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Last Updated: 9/25/1999

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo
107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 | Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
270/101 | George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 | David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c

301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks

Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, [email protected], and
complaints to [email protected] .

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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Region 14:
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/

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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
Region 47: http://www.autostop.lt (Lithuanian)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) (No netscape)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
(Chinese)

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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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FIDONEWS MASTHEAD

Fidonews Staff:
Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, [email protected]
Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, [email protected]
Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, [email protected]
(Fido Via Internet Hubs column)
Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg,
Henk Wolsink

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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
and create the requisite chaos."
-Tom Jennings

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