F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 36 6 September 1999

F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 36 6 September 1999
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
Netmail Information Service .............................. 2
Z-snips: the Legacy of Star Wars ......................... 4
3. COLUMNS .................................................. 6
4. NOTICES .................................................. 8
Future History ........................................... 8
5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 9
6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,

Since Douglas Myers did a stand-in editor job while I was away,
I have given the job to him. Any complains? No, I knew you would
agree. ;-)

Doug will take over as from issue 38, or 20 September 1999.

Happy reading,

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ARTICLES
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Collin County Station's Netmail Information Service
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Welcome to "InfoMail"

Useing this program/service is very simple.

1. Enter a Netmail message to "InfoMail" without the quotes.
(capitalization isn't important) Fidonet address, 1:124/6308
You can send this "Routed" or "Crash". _ALL_ replies will be "Routed"

2. For a subject, put the document that you want to receive
If you don't know, or just want to search for a word in the list,
send the Netmail to "InfoMail Search" <sans quote> and put the word
you are looking for in the Subject area.

3. In the text area, put anything you like. This is ignored but
required for many mailers to handle the message.

Upon receiving the message, my system will search the document list
for a match and send the response back to you via a Netmail message.

Please let me know if there are errors. I'm only human and make
mistakes like anyone else. :-)

Here is a list of the documents we have available here;

? List of documents available
ARTSPEC FidoNews Article Submission Guidelines
BackBone North America BackBone Echolist
Backbone1 List of active echos, Zone 1 Backbone
Backboneww List of Echos carried on the World Wide Backbone
BackStat North American Backbone - Status and Changes
Backstat1 Change Status, Zone 1 Backbone
Backstatww World Wide Backbone Status and Changes
Big_Dummy ** THE BIG DUMMY'S GUIDE TO FIDONET **
DFWLIST The DFW BBs List
Fido_Ben_Baker Fidonet History according to Ben Baker
Fido_History_Pt1 FidoNet History and Operation (8 Feb 85) Tom
Jennings
Fido_History_Pt2 FidoNet History and Operation Part 2 (Tom Jennings)
Fidonet? What is Fidonet
Fidonews The Weekly Fido News
HUBGUIDE Net 124 HUB GUIDELINES
Internet_Point How to use your Point System with the Internet
Internet_to_Fido How gate E-Mail to and from Fidonet
Net106 BBs list for Net 106 (Houston, Tx. Area)
Net112 BBs list for Florida's_First_Coast_Net,
Jacksonville_FL
Net116 BBs list for Middle_Tennessee_Net,Nashville_TN
Net117 BBs list for Net 117 (Brazos Valley Area, Tx.)
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Net123 BBs list for Mid-South_Net,Memphis_TN
Net124 BBs list for Net 124 (Dallas, Tx.)
Net130 BBs list for Net 130 (Ft. Worth, Tx.)
Net133 BBs list for Atlanta_Net_NC,Tucker_GA
Net135 BBs list for South_Florida_Net,Miami_FL
Net137 BBs list for Florida_Suncoast_Net,Bradenton_FL
Net147 BBs list for Net 147 (OKC MetroNET, Ok.)
Net151 BBs list for NC_Net,Raleigh_NC
Net170 Bbs list for Net 170 (Tulsa Area, Ok.)
Net340 BBs list for South_Vancouver_Island,BC_Canada
Net342 BBs list for Central_Alberta,Edmonton_AB
Net343 BBs list for Lesser_Seattle_Opera,Seattle_WA
Net346 BBs list for Inland_Northwest_Fidonet,Spokane_WA
Net360 BBs list for Augusta_Net,Augusta_GA
Net3601 BBs list for Florida_Gator_Net,Gainesville_FL
Net3602 BBs list for Birmingham_Net,Birmingham_AL
Net3603 BBs list for PinellasNET_3603_Host,Pinellas_Park_FL
Net3607 BBs list for North_Alabama_Net,Cullman_AL
Net3608 BBs list for Panama_City_Net,Lynn_Haven_FL
Net3609 BBs list for Gator_Net,West_Palm_Beach_FL
Net361 BBs list for Florida_Independents_Net,Wausau_FL
Net3612 BBs list for Net_3612_Pensacola_FL,Pensacola_FL
Net3613 BBs list for Georgia-Alabama_Consolidated_Net,
Cusseta_Ga
Net3614 BBs list for Jacksonville_NC_Net,Jacksonville_NC
Net3615 BBs list for TN_Valley_Net,Knoxville_TN
Net3618 BBs list for West_Volusia_Fl_Net,Deltona_Fl
Net3619 BBs list for West_Pasco_Net,New_Port_Richey_FL
Net362 BBs list for Chatta-NET_METRO,Chattanooga_TN
Net3621 BBs list for Clarksville_Net,Woodlawn_TN
Net363 BBs list for Orlando_Data_Information_Network,
Orlando_FL
Net3632 BBs list for Jackson_Metro,Clinton_MS
Net3634 BBs list for Fayetteville_Net,Sanford_NC
Net3639 BBs list for Upstate_SC_Net,Greenville_SC
Net3648 BBs list for The_Central_Carolina_Network,
Asheboro_NC
Net365 BBs list for North_Central_Fla_Net,Ocala_FL
Net3651 BBs list for Pee_Dee_NET,Hartsville_SC
Net366 BBs list for NW_Florida,Ft_Walton_Beach_FL
Net3660 BBs list for Wayne_County_Net,Freemont_NC
Net3661 BBs list for Winston-Salem_NET,Winston-Salem_NC
Net3666 BBs list for NW_NC_NET,Hickory_NC
Net3667 BBs list for NC_Independents_NET3667_NC,Shelby_NC
Net369 BBs list for Treasure_Coast_Net,Coconut_Creek_FL
Net371 BBs list for SW_Florida_Coast_Net,Fort_Myers_FL
Net372 BBs list for Charleston_SC_Net,Charleston_SC
Net374 BBs list for Space_Coast_Net,Melbourne_FL
Net375 BBs list for Central_Alabama_Net,Montgomery_AL
Net376 BBs list for Cola_Net,Columbia_SC
Net377 BBs list for Tampa_Bay_Net,Tampa_Fl
Net379 BBs list for CHARLOTTE_AREA_NET,Pine_Harbor_NC
Net380 BBs list for Net 380 (S'port/Bossier Net, La.)
Net3800 BBs list for Net 3800 (Baton Rouge La)
Net3802 BBs list for Net 3802 (Victoria TX)
Net3803 BBs list for Net 3803 (Lafayette LA)
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Net3804 BBs list for Net 3804 (Lubbock TX)
Net3807 BBs List for Net 3807 (LakeArea Net,Westlake LA.)
Net381 BBs list for Net 381 (West Texas Net)
Net3812 BBs list for Net 3812 (Brazoria County Net,
Richwood TX)
Net382 BBs list for Net 382 (Capitol of Texas)
Net3821 BBs list for Net 3821 (Little Rock Metro,
Little Rock AR)
Net3828 BBs list for Net 3828 (Causeway North Net,Bush LA)
Net387 BBs list for Net 387 (San Antonio, Tx.)
Net388 BBs list for Net 388 (Heart of Texas, Waco)
Net393 BBs list for Net 393 (Denton, Tx.)
Net395 BBs list for Net 395 (Central Texas & Fort Hood)
Net396 BBs list for Net 396 (New Orleans Area, La.)
Net397 BBS list for Net 397 (South TX/Rio Grande Valley)
Net_info Net 124 Node Information File
Netstats Statistics from the Fidonet Nodelist
Satti Decisions made by Bob Satti as Z1C
StartBBs So you want to start a BBS?
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Z-snips: the Legacy of Star Wars
Douglas Myers 1:270/720

A while back, when the North American Backbone (NAB) was the
undisputed prime mover of mail in Zone 1, I reported and commented
on the upheavals of the Star systems of the NAB. Though the Star
Systems of that time are still prominent, new players on the scene
tend to call themselves Z-hubs now. The major storms which led to
the splintering of the NAB are still around, but they're spread
thinner among new players now. The Fidonews Weather Service has
downgraded these storms from "Star Wars" to "Z-snips."

Why are the Z-hubs snipping at each other these days? The answer is
most likely two-fold. 1) Fidonet is aptly nicknamed Fight-o-net in
that old hostilities never seem to die and new ones are constantly
discovered. 2) There are more problems with echomail distribution
than there were when the structure was more monolithic.

Leaving number 1 alone above, let's look at number 2: why are there
more problems? Mostly it's a matter of increased complexity in the
top level of distribution (Star distribution or Z-hub distribution).
The Star distribution until very recently was relatively simple:

A
/ \
B --- C

Three star systems polled each other frequently throughout the day,
and all other echomail feeds were derived from one of these systems
(at least ideally). The system had the advantage of rapid mail
delivery and no inherent problem with duplicates.
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Towards the end of 1998, however, a fourth star system was added to
the structure:

A
/ | \
B - + - C
\ | /
D

This seemed like a good idea at the time, as it incorporated the
Fidospine distribution system under the NAB system... it seemed just
recognition of a situation which already existed. However, it did
increase the complexity of the structure to the extent that all four
systems had to cooperate even more than before to ensure the smooth
flow of mail - and unwillingness to cooperate ultimately splintered
the NAB.

This system was susceptible to duplicate message generation if one
system decided to stop polling another system. To visualize this,
imagine that system A decides to disconnect system D. Before the
cut, system A would add system D's node number to the "seen-by"
control lines of each echomail message it would process for him
before sending it to him. The echomail processors at nodes B and C
would read the seen-by line before making mail packets, and not
include this message for system D. However, once system A cuts
system D and stops adding this number to the seen-by line, both
systems B and C will pack the message for system D, resulting in
duplicate messages at system D.

Though these duplicates were generated during the spats which
characterized the period right before the NAB splintered, virtually
all of them were detected by a cyclic redundancy check at the
systems getting these dupes, and few were passed on. So the problem
was more imagined than real, but it fueled the arguments over
non-technical issues (such as who was in charge) and ultimately led
to the withdrawal of systems from the NAB to start the Z1B.

The current issue rocking the tranquility of echomail distribution
seems to be an ongoing argument between John Souvestre and Alec
Grynspan. John has, in the recent past, disconnected from all NAB
Star systems except George Peace in an effort to prevent the
generation of duplicates. Alec has recently expanded his echomail
connections to span both the Z1B distribution and the NAB
distribution, effectively establishing a mesh which can lead to
duplicates. John has shown a portion of his logs which indicate
that at least one duplicate flowed through Alec's system. How
extensive the problem is truly is unknown to me, but the argument
itself has the potential for destabilization. It's reminiscent of
the arguments between John and Bob Seaborn before the splintering
of the NAB.

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COLUMNS
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Last Updated: 8/30/1999

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo
107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 | Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2613/404 | David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

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Zone 4
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c

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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks

Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, [email protected], and
complaints to [email protected] .

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NOTICES
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Future History

10 Sep 1999
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

FidoNet:

Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
Echomail [pending]
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
List servers:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org

Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm

Net 264: http://www.net264.org/

Region 14:

Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/

Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/

Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19

Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/

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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org

Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido (English/German)

Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)

Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)

Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)

Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/

Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

Region 42: http://www.fido.cz

Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

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Zone 4:

Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org

Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

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Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

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