F I D O N E W S -- Volume 14, Number 47 24 November 1997

F I D O N E W S -- Volume 14, Number 47 24 November 1997
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING and assorted HARVEST FESTIVALS!

Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
Gobble, gobble! .......................................... 1
2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
FTSC Administrator Vote results .......................... 2
How far from Ontario to Malaysia? ........................ 3
Needs an email link at Fordham ........................... 4
Echomail defamation? ..................................... 4
Ex-ZEC2 confirms leaving FidoNet ......................... 5
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 7
Newly-available Echoes ................................... 7
4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 8
Goofing with Excel? ...................................... 8
5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 9
Happy Thanksgiving! ...................................... 9
6. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 11
Announcing the WRESTLING_CHAT Echo ....................... 11
7. NOTICES .................................................. 12
Future History ........................................... 12
8. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 13
Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 13
9. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 17
FidoNews PGP public-key listing .......................... 17
10. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 18
11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 20
FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 1 24 Nov 1997

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EDITORIAL
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Here in the U.S.A., it's about to be Thanksgiving Day [Thursday, 27
Nov] when we get together with family and food to celebrate the fact
we're still alive and eating. [snicker]

Turkeys are the primary victims of our carnivorous tendencies but
it varies from place to place and sub-culture to sub-culture. Hams,
pork roasts, beef roasts, vegetarian fare, and all sorts of other
comestibles made only once or twice a year can come to the fore. At my
house, there'll be plenty of the top two [turkey & ham] along with
tons of accouterment and then the major dessert table covered with
pies of every description.

In FidoNet, we can only eat our words while looking at ASCII pictures
of traditional symbols.

Following in the footsteps of last week's cyberHugs, let's give thanks
to everyone who works, without reward, to make FidoNet function
every day.

Thanks, to ALL Coordinators. Thanks, to all mail hubs. Thanks, to all
file movers. Thanks, to all the software authors. Thanks, to all
HelpNodes. Thanks, to ALL Sysops who make this the first and largest
amateur electronic communication network in the world.

Cooperation...What a concept!

C.B.

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FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 2 24 Nov 1997

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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--- Following message extracted from FTSC_PUBLIC @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Sun Nov 23 20:09:02 1997

From: Ken Tuley
To: all
Date: 22 Nov 97 20:40:00
Subj: FTSC Administrator election results

Here are the results of the voting for FTSC Administrator:

Craig Box 3 (20%)
Odinn Sorensen 12 (80%)
Abstentions 1

Odinn Sorensen is declared the winner.

Passwords voting for Craig Box (3:774/950):
BLUE5491
urbanhymn
FIDOFREEDOM

Passwords voting for Odinn Sorensen (2:2613/477):
DuGnoU
DNISNOLONGERTHETRUECHAIRPERSON
56_down_64_to_go
moonlightshadow
ENTOVERSE
grade
BOROMIR
fnord
LovelyEva
ALPHA
amscray
SlaveToTheGrind

Passwords voting to abstain:
Goran_Eriksson

Although I was originally advised by Adrian Walker when I agreed to
accept and count the votes that posting the list of voters would not
be necessary, I will post that list if I am requested to do so by any
member of the committee.

-=ken=-

---
* Origin: SCAM (1:374/98)

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--- Following message extracted from FIDONEWS @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Sun Nov 23 20:08:34 1997

From: Rich Veraa
To: Christopher Baker
Date: 20 Nov 97 08:29:35
Subj: Unsolved Mysteries

Host,163,Ottawa_163,Ottawa_ON,Christine_Labonte,1-613-742-
7612,9600,XA,CM,V42b, V32b
,99,Cause_Cheap_Is_How_I_Feel,Ottawa_ON,Dave_Beach,1-819-685-
1610,9600,CM,XA, V32b,V42b,V34,VFC,UNEC
Hub,100,Acoustic_Plains,Ottawa_ON,Steve_Fredette,1-613-742-
7612,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b
,105,Club_Las_Velas,Ottawa_ON,Dave_Fleming,1-613-728-
7050,9600,CM,XA,H16,V34, VFC,V32b,V42b,V32T
,107,Reptile_Ranch,Perth_ON,Terry_O'Hearn,1-613-264-
8513,9600,XA,CM,H16,V32b, V32t,V34,V42b,VFC
Pvt,108,Mau's_Hole,Ottawa_ON,Allan_Mau,-Unpublished-,2400,
,109,Smurfs_In_Rage_BBS,Ottawa_ON,Mike_Militia,1-613-744-
4983,9600,CM,XA,V32B, V42b,MNP
,111,The_Apartment_Size_BBS,Ottawa_ON,Deryl_Charlebois,1-613-820-
4270,9600,CM, XA,V32B,V42,V34
,113,Murphys_Law,Gatineau_PQ,Jim_Murphy,1-819-669-
2392,9600,CM,XX,V32b,V42b
,114,Myles'_Games_Extraviganza,Ottawa_On,Myles_Bunbury,1-613-234-
0975,9600,XA, CM,V32B,V42B
,115,Glow_In_The_Dark,Ottawa_ON,Gerry_Dowe,1-613-820-
6020,9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B, V34,VFC,V32T
,117,The_Offspring_BBS,Orleans_ON,Perry_Smith,1-613-834-
8587,9600,CM,XR,V34, V32b,V42b
,118,Kings_Knights,Ottawa_ON,Perry_Davis,1-613-728-
4122,9600,XA,CM,V34,VFC, V32b,V42b
,119,Liar's_Club,Cumberland_ON,Gerry_Goulet,1-613-833-
0672,9600,XA,CM,H16,VFC, V34,V32T,V32b,V42b
,120,The_Land_of_ID,Glocester_ON,Ian_Porter,1-613-731-
1544,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b ,121,A.C.E.,Vanier_ON,Jean_Emmell,1-613-741-
0630,9600,XA,CM,VFC,V34,V32b,V42b
,122,Twisted_Nastiness,Ottawa_ON,Jim_Sorofty,1-613-823-
6670,9600,CM,XA,V32b, V42b
,125,Beatitudes,Gloucester_ON,Gary_Cassidy,1-613-834-
2054,9600,XA,CM,V32b,V34, V42b
,126,C.U.B.E.,Ottawa_ON,Glenn_Verrall,1-613-728-
8136,9600,XA,CM,V32b,V42b ,127,Pig_Pen,Nepean_ON,Frank_Sexton,1-613-
723-9591,9600,XA,CM,V32b,V42b
,133,872's_Home_BBS,Kanata_ON,Rob_St._Denis,1-613-831-
3390,9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B
,134,Valley_of_Wind,Kuala_Lumpur_MALAYSIA,Maulvi_Bakar,60-3-712-
5570,9600,V34, V32b,V42b,ZYX,MNP,CM,XA
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
,136,No_Files,Ottawa_ON,Fred_Ennis,1-613-723-5712,9600,XX,CM,V32b,V42b

Does anyone know howcome a net in Ontario lists a node in Malasia?

Cheers,
Rich
FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 4 24 Nov 1997

http://www.netside.net/~rveraa/
* Origin: Birdsoft - North Miami (1:135/907)

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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:00:33 -0500
From: "Nicholas D. Lombardi, S.J." <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Mailed from FidoNews homepage

Hi,
My name is Nick Lombardi and I've been running a Fidonet board here
in NYC since the mid-80's. I've haven't been keeping up with what's
been reported in Fidonet for a couple of years almost - but I'd like
to know how I can find a gateway to connect my board to the internet
for a simple EMAIL connection. Is there any gateway left around?
Ours in this area went down a while ago.

My Email address is: [email protected]
I'm a Jesuit priest teaching Computer Science here at Fordham
University. Thanks for any leads you can give me.

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[high ASCII removed without regard to translation. Ed.]

[I refer this guy's request for info to you. Ed.]

From: "Piotr Kosibowicz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: How to defend against defaming in a public conference?
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:01:04 +0100

Dear Chris

I am writing for the advice how to force a fidouser to send an apology
note to a Polish conference BUY_SELL.POL.

Maksymilian Wrzesinski (2:480/80) named me a thief in this conference
just because he is ignorant about a trial subscriptions of Business
Central Europe and European Voice and some computer magazines about
which I spread a word in Net under the subject: "free computer
magazines"

I need to know this before I will take a legal action in Polish court.

Below is his letter in extenso and the mentioned offending word i
underlined.

Please send advice, comments or the way how he could turn back this
offence because the court action could be damaging for him due to huge
costs.
FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 5 24 Nov 1997

Regards, Piotr Kosibowicz

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
tel: +48 012 4155974 Propaganda, POB 12, Kr. 42, PL
http://www.webspawner.com/users/propaga/ Fax: +49-2561-91316-06849
Czy Chrystus siedzacy na osle, jest czescia osla, czy tez osiol
czescia Chrystusa?

- BUY_SELL.POL (2:486/10.26) ------------------------------------
BUY_SELL.POL
Msg : #10580 [1612] +10609 Rcv
From : Maksymilian Wrzesinski 2:480/80 16 Nov 97 13:38:33
To : Piotr Kosibowicz 21 Nov 97 10:09:17
Subj : Re: Darmowe Pisma Komputerowe
-1298-----------------------------------------------------------------
MG>> + Origin: Brakuje mi kogos takiego jak ja... (2:480/80.101)
PK> nieycz sobie jakichkolwiek kontaktw z tob - bo ju kilka razy
PK> dales si pozna jako skoczony idiota, a potem jeszcze mnie
PK> przpraszae. Nie sigasz mi do pit dupku i id lepiej obraaj a
PK> potem przepraszaj sobie rwne Miernoty.

i kto to mowi? kosibowitz - znany kretacz i kombinator. czyli
mowiac krotko zlodziej.
^^^^^^^^^^^
twoje listy z newsgroup inetowych sa po prostu zenujace. poziom
lamerii i bezprecedensowego cwaniactwa bija na glowe najwiekszych
kretynow.

--
-- [mcson] -- maksymilian maria wrzesinski -- terrorgarden inc. --
-- +48-22-648-55-88 -- http://terrorgarden.waw.pl -- from ashes to
ashes --

--- TeRRoRGaRDeN Inc.
* Origin: ,, ...from ashes to ashes... '' (2:480/80)

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From: Steve Woodmore <[email protected]>
To: Christopher Baker <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: have your retired again?
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:38:52 GMT
Organization: The Worlds Fastest Talker
Reply-To: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]>

On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:08:03 -0500, you wrote:

CB>again for the last time? [grin]

FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 6 24 Nov 1997

No this time its for good (check the nodelist)

CB>what pushed you over the edge this time?

The same old thing, every time you try and achieve something, there
are always people being destructive and disruptive.

I would like fido to have moved forward into the next millennium,
however the "fidodinosaurs" don't seem to want it.

Its a pity, but there you go what can i do?, i tried, i failed :(,
time to cut my losses and move onto more challenging and productive
projects, and yes you have my permission to print this in fidonews

Come and visit the worlds fastest talker
If you thought you could talk fast, then you are wrong
As featured in the
1990,1991,1992,1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 Guinness Book of
WORLD records
Check it out
http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/talk.htm

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FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 7 24 Nov 1997

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ARTICLES
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Newly-available Echoes
Damian Walker, 2:2502/666

The following echoes are now available to international readers via
the internet:

STRATEGY For strategy and war games,
ASTROWAR_UK The international support echo for the Astrowar game,
INFOMAIL The Infomail support echo

You can now get these echoes from Sy Hughes at Gold Flash BBS,
2:254/510, using Fido2Int. Details about all of these echoes are
available in the ELIST and the zone 2 echolist. Please do join us!

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NET HUMOR
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:06:49 -0500
To: [email protected]
From: Doug Paul <[email protected]>
Subject: Anyone ever try this?

>Return-Path: [email protected]
>From: "Val Valek" <[email protected]>

1. Open Excel for Windows 95 with a blank worksheet.
2. Scroll down to row 95.
3. Click on the number 95 to select the whole row.
4. Press Tab once to move to column B.
5. Select Help/About.
6. Hold down Ctrl+Alt+Shift and click on the Tech Support button.
7. A window labeled Hall of Tortured Souls appears. It is a 3-D
texture-mapped environment reminiscent of Doom/DukeNukeEm/etc.
8. Directly ahead of you are stairs with a scrolling cast list. Go up
and take a look around. Use the cursor keys to move, and 'd' or
'c' to look up or down.
9. But there's more! Go back down the stairs and type "excelkfa"
(without the quotes).
10. The wall disappears [it's the rear wall], and there's a winding
path to navigate to see pictures.

Tread carefully!
===========================================
Doug Paul [email protected]
Rockledge, Florida
http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/6994
===========================================
I am Dyslexic of Borg...prepare to have your ass laminated!
===========================================
Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch 5, Subch 2, _227,
unsolicited commercial Email received at this address
is subject to a US $500 download and archival fee.
By Emailing such, you agree to these terms.
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FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 9 24 Nov 1997

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COMIX IN ASCII
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[from TurkeyDays past...one raw, one cooked. [grin] Ed.]

Date: 24 Nov 94 14:44:06
From: [email protected]
To: All
Subj: Happy Thanksgiving!
______________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 17:44:06 -0500 (EST)
From: PNEWS <[email protected]>

[*********PNEWS CONFERENCES************]

From: [email protected]

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HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Ribaud

---
Origin: Usenet: (1:343/70)

***

Date: 23 Nov 95 18:57:07
From: Tom Mckeever
To: All
Subj: 'Appy 'Oliday!
______________________________________________________________________

FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 10 24 Nov 1997

Greetings, All!!

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H A P P Y T H A N K S G I V I N G

From the MCKEEVER Family!!!!

Take care!!

Tom..
([email protected])
([email protected])
SPACECON/BRAVEHEART BBS (1:374/22)
(407) 459-0969 452-8969 453-5393 (1200-28800 Baud)
(Home of INFOLOG, OTVIEW, & POST_POLIO and CARDIAC Echoes!!)

Origin: SPACECON Medical/Disabilities/Law Enforcement BBS!(1:374/22.0)

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ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
=================================================================

Emanuel Edwards
1:348/963
[email protected]

IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL SYSOPS!!!!!!

Hello all Sysops and Co_Sysops:

If you want to get lots of User on your BBS I suggest you request the
WRESTLING_CHAT on your BBS:

On the wrestling_chat you can get all the Latest News, great wrestling
scoops and great wrestling advertisement. Plus there are professional
wrestlers reading the messages and posting messages on the echo. The
echo tag is called WRESTLING_CHAT.

If and when you request the echo on your bbs please send a test
message to the moderator Emanuel Edwards. See you all sysops and
co_sysops on fidonet WRESTLING_CHAT

You can also visit my wrestling news bulletin homepage at
http://www.pangea.ca/~emanuel/latest.html

Regards

Emanuel Moderator
Barry Laws Jr Co_Moderator

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NOTICES
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Future History

1 Dec 1997
World AIDS Day.

10 Dec 1997
Nobel Day, Sweden.

12 Jan 1998
HAL 9000 is one year old today.

30 Apr 1998
Queens Day, Holland.

22 May 1998
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.

14 Sep 1998
Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

22 Sep 1998
First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

1 Dec 1998
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
Tom Jennings.

24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 13 24 Nov 1997

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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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[from 1446]

Latest Greatest Software Versions
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264

Hmm. Not much to say.

-=- Snip -=-

Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column

OS Platform :
Software package name :
Version :
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
Author / Support staff contact name :
Author / Support staff contact node :
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :

Please include a sentence describing what the package does.

Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264

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MS-DOS:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
ALLFIX 4.40 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
Announcer 1.11 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
FastEcho/16 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FEX
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 14 24 Nov 1997

Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD
NorthStar 3.31.29 B S A&B Darin 1:285/82 NSTAR
Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
Searchlight 4.5 B S Paul Casey 1:343/117 DEMO450.ZIP
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
Silver Xpress
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
Terminate 5.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS

OS/2:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ALLFIX/2 1.10 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST
FleetStreet 1.21 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
FP-OS/2 97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow 323/107 FPOS2
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP
Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF
PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2

Windows (16-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW

Windows (32-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Argus 95/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 A9I
Argus NT/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ANI
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_W32
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
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Unix:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ifmail 2.12 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
ifmail-tx ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK

Amiga:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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CrashMail 1.23 T X Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHMAIL
CrashTick 1.1 O F Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHTICK
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
2:310/6 TRAPDOOR
TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS

Atari:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC
JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA

Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
be listed by the first match.

Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source

Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264

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File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] or download it from the
Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 anytime except 0100-0130 ET and Zone
1 ZMH at 1200-9600+ HST/V32B. The FidoNews key is also available on
the FidoNews homepage listed in the Masthead information.

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FIDONET BY INTERNET
=================================================================

This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
of this appearance.

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FidoNet:

Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html
HTML FNews http://www.fidonews.org
WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
FTSC page http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/ftsc/ftscmirr.htm
Echomail http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html

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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org

Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

Region 13: http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm

Region 14: [disappeared?]

Region 15: [disappeared?]

Region 16: http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm

Region 17: http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
REC17: http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/

Region 18: http://www.citicom.com/fido.html

Region 19: http://www.compconn.net

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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org

ZEC2: http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/

Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)

Region 25:
http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254

FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 19 24 Nov 1997

Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (in French)

Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (in Swiss)

Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)

Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (in Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr

Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)

Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl

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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

============

Zone 4: (not yet listed)

Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)

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Zone 5: http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org

Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)

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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
=================================================================

------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

Editor: Christopher Baker

Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees

"FidoNews Editor"
FidoNet 1:1/23
BBS 1-904-409-7040, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(ds)

more addresses:
Christopher Baker -- 1:18/14, [email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 471
Edgewater, FL 32132-0471
U.S.A.

voice: 1-904-409-3040 [1400-2100 ET only, please]
[1800-0100 UTC/GMT]

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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
FidoNews.

Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
Copyright 1997 Christopher Baker. All rights reserved. Duplication
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
the Editor.

=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=

OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 21 24 Nov 1997

back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSEnn.ZIP] for a
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
current year [7], i.e., FNWSAUG7.ZIP for all the Issues from Aug 97.

Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
1 - 14 for 1984 - 1997, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
size from 48K to 1.4M.

INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:

http://www.fidonews.org
http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/

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You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:

[email protected]

with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist

and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the email
distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist with no
message to the same address above.

*

You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
by sending email to:

[email protected]

with a Subject line of: help

and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
www.fidonews.org.

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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

http://www.fidonews.org

STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:

ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/

Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 11 Megs.
FIDONEWS 14-47 Page 22 24 Nov 1997

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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
available almost immediately after publication on the Editor's new
homepage on the World Wide Web at:

http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html

There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.

=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=

A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
1:1/23 [1:18/14] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area 18. It
is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.

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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.

"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
and are used with permission.

"Disagreement is actually necessary,
or we'd all have to get in fights
or something to amuse ourselves
and create the requisite chaos."
-Tom Jennings

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