F I D O N E W S --       Volume 14, Number 41          13 October 1997
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              How about those FLORIDA MARLINS?!!


                       Table of Contents
    1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
       Do they watch American baseball outside of Zone 1?  .......  1
    2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR  ....................................  2
       MSGID bug  ................................................  2
       Expiring in the EList  ....................................  2
       More probs  ...............................................  3
    3. ARTICLES  .................................................  5
       FTSC Administrator - NOTICE OF NOMINATIONS  ...............  5
    4. COLUMNS  ..................................................  7
       Fidonet in Europe  ........................................  7
    5. COMIX IN ASCII  ...........................................  8
       Does Spam exist in FidoNet?  ..............................  8
    6. NOTICES  ..................................................  9
       Future History  ...........................................  9
    7. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................................. 10
       Latest Greatest Software Versions  ........................ 10
    8. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY  ...................................... 14
       FidoNews PGP public-key listing  .......................... 14
    9. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 15
    10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 17
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                                EDITORIAL
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    Not much new going on. Zone 4 DID get a new ZC. I saw it in the
    Nodediff on Friday but nobody bothered to let FidoNews know so it
    could be passed on the easy way. Maybe neither the past or the new
    ZC4 ever heard of FidoNews?

    So, I'll tell you that ZC4 is now:

      Alejandro Alvarez at 4:900/309 in or around Buenos Aires in
      Argentina.

    From his listings, it appears he also an RC and an NC which is a lot
    of hats if you have more than 20 Nodes in your Region or Net but that
    is just speculation since no official notice has been forthcoming.

    One can only hope this ZC4 will be more responsive than the last ZC4.
    Congratulations [or commiserations as appropriate], Alejandro! Feel
    free to use FidoNews to tell us everything. [grin]

    And on a completely irrelevant note, are the FLorida Marlins going to
    the World Series against the Cleveland Indians? [remember, you heard
    it here first.] [grin]

    For those who participate in the semi-annual stupidity, it's only TWO
    weeks until Daylight Savings Time ends and normal time resumes. Mark
    your calendars!

    For those of you with FidoNet-related websites or webpages, be sure to
    sign-up for the FidoNet WorldWide Webring. The URL is in the Masthead.

    C.B.

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                          LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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    --- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
        By Christopher Baker on Sun Oct 12 18:54:34 1997

    From: John Souvestre @ 1:396/1
    To: Christopher Baker @ 1:18/14
    Date: 07 Oct 97  10:57:14
    Subj: MSGID bug

     MSGID: 1:396/1 343a5c28

     * Original to PCB'ers at 1:396/1 in "Sou_Star"
     * Forwarded Tue Oct 07 1997  10:59:04 by John Souvestre at 1:396/1

    Hello Chris.

    Feel free to print.  :-)

    ===

    Hi all.

    This bug seems to show up every so often.  So here's a reminder...

    A MSGID without the system ID field is illegal.  PCBoard is notorious
    for doing this!  It is a bug which they have been aware of for years
    but have failed to fix.  Here is a note from a PCB SysOp who found out
    how to force it to work.

    ===

     J> Your system is generating MSGIDs which are not legal.  They
     J> contain a MSGID value (32 bit hex number) but no system of origin
     J> info.

     D> Got to digging into the configuration, and found a place to set
     D> the 'Default AKA Conference Range'.  Since I only have one
     D> address, I figured 'who needs that, there's only one 'AKA' to
     D> chose, it must be the default?'  Turns out I did, I plugged my
     D> node number in there and now the MSGID is right.

    ===

    John

     -30-

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    Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:44:18 -0700
    From: William Scott Lockwood III <[email protected]>
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Organization: Corpsmans Corner BBS
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    To: Adrian Walker <[email protected]>
    CC: Brenda Donovan <[email protected]>, Brent Hamm
            <[email protected]>, Christopher Baker <[email protected]>,
            Roy Witt <[email protected]>
    Subject: Robot Problems

    Adrian,

      I have noticed with dismay that despite being updated several times
    lately, REAL_FREE_SPEECH is in the expiring list!  Why is that?  I
    have also noted that CABLE_MODEMS, despite jumping through all the
    appropriate hoops, and being requested by 3 REC's is still not listed!
    Can you explain this?

    Also, I tried to Elist several expired listings lately.  All of my
    requests failed, but I note with great interest that others (many of
    them not the former moderators of record) have been able to e-list
    them.  When I asked you about this, all you told me was to read BOFAQ,
    which basically said wait until after the listing expires.  Why do my
    requests to E-list things bounce, but others do not?  Enquiring minds
    want to know...

    Chris:  Please publish this so that others in FidoNet will know to
    check their echo's listings, to ensure they are not having similar
    trouble.

    --
    TTYL,
    Scott
    mailto:[email protected]
    http://www.users.cts.com/king/w/wsl3/

     -30-






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    Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:59:10 -0700
    From: William Scott Lockwood III <[email protected]>
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Organization: Corpsmans Corner BBS
    To: Adrian Walker <[email protected]>
    CC: Christopher Baker <[email protected]>
    Subject: I'm SORRY!
    References: <[email protected]>

    > Do you just send messages for the sheer enjoyment of making work for
    > people, or do you ever bother to check your facts first?  Can *you*
    > explain that?!

    What would you like me to explain?  What I've seen (0 traffic for
    instance, and no indication that it was there before today) has led me
    FIDONEWS 14-41               Page 4                   13 Oct 1997


    to beleave that it was being held somehow.  If I am in error, I am
    sorry.  I know you don't beleave that, but there it is, none the less.

    After your last netmail to me, I figgured you just had it in for me
    like your buddy Bodger.

    > Check BACKBONE.NA.

    Funny you should mention that.  I still haven't seen it.  I'll look
    around on the net for another copy, and see if I have a local problem.
    I'm sorry for any inconvienance.

    > Ever heard of a password?  If it is not your listing, you are not
    > entitled to it.  Talk to Counsil, Queen and Lewis - there's been a
    > war on between them for echoes.  I've sent them the logs.

    I'm not trying to be obtuse, but this made no sence to me.  If an echo
    has gone 6 months without being listed, it's fair game right?

    > BTW, people who think that publication of the Elist is a mindless
    > automated activity which occurs on the stroke of midnight on the
    > first of each month have evidently never done a stitch of work for
    > Fidonet.  It is a time-consuming 2 hour marathon of batch files and
    > file checking, largely done manually.

    Hmmm.  Okay, why not code that function?  I'm new to C programming,
    but if I could be of any help, I'd be happy to be.  I'm looking for
    something to work on right now anyway, to sharpen my skills.

    > As a result it gets done when I have time.  That may be several
    > days after the 1st of the month.

    You know, if you just said these things in the first place, there'd be
    a lot less confusion.

    > You'll always know when passwords have been purged because you will
    > have received the new Elist.

    What am I misreading then?  It seemed to me that all the echo's I
    wanted HAD been de-listed already.

    Chris - please post this WITH my other one.
    --
    TTYL,
    Scott
    mailto:[email protected]
    http://www.users.cts.com/king/w/wsl3/

     -30-

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                                ARTICLES
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                    ========================================
                    NOTICE OF FTSC ADMINISTRATOR NOMINATIONS
                    ========================================

    by Adrian Walker, 1:153/752
    06 October 1997

                                   ==========
                                   BACKGROUND
                                   ==========

    From 01 December 1996 until 24 March 1997, discussion in the
    FTSC_PUBLIC echo defined the mission and operating procedures for a
    revitalized Fidonet Technical Standards Committee (FTSC), ending in
    the publication of two new documents, FTA-1000 (FTSC Charter) and
    FTA-1001 (FTSC Operations).

    From 24 March until 01 August 1997, nominations were accepted for FTSC
    Standing Members from RCs and RECs throughout Fidonet.  From 16 August
    until 05 September 1997, the RCs and RECs voted, and 24 Standing
    Members were elected.

    Since then, the Standing Members have been linked to the FTSC echo,
    and Working Groups are being set up to address revision of the
    existing Fidonet Technical Standards.

    The final step is to elect the FTSC Administrator, at which point the
    FTSC becomes fully operational.  The duties of the administrator are
    published in FTA-1001.

                                   ===========
                                   NOMINATIONS
                                   ===========

    The following extract from FTA-1001 describes the nomination and
    voting process:

         The FTSC administrator is appointed for a four year renewable
         term.

         To be eligible for appointment, an individual must be a Fidonet
         node, be actively involved in Fidonet, though not necessarily in
         a programming context, and should have proven organizational
         skills. A candidate need not be a member of the FTSC.  It is
         recommended that a successful candidate not carry any *C or *EC
         responsibilities during the term of office.

         A candidate for FTSC Administrator may be nominated by any
         Standing Member.

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         The FTSC Administrator is appointed on the basis of a vote by all
         Standing Members who are defined by the then-current edition of
         FTA-0003 (FTSC Membership List).  A successful candidate must
         receive approval by at least a plurality of votes.

         Publication of the nominations and the voting procedure shall
         take place openly in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo, and voting shall close
         three weeks after publication of the vote.  Votes shall be by
         netmail ballot to an independent enumerator.

         [Plurality as defined in FTA-1001:
         More votes than any other candidate, but less than a majority]

                               ===============
                               ACTION REQUIRED
                               ===============

    Effective immediately, any FTSC Standing Member may nominate a person
    for the position of FTSC Administrator, such nominations to be posted
    in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo.  Nominations close at 2359 UTC on Monday 27
    October 1997.

    At that time a list of all applicants having been properly nominated
    will be published in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo, and the voting process as
    defined above will then be followed.

    Barring unforeseen delays, it is anticipated that voting will commence
    at 0000 UTC on Friday 31 October 1997 and close at 2359 UTC on Friday
    21 November 1997.

                               ---OOO000OOO---

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                                 COLUMNS
    =================================================================

    Fidonet in Europe
    -----------------
    by David Meikle (2:259/69.2 , [email protected])

    Not much happening in Europe just now. Apart from Astrowars starts on
    the 18th of October.

    Dave

    P.S. Vist www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/way/8351

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                             COMIX IN ASCII
    =================================================================

    --- Following message extracted from ASCII_ART @ 1:18/14 ---
        By Christopher Baker on Sat Oct 11 02:51:13 1997

    From: Alex Kemp
    To: SB Perelman
    Date: 09 Oct 97  21:19:29
    Subj: ASCII_ART Gallery Rules: 10-08-97

    SB Perelman stepped onto something squelchy to All 's amusement...

     SP>  The Don't's:
     SP>  @  NO SPAM

                     ==========================================
                     | ,dP""8a "888888b,  d8b    "888b  ,888" |
                     | 88b   "  888  d88 dPY8b    88Y8b,8888  |
                     | `"Y8888a 888ad8P'dPaaY8b   88 Y88P888  |
                     | a,   Y88 888    dP    Y8b  88  YP 888  |
                     | `"8ad8P'a888a  a88a;*a888aa88a   a888a |
                     |                ;*;;;;*;;;*;;;*,,       |
                     |        _,-+-'':::';*;;;*;;;*;;*d;,     |
                     |     .-'      ::::::::::';*;;*;dII;     |
                     |   .' ,<<<,.  :::::::::::::::ffffff`.   |
                     |  / ,<<<<<<<<,::::::::::::::::fffffI,\  |
                     | .,<<<<<<<<<<I;:::::::::::::::ffffKIP", |
                     | |<<<<<<<<<<dP;,?>;,::::::::::fffKKIP | |
                     | ``<<<<<<<dP;;;;;\>>>>>;,::::fffKKIPf ' |
                     |  \ `mYMMV?;;;;;;;\>>>>>>>>>,YIIPP"` /  |
                     |   `. "":;;;;;;;;;i>>>>>>>>>>>>>,  ,'   |
                     |     `-._``":;;;sP'`"?>>>>>========.    |
                     |         `-+-..._______...| Hormel |    |
                     |                          `========'    |
                     ==========================================

    Sorry, couldn't resist posting this olde :)

      __ _   _    ___  __  __
     / _` | | |  / _ \ \ \/ /  Internet : [email protected]
    | (_| | | | |  __/  >  <    Fidonet : 2:254/60.6
     \__,_| |_|  \___| /_/\_\             2:254/211.16
    ...WARNING!  This PC is protected by a ferret with a black belt in
    Karate

    Origin: You mean you're NOT fixed into LandRover_UK ??? (2:254/60.6)

     -30-




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                                 NOTICES
    =================================================================

                               Future History

     1 Dec 1997
       World AIDS Day.

    10 Dec 1997
       Nobel Day, Sweden.

    12 Jan 1998
       HAL 9000 is one year old today.

    30 Apr 1998
       Queens Day, Holland.

    22 May 1998
       Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.

    14 Sep 1998
       Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

    22 Sep 1998
       First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

     1 Dec 1998
       Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
       Tom Jennings.

    24 Jul 1999
       XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

    31 Dec 1999
       Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

     1 Jan 2000
       The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

     1 Jun 2000
       EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

    15 Sep 2000
       Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

     1 Jan 2001
       This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

    -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
       Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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    =================================================================
                        FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
    =================================================================

    [from 1439. Ed.]

    Latest Greatest Software Versions
    by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264

    Websites of interest:

            BinkleyTerm-XE  - http://www.cc86.org/~btxe/
            Searchlight BBS - http://www.searchlight.com

    -=- Snip -=-

    Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column

    OS Platform                             :
    Software package name                   :
    Version                                 :
    Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
    Freeware / Shareware / Commercial?      :
    Author / Support staff contact name     :
    Author / Support staff contact node     :
    Magic name (at the above-listed node)   :

    Please include a sentence describing what the package does.

    Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264

    -=- Snip -=-

    MS-DOS:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Act-Up         4.6      G D Chris Gunn        1:15/55     ACT-UP
    ALLFIX         4.40     T S Harald Harms      2:281/415   ALLFIX
    Announcer      1.11     O S Peter Karlsson    2:206/221   ANNOUNCE
    BGFAX          1.60     O S B.J. Guillot      1:106/400   BGFAX
    Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOS_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_DOS
    CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
    CheckPnt       1.0a     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     CHECKPNT
    FastEcho       1.45a    T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FASTECHO
    FastEcho/16    1.45a    T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FE16
    FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLSTD
    FidoBBS (tm)   12u      B S Ray Brown         1:1/117     FILES
    FrontDoor      2.12     M S JoHo              2:201/330   FD
    FrontDoor      2.20c    M C JoHo              2:201/330   FDINFO
    GEcho          1.00     T S Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GEcho/Plus     1.11     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GEcho/Pro      1.20     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GIGO           07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler      1:1/141     INFO
    GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GED
    FIDONEWS 14-41               Page 11                  13 Oct 1997


    GoldED/386     2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEX
    GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
    GoldNODE       2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEN
    Imail          1.75     T S Michael McCabe    1:1/121     IMAIL
    ImCrypt        1.04     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     IMCRYPT
    InfoMail/86    1.21     O F Damian Walker     2:2502/666  INFOMAIL
    InfoMail/386   1.21     O F Damian Walker     2:2502/666  INFO386
    InterEcho      1.19     T C Peter Stewart     1:369/35    IEDEMO
    InterMail      2.29k    M C Peter Stewart     1:369/35    IMDEMO
    InterPCB       1.52     O S Peter Stewart     1:369/35    INTERPCB
    IPNet          1.11     O S Michele Stewart   1:369/21    IPNET
    JD's CBV       1.4      O S John Dailey       1:363/277   CBV
    Jelly-Bean     1.01     T S Rowan Crowe       3:635/727   JELLY
    Jelly-Bean/386 1.01     T S Rowan Crowe       3:635/727   JELLY386
    JMail-Hudson   2.81     T S Jason Steck       1:285/424   JMAIL-H
    JMail-Goldbase 2.81     T S Jason Steck       1:285/424   JMAIL-G
    MakePl         1.9      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     MAKEPL
    Marena         1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     MARENA
    Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAX
    Max User Ed.   0.18     O F Larry Cooke       1:300/53    MUE
    McMail         1.0      M S Michael McCabe    1:1/148     MCMAIL
    MDNDP          1.18     N S Bill Doyle        1:388/7     MDNDP
    Msged          4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41D.ZIP
    Msged/386      4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41X.ZIP
    NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEFD
    NorthStar      3.31.29  B S A&B Darin         1:285/82    NSTAR
    Opus CBCS      1.79     B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14    OPUS
    O/T-Track      2.66     O S Peter Hampf       2:241/1090  OT
    PcMerge        2.8      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     PCMERGE
    PlatinumXpress 1.3      M C Gary Petersen     1:290/111   PX13TD.ZIP
    QuickBBS       2.81     B S Ben Schollnick    1:2613/477  QUICKBBS
    RAR            2.01     C S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    RAR
    RemoteAccess   2.50     B S Mark Lewis        1:3634/12   RA
    Searchlight    4.5      B S Paul Casey        1:343/117   DEMO450.ZIP
    Searchlight    5.02     B C Paul Casey        1:343/117   SLBBS50.TXT
    Silver Xpress
      Door         5.4      O S Gary Petersen     1:290/111   FILES
      Reader       4.4      O S Gary Petersen     1:290/111   SXR44.ZIP
    Spitfire       3.51     B S Mike Weaver       1:3670/3    SPITFIRE
    Squish         1.11     T P Tech              1:249/106   SQUISH
    StealTag UK    1.c...   O F Fred Schenk       2:284/412   STEAL_UK
    StealTag NL    1.c...   O F Fred Schenk       2:284/412   STEAL_NL
    T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAIL
    Telegard       3.02     B F Tim Strike        1:259/423   TELEGARD
    Terminate      5.00     O S Bo Bendtsen       2:254/261   TERMINATE
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
    TosScan        1.01     T C JoHo              2:201/330   TSINFO
    TransNet       1.00     G S Marc S. Ressl     4:904/72    TN100ALL.ZIP
    TriBBS         11.0     B S Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRIBBS
    TriDog         11.0     T F Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRIDOG
    TriToss        11.0     T S Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRITOSS
    WaterGate      0.93     G S Robert Szarka     1:320/42    WTRGATE
    WWIV           4.24a    B S Craig Dooley      1:376/126   WWIV
    WWIVTOSS       1.36     T S Craig Dooley      1:376/126   WWIVTOSS
    xMail          2.00     T S Thorsten Franke   2:2448/53   XMAIL
    XRobot         3.01     O S JoHo              2:201/330   XRDOS
    FIDONEWS 14-41               Page 12                  13 Oct 1997


    OS/2:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ALLFIX/2       1.10     T S Harald Harms      2:281/415   AFIXOS2
    BGFAX          1.60     O S B.J. Guillot      1:106/400   BGFAX
    Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BOS2_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_OS2
    CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
    FastEcho       1.45a    T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FE2
    FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLST
    FleetStreet    1.20     O S Michael Hohner    2:2490/2520 FLEET
    GEcho/Pro      1.20     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
    GIGO           07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler      1:1/141     INFO
    GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEO
    GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
    GoldNODE       2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEN
    ImCrypt        1.04     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     IMCRYPT
    Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAXP
    Max User Ed.   0.18     O F Larry Cooke       1:300/53    MUEP
    Msged/2        4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41O.ZIP
    NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEF
    PcMerge        2.3      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     PCMERGE
    RAR            2.01     C S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    RAR2
    Squish         1.11     T P Tech              1:249/106   SQUISHP
    T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAIL2
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
    WaterGate      0.93     G S Robert Szarka     1:320/42    WTRGATE
    XRobot         3.01     O S JoHo              2:201/330   XROS2

    Windows (16-bit apps):
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    BeeMail        1.0      M C Andrius Cepaitis  2:470/1     BEEMAIL
    FrontDoor APX  1.12     P S Mats Wallin       2:201/329   FDAPXW

    Windows (32-bit apps):
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Argus 95/IP    2.704    M S Max Masyutin      2:469/77    A9I
    Argus NT/IP    2.704    M S Max Masyutin      2:469/77    ANI
    BeeMail        1.0      M C Andrius Cepaitis  2:470/1     BEEMAIL
    Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BW32_260.ZIP
    BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_W32
    CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
    FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLSTW
    GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEO
    GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
    Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAXN
    Msged/NT       4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41W.ZIP
    NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEFW
    PlatinumXpress 2.00     M C Gary Petersen     1:290/111   PXW-INFO
    Searchlight    5.02     B C Paul Casey        1:343/117   SLBBS50.TXT
    T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAILNT
    WinFOSSIL/95   1.12 r4  F S Bryan Woodruff    1:343/294   WNFOSSIL.ZIP
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    WinFOSSIL/NT   1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff    1:343/294   NTFOSSIL.ZIP

    Unix:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ifmail         2.10     M G Eugene Crosser    2:293/2219  IFMAIL
    ifmail-tx      ...tx8.4 M G Pablo Saratxaga   2:293/2219  IFMAILTX
    ifmail-tx.rpm  ...tx8.4 M G Pablo Saratxaga   2:293/2219  IFMAILTX.RPM
    Msged          4.00     O G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   MSGED
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK

    Amiga:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrashMail      1.23     T X Fredrik Bennison  2:205/324   CRASHMAIL
    CrashTick      1.1      O F Fredrik Bennison  2:205/324   CRASHTICK
    DLG Pro BBOS   1.15     B C Holly Sullivan    1:202/720   DLGDEMO
    GMS            1.1.85   M S Mirko Viviani     2:331/213   GMS
    Msged          4.00     O G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   MSGED
    Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
    TrapDoor       1.86.b2  M S Maximilian Hantsch
                                                  2:310/6     TRAPDOOR
    TrapToss       1.50     T S Rene Hexel        2:310/6     TRAPTOSS

    Atari:
    Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ApplyList      1.00     N F Daniel Roesen     2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
    BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2  M F Bill Scull        1:363/112   BINKLEY
    BTNC           2.00     N G Daniel Roesen     2:2432/1101 BTNC
    JetMail        0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker     2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
    Semper         0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten      2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA

    Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
              C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
              be listed by the first match.

    Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
          X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source

    Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

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      Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

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      Region 13:  http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm

      Region 14:  [disappeared?]

      Region 15:  [disappeared?]

      Region 16:  http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm

      Region 17:  http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
          REC17:  http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/

      Region 18:  http://www.citicom.com/fido.html

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    ZEC2:         http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm
    Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/

      Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

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      Region 25:
                  http://members.aol.com/Net254/

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      Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

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