Volume 7, Number 27                                   2 July 1990
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    Editors Emeritii:                    Thom Henderson,  Dale Lovell
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

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                       Table of Contents
    1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
       FidoCon '90 Update:  ......................................  1
       Breaking the Cycle of Child Sexual Abuse  .................  3
       Broken Links  .............................................  6
       New Echos  ................................................  9
       Region 11 RC Election  .................................... 10
       Labor and Union News Conference  .......................... 13
       MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) Echo Availability  ............ 15
       Incest Survivors Newsletter  .............................. 17
       Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla BBS is Back!  .................. 19
       NEW! FidoCon '90 Registration Form  ....................... 22
    And more!
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 1                    2 Jul 1990


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                                ARTICLES
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    FidoCon '90 Update (7/1):

    If you plan on attending and staying for meals or at the hotel,
    we MUST know whether you're coming by July 1st (that's THIS
    WEEK), as that is our cut-off date for notifying the hotel of
    our 'final' numbers.  If you register after that, we cannot
    guarantee you a room or a meal ticket.  If necessary, send
    crashmail to 1:1/90@FidoNet.

    Chris Irwin has announced a gigantic give-away at FidoCon!  One
    of the prizes at the conference will be a D'Bridge license for
    each member of the lucky winner's net!

    Rumor has it that not only US Robotics will be participating,
    but modem manufacturers Telebit, Unicom, and MicroCom may also
    be there!  Stay tuned for further details.

    Zone 1 Coordinator George Peace will be attending and he's
    invited the other amateur networks to participate in a "network
    summit".  Details will follow as they become available.

    One of the things that's truly amazing about this conference is
    the fact that people are coming all the way from Europe, Canada,
    and Australia just to attend.  This sort of thing makes all the
    work and effort putting on the conference worthwhile.

    Chris Bahr of PC-MAGnet will be making an appearance.

    We are in the process of mailing out the Conference packets to
    all registered attendees.  It contains directions to the hotel,
    a map of the area, and a tenative seminar schedule.

    For our adventurous attendees, we have added an optional trip to
    Six Flag's Great Adventure theme park in Jackson, NJ for $30/person.

    And now for the BIG announcement!  For a grand prize, we will be
    giving away a "Sysop's Dream" computer system complete with a multi-
    line Continuous mail TBBS/TIMS bbs package (courtesy of eSoft).

    [Those who registered before 5/1 will be given 3 changes in the
    drawings, while those registering before 6/1 will be given 2. If
    you register before July 2nd, publication date of this FidoNews,
    you can also participate in our prize drawings.]

    Please use the updated registration form you'll find in this
    issue of Fidonews.  It's headed FIDOCON '90 REGISTRATION FORM.
    Also, please note that the prices listed only apply to those who
    pre-register using the appropriate form.  We regret a typo in
    last week's form, the spousal plan is $620, not $670.

    FidoNews 7-27                Page 2                    2 Jul 1990


    We hope to see you there!

    Bill VanGlahn, FidoCon '90 committee chairman, 1:1/90 1:107/557

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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 3                    2 Jul 1990


    Written by:  Cathrine J. Foote
                 Founder, Brake the Cycle
                 San Jose, California

    Input By:    John Casselli
                 Managing Editor, SIPIS Newsletter
                 Assistant Sysop
                 Vietnam Veterans Valhalla BBS
                 1:143/27  300/1200/9600 HST
                 (408) 298-2740



    Every year thousands of children are sexually abused by adults.
    I want to do something about it.

    This summer, I am again participating in BRAKE THE CYCLE, a bike
    ride from San Jose, California to Washington D.C.  to raise
    support and funds for local and national treatment and training
    agencies that work with these abused children and their
    families.  We are calling the ride "Brake the Cycle", to
    illustrate our cause: breaking the cycle of child sexual abuse.

    Two years ago, "Brake the Cycle" 1988 raised over $30,000.00 for
    this cause.  We also delivered a statement signed by 15,000
    people such as yourself to our Representatives in Washington
    D.C.  with the message that our communities want child abuse
    stopped.  "Brake the Cycle" 1990 hopes to do the same, and with
    your help we can.

    If you would like to be a partner in my effort to take positive
    steps towards breaking the cycle of child sexual abuse, there
    are several ways you can participate.  First, sign the
    "Statement of Concern" that we are taking to Washington D.C.
    Second, make a pledge to the ride itself.  Donations are tax
    deductible, and 100% of the funds go directly to local and
    national treatment agencies.  Third, be a direct contributor to
    the ride expenses.  The other riders and I are donating our
    time, energy and personal funds to this project, and it would be
    a great benefit to have help with the expenses.  These
    contributions also are tax deductible.

    After you have had time to consider this opportunity, please
    fill out the form and return it to me at the address provided.

    Sincerely,
    /s/ Cathrine J.  Foote
        Break the Cycle Founder

    NOTE: The "Statement of Concern" mentioned in Cathrine's letter
    is printed in this article, please make copies and pass them
    around, and it is available by FREQ from the Vietnam Veterans
    Valhalla, 1:143/27, HST 14.4 (408) 298-2740.  Use the filename:
    BRAKE.FRM for the request.

    FidoNews 7-27                Page 4                    2 Jul 1990


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    BRAKE THE CYCLE
    National Ride to Stop Child Sexual Abuse
    Project of Childsong Inc.
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                          STATEMENT OF CONCERN

    Yes, I want to help break the cycle of child sexual abuse.  Every
    family and every community needs to be aware of this problem and
    take steps to prevent it.

    Studies show that reports of child abuse in our county are
    increasing.  One girl in four and one boy in seven in the United
    States will be molested before his or her 18th birthday.

    Proper treatment needs to be made available to abused children and
    their families.  Public awareness can prevent this crime from being
    committed.  I gladly add my name to this statement of concern
    urging the institution and people of the United States to provide
    these funds and the human resources necessary to stop child sexual
    abuse.


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 5                    2 Jul 1990


               Please return this Statement of Concern To:
                             Brake the Cycle
                            1879 Ellen Avenue
                       San Jose, California  95125
                                                          VVV-6/29/90


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 6                    2 Jul 1990


                  Is our Echo Mail Broken?
             And How long has it been this way?


     I think it almost goes with out saying that over 3/4 of the
     Network is bonded together by echos. So when there is a problem
     it is rather upsetting. After a while everybody starts to
     notice and wants to fix it or to see it fixed. *If* possible.

     This is NOT a political article. I do thouth like voting and
     believe it ought to be mandantory that Coordinators
     periodocally allow voting for the chair they hold. Not just
     when it suits thier fancy, but yearly. I also firmly believe
     there should be no Gods as System Operators OR Coordinators.
     And Thou being a coordinator be a thankless job when done right
     they have my extreme thanks. In fact when I think of it -- the
     Cooperative state - it is truely amazing. But the other side of
     the coin is -- that when done irresponsibly it can be a mess
     which almost seems to strecth to infinity. Who do i contact?
     Just how persistant should I get? What does it mean when I get
     no responces? What can i do? Who Cares?  I even, for awhile,
     thought about the worst ..Mebbe I will get my link cut for
     even talking about it.  Etc...


     I live in Region 18. I am very fortunate because I have two
     Echo sources. So if something is broke and i get no responce
     about getting it fixed, I can go get it from an alternative
     source in another Region. There are many here thou that are
     not as fortunate. This problem has been going on since at
     least a couple of years ago and I do wonder how widespread
     it is.

     I was told two years ago the DND echo was booming in Region 13
     yet not a message ever appeared in Region 18. That started me
     looking! Recently I switched feeds on the IFNA conference (one
     i wanted *before* the vote took place). it went immediately
     from 0 messages to as many as 20 messages a week. It was a bit
     late for getting involved so i turned it off. Another was
     RC_MODELS, The first day I changed feeds i recieved 1 message
     (from reading it I could tell it was a responce to another in
     the echo). Yet in Region 18 not a message filtered in. A Local
     SysOp I supply mail with wanted STARGAZE. Ok, I turn it on from
     my Region 18 source - weeks go by and not a single message. The
     SysOp asks me "what is going on, I read in the ELIST that
     traffic should be 10 messages a week minimum". I tell him post
     a "test" message. He posts, meanwhile the user who wanted it
     calls the Moderators board. The test message is there and even
     responces yet none make it back to Region 18!? An update is
     that the new feed has more messages but when the User calls
     the Moderators Board There is even MORE messages there and
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 7                    2 Jul 1990


     some of them Unseen. Why are echos like CAD-CAM called CAD_CAM
     in some Areas and Regions? We have the CHESS Echo Moderator
     right outside of our local calling area. My NEC tells me a very
     unusual story about the Echo Telemate which was not linked.
     Lately I have heard of a SysOp calling asking if he could read
     on the Moderators board. The SysOp then asked if he could pick
     up directly from the Moderator's System. They said messages are
     NOT making it to thier Region. Are we heading Back to "the Old
     Days" - Remember when folks called the Moderator and Picked up
     the Echo. Can YOU afford it! Why do we bother to have a Back-
     Bone if it isn't going to work?


     This has been plauging me. What can *I* do about it?? I thought
     of writing the EC ..mebbe the ZC  ...is there any guarentees it
     will be fixed ...or not keep happening again and again. How
     many other places does this happen and no one talks about it?
     How many Echos are broke?? Are links that sensitive? Is some
     one Lying? Is the Mail being Censored? I pick up LD and
     recently when my source asked folks who are picking up there
     for a donation, most of us chipped in a few bucks. Thou WE
     call Ld to pick up the echos... Hell, I even send some in!
     It bothers me that my Source does not respond to my NetMail.
     It bothers me even more that it happens to more than one echo.
     What causes this and what can be done about it? After all this
     Network is part of all of us. It is OUR Network(s). Aint see
     no reason than belonging other than to "share" the Mail!

     I know somebody is going to scream "We need more rules.." Any
     one with the sence of at least a rusty nail will know that
     this is obviously a bunch of %^&# and Rules and Regulations
     are NOT the answer! What is happening is the large echos which
     are very popular are linked but the small specialty echos are
     sorta haphazardly put together ...after all less SysOps would
     notice it and those that do can be easily ignored. ..Well
     think about it ...mebbe they ALL are Broken? how can we tell?
     I have seen local echos go straight to hell when echo
     distribution is done in a irresponsible manner. Just because
     someone has an Echo listed in thier Areas.BBS doesn't mean
     they are linked ..Even If they do have other Net/Nodes listed!!
     I had the pleasure of my Net Coordinator cutting me off with
     out even a word. There were actually two local Echos. Who's to
     say this hasn't happened somewhere on a Regional Level. Could
     it be that someone just cut a link and forgot about it.

     All this really didnt matter when echomail was first
     transmitted. But we do exspect everyone upstream to be honest
     about the links ...right?  Infact we depend on the integerity
     of the BackBone Echo Mail Systems and our fellow NetWork
     members. Mebbe it hasnt been working for a long time. Our
     Software can not tell if upstream is together! Take one echo
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 8                    2 Jul 1990


     for instance. Notes could be compared on the path and seenbys
     from different parts of the country but that is not to
     guarentee that there are at least a dozen broken links
     somewhere inbetween. Anybody got any ideas on a Utility which
     can help out? Our software is not really designed that way. I
     was talking to a friend in GT Net. Since Gt's Software is so
     much different things are done differently. He told me he can
     send sort of test message that reports routing status back to
     him. It is part of the EchoMail Software. ..Gawd, I wish I was
     a Software writer... This problem is part ALL of our problem!
     After all, What fun is it belonging to a NetWork who boasts
     sharing Free Information that doesn't get sent to active
     participants. Are we sewing the mouth shut on our guest
     speakers?


                               by Kenneth "Kevin" Snively
                                    1:116/24 EET BBS
                                 1:116/29 the Dawg Byte
                             1:116/28 The Nashville HUB System


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 9                    2 Jul 1990


    John Bierrie
    Fido 1:322/235

                              NEW ECHOS

         I thought I would take this oportunity to anounce that
    there are two new echos available which might be of interest
    to some of you.

    -=R&R=-
         The R&R Echo is an offshoot from the dBase and Clipper
    echos, where discussions concering the use of "Report Writer"
    software for dBase was building.  The R&R echo is dedicated to
    discussing the use and implimentation of report writing software
    used by many dBase/Foxbase/DBXL, etc., programmers.  This covers
    both commercial and shareware versions and can be of immence
    help to those using these programs.  The echo is open to any
    individual with interest in this type of software.
    Symbolic Name (TAG) - R&R


    -=RA_UTIL=-
         The RA_UTIL Echo is dedicated to discussions concerning the
    many "external" programs being written for the Remote Access BBS
    software package.  The participants include many of the authors
    of such programs and the discussions range from "problem solving"
    to what is coming in the future.  The echo is open to anyone who
    has interest in the external programs written for Remote Access
    and "authors" wishing to discuss and support their programs.
    Symbolic Name (TAG) - RA_UTIL


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 10                   2 Jul 1990


    Donn Bly (1:236/7)
    Region 11 RC Election Coordinator

    Region 11 has elected a new RC.  A few weeks ago we posted the
    election rules here, and now we are posting the final results.

    Region 11 RC Election Report
    ----------------------------

    The following is the final tabulation of all votes received by me
    as of the close of the polls on June 30, 1990 at 18:00 EST.  To
    the best of my knowledge these results are accurate and complete.

    If there is a question about the validity of vote, please get in
    touch with me IMMEDIATELY via netmail or voice call.  My home
    voice number is (219) 925-3474.

    If you voted, and your password is not listed under the candidate
    for which you voted, or your node number is not listed below,
    please contact me IMMEDIATELY.

    So that I did not have to return as many ballots, I relaxed the
    rules slightly -- the outcome of the election is not effected.  I
    decided to allow for codewords up to 9 characters instead of 8,
    and I allowed non-alphanumeric characters as well as
    alphanumeric. I also received a request to allow both upper and
    lower case, so when I rewrote the software for the non-
    alphanumerics I made allowances for that too.

    As the documentation below shows, the winner of the RC11 Election
    is Mark Lynch.

    The first salvo of voting achieved the following results:

    Candidates                   Number Of Votes
    --------------------------   ---------------
    Mark Lynch                      58 (39.5%)
    George Kasica                   27 (18.4%)
    Ed Almasy                       25 (17.0%)
    Bill Huther                     23 (15.6%)
    Martin Essenburg                14 ( 9.5%)

    Because no one candidate received a majority of the votes, a run-
    off election was held between the two candidates that received
    the most votes.  The full results of the run-off election are as
    follows:

    Candidates                   Number Of Votes
    --------------------------   ---------------
    Mark Lynch                     109 (72.7%)
    George Kasica                   41 (27.3%)

    FidoNews 7-27                Page 11                   2 Jul 1990


    Breakdown
    -----------------------------
    Total Nodes Listed :  597
    Total Eligible     :  535
    Total Ineligible   :  62
    Total Votes        :  150
    Return Percentage  :  28.037%

    Password Breakdown
    ------------------

    Candidate: Mark Lynch

    232/16     2560399    2R1U1S2H   61889PS    8f7553g7   AFITVOTE
    alt1.wbm   ASFASM     asia       Autohelm   babygirl   BASEBALL
    BATCOL93   BATRATE    BAZOOMS    BCRCVOTE   BEARNEST   Bigbird1
    Blackdog   blade549   BOOKSHOP   BRILLO     BUG4book   Bullets
    butter03   CALLICO7   CHILLOUT   creative   D969GCCC   DEVISTAR
    Devonian   DOGPATCH   dondixon   EKU75DEB   ELIFATAD   Elizabeth
    Ellicott   ESTRAVEN   EYEDOC     FREQALOT   FUMAROLE   GARGOYLE
    HandyMan   hcunlerf   Hegotit    HICCUPS    HOTROK     HUM-BUG
    IDOC2020   J4E7G6W8   JITTERYS   JOHNNY50   KA8NCR73   KIMETTE1
    Lakers     LAZY       LOGITECH   Lynch.     MAD_MAN    MAGICIAN
    MARGOMOT   MARLBORO   Marukka!   MEGSHACA   Milamber   momfnord
    Mongodog   MUYUZOTI   MVS/XA     mystical   N4KHT0CW   NavelLint
    NET154SUX  OFFINPUT   OICU8AQ2   OVERRIDE   PDISE      Peabody
    peb-bles   PICAYUNE   PILGRIMS   QUESTION   RF64GF61   RHYTHMNS
    RK110189   ROBERT     ROBOSVII   RONSONOL   Sequence   SKULDAZE
    spacerat   speedrac   T0Y0TAX4   T10002283  TA054SPU   THORINJR
    THX-1138   Trillion   V4O3T2E1   VACATION   VOTENUM2   WD8CIV01
    WILDC6T    Wingding   WITCHDOC   WorkShop   X666BGGV   ytrewq
    ZBUZZARZ


    Candidate: George Kasica

    12345678   154288HS   357OM(C)   386SXDTK   8743grdy   894-3234
    Analysis   anon5440   APPLE139   ARGHHHHH   ARMYWORM   ASTROFLY
    Atalanta   bull1990   CELABRA8   DRACO      DROWKCAB   DUGY4321
    FLOUNDER   FLYGUY01   FREEDOM1   GOD_IS#1   HM31923    humulin
    ICECREAM   MBCREATR   Melnar     Mystery57  N6bb2930   NC115743
    NET154!!   PASSVOTE   Silicons   SLYSTONE   spegetti   st154400
    stanpaul   TIMESTAT   VOTEBOAT   WXMANBBS   ZOOBVOTE


    List of all Nodes Voting
    ------------------------

    11/13     11/15     11/16     11/301    11/868    108/10
    108/90    108/111   108/145   108/165   108/255   108/260
    108/350   110/10    110/69    110/101   110/120   110/150
    110/201   110/240   110/270   110/300   110/310   110/350
    110/370   110/380   110/430   115/101   115/333   115/400
    115/439   115/473   115/529   115/639   115/634   115/729
    115/743   115/769   115/777   115/876   115/934   115/989
    120/80    120/102   120/113   120/125   120/151   120/183
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 12                   2 Jul 1990


    120/193   120/207   120/209   120/210   120/216   121/4
    139/600   139/630   154/8     154/40    154/69    154/77
    154/111   154/288   154/300   154/350   154/400   154/414
    154/777   154/970   157/511   157/538   157/531   157/533
    159/400   159/725   159/850   226/20    226/40    226/50
    226/60    226/70    226/100   226/110   226/120   226/170
    226/180   226/210   226/220   226/230   226/240   226/260
    226/280   226/290   226/310   226/320   226/330   226/340
    226/370   226/500   226/510   226/520   227/2     228/3
    228/14    228/17    228/21    228/26    228/30    228/31
    228/32    230/5     231/20    231/50    231/60    231/190
    231/210   231/230   231/270   231/290   232/6     232/9
    232/16    232/18    232/20    233/12    233/16    233/22
    233/69    234/1     234/10    234/14    234/16    234/20
    234/100   236/10    236/12    236/13    237/85    237/500
    237/506   237/507   237/523   238/101   238/102   2200/103
    2210/518  2210/558  2210/633  2220/10   2220/20   2220/80

    The full results of the first vote should be available from your
    NC (if you are in Region 11), and were posted in the REGION11
    conference, just as these results will.

    As mentioned in the original rules that I posted, a period for
    commenting on the election process has been opened.  I have not
    decided how long it will remain open as I have no idea how many
    people have suggestions and how long it will take.  If you do
    have any comment, suggestions, etc. I will gratefully accept any
    netmail on the subject at 1:236/7.  If there are enough people
    interested in it, an echo may be started to handle the traffic.

    I wish to take this opportunity to thank all who were involved in
    this process:  Steve Bonine for commissioning it as one of his
    final acts as ZC, John Summers for being RC until he had to move
    out of the Region, Rick Moore for acting as interim RC until this
    vote was completed, the candidates who stepped forward and
    offered their services to an often-unthankful network, and George
    Peace, our ZC, who has said that he will accept the results of
    this election as final and appoint the winner to the RC11
    position.


    Donn Bly (1:236/7)
    Ex-Region 11 RC Election Coordinator

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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 13                   2 Jul 1990


                  The Labor and Union News Conference
                  -----------------------------------

    "The average weekly wage in 1979 was $189.32.  In 1988,
    compensating for inflation, it was $168.10, a fall of
    11.2 percent."  --  Quote from journalist David Bacon

       I pulled that out of my quotes file because I thought it
    would be a good introduction to this article.  It's a truly
    startling statistic because we all sadly know that grocery
    prices haven't dropped 11.2 percent after inflation!

       Over the same time period quoted above, we've seen a
    definite drop in union membership in this country.  There are
    many reasons for this, the changing economy and labor force
    for one, but one of the biggest reasons has been the corporate
    offensive against organized labor launched in the Reagan years
    and now continuing under the Bush administration.

       We've seen company after company launch efforts to bust
    their unions and to shift health care costs onto workers
    causing many of the strikes that get reported in the
    corporate-owned mass media.

       While workers still have the right to strike, the companies
    now force strikes, like the current Greyhound strike that is
    going on now, in order to replace strikers with permanent
    replacement workers -- better known as scabs.  Of course it's
    still illegal to fire striking workers, but it's not illegal to
    permanently replace strikers with scabs.  Nice little catch-22
    there, huh?

       And all this effects far more than unionized workers.  It
    effects our entire economy and, in particular, all working
    people.  In any given profession, unionized workers tend to
    be better paid than non-unionized workers.  If the unions
    are suffering and are being forced to take wage and benefit
    cuts, then eventually all workers will be in the same boat.

       What's the above paragraphs leading up to?  I'm glad you
    asked.

       I'd like to inform you of an echomail conference devoted
    to working-class issues.  The conference focuses on labor and
    union news -- things you normally wouldn't hear about in our
    normal corporate-owned mass media.  The daily newspaper always
    has a large "business" section devoted to that tiny percentage
    of people who own enough stock in a company to effect the
    company's operation, but it never has a "labor" section
    devoted to the vast majority of people in this country -- the
    working class.

    FidoNews 7-27                Page 14                   2 Jul 1990


       The conference's area name is, appropriately enough,
    LABOR_CONFERENCE, and it currently is not distributed on the
    echomail backbone.  It has its own distribution system (if you
    could really call it a "system").

       The conference's moderator is William Bowles at 1:107/607
    and Bill can let you know where to find a link into the echo.

       The echo consists mainly of news items from various sources
    and has a little conversation.  The news tends to be very
    interesting and informative and comes from such sources as
    union newsletters, and other labor-oriented writers.  Hopefully
    we'll increase the conversation end of the echo with more
    links and with more participating systems.

       Solidarity forever and have a good day.

       Hope to see you in the LABOR_CONFERENCE echo!


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 15                   2 Jul 1990


    Jack Decker
    1:154/8

             MLM (MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING) ECHO AVAILABILITY

    A few weeks ago I wrote up an article for FidoNews describing
    the MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) Echo.  This conference has been
    picking up a bit lately, but I still occasionally hear from
    folks who are having difficulty finding links to it.

    An inspection of messages entered in the last week or so
    reveals the following net/nodes listed in the PATH lines:

    102/2 102/803 103/501 124/3207 124/3220 124/4115 13/13 157/200
    236/13 236/7 238/101 265/7 270/101 270/116 343/11 343/300

    It's quite possible that more nodes may be carrying the
    conference, but no messages have been entered from those nodes
    so they do not appear in the PATH lines.  The conference SHOULD
    be available from any backbone feed, since it is carried on the
    Eastern Star.  If you absolutely cannot get a feed through your
    regional backbone node, you may wish to see if you can get a
    feed from one of the nodes listed above (but PLEASE check with
    your Regional Echomail Coordinator first, so that "dupe loops"
    can be avoided!).

    If you (or any of your users) are involved in Multi-Level
    Marketing, or if you have an interest in the topic, you are
    invited to link in.  As far as I am aware, there are no links
    to nodes outside of Zone 1 at present, although I did receive
    one request from a sysop in Australia (Kurt Johannessen at
    3:713/610) who wanted the echo via a HST feed.  If anyone who
    has an HST (and who is familiar with the requirements for
    sending an echo to another Zone) can provide a feed, your help
    would be appreciated (please send netmail to Kurt directly).

    For those who missed the original announcement, I will just
    repeat a couple of paragraphs from it:  We have started a new
    echo called MLM, the echo for those involved or interested in
    Multi-Level Marketing (sometimes also known as "network
    marketing").  For those of you who are not familiar with the
    phrase "Multi-Level Marketing", this is the method by which a
    large number of products and services are sold nowadays.  Some
    of the better-known firms in this field are Amway (home care
    and other products), and A.J. Williams (insurance), but there
    are literally hundreds of firms that utilize this method of
    marketing their products.

    We expect that those who participate in the MLM echo will agree
    that Multi-Level Marketing is a valid and responsible method of
    marketing products.  HOWEVER, we also recognize that there are
    irresponsible people who try to use MLM as a "cover" for
    illegal pyramid schemes, but that does not detract from the
    fact that MLM itself is a very valid method of selling products
    or services direct to the customer, that has been utilized for
    years.  Those who disagree, or who feel that _all_ MLM activity
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 16                   2 Jul 1990


    is a scam of some type, should not be participating in this
    echo.

    Everyone else is welcome and if your are interested in the
    topic, please link in to the MLM conference!

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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 17                   2 Jul 1990


    Incest Survivors Newsletter

    By:  John Casselli
         Managing Editor, SIPIS Newsletter
         Assistant Sysop
         Vietnam Veterans Valhalla BBS
         1:143/27  300/1200/9600 HST
         (408) 298-2740

    I am writing to announce a couple of important events which I am
    quite proud of.  As a member of Parents United, Inc.  (PU), and
    AMACU (Adults Molested as Children, Inc), a component of PU, in
    San Jose, California, I have become quite involved in trying to
    break the cycle of child sexual abuse in this country.  The
    statistics are astounding.  This disease is in a rampage and has
    struck nearly every, if not all, families in this country.  I am
    convinced that public awareness - education - is the key to
    breaking this cycle.  It CAN prevent this crime from being
    committed.  To this end, I have created and am now proud to
    announce the first issue of SIPIS (Singleness in Purpose -
    Incest Survivors), named after a SIP echo conference if the same
    name (I hope they don't mind stealing their name but it gets the
    point across in a no-nonsense fashion).

    SIPIS is a newsletter written *by*, *about* and *for* incest
    survivors and others who are interested in trying to do
    something to prevent this from happening to other children.  One
    in four girls and one in seven boys will be molested before they
    reach the age of eighteen in this country alone, and that is
    intolerable.  Only *you* can make a difference by making your
    feelings known, and getting involved.  SIPIS is file requestable
    (HST 14.4) from 1:143/27 at (408) 298-2740 anytime but NMH under
    the magic filename SIPIS.

    I am also looking for people who want to become part of this
    *first* electronically compiled and distributed newsletter on
    the subject of child sexual abuse.  You can help in several
    ways.  First, by participating in the SIP_INCEST echo
    conference, also available from the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla if
    you cannot find it locally.  Second, by contributing articles
    related to child sexual abuse to me at 1:143/27, or by mailing
    them to:

                   Vietnam Veterans Valhalla, Inc.
                       SIPIS Managing Editor
                      1016 E. El  Camino Real
                             Suite 331
                       Sunnyvale, CA.  94087

    Third, you can become a part of the SIPIS *team* by volunteering
    to become a section editor.  I need your help, the success of
    this vitally important newsletter is up to those of you who
    care.  To give you an idea of what the market for such a
    publication is, the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla was *inundated*
    with requests for the first newsletter during the first week
    after it's release.  There were 327 File requests, and another
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 18                   2 Jul 1990


    35 individual downloads in *one week*!!! This was totally
    unexpected but served to convince me I am doing the right thing!

    Please help!?


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 19                   2 Jul 1990


                     VIETNAM VETERANS' VALHALLA
                           Todd C. Looney
                               -SYSOP-
                        FidoNet Node 1:143/27
                      300/1200/2400/9600 Bauds
                  22 Hours a day/365 Days a Year
                         BBS (408) 298-2740

    "In the jungles of 'Nam, some of us were scared and wary, but we
     pulled one another along and were able to depend on each other.
                        That has never changed.
    Today, free of the criticisms and misunderstandings many veterans
      have endured, the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla is a ray of hope,
       and a reminder that the lessons learned at such a high price
            shall not be forgotten, nor the errors repeated!!!"


    The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla bulletin board started back when
    "Fido" was the only BBS software available for hobbyists and the
    like.  Since that time over 40,000 calls have been made to our
    system which indicates to us that there is an expansive need for
    such a service as we provide.   The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla is
    back online again after being down for a year.   We have a new
    computer and a HST 14.4 modem from USR to make long distance
    calling a little less painful.

    When the Valhalla started back in early 1986, the only other
    veteran-related conferencing service was through CompuServe.
    Since then veteran-related BBS systems have sprung up all over
    the world and we help each other to grow through a kind of
    unofficial "VetNet".  For a complete list of BBS systems
    comprising the VetNet, simply file request the magic filename
    VETNET from the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla, 1:143/27.

    Also through this VetNet we disseminate what has become one of
    the most popular backbone echo's available, the International
    Vietnam Veterans EchoConference (IVVEC), titled VIETNAM_VETS.
    Although the conference originated here at the Vietnam Veterans'
    Valhalla, it is Co-moderated by G. Joseph Peck, President of
    Berkshire Vet Center in Pittsfield, MA, who also sysops VETLink
    #1, 1:321/203, (413-443-6313, 300/1200/2400/9600 bauds).

    Together, Joe Peck and I created and manage a monthly publication
    dedicated to Vietnam Veterans called the "NAM VET Newsletter".
    During my absence, Joe and others have built the NAM VET into the
    pillar of information it is today.   The NAM VET has grown from a
    tiny newsletter into a 100 page per month publication of vital
    importance to Vietnam veterans and non-veterans alike.  Topics of
    interest addressed in each issue, and their section editors are:


    FidoNews 7-27                Page 20                   2 Jul 1990


            Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
            Kathleen Kelly, Ph.D.
            The New York Transfer BBS - Staten Island, NY
            (718) 448-2358

            AGENT ORANGE
            Martin H. Kroll
            Fort Mountain BBS - Chatsworth, Ga. 30705
            (404) 695-8703

            MIA-POW
            Rick Stolz
            Okauchee, Wisconsin
            VETLink #1 BBS - Pittsfield, MA
            (413) 443-6313
            -and-
            Glenn Toothman
            The Commo Bunker BBS - Karnes County, TX
            VetPoint 8 (1:321/203.8) & FidoNet 1:387/801

            HOMELESSNESS
            Lefty Frizzell
            The Executive Washroom BBS - San Antonio, TX
            (713) 347-2588

            FEDERAL BENEFITS
            Jim Hildwine
            VetPoint 47 - FidoNet 1:321/203.47
            Shady Side, Md

            INCARCERATED VETS
            Todd C. Looney
            Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla - San Jose, CA
            (408) 298-2740
            -and-
            Joyce Flory
            Desert Dolphin BBS - Las Cruces, NM
            (505) 523-2811

            MEMORIALS
            Aaron Schmiedel
            Chai Way BBS - Dallas, TX
            (214) 239-4368

            MEMORIES
            G. Joseph Peck
            VETLink #1 BBS - Pittsfield, MA
            (413) 443-6313

            IN-TOUCH
            Ray "Frenchy" Moreau
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 21                   2 Jul 1990


            Herndon Byte Exchange BBS - Herndon, VA
            (703) 471-8010

            CHAPLAIN
            Rev. Ed Brant
            The Landing Zone BBS - Fall Creek, OR
            (503) 747-9809

    The NAM VET Newsletter is available through file request at any
    of the BBS systems listed above using the magic filename NAMVET.
    (At least I think that they all use that magic filename, if not,
    please excuse my error, I did *not* check with them first.  Best
    to request FILES from their systems first to get a list of
    available files.  I believe the International Vietnam Veterans'
    EchoConference (IVVEC) is available for viewing at all of these
    systems as well.

    The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla also has a collection of veteran-
    related text files for you to read.  Just file request the magic
    filename FILES to get a complete list of those files which are
    available on this system.

    The Valhalla has taken on a different perspective this year from
    when you might last have been on that system.  It has expanded
    the scope of its services to include overall RECOVERY, and hosts
    a wide variety of such topic-related echo conferences and files.

    I certainly hope to be "seeing" you at the Vietnam Veterans'
    Valhalla soon.  And please be sure to leave me a note when you
    stop by.


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 22                   2 Jul 1990


         The Secret Sysop Society presents            __
               *** Conclave '90 ***                  /  \
               The SYSOPS Convention                /|oo \
               Home of FidoCon 1990                (_|  /_)
               Lyndhurst, New Jersey                _`@/_ \    _
                 August 1-5, 1990                  |     | \   \\
                                                   | (*) |  \   ))
                                      ______       |__U__| /  \//
                                     / Fido \       _//|| _\   /
                                    (________)     (_/(_|(____/ (tm)

    Rate Plan Schedule: (Hotel rooms cannot be guaranteed if you
                               register after July 1st!)
    A. Single Occupancy...................$545.00
    B. Double Occupancy...................$400.00
    C. Conference w/ meals................$250.00
    D. Conference w/ Banquet..............$105.00
    E. Conference only.....................$75.00
    F. Banquet only........................$30.00
    G. Registrant & Spouse................$670.00

    Plans A B & G include all conference and hotel fees and meals.
    Prices are for pre-registrants using this form only.

    You must pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card.  Please send
    no cash.  All monies must be in U.S. Funds.  Checks should be
    made out to: "Conclave '90"

    The following registration form must be completed and mailed to:
                        PO Box 12
                        Lyndhurst, NJ 07071

    You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/90 for
    processing.  Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone
    number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number.  US Mail
    confirmation is required within 72 hours of electronic filing.

    If you are paying by credit card, please include the required
    information.  For your own security, do not route any message
    with your credit card number on it.  Crash it directly to 1:1/90.

    The official Conclave '90 airline is American Airlines.
    American offers a 5% discount the lowest applicable round-trip
    fare, including 1st class travel, subject to availability of
    inventory.  All fare rules and restrictions apply.  In addition,
    American offers 40% off their round trip unrestricted day coach
    fare.  International travelers qualify for special benefits,
    including complimentary admittance to the Admiral's Club Lounge
    at any American Airlines terminal.  Newark is an American Air-
    lines city with direct flights to most major cities.  When making
    reservations, you must call American's Toll-free reservation
    number at 800-433-1790, and reference Star number 13704F.
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 23                   2 Jul 1990


        F I D O - C O N  '90   R E G I S T R A T I O N   F O R M

    Name: __________________________________________________________

    Address: _____________________________  Apt. or Suite: _________

    City: _________________________  State or Province: ____________

    Postal Code: __________________  Country: ______________________

    Voice Phone: ______________________  Data: _____________________

    Zone:Net/Node.Point@Domain: ____________________________________

    Special requirements: __________________________________________

    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | Option        | Full                |     | Pre-Reg. | Line  |
    |(Choose 1: A-G)| Name                | Qty | Pricing  | Total |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN A**      |                     |     | $545.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN B**      |                     |     | $400.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN C        |                     |     | $250.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN D        |                     |     | $105.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN E        |                     |     | $ 75.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN F        |                     |     | $ 30.00  |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    | PLAN G**      |                     |     | $670.00  |       |
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    |*NJ Beach Trip |                     |     | $  24.50 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    |*Eve. NYC Tour |                     |     | $  37.50 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    |*NYC Shop Tour |                     |     | $  36.50 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
    |*Medieval Times|                     |     | $  50.00 |       |
    +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
     ** includes registration, Hotel, and meals | Total  $ |       |
     *  Requires Pre-registration (before 7/1)  +==========+=======+

    MC _____  Visa _____  Card Number: _____________________________

    Expiration: ___________  Signature _____________________________
           ( Credit card registrations require valid signature )
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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 24                   2 Jul 1990


    FidoCon '91 -- The New Beginning
    Zone 1 Region Coordinators
    Zone 1 Zone Coordinator

    The Region Coordinators of FidoNet Zone 1 continue to respect the
    results of the "IFNA dissolution referendum".

    We also  respect Tom  Jennings' revocation of IFNA's right to use
    trademarks and logos registered to Fido Software (FidoNet and the
    Fido  logo).   Tom  Jennings   has  granted  the  Zone  1  Region
    Coordinators  the  right  of  continued  use  of  the  Registered
    Trademarks.

    The vote  to dissolve  IFNA  as  well  as  the  [IFNA]  trademark
    revocation make  the 1990  Zone 1  FidoCon  event  the  last  one
    possible by  authority of  IFNA. But  FidoCon, a  celebration  of
    FidoNet History and Tradition, will continue.

    The FidoNet Zone 1 Region Coordinators (RCs) invite you to submit
    proposals to  sponsor and  host the  Zone 1 FidoCon '91, "The New
    Beginning". Please  submit your individual or Net proposal to any
    Zone 1 RC before July 18. A committee of Zone 1 RCs will select a
    primary and  backup site from proposals submitted. Please contact
    any Zone 1 RC for information and assistance with your proposal.

    Each year, several excellent proposals are eliminated through the
    selection process. 1990 was no exception. Those dormant proposals
    are some  of the  ones we  hope you will resubmit for 1991. Let's
    not let all that good effort be wasted. We're asking you to "show
    us what you've got" so we can evaluate a variety of completed and
    in-progress proposals  and make  a selection  without  geographic
    bias.

    The primary  and backup  sites of  the Zone 1 FidoCon '91 will be
    announced in FidoNews on Monday, July 30, 1990.

    Start thinking about your FidoCon '92 proposal. It's not that far
    off.

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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 25                   2 Jul 1990


    =================================================================
                                 COLUMNS
    =================================================================

    Henry Clark
    124/6120


    The Big Demo --

    One of the large Long Distance phone companies is coming in for
    a demo of two big switches, which I have a small part in.  One
    system is a 45 megabit digital switch, bandwidth suitable for
    video switching.  Now why does that interest them ?  Running on
    a little laptop buried in a cabinet somewhere is a program I
    wrote which commands the switch routing processor to route the
    video signals differently.  For the demo, it changes the
    routing between a camera, a VCR, a CD player and a test pattern
    generator to eight TV monitors.

    The other system is a 1.54 megabit digital switch, bandwidth
    suitable for voice channel switching.  Carried on the channel
    is 4 kilobits of statistical data, which is gathered by my
    programs on PC and displayed in fancy colors on the screen.
    The significant part is that these two systems are standing
    side by side, and customer came in to see both.

    The business of long distance ( read nonlocal ) carriers will
    change depending upon the restrictions placed on your local
    carrier in terms of "who can transport what".  What we are
    looking at is the ability to 'dial' into any video source,
    similar to the way we dial into voice and data sources.


    Buried Cable --

    The phone companies are going to take over the cable TV
    operations in this country and I'll tell you why.  A review of
    the history of these natural monopolies would have to start
    with the baby boom of the '60s.

    All these young'uns have finally gotten their houses built and
    the housing market is starting to fall off, simply because
    there are fewer buyers out there.  I can see no possibility of
    this trend changing for at least 20 years, probably more like
    30.  This falloff leaves the phone companies with little room
    for expansion, so they have to look elsewhere for new business.

    The phone company expansion that did occur was in the areas of
    buried cable and local switching equipment.  They were quite
    peeved to see the cable TV companies burying their cable along
    the same lines.  Cable TV has quite a way to go before they
    have saturated the market.  Everyone has a phone, only about
    17% of households have cable TV connections.  Add to this the
    fact that phone companies have buried twisted pair, and cable
    TV companies have buried coax.
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 26                   2 Jul 1990


    Now we have optical fiber.  No one disputes it's superiority
    over copper.  The dispute is over who gets to bury the optical
    fiber cable in your back yard.  When you finally do get fiber,
    you have all the bandwidth you need on the one cable for both
    phone, data ( ISDN style ), television and anything else you
    can think of.  And you will only need ONE fiber.  Even if 20
    years from now, something better comes along, YOU will not
    need any extra bandwidth.

    In exchange for the privilege of being your only
    communications company, you extract certain restrictions from a
    natural monopoly.  You get to force reduced profits and specify
    minimum levels of service. ( Sounds a lot like echomail, doesn't
    it ? )

    Who's going to win the opportunity to dig up your yard ( again
    ) ?  I believe it will be the phone companies, because they
    have the better administrative systems and more financial
    resources.  They are waging this battle in congress right now.

    Our systems will become the terminals of a worldwide network
    which carries all communications traffic.  The regional
    carriers will provide the administrative services and local
    routing.  The long distance carriers will provide the backbone
    services.  Network television will operate similar to the 1-800
    toll free number.  Pay channels on your TV will be billed the
    same as pay phone calls.  This trend will become worldwide.

    Welcome to the 21st century.


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 27                   2 Jul 1990


    =================================================================
                          LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
    =================================================================

    Dave Thompson
    1:18/60

    Well,   Vince,   you asked for opinions  concerning  the  subject
    article.  I have heard a lot of complaints about lack of interest
    in network issues, so I will respond.

    When I first scanned issue 7.23  of FidoNews, I  skipped over the
    High Mesa Publishing (HMP)  article without a thought.  I  am not
    very  sensitive  to  the no solicitations  clause  in  Policy  4.
    Therefore,  I never thought about the article.  After reading Jim
    Dailey's letter, and your response, I decided to reread and think
    about the text.

    Publication of solicitious material is a two-edged sword.  On one
    hand, it alerts possible consumers (many of us in FidoNet will be
    interested)   to  the product.   On the other hand,   it  sets  a
    precedent  for further solicitations.   I  would not like to  see
    FidoNews become a weekly trading paper similar to those available
    locally.

    From the first perspective,  I  see nothing offensive in the  HMP
    article.   The material is clearly of interest to FidoNet  sysops
    and users.   In fact,  there may be many FidoNet participants who
    will  provide text for inclusion in the diskazine and  disk-based
    books.  I think this is a good use for FidoNews.

    From the second point of view, how will you determine whether the
    next  solicitation  is appropriate for publication?   As  I  said
    before,  FidoNews is not a weekly trader's paper.   I  doubt that
    any of us want it to become one, too.

    One   possible  solution  is  to  charge  for  advertising   from
    commercial ventures.  If the submission requirements and fees are
    set  appropriately,  then inclusion of commercial  advertisements
    would  pay for distribution of FidoNews.   Of course,  I  have no
    idea how you would distribute any money received.

    To summarize,  this is a thin line to walk.  I  would like to see
    similar material, because I am interested in such things.  If you
    can control this,  everything will be fine.   Furthermore,   this
    case is very clear.   If the next one is similar, then you should
    publish it as well.   However,  what will you do when an  article
    appears  which  treats  a  subject not so  obviously  of  general
    interest?  I would not like to see advertisements for deodorant!


    FidoNews 7-27                Page 28                   2 Jul 1990


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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 29                   2 Jul 1990


    =================================================================
                             LATEST VERSIONS
    =================================================================

                        Latest Software Versions

                             MS-DOS Systems
                             --------------

                          Bulletin Board Software
    Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

    DMG            2.93*   Phoenix         1.3    TAG           2.5e*
    Fido            12s+   QuickBBS       2.64*   TBBS           2.1
    Lynx           1.30    RBBS          17.3A*   TComm/TCommNet 3.4
    Kitten         2.16    RBBSmail      17.3A*   Telegard       2.5*
    Maximus        1.00    RemoteAccess    .03*   TPBoard        6.1*
    Opus           1.12+*  SLBBS          1.76*   Wildcat!      2.10
    PCBoard        14.2*

    Network                Node List              Other
    Mailers     Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities  Version

    BinkleyTerm    2.30    EditNL         4.00    ARC           6.02
    D'Bridge       1.30    MakeNL         2.20    ARCAsim       2.30*
    Dutchie       2.90C    ParseList      1.30    ARCmail       2.07
    FrontDoor     1.99c*   Prune          1.40    ConfMail      4.00
    PRENM          1.47    SysNL          3.11    Crossnet      v1.5*
    SEAdog        4.51b    XlatList       2.90    EMM           2.02
    TIMS      1.0(Mod8)*   XlaxDiff       2.35*   Gmail         2.05
                           XlaxNode       2.35*   GROUP         2.16
                                                  GUS           1.30
                                                  INTERPCB      1.20*
                                                  LHARC         1.13
                                                  MSG            4.1*
                                                  MSGED         1.99
                                                  PK[UN]ZIP     1.10*
                                                  QM             1.0
                                                  QSORT         4.03
                                                  Sirius        1.0w*
                                                  SLMAIL        1.35*
                                                  StarLink      1.01
                                                  TagMail       2.20
                                                  TCOMMail       2.2
                                                  Telemail      1.20*
                                                  TMail         1.15
                                                  TPBNetEd       3.2
                                                  TosScan       1.00*
                                                  UFGATE        1.03
                                                  XRS           3.20*
                                                  ZmailQ        1.10
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 30                   2 Jul 1990


                                Macintosh
                                ---------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Red Ryder Host  v2.1b10   Tabby         2.2   MacArc        0.04
    Mansion            7.15   Copernicus   1.0d*  ArcMac         1.3
    WWIV (Mac)          3.0                       StuffIt       1.51
    FBBS               0.91*                      TImport      1.331
    Hermes             0.88*                      TExport       1.32
                                                  Timestamp      1.6
                                                  Tset           1.3
                                                  Import         3.2
                                                  Export        3.21
                                                  Sundial        3.2
                                                  PreStamp       3.2
                                                  OriginatorII   2.0
                                                  AreaFix        1.6
                                                  Mantissa       3.21
                                                  Zenith         1.5
                                                  UNZIP        1.02b

                                  Amiga
                                  -----

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    Paragon            2.06+  BinkleyTerm  1.00   AmigArc       0.23
                              TrapDoor     1.50*  AReceipt       1.5*
                              WelMat       0.35   booz          1.01
                                                  ConfMail      1.10
                                                  ChameleonEdit 0.10
                                                  ElectricHerald1.66*
                                                  Lharc         1.10
                                                  MessageFilter 1.52*
                                                  oMMM         1.49b
                                                  ParseLst      1.30
                                                  PkAX          1.00
                                                  PK[UN]ZIP     1.01
                                                  PolyxAmy      2.02*
                                                  RMB           1.30
                                                  TrapList      1.12*
                                                  UNzip         0.86
                                                  Yuck!         1.61*
                                                  Zoo           2.00

                                Atari ST
    FidoNews 7-27                Page 31                   2 Jul 1990


                                --------

    Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailer      Other Utilities

    Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

    FIDOdoor/ST        1.5c*  BinkleyTerm 1.03g3  ConfMail      1.00
    Pandora BBS       2.41c   The BOX     1.20    ParseList     1.30
    QuickBBS/ST        0.40                       ARC           6.02*
    GS Point           0.61                       LHARC         0.51
                                                  PKUNZIP       1.10
                                                  MSGED        1.96S
                                                  SRENUM         6.2
                                                  Trenum        0.10
                                                  OMMM          1.40


                               Archimedes
                               ----------

    BBS Software           Mailers                Utilities
    Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

    ARCbbs         1.44*   BinkleyTerm    2.03*   Unzip        2.1TH
                                                  ARC           1.03
                                                  !Spark       2.00d*

                                                  ParseLst      1.30
                                                  BatchPacker   1.00*


    + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
    * Recently changed

    Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
    reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
    all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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    FidoNews 7-27                Page 32                   2 Jul 1990


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                                 NOTICES
    =================================================================

                         The Interrupt Stack


    14 Jul 1990
       Start of Eurocon / Techcon conference in Antwerp, Belgium.
       Please note that the date has changed: The conferences are
       one day later than originally planned !

    15 Jul 1990
       Michael Keller, sysop of 1:170/401, will be wedded to Ruby Morain.

    27 Jul 1990
       The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in
       the Columbia Gorge, Oregon.  For details contact Ken Zwaschka,
       1:105/54.

     1 Aug 1990
       Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for
       details.

    17 Aug 1990
       Start of first ever Searchlight SysOps convention in Chicago, IL.
       Contact Marge Robbins at 1:283/120 for details.

     5 Oct 1990
       21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

     6 Nov 1990
       First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28

    14 Nov 1990
       Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
       2:332/16.0

     1 Jan 1991
       Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
       Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.

    16 Feb 1991
       Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.

     7 Oct 1991
       Area code  415  fragments.   Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
       will  begin  using  area  code  510.   This includes  Oakland,
       Concord, Berkeley  and  Hayward.    San  Francisco, San Mateo,
       Marin, parts of  Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
       Islands will retain area code 415.

    FidoNews 7-27                Page 33                   2 Jul 1990


     1 Feb 1992
       Area  code 213 fragments.    Western,  coastal,  southern  and
       eastern portions of Los Angeles  County  will begin using area
       code 310.  This includes Los  Angeles  International  Airport,
       West  Los  Angeles,  San  Pedro and Whittier.    Downtown  Los
       Angeles  and  surrounding  communities  (such as Hollywood and
       Montebello) will retain area code 213.

     5 Jun 1997
       David Dodell's 40th Birthday


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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