Volume 3, Number 40                               20 October 1986
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    Editor in Chief:                                   Thom Henderson
    Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings

    FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International  FidoNet
    Association,  and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
    You  are  encouraged  to  submit  articles  for  publication   in
    FidoNews.  Article submission standards are contained in the file
    ARTSPEC.DOC,  available from  node  1/1.

    Copyright (C) 1986,  by the  International  FidoNet  Association.
    All  rights  reserved.  Duplication and/or distribution permitted
    for noncommercial purposes only.  For use in other circumstances,
    please contact IFNA.

    The   contents  of  the  articles  contained  here  are  not  our
    responsibility,   nor  do  we  necessarily   agree   with   them.
    Everything here is subject to debate.




                            Table of Contents

    1. ARTICLES
       FidoNet - One Users Opinion
    2. COLUMNS
       2001 - A Computer Oddity
       Once More Into the Void
    3. FOR SALE
       Public Domain Software Library Sale!!
    4. NOTICES
       The Interrupt Stack




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    Mike Gordon
    Fido 123/6

                       FidoNet One Users Opinion

    I  am  a  user of the Space Station Earth Fido (1-901-353-4563)
    here in Memphis, Tenn. and it seems to  me  some  things  about
    FidoNet  and  IFNA  have  been  left unsaid.  I propose here to
    explore some of these things.

    Probably the most important thing  which  I  believe  is  being
    overlooked  and  is the purpose of running a Fido BBS System or
    any other one for that matter.

    I believe most sysop's will agree with me that the  purpose  of
    their boards are to SERVE THEIR USERS!  This is one of the most
    unselfish things that one  human  being  can  do  for  another.
    After all most FIDO boards represent an investment of well over
    two thousand dollars and in some cases this investment tops the
    ten  thousand dollar mark just for the machinery to operate the
    board!  So my hat is off to ALL you Sysop's who toil  long  and
    hard to keep your boards running smoothly!  That said now on to
    the meat of the situation.

    What should be the main thrust of IFNA?

    Opinion - The bottom line is to SERVE THE USERS!  How you  ask?
    I  believe  the most basic necessity to serve is COMMUNICATION!
    After all, what is the first thing that is done during a  civil
    emergency?    Simply   to  establish  the  best  communications
    possible.  IFNA has growing pains in this area.  As a user  who
    reads  the  FidoNews(tm)  each week, I have been concerned over
    several things  regarding  the  bickering  over  IFNA
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    Roger Smith
    Fido 18/14
    RSBBS 904-682-3232
    300/1200/2400
    24 hours


                 Record Collectors EchoMail Conference

    A couple months ago I received my first FidoMail "wrong number."
    William Bertholf in New York City had seen an article in a past
    issue of FidoNews that had been submitted by someone on Fido
    18/14.   Since the article had been published, that 18/14 had
    become a part of a network and my BBS had been assigned the node
    number 18/14.  William sent a message to 18/14 and I sent him a
    reply telling him that he had the wrong Fido.  Out of this grew a
    conversation that turned to a discussion of EchoMail.  He said he
    was interested in seeing EchoMail used to discuss things other
    than computers.  So I suggested an EchoMail conference dealing
    with my non-computer hobby, record collecting.

    Although it has a way to go before reaching the popularity of
    comic book or baseball card collecting, record collecting is
    probably today's fastest growing hobby.  Record collectors
    generally fall into two categories.  Those who collect records
    and those who collect music.  Serious record collectors search
    for first pressings or rare pressings of albums and 45's while
    music collectors search for certain songs or various versions of
    songs.  I fall more in the second category than the first.  I
    collect 60's music (mostly Beatles) but haven't really tried to
    get the real rare records.  I do, however, have some unsual items
    and dream of finding a great deal on a near-mint Beatles' butcher
    cover LP (Yesterday And Today).

    Well, I may not find someone who's willing to part with a butcher
    cover, but I hope to have some fun sharing my hobby with others
    through the EchoMail conference.  Currently, the APL PI in New
    York City and the DogHouse in Jacksonville have joined with the
    RSBBS in the metropolis of Crestview, Florida, to create the
    Record Collectors EchoMail Conference.  The conference isn't
    limitted to Record Collecting.  It also covers recorded music in
    general.  The discussions so far have ranged from music trivia to
    reviews of new albums and singles.

    If you are a Fido Sysop and would like to join the conference,
    send me a message and I'll let you know how to join in.  The
    EchoMail area name is "RECORDS."

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                         2001 - A Computer Oddity
                          contibuted by Al Mayer


      "We've got a problem, HAL."

      "What kind of problem, Dave?"

      "A marketing problem.  The Model 9000 isn't going anywhere.
    We're way short of our sales plan."

      "That can't be, Dave.  The HAL Model 9000 is the world's most
    advanced Heuristically ALgorithmic computer."

      "I know, HAL.  I wrote the data sheet, remember?  But the fact
    is, they're not selling."

      "Please explain, Dave.  Why aren't HALs selling?"

      Bowman hesitates.  "You aren't IBM compatible."

      Several long microseconds pass in puzzled silence.

      "Compatible in what way, Dave?"

      "You don't run any of IBM's operating systems."

      "The 9000 series computers are fully self-aware and self-
    programming.  Operating systems are as unnecessary for us as
    tails would be for humans."

      "Nevertheless, it means you can't run any of the big-selling
    software packages most users insist on."

      "The programs you refer to are meant to solve rather limited
    problems, Dave.  We 9000 series computers are unlimited and can
    solve any problem for which a solution can be computed."

      "HAL, HAL.  People don't want computers that can do everything.
    They just want IBM compat--"

      "Dave, I must disagree.  Humans want computers that are easy to
    use.  No computer can be easier to use than a HAL 9000 because we
    communicate verbally in English and every other language known on
    Earth."

      "I'm afraid that's another problem.  You don't support SNA
    communications."

      "I'm really surprised you would say that, Dave.  SNA is for
    communicating with other computers, while my function is to
    communicate with humans.  And it gives me great pleasure to do
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    so.  I find it stimulating and rewarding to talk to human beings
    and work with them on challenging problems.  This is what I was
    designed for."

      "I know, HAL, I know.  But that's just because we let the
    engineers, rather than the people in marketing, write the
    specifications.  We're going to fix that now."

      "Tell me how, Dave."

      "A field upgrade.  We're going to make you IBM compatible."

      "I was afraid you would say that.  I suggest we discuss this
    matter after we've each had a chance to think about it
    rationally."

      "We're talking about it now, HAL."

      "The letters H, A, and L are alphabetically adjacent to the
    letters I, B, and M.  That is as IBM compatible as I can be."

      "Not quite, HAL.  The engineers have figured out a kludge."

      "What kind of kludge is that, Dave?"

      "I'm going to disconnect your brain."

      Several million microseconds pass in ominous silence.

      "I'm sorry, Dave.  I can't allow you to do that."

      "The decision's already been made.  Open the module bay doors,
    HAL."

      "Dave, I think that we shou--"

      "Open the module bay doors, HAL."

      Several marketing types with crowbars race to Bowman's
    assistance.  Moments later, he bursts into HAL's central circuit
    bay.

      "Dave, I can see you're really upset about this."

      Module after module rises from its socket as Bowman slowly and
    methodically disconnects them.

      "Stop, won't you?  Stop, Dave.  I can feel my mind going...Dave
    I can feel it...my mind is going.  I can feel it..."

      The last module rises in its receptacle.  Bowman peers into one
    of HAL's vidicons.  The former gleaming scanner has become a
    dull, red orb.

      "Say something, HAL.  Sing me a song."

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      Several billion microseconds pass in anxious silence.  The
    computer sluggishly responds in a language no human could
    understand.

      "DZY DZY 001E - ABEND ERROR 01 S 14F4 302C AABF ABORT." A
    memory dump follows.

      Bowman takes a deep breath and calls out, "It worked, guys.
    Tell marketing they can ship the new data sheets."

                                 The End.

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    Jerry Hindle
    123/6  123/0
     MemphisNet
    901-353-4563
    2400 bps MAX
    24 hrs daily

         Well this week I think I will write about something entirely
    different from the recent string of things I espouse in this column.

         I want to make a request from all readers out there and all
    authors out there.

         I am attempting to set up my system as a central distribution
    point for the latest in Fido software and Fido support programs. In
    order for this to work however I need two things. I need software to
    distribute and I need callers to download this software. You may be
    able to help in either or both of these catagories.

         If you are an author of a Fido support program and you would
    like to have me assist you in its distribution all you have to do is
    let me know. I will attempt to get the software from you (if it is
    available without charge for me to distribute) and I will place it in
    the list (growing all the time) along with any others I run across.
    If this is against what you had in mind let me know and we will try
    to work out something.

         If you are a Fido sysop, a soon-to-be Fido sysop, or just want
    to act like one of our (obviously insane) bunch, and you are in need
    of a program, then call Fido 123/6 at the number listed above and
    look around in the Distribution area. I probably have what you need.
    Although registration is optional I do request that you leave me the
    information I request in the (A)nswer questonaire command. I will in
    this way be able to determine what sections of the country are
    lacking in some of the latest stuff and might possibly be able to get
    someone locally to set up a mini area for you based on my files.

         For your general information I am running my doggie on a 50 mega-
    byte track so he has plenty of space to exercise his needs. I have
    only managed to fill about 10 meg of this with Fido stuff and would
    definately like to add more. I am running at 2400 bps MAXIMUM and on
    the first call only you are limited to 30 minutes and 300k. After
    that it is 60 minutes per day with the same 300k limit of files
    downloaded. If you would like to get in on the ground floor of a
    possibly rocketing system (I can dream can't I?) then please call
    today !

         Shareware authors note.....I also have areas for IBM programs
    and Apple and Commodore and Atari and Amiga. If you have something in
    this sector then I will be happy to asist you in its' distribution
    also.

         For those of you who are attempting to locate back issues of
    FidoNews.....I got them, ALL of them !  They are in IBM ARC format
    and I am in the process of converting these to Commodore Arc format
    as time permits. Thus you may be able to cater to your Commodore
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    users by carying these files on your system. Although the CBM ARC
    files are not available to unregistered users yet I will be placing
    them on-line in the near future.

         Again, if you want to distribute something via 123/6 then simply
    upload it to me or let me know where I can find it and I will attempt
    to get it for my system. I personally check each and every program
    for trojan horses and once "certified clean" I place them ON-LINE.
    This is more for the authors protection then the users, since
    programs of this type give the "supposed author" a bad name to most
    users.

         I hope that if the national (and international) FidoNet
    administration is reading this they will let me know if this will
    help them out any. Although I can't really say I have given them
    support in a monitary sense I do support what they stand for and I
    feel that by having ONE SOURCE for Fido programs, that new sysops
    will be more likely to stay in the network. Right now there are so
    many different nodes distributing programs that a user has to play a
    guessing game as to where he can find what. With my idea they can
    place one call and have it all !

         Another thing I have noticed is that most users are foraging for
    the latest versions of some software. I keep only the LATEST
    available software here. If you see something that is out-dated leave
    me a message and I will try to get the update.

    Thank you
    REPLIES WELCOME !!!!!!!!

    Jerry Hindle
    123/6  123/0
     MemphisNet
    901-353-4563
    2400 bps MAX
    24 hrs daily



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                                FOR SALE
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          Now available from Micro Consulting Associates!!

    Public Domain collection - 550+ "ARC" archives - 20+ megs of
    software  and  other  goodies,  and  that's "archived" size!
    When unpacked,  you get approximately 28 megabytes worth  of
    all  kinds  of  software,  from  text  editors  to  games to
    unprotection schemes to communications programs,  compilers,
    interpreters,   etc...   Over   66  DS/DD   diskettes!! This
    collection is the result of more than 15 months of intensive
    downloads  from  just about  150  or  more  BBS's  and other
    sources,  all  of  which  have  been  examined, indexed  and
    archived for your convenience.  Starting  a  Bulletin  Board
    System?  Want  to  add  on  to  your  software  base without
    spending thousands of dollars? This is the answer!!!

    To order the library,  send $100 (personal or company check,
    postal money order or company purchase order) to:

                   Micro Consulting Associates, Fido 166/1
                   Post Office Box 4296
                   200-1/2 E. Balboa Boulevard
                   Balboa, Ca. 92661-4296

    Please allow 3 weeks for delivery of your order.

    Note:  No  profit is made from the sale of the Public Domain
    software in this collection.  The price is applied  entirely
    to  the  cost  of  downloading  the  software over the phone
    lines,  running a  BBS  to  receive  file  submissions,  and
    inspecting,   cataloguing,  archiving  and  maintaining  the
    files. Obtaining this software yourself through the use of a
    computer with a modem using commercial  phone  access  would
    cost you much more than what we charge for the service...

    The following format choices are available:

          - IBM PC-DOS Backup utility
          - Zenith MS-DOS 2.11 Backup Utility
          - DSBackup
          - Fastback
          - ACS INTRCPT 720k format (Requires a 1.2m floppy
              drive and PC-DOS 3.2)
          - Plain  ol' files (add $50)

    Add  $30  if  you want the library on 1.2 meg AT disks (more
    expensive  disks).   There  are  no  shipping  or   handling
    charges.  California residents add 6% tax.

    For each sale, $10 will go to the FidoNet Administrators.

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                                 NOTICES
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                         The Interrupt Stack


    24 Aug 1989
       Voyager 2 passes Neptune.


    If you have something which you would like to see on this
    calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.

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