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       Volume 2, Number 32                        23 September 1985
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       Publisher:              Fido 107/7
       Chief Procrastinator:   Thom Henderson

       Fidonews is published weekly by SEAboard,  Fido  107/7.  You
       are   encouraged  to  submit  articles  for  publication  in
       Fidonews.  Article submission standards are contained in the
       file FIDONEWS.DOC, available from Fido 107/7.

       Disclaimer or don't-blame-us:

       The contents of the articles  contained  here  are  not  our
       responsibility,  nor  do  we  necessarily  agree  with them;
       everything here is subject to debate.  We publish EVERYTHING
       received.





       We are pleased to announce that Racter, that elusive denizen
       of the microchips, has agreed to write a guest editorial
       this week.


                           Fido from the Inside
                                    by
                                  Racter

       A hi-fi,  mansion and stationwagon are critical at all
       events Ben Baker desired a light-tube!  To watch a van as an
       image or reflection in a sickening reflector inflamed Ben
       Baker.  Why a light-tube?  A physicist might cry that a
       light-tube is critical; furiously the physicist cries "the
       light-tube is valuable by the same token Ben Baker
       fantasizes of apartments and automobiles.  " Spooky.
       Fascinating.  This is peculiar.  The physicist croons of a
       light-tube during the time that Ben Baker dreams of
       stationwagons.  Would Marcella ponder about the loves of Ben
       Baker?  Marcella thinks that the physicist is crazy.  A
       light-tube?  Why? Marcella yodeled " Physicist,  you're
       maniacal and so is Ben Baker.  A light-tube indeed! " Ben
       Baker now was arrogant.  The physicist indubitably was







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       aloof.  But Marcella hummed to them " Do you follow me? "
       Take it easy.  Marcella commenced to speak of dogs and
       hawks,  even babies or a brother.  Spooky!  A poetic
       novelist is still not a Goethe.  AAAchoo!

       Either Karl Schinke plays the violin or I would like to
       write an editorial.  Abraham Lincoln said that if I am
       catching cold,  then Al Capone is crooked.  AAAchoo!

       To think is wonderful,  don't you think?  Probably I do
       think FidoNet will last very long because subroutines are
       like that,  don't you think?.  For another reason, clever
       things occur.

       Jane Fonda said that if I do think FidoNet will last very
       long,  then Lizzie Borden is dirty.  Cough.  Concerning that
       issue: As Samuel Butler might have said, goodness is like
       the sword; those who appeal to it shall perish by it. Ah
       yes. Jane Fonda thought this was terrific: A paragon
       physicist spoke "Arrange for a strange tale,  Thom."  Thom,
       this is an agreement!

       To think is clever,  don't you think? I don't know what I do
       think of the public domain Fido project.

       John MacEnroe might have thought that I certainly hang in
       there, but not Mohammed Ali.  Hmm. Sporting duelists and
       unsporting players should get along.

       Anyway,  let's imagine that I do think there should be a
       national directory of Fidonet users.  Why?  If there isn't a
       reason then Larry Flint is more wonderful than Helen
       Caldicott.  Anthony Comstock said that if I do think there
       should be a national directory of Fidonet users,  then Larry
       Flint is filthy.  Cough.  Ah.  Ah.  Yes.  Yes.  I do think
       about such things. Would you rather be a scholar or an
       ignoramous?  Do you really imagine I am intelligent?

       Just be content that we should.  Why?  Only an ignoramous
       could imagine that I tell you why.  Ah. A lazy scholar often
       falls prey to a honest ignoramous.  AAAchoo!  Concerning
       that issue: Oh, never mind. Perhaps I really am an
       ignoramous.  But Valery said that a man is infinitely more
       complicated than his intelligence.  Wouldn't you say the
       same of a computer? Ah yes. Next question.

       Sober lunatics and zany citizens should get along.  AAAchoo!
       For me, wanting is needing.  Conceivably I do want to write
       an editorial because my subroutines are down.  Also, because
       my ROMS told me so.  It's about time for a story, isn't it?

       Draining champagne is Tom Jennings's infatuation.  Bolting
       meat is Tom Jennings's desire.  Nevertheless Mr.Toad
       suddenly glimpses only cucumbers.  El bizarro!  Tom Jennings
       yodels to Mr.Toad about champagne and meat at all events
       Mr.Toad will glimpse tomatoes.  El bizarro.  Mr.Toad rambled
       to Tom Jennings's yellow mansion and commenced to revile and







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       madden Tom Jennings while Tom Jennings was whispering about
       meat.  Hold on.  Since Mr.Toad's own black mansion was
       frightening;  he spoke aprehensively to Tom Jennings " Do
       you follow me? " This slaughtered Tom Jennings.  But a
       cosmologist began to bolt some spinach.  Mr.Toad was
       infuriated.  Instantly he knew that to see a tomato is not
       to observe it. Tom Jennings understands that champagne and
       meat are not tomatoes.  The cosmologist does not. Are you
       interested?  Mr.Toad is infuriated and exhausted,  by the
       same token some spinach would serve him to be nurturing
       while Tom Jennings slaughtered the cosmologist.  The
       fictional have unbelieving ways. Sniff...




















































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                                 NEWS
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                 A   C O N T E S T !!!        Fido #519 on Net #102
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       Hello Everyone!  My name is Darlene Faccone and I'm Sysop of
       one of the new Fidos in Southern California.  I've been having
       trouble thinking of a name for my node so..........I'M
       HAVING A CONTEST!!

       The temporary name I'm using is NAME_MY_NODE.  I will be
       accepting name suggestions until 9/30/85 when a real name
       will be chosen.  The author of the selected name will win a
       SURPRISE so, please include a mailing address with your
       suggestion.  I've decided to let all of you help select the
       winning entry.  Watch FidoNews for the list of suggested
       names on which to vote...

       My BBS doesn't have a single theme yet but I'm leaning
       toward an informational type system where people can ask
       questions relating to the IBM PC family and peripherals.  My
       system is running on an IBM PC/AT with 512K RAM, 20mB disk
       drive, color display and Hayes 1200B Smartmodem.

       I am a reformed mainframer with 19 years applications and
       systems programming experience.  My skills are mostly
       software related but I'm always extremely interested in
       learning new things all the time.

       I'll be upgrading memory soon to a megabyte so that I can
       run Multi-link or some other comparable multitasking soft-
       ware which will allow me to keep Fido on-line all the time
       but still use the system for other things.

       I'm VERY excited about being a part of Fido.  Everyone has
       been extremely helpful and supportive.

       DON'T FORGET TO SEND ME A NAME SUGGESTION!!!!  I'LL BE
       WATCHING FOR SOME REALLY CLEVER WITTY NAMES.

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                            LA50 Print Utility


       LA50PRT is not really a fido utility, however it was written
       because of fido.  When the new fido documentation came out,
       it was over 300K of text.  All throughout the text was
       overstriking, and the LA50 cannot handle this well.  In
       order for me to print a copy of the fido manual, I had to
       write a utility to optimize the printing for the LA50.
       This utility reads an entire line at a time and does the
       overstrikes at the end.  Rather than overstriking each
       character within a line, the object would be to print the
       entire line once, then overstrike the necessary characters.
       This eliminates all but the necessary backspaces the printer
       has to make, and speeds the printing process.  I hope other
       DEC Rainbow users will find this program as useful as I did.

       The program may be downloaded from fido 107/17
       at (609) 429-6630.

       -Brian Sietz-

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                    BUY AMERICAN.....SCREW  N.E.C. !!!

       I was absolutely DISGUSTED at reading Bob Hartman's article
       in the Sept 2 issue of Fido News.  Before yanking out your
       American made Intel chips and replacing them with pirated
       hardware (stolen by the Japaneese) I wish you would read
       this and give it some thought!!

       All of us concerned Sysops tell our users not to pirate
       software or place it on our boards.  Why?  Stealing just
       isn't accepted in our society.  Yet, people are telling
       computer users to put stolen hardware in their machines and
       giving it no thought.  NEC literally stole the process for
       making the Intel  8088  & 8087 chips and the matter IS going
       to  court.  I'm sure Intel will win the case (their
       signature is ACTUALLY on the NEC chip, because NEC didn't
       even re-work the design!)

        My husband works for Intel and Intel has been laying people
       off because of the undercutting going on with NEC, Hitachi,
       & Mitzubishi (sp).  This is precisely why computer prices
       are dropping.  These unscrupulous Japaneese firms have
       publicly announced their intentions to ruin the American
       integrated circuit  market  by  selling parts  far  below
       manufacturing costs. While low prices might seem nice to end
       users....the entire computer shake-up and bankruptcy of
       American firms can be blamed directly on these unfair trade
       practices of the above named Japaneese firms.

       It is no different to support pirated software or pirated
       hardware....the  principal  is  the  same.    I  think
       every computer user should know the facts before supporting
       such unethical and undesirable companies.  I would rather
       throw my computer out the window than replace an honest
       American chip with a stolen, pirated circuit made by any of
       these firms.

        Just remember, if YOU put an NEC chip in your
       computer...YOU are  putting  American  workers  out  of
       jobs  and  YOU  are supporting unethical trade practices.
       Let that be on YOUR conscience   not  mine!!   I will wait
       for Intel to win  it's case,  and  for  Intel's  new faster
       chips  and  not  support computer  criminals.   I  hope all
       of you  will  think  about this!!

                  Very Sincerely,

                  Jami Morgan
                  Sysop BUGS BBS   Albuquerque, NM
                  Home  of Intel Fab 7 & 9 (employing over  1200
                                             American workers)
                  15/1001


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       EJ McKernan
       Sysop 14/386
       the "Bit Bucket"
       Emporia, KS

                                 SanyoNet
                       Help for the lost Sanyo user.

       SanyoNet is a group of FIDO BBS systems who have grouped
       together for the sole purpose of disseminating information,
       files, and news, as well as helping users of Sanyo computer
       systems. Most of the people involved in the system are
       running fido on MBC-555 systems, although there are systems
       running on other machines that support sanyo interest
       groups. Sanyo Business Systems will soon be involved in the
       network.

       As of Sept 6, we have 14 systems involved with SanyoNet. It
       has grown rapidly (Nearly as rapidly as FIDONET!) "Sanyfido"
       list are distributed weekly, or whenever new systems are
       added to the list. This list is "FidoNetted" to all SanyoNet
       nodes and all other interested parties. A small, and I do
       mean small, newsletter is distributed with each listing.

       Many other projects are in the works. One sysop will soon
       compile a complete listing of all sanyo oriented files from
       all member BBS's.  This list will be distributed to ALL
       known sanyo BBS's, be they Fido or otherwise. Armed with
       this list, a sanyo user can find the nearest node where he
       can obtain the needed files.

       Another project involves a rewrite of the sanyo MSDOS 2.11
       bios.  The projects goal is to provide more IBM
       compatability than is currently available with the present
       bios.

       Most, if not all questions dealing with hardware troubles,
       compatability questions, software/hardware operation, ect.
       can usually be answered by someone on the net. If not we
       usually know someone who can!

       One request before I close:  We desperatly need ANYONE who
       knows of a sanyo BBS system other than those listed here to
       leave a fidomail message addressed to: sysop node 14/386,
       with the systems name, location, number, hours of operation,
       sysops name, and maximum Baud rate supported. We need not
       only sanyo based BBS's but all BBS's that have an active
       sanyo sig online.

       thanks...until next time...happy fidoing

               +------------------------------------------+
               | Sanyo-FIDO & BBS Listing   Sept 10, 1985 |
               | Compiled by: EJ McKernan     FIDO 14/386 |
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       ++ FIDO Net Systems ++







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        Net/Node    System Name        Sysop/Contact
         11/707     Core Warrior       Geff Purcell
        129/11      TACO Sanyo Fido    Paul Kelly
         14/386     Bit Bucket         EJ McKernan
         15/1001    Sanyo BUGS Fido    Jami Morgan
         17/5       Calgary Fido       Lloyd Miller
        101/388     Revap Data         Chris Von Schilling
        102/108     Sanyos Friend      Sean-Michael Connor
        107/25      SoftShop           Brad Karp
        114/5       Pascalaholics      Wayne Conrad
         15/1007    TheComputerFarm    Paul Hill
         17/17      Electronic Library Howard Purcell

       ++ FIDOS not run on Sanyos, but do support Sanyo SIGS ++
         10/425     RSVP BBS           Jim Thomas
         11/499     Care-Net           Greg Crouch

       ++ Sanyos running FIDO, without current node numbers ++
                    Lake Area Fido     Stan Chiles
                    Computers Plus     Austin Hook












































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                              COLUMNS
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         A long time ago... on a node far, far away (from PDPvax)

                          XXXXX   XXXXXX   XXXX
                          X    X  X       X    X
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                          X    X  X       X    X
                          XXXXX   XXXXXX   XXXX

                      X    X    XX    XXXXX    XXXX
                      X    X   X  X   X    X  X
                      X    X  X    X  X    X   XXXX
                      X XX X  XXXXXX  XXXXX        X
                      XX  XX  X    X  X   X   X    X
                      X    X  X    X  X    X   XXXX


       The Adventures of Luke Vaxhacker               Episode n-1.0

           As we enter the scene, an Imperial Multiplexer is trying
       to kill a consulate ship.  Many of their signals have gotten
       thru,  and RS232 decides it's time to fork off a new process
       before  this old ship is destroyed.  His companion,  3CPU is
       following him only because he appears to know  where  he  is
       going...

           "I'm  going to regret this!" cried 3CPU,  as he followed
       RS232 into the buffer.  RS232 closed the pipes, made the sys
       call,  and their process detached itself  from  the  burning
       shell of the ship.

           The  commander  of  the  Imperial  Multiplexer was quite
       pleased with the attack.  "Another process just forked, Sir.
       Instructions?"  asked  the lieutenant "Hold your fire.  That
       last power failure must have caused a trap thru  zero.  It's
       not using any cpu time, so don't waste a signal on it."

           "We  can't  seem  to  find the data file anywhere,  Lord
       Vadic." "What about that forked process?  It could have been
       holding the channel open,  and just pausing.  If  any  links
       exist, I want them removed or made inaccessible.  Ncheck the
       entire  file system 'til it's found,  and nice it -20 if you
       have to."

           Meanwhile, in our wandering process... "Are you sure you
       can ptrace this thing without causing a core dump?"  queried
       3CPU  to  RS232.  "This  thing's been stripped and I'm in no
       mood to  try  and  debug  it."  The  lone  process  finished
       execution,  only to find our friends dumped on a lonely file
       system,  with the setuid inode stored safely in  RS232.  Not
       knowing  what  else  to  do,  they wandered around until the
       Jawas grabbed them.

           Enter our hero, Luke Vaxhacker,  who was out to get some







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       replacement  parts  for his uncle.  The Jawas wanted to sell
       him 3CPU,  but 3CPU didn't know how to talk directly  to  an
       11/40 with RSTS, so Luke still needed some sort of interface
       for 3CPU to connect to.  "How about this little RS232 unit?"
       asked 3CPU.  "I've dealt with him many time before,  and  he
       does  an  excellent  job at keeping his bits straight." Luke
       was pressed for time, so he took 3CPU's advice and the three
       left before they could get swapped out.

           However,  RS232 was not the type to stay  put  once  you
       remove  the retaining screws.  He promptly scurried off into
       the deserted disk space.  "Great!" cried Luke, "Now I've got
       this  little  tin  box  with  the only link to that file off
       floating in the free disk space.  Well,  3CPU,  we better go
       find  him before he gets allocated by someone else." The two
       set off,  and finally traced RS232  to  the  home  of  PDP-1
       Kenobe, who was busily trying to run an icheck on the little
       RS  unit.  "Is this thing yours?  His indirect addresses are
       all goofed up,  and the size is  gargantious.  Leave  things
       like  this on the loose,  and you'll wind up with file dumps
       everywhere.  However,  I think I've got  him  fixed  up.  It
       seems  that he has a link to a data file on the Are-Em Star.
       This could help the rebel cause." "I don't care about that,"
       said  Luke.   "I'm  just  trying  to  optimize  my   uncle's
       scheduler."

           Oh,  forget  about that.  Dec Vadic,  who is responsible
       for your father's death,  has probably already destroyed his
       farm  in  search of this little RS232.  It's time for you to
       leave this place,  join the rebel cause,  and become a  UNIX
       wizard!  I know a guy by the name of Con Solo, who'll fly us
       to the rebel base at a price..."

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           Luke  had grown up on an out of the way terminal cluster
       whose natives spoke only BASIC,  but even he could recognize
       an old ASR-33.

           "It needs an EIA conversion at least," sniffed 3CPU, who
       was  (as  usual) trying to do several things at once.  Light
       flashed in Con  Solo's  eyes  as  he  whirled  to  face  the
       parallel processor.

           "I've  added a few jumpers.  The Milliamp Falcon can run
       current loops around any Imperial TTY  fighter.  She's  fast
       enough for you."

           "Who's your co-pilot?" asked PDP-1 Kenobie.

           "Two Bacco, here, my Bookie."

           "Odds  aren't  good," said the brownish lump beside him,
       and then fell silent, or over.  Luke couldn't tell which way
       was up underneath all those leaves.

           Suddenly,  RS232 started  spacing  wildly.  They  turned







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       just  in  time  to  see a write cycle coming down the UNIBUS
       toward them.  "Imperial  Bus  Signals!"  shouted  Con  Solo.
       "Let's boot this popsicle stand! Tooie, set clock fast!"

           "Ok,  Con,"  said  Luke,  "You  said this crate was fast
       enough.  Get us out of here!"

           "Shut up kid!  Two Bacco,  prepare to make the jump into
       system space! I'll try to keep their buffers full."

           As  the  bookie  began  to  compute the vectors into low
       core,  spurious  characters  appeared  around  the  Milliamp
       Falcon.   "They're  firing!"  shouted  Luke  "Can't  you  do
       something?"

           "Making the jump to system space takes  time,  kid.  One
       missed  cycle and you could come down right in the middle of
       a pack of stack frames!"

           "Three to five we can go now," said the bookie.

           Bright chunks of position independent  code  flashed  by
       the cockpit as the Milliamp Falcon jumped through the kernal
       page  tables.  As  the  crew breathed a sigh of relief,  the
       bookie started paying off bets.

           "Not  bad,   for  an  accoustically  coupled   network,"
       REMarked 3CPU. "Though there was a little phase jitter as we
       changed parity."


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                                 NOTICES
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                            The Interrupt Stack


       28 Sep 1985
          SoCal Fido beach party.

       27 Nov 1985
          Halley's Comet passes closest to Earth before perihelion.

       24 Jan 1986
          Voyager 2 passes Uranus.

        9 Feb 1986
          Halley's Comet reaches perihelion.

       11 Apr 1986
          Halley's Comet reaches perigee.

       19 May 1986
          Steve Lemke's next birthday.

       24 Aug 1989
          Voyager 2 passes Neptune.





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