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                                                       Brian Harvey
                                                              SU-AI
Re: File Transfer Protocol                              May 28, 1975
Ref: RFC 354, 385, 414, 448, 454, 630, 542, 640                        1

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  This is a slight revision of RFC 686, mainly differing in the
  discussion of print files.  Reading several RFCs that I (sigh)
  never heard of before writing 686 has convinced me that although
  I was right all along it was for the wrong reasons.  The list of
  reply codes is also slightly different to reflect the four lists
  in RFCs 354, 454, 542, and 640 more completely.  Let me also
  suggest that if there are no objections before June 1, everyone
  take it as official that HELP should return 200, that SRVR should
  be used as discussed below, and that "permanent" 4xx errors be
  changed to 5xx.  And thanks to Jon Postel who just spent all
  evening helping me straighten this all out.                        2a

  Aside from a cry of anguish by the site responsible for the
  security hassle described below, I've only had one comment on
  this, which was unfavorable but, alas, unspecific.  Let me just
  say, in the hopes of avoiding more such, that I am not just
  trying to step on toes for the fun of it, and that I don't think
  the positive changes to FTP-1 proposed here are necessarily the
  best possible thing.  What they are, I think, is easily doable.
  The great-FTP-in-the-sky isn't showing any signs of universal
  acceptability, and it shouldn't stand in the way of solving
  immediate problems.                                                2b

                     Leaving Well Enough Alone                        3

I recently decided it was time for an overhaul of our FTP user and
server programs.  This was my first venture into the world of
network protocols, and I soon discovered that there was a lot we
were doing wrong--and a few things that everyone seemed to be doing
differently from each other.  When I enquired about this, the
response from some quarters was "Oh, you're running Version 1!"        4

Since, as far as I can tell, all but one network host are running
version 1, and basically transferring files OK, it seems to me that
the existence on paper of an unused protocol should not stand in the
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believe that the new one is either imminent or strongly superior or
both.  (I understand, by the way, that FTP-2 represents a lot of
thought and effort by several people who are greater network experts
than I, and that it isn't nice of me to propose junking all that
work, and I hereby apologize for it.)  Let me list what strike me as
the main differences in FTP-2 and examine their potential impact on
the world.                                                             5

  1.  FTP-2 uses TELNET-2.  The main advantage of the new Telnet
  protocol is that it allows flexible negotiation about things like
  echoing.  But the communicators in the case of FTP are computer
  programs, not people, and don't want any echoing anyway.  The
  argument that new hosts might not know about old Telnet seems an
  unlikely one for quite some time to come; if TELNET-2 ever does
  really take over the world, FTP-1 could be implemented in it.      5a

  2.  FTP-2 straightens out the "print file" mess.  First of all,
  there are two separate questions here: what command one ought to
  give to establish a print file transfer, and which end does what
  sort of conversion.  For the second question, although all of the
  FTP-1 documents are confusing on the subject, I think it is
  perfectly obvious what to do: if the user specifies, and the
  server accepts, an ASCII or EBCDIC print file transfer parameter
  sequence, then the data sent over the network should contain
  Fortran control characters.  That is, the source file should
  contain Fortran controls, and should be sent over the net as is,
  and reformatted if necessary not by the SERVER as the protocol
  says but by the RECIPIENT (server for STOR, user for RETR). (The
  "Telnet print file" non-issue will be debunked below.)
  As a non-Fortran-user I may be missing something here but I don't
  think so; it is just like the well-understood TYPE E in which the
  data is sent in EBCDIC and the recipient can format it for local
  use as desired.  One never reformats a file from ASCII to EBCDIC
  at the sending end.  Perhaps the confusion happened because the
  protocol authors had in mind using these types to send files
  directly to a line printer at the server end, and indeed maybe
  that's all it's good for and nobody's user program will implement
  TYPE P RETR.                                                       5b

  As for the specific commands used to negotiate such a transfer,
  there may currently be some confusion because the most recent
  FTP-1 document on the subject (RFC 454) invents a new command,
  FORM, which is not in general use as far as I know.  (Most of my





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  experiments have been on PDP-10s; perhaps other systems have
  adopted this command.)  FTP-2 puts the format argument in the
  TYPE command as a second argument. Either way, using a
  two-dimensional scheme to specify the combinations of
  ASCII/EBCDIC and ASA/normal conveys no more information than the
  present A-P-E-F scheme.  FTP-2 also introduces the notion of
  Telnet formatted vs. non-print files.  These types are used when
  a Telnet format oriented system is sending a file to an ASA
  oriented one, and the recipient needs to know, not what is coming
  over the net, but how to solve a local file storage problem.  It
  is unnecessary and unfair for hosts to have to negotiate
  something which does not acttually affect what gets sent over the
  net.  It is unnecessary because the sending user process (there
  is no problem if the user process is receiving) need not
  understand what the issue is, it need only make the server
  understand by transmitting a message from the human user to the
  server process.  Any TYPE parameter must be understood by both
  processes even if the user treats it just like some other type.    5c

  To take a specific example, if I want to send an ASCII file to a
  360, my FTP user program needs to have built into it the
  knowledge that there are two TYPEs which are really the same, AN
  and AT in the FTP-2 notation. If tomorrow someone needs to know
  the ultimate use of a binary file (for instance, the old PDP-6
  DECtape format stores dump files differently from ordinary data
  files), I will have to add another piece of information to my FTP
  user and server (maybe they try to read such a file from me).
  Instead, information which affects only the RECIPIENT of a file,
  and not the format AS SENT OVER THE NET, should be specified in
  some form which the sending process can ignore.  This is what the
  SRVR command should be used for.                                   5d

  If a user at a 360 wants to retrieve a "Telnet print file" from
  another system, he might tell his FTP user process something like  5e

     TYPE A
     DISP PRINT
     RETR FOO etc.                                                  5e1

  (or whatever syntax they use in their FTP).  If a user at a 10
  wants to send such a file to a 360, he would say                   5f

     TYPE A





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     SRVR PRINT
     STOR FOO etc.                                                  5f1

  His FTP user program would send on the SRVR command without
  comment. Suppose that the transformation is one which might be
  used in either direction between the same two hosts.  (This is
  not the case for the Telnet print file thing because two 360s
  would be using ASA format.)  Then the user process could accept
  the equivalent of DISP PRINT from the user, and if the transfer
  turned out to be a STOR it would decide to send SRVR PRINT first.
  In this way the FTP user program can be written so that the human
  user types the same command regardless of the direction of
  transfer.                                                          5g

  Thus, FTP servers which care about the distinction between Telnet
  print and non-print could implement SRVR N and SRVR T.  Ideally
  the SRVR parameters should be registered with Jon Postel to avoid
  conflicts, although it is not a disaster if two sites use the
  same parameter for different things.  I suggest that parameters
  be allowed to be more than one letter, and that an initial letter
  X be used for really local idiosyncracies.  The following should
  be considered as registered:                                       5h

     T - Telnet print file                                          5h1

     N - Normal.                                                    5h2

        Means to turn off any previous SRVR in effect. (This makes
        "non-print" the default case, rather than
        making "Telnet print" and "non-print" equal.  It is
        probably a good idea if a user program can count on
        being able to turn off an earlier SRVR without having
        to know a specific inverse for it.  Servers which do not
        implement any other SRVR parameters need not implement
        SRVR N either; user processes shouldn't send SRVR N
        just for the hell of it.)

  3.  FTP-2 reshuffles reply codes somewhat.  There have been four
  attempts altogether, that I know of, at specifying a list of
  reply codes: RFCs 354 and 454 for FTP-1, and RFCs 542 and 640 for
  FTP-2. There is not much to choose from among the first three of
  these, which are basically the same, except for a slight increase
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  code 456 for a rename which fails because a file of the same
  (new) name already exists.  This increased specificity of reply
  codes doesn't seem to be much of a virtue; if a rename operation
  fails, it is the human user, not the FTP user program, who needs
  to know that it was because of a name conflict rather than some
  other file system error.  I am all for putting such information
  in the text part of FTP replies.  Some real problems are actually
  addressed in the reply code revision of RFC 640, in which the
  basic scheme for assigning reply code numbers is more rational
  than either the FTP-1 scheme or the original FTP-2 scheme.
  However, I think that most of the benefits of RFC 640 can be
  obtained in a way which does not require cataclysmic
  reprogramming.  More on this below.                                5i

  4.  FTP-2 was established by a duly constituted ARPAnet committee
  and we are duty-bound to implement it.  I don't suppose anyone
  would actually put it that baldly, but I've heard things which
  amounted to that.  It's silly.                                     5j

  5.  FTP-2 specifies default sockets for the data connection.
  Most places use the default sockets already anyway, and it is
  easy enough to ignore the 255 message if you want to.  This is a
  security issue, of course, and I'm afraid that I can't work up
  much excitement about helping the CIA keep track of what anti-war
  demonstrations I attended in 1968 and which Vietnamese hamlets to
  bomb for the greatest strategic effect even if they do pay my
  salary indirectly.  I could rave about this subject for pages,
  and probably will if I ever get around to writing an argument
  against MAIL-2, but for now let me just get one anecdote off my
  chest:  I have access to an account at an ARPAnet host because I
  am responsible at my own site for local maintenance of a program
  which was written by, and is maintained by, someone at the other
  site.  However, the other site doesn't really trust us outsiders
  (the account is shared by people in my position at several other
  hosts) to protect their vital system security, so every week they
  run a computer program to generate a new random password for the
  account (last week's was HRHPUK) and notify us all by network
  mail.  Well, on my system and at least one of the others, that
  mail isn't read protected.  I delete my mail when I read it, but
  since it is hard enough remembering HRHPUK without them changing
  it every week, I naturally write it in a file on our system.
  That file could in principle be read protected but it isn't,
  since sometimes I'm in someone else's office when I want to use





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  it, and the other passwords in it are for open guest accounts
  which are widely known.  Moral #1: Security freaks are pretty
  weird.  Moral #2: If you have a secret don't keep it on the
  ARPAnet.  (In the past week I have heard about two newly
  discovered holes in TENEX security.)                               5k

  6.  FTP-2 is available online and FTP-1 isn't, so new hosts can't
  find out how to do it.  Aargh!!!  What a reason for doing
  anything! Surely it would be less costly for someone to type it
  in again than for everyone to reprogram.  Meanwhile these new
  hosts can ask Jon or Geoff or Bobby or even me for help in
  getting FTP up.                                                    5l

  7.  FTP-2 has some changes to the strange MODEs and STRUs.  This
  is another thing I can't get too excited about.  We support only
  MODE S and STRU F and that will probably still be true even if we
  are forced into FTP-2.  If the relatively few people who do very
  large file transfers need to improve the restart capability, they
  can do so within FTP-1 without impacting the rest of us.  The
  recent implementation of paged file transfers by TENEX shows that
  problems of individual systems can be solved within the FTP-1
  framework. If the IBM people have some problem about record
  structure in FTP-1, for example, let them solve it in FTP-1, and
  whatever the solution is, nobody who isn't affected has to
  reprogram.                                                         5m

Well, to sum up, I am pretty happy with the success I've had
transferring files around the network the way things are.  When I do
run into trouble it's generally because some particular host hasn't
implemented some particular feature of FTP-1, and there's no reason
to suppose they'll do it any faster if they also have to convert to
FTP-2 at the same time.  The main thing about FTP-2, as I said at
the beginning, is that its existence is an excuse for not solving
problems in FTP-1.  Some such problems are quite trivial except for
the fact that people are reluctant to go against anything in the
protocol document, as if the latter were the Holy Writ.  A few
actually require some coordinated effort.  Here is my problem list:    6

  1.  It is almost true that an FTP user program can understand
  reply codes by the following simple algorithm:                     6a

     a. Replies starting with 0 or 1 should be typed out and
     otherwise ignored.                                             6a1





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     b. Replies starting with 2 indicate success (of this step or
     of the whole operation, depending on the command).             6a2

     c. Replies starting with 4 or 5 indicate failure of the
     command.                                                       6a3

     d. Replies starting with 3 are only recognized in three cases:
     the initial 300 message, the 330 password request, and the
     350 MAIL response.  (Note that the user program need not
     distinguish which 300 message it got, merely whether or not it
     is expecting one right now.)                                   6a4

  The only real problem with this, aside from bugs in a few servers
  whose maintainers tell me they're working on it, is the HELP
  command, which is not in the original protocol and which returns
  0xx, 1xx, or 2xx depending on the server.  (Sometimes more than
  one message is returned.) The word from one network protocol
  expert at BBN is that (a) 050 or 030 is the correct response to
  HELP, and (b) there is a perfectly good mechanism in the protocol
  for multi-line responses.  Unfortunately this does not do much
  good in dealing with reality.  There seems to be a uniform
  procedure for handling the STAT command:                           6b

     151 information
     151 information
     151 ...
     151 information
     200 END OF STATUS                                              6b1

  which fits right in with the above algorithm.  This is despite
  the fact that 1xx is supposed to constitute a positive response
  to a command like STAT, so that according to RFC 354 it ought to
  be                                                                 6c

     151-information
     information
     ...
     151 information                                                6c1

  instead.  RFC 414, which approves of the 200 reply for STAT, also
  gives 200 for HELP.  (It seems to me, by the way, that 050 and
  030 aren't good enough as responses to HELP since they
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  the HELP command and thus don't tell the user program when it
  ought to ask the human user what to do next.)  I suggest that,
  despite RFC 354, a 200 response be given by all servers at the
  end of whatever other HELP it gives as of, let's say, June 1.
  The alternatives are either to let the current rather chaotic
  situation continue forever while waiting for FTP-2, or to try to
  standardize everyone on a multi-line 1xx for both HELP and STAT.
  I'm against changing STAT, which works perfectly for everyone as
  far as I can tell, and it should be clear that I'm against
  waiting for FTP-2.  Unfortunately there is no real mechanism for
  "officially" adopting my plan, but I bet if TENEX does it on June
  1 the rest of the world will come along.                           6d

  2.  Another reply code problem is the use of 9xx for
  "experimental" replies not in the protocol.  This includes the
  BBN mail-forwarding message and one other that I know of.  This
  procedure is sanctioned by RFC 385, but it seems like a bad idea
  to me.  For one thing, the user program has no way of knowing
  whether the reply is positive, negative, or irrelevant.  The
  examples I've been burned by all should have been 0xx messages.
  I propose that all such messages be given codes in the 000-599
  range, chosen to fit the scheme given above for interpreting
  reply codes.  x9x or xx9 could be used to indicate experiments.    6e

  3.  One more on reply codes: RFC 630 (the one about the TENEX mod
  to the reply codes for MAIL and MLFL) raises the issue of
  "temporary" versus "permanent" failures within the 4xx category.
  RFC 640 deals with this question in the FTP-2 context by changing
  the meaning of 4xx and 5xx so that the former are for temporary
  errors and the latter are for permanent errors.  I like this
  idea, and I think it could easily be adapted for FTP-1 use in a
  way which would allow people to ignore the change and still win.
  At present, I believe that the only program which attempts to
  distinguish between temporary and permanent errors is the TENEX
  mailer.  For other programs, no distinction is currently made
  between 4xx and 5xx responses; both indicate failure, and any
  retrials are done by the human user based on the text part of the
  message.  A specific set of changes to the reply codes is
  proposed below.                                                    6f

  Perhaps I should make a few more points about RFC 640, since it's
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  all convincing.  Let me try to pick out the virtues of 640 and
  indicate how they might be achieved in FTP-1.                      6g

     a.  The 3xx category is used uniformly for "positive
     intermediate replies" where further negotiation in the Telnet
     connection is required, as for RNFR.  I'm afraid this one
     can't be changed without affecting existing user programs.
     (One of my goals here is to enable existing user programs to
     work while some servers continue as now and others adopt the
     suggestions I make below.) However, although this 3xx idea is
     logically pleasing, it is not really necessary for a
     simple-minded user program to be able to interpret replies.
     The only really new 3xx in RFC 640 is the 350 code for RNFR.
     But this would only be a real
     improvement for the user program if there were also a 2xx code
     which might be returned after RNFR, which is not the case.
     640 also abolishes the 300 initial connection message with
     220, but again there is clearly no conflict here.              6g1

     b.  The use of 1xx is expanded to include what is now the 250
     code for the beginning of a file transfer.  The idea is that a
     1xx message doesn't affect the state of the user process, but
     this is not really true.  Consider the file transfer commands.
     The state diagram on page 13 of RFC 640 is slightly
     misleading. It appears as if 1xx replies are simply ignored by
     the user program.  In reality, that little loop hides a lot of
     work: the file transfer itself!  If the server replied to the
     file transfer command immediately with a 2xx message, it would
     be a bug in the server, not a successful transfer.  The real
     state diagram is more like                                     6g2

        B --> cmd --> W --> 1 --> W --> 2 --> S

     (with branches out from the "W"s for bad replies).  It should
     be clear from this diagram that the user program, if it trusts
     the server to know what it's doing, can expect a 2xx instead
     of the 1xx without getting confused, since it knows which of
     the W states it's in.  In fact, the use of 1xx in file
     transfer is very different from its other uses, which are
     indeed more like the 0xx and 1xx replies in FTP-1.  I'd call
     this particular point a bug in RFC 640.                        6g3

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     whether to queue or abandon an unsuccessful transfer based on
     the distinction between 4xx and 5xx codes.  I like this
     idea, although those temporary errors virtually never happen
     in real life.  This could be accomplished in FTP-1 by moving
     many of the 4xx replies to 5xx.  Mailers would be modified to
     use the first digit to decide whether or not to retry.  This
     scheme does not cause any catastrophes if some server is slow
     in converting; it merely leads to unnecessary retries.  A few
     CPU cycles would be wasted in the month following the official
     switch.  Thus, this feature is very different from (a) and
     (b), which could lead to catastrophic failures if not
     implemented all at once.  (Yes, I know that FTP-2 is supposed
     to be done on a different ICP socket.  I am not discussing
     FTP-2 but whether its virtues can be transferred to FTP-1.)
     The specific codes involved are listed below.                  6g4

     d.  The use of the second digit to indicate the type of
     message.  (The proposed division is not totally clean;
     for example, why is 150 ("file status okay; about to open
     data connection") considered to be more about the file
     system than about the data connection?)  This can easily
     be done, since the second digit is not currently important
     to any user process--the TENEX mailer is, in this plan,
     already due for modification because of (c).  Since this
     is mostly an aesthetic point, I'm hesitant to do it if it
     would be difficult for anyone.  In particular, I would want to
     leave the 25x messages alone, in case some user programs
     distinguish these.  This is especially likely for the ones
     which are entirely meant for the program: 251 and 255.
     Therefore I propose that if this idea is adopted in FTP-1
     the meanings of x2x and x5x be interchanged.  This proposal is
     reflected in the specific list below.                          6g5

Let me summarize the specific changes to FTP-1 I'd like to see made,
most of which are merely documentation changes to reflect reality:     7

  1.  HELP should return 200.  All commands should return 2xx if
  successful, and I believe all do except HELP.                      7a

  2.  The definition of 1xx messages should be changed to read:
  "Informative replies to status inquiries.  These constitute
  neither a positive nor a negative acknowledgment."                 7b






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  3.  Experimental reply codes should be of the form x9x or xx9,
  where the first digit is chosen to reflect the significance of
  the reply to automated user programs.  Reply codes greater than
  599 are not permitted.  The xx9 form should be used if the reply
  falls into one of the existing categories for the second digit.
  User programs are encouraged to determine the significance of the
  reply from the first digit, rather than requiring a specific
  reply code, when possible.                                         7c

  4.  The STAT command with no argument is considered a request for
  a directory listing for the current working directory, except
  that it may be given along with TELNET SYNCH while a transfer is
  in progress, in which case it is a request for the status of that
  transfer.  (Everyone seems to do the first part of this.  I'm not
  sure if anyone actually implements the second.  This is just
  getting the protocol to agree with reality.)  The reply to a STAT
  command should be zero or more 1xx messages followed by a 200.     7d

  5.  TYPEs P and F mean that the source file contains ASA control
  characters and that the recipient program should reformat it if
  necessary.  Servers which care about Telnet-print vs. non-print
  should implement SRVR T and SRVR N.  All user processes should
  provide a way for the human user to specify an arbitrary SRVR
  command.                                                           7e

  6.  (This is just a resolution of a loose end in documentation.)
  Nested reply codes are not allowed.  I don't think this really
  needs more discussion; they never happen and can't possibly work,
  and FTP user programs shouldn't have to worry about them.          7f

  Here is a list of the current FTP-1 replies, and how they should
  be renumbered for the new scheme.  The changes from 4xx to 5xx
  should be REQUIRED as of June 1; changes in the second or third
  digit are not so important.  (As explained above, it will not be
  catastrophic even if some hosts do not meet the requirement.) The
  list also contains one new possible reply adapted from RFC 640.
  Replies invented in RFC 454 are so noted; since some of them are
  for commands largely not implemented like REIN, they may be
  irrelevant.                                                        7g

     OLD   NEW   TEXT
                                                                    7g1
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                 important.  Servers should use their judgment.)
     100   110   System status reply.  (Since nobody does STAT as
     in
                 the protocol, this may be a moot point.)
     110   111   System busy doing...  (This RFC 454 message could
                 easily be considered an example of the one above,
                 but since the 454 authors want to distinguish it,
                 here it is in another number.)
     150   150   "File status reply."  (If this were really that,
     it
                 would be switched to 120, but I believe what is
     meant
                 is the response to a bare STAT in mid-transfer,
     which
                 is more a connection status reply than a file
     status
                 reply.)
     151   121   Directory listing reply.
     200   200   Last command ok.
     201   251   ABOR ok.                                           7g2
     202   252   ABOR ignored, no transfer in progress.
     new   206   Command ignored, superfluous here.
     230   230   Login complete.
     231   231   Logout complete.  (RFC 454: Closing connection.)
     232   232   Logout command will be processed when transfer is
                 complete.                                          7g3
     233   233   Logout complete, parameters reinitialized.  (RFC
     454               for REIN)                                    7g4
     250   250   Transfer started correctly.
     251   251   MARK yyyy = mmmm
     252   252   Transfer completed ok.
     253   223   Rename ok.
     254   224   Delete ok.
     255   255   SOCK nnnn
     256   256   Mail completed ok.
     300   300   Connection greeting
     301   301   Command incomplete (no crlf)
     330   330   Enter password                                     7g5
     331   331   Enter account (RFC 454)
     350   350   Enter mail.                                        7g6
     400   huh?  "This service not implemented."  I don't
     understand
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     FTP
                 at all, who gave the message?  Flush.              7g7
     401   451   Service not accepting users now, goodbye.
     430   430   Foo, you are a password hacker!
     431   531   Invalid user or password.
     432   532   User invalid for this service.
     433   533   Need account to write files.
     434   454   Logout by operator.
     435   455   Logout by system.
     436   456   Service shutting down.
     450   520   File not found.
     451   521   Access denied.
     452   452   Transfer incomplete, connection closed.            7g8
     453   423   Transfer incomplete, insufficient storage space.
     454   454   Can't connect to your socket.
     455   425   Random file system error (RFC 454)                 7g9
     456   526   Name duplication, rename failed (RFC 454)
     457   557   Bad transfer parameters (TYPE, BYTE, etc) (RFC
     454)
     500   500   Command gibberish.
     501   501   Argument gibberish.
     502   502   Argument missing.
     503   503   Arguments conflict.
     504   504   You can't get there from here.
     505   505   Command conflicts with previous command.
     506   506   Action not implemented.
     507   507   Some other problem.  (RFC 454)
     550   520   Bad syntax in pathname.  (RFC454)                 7g10




















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