Network Working Group                                         G. Fishman
Request for Comments: 3356                             Bell Laboratories
Obsoletes: 2436                                               S. Bradner
Category: Informational                               Harvard University
                                                            August 2002

          Internet Engineering Task Force and International
            Telecommunication Union - Telecommunications
           Standardization Sector Collaboration Guidelines

Status of this Memo

  This memo provides information for the Internet community.  It does
  not specify an Internet standard of any kind.  Distribution of this
  memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

  Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2002).  All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

  This document provides guidance to aid in the understanding of
  collaboration on standards development between the International
  Telecommunication Union -- Telecommunication Standardization Sector
  (ITU-T) and the Internet Society (ISOC) / Internet Engineering Task
  Force (IETF).  It is an update of and obsoletes RFC 2436.  The
  updates reflect changes in the IETF and ITU-T since RFC 2436 was
  written.  The bulk of this document is common text with ITU-T
  Supplement 3 to the ITU-T A-Series Recommendations.

  Note:  This was approved by ITU-T TSAG on 30 November 2001 as a
  Supplement to the ITU-T A-Series of Recommendations (will be numbered
  as A-Series Supplement 3).

Table of Contents

  1.  Scope...........................................................2
  2.  Introduction ...................................................2
  3.  Guidance on collaboration.......................................3
  3.1 How to interact on ITU-T or IETF work items.....................3
  3.2 Representation..................................................4
  3.3 Document sharing................................................7
  3.4 Simple cross referencing........................................8
  3.5 Additional items................................................8
  4.  Security Considerations........................................10
  5.  Non-normative references.......................................10
  6.  Acknowledgements...............................................10



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  7.  Changes since RFC 2436.........................................10
  8.  Author's addresses.............................................11
  9.  Full Copyright Statement.......................................12

1. Scope

  This document provides guidance to aid in the understanding of
  collaboration on standards development between the ITU-T and the
  Internet Society (ISOC) / Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF).

  In the IETF, work is done in Working Groups (WG), mostly through
  open, public mailing lists rather than face-to-face meetings.  WGs
  are organized into Areas, each Area being managed by two co-Area
  Directors.  Collectively, the Area Directors comprise the Internet
  Engineering Steering Group (IESG).

  In the ITU-T, work is defined by study Questions which are worked on
  mostly through meetings led by Rapporteurs.  Questions are generally
  grouped within Working Parties (WPs) led by a WP Chairman.  Working
  Parties report to a parent Study Group led by a SG Chairman.

2. Introduction

  The telecommunication industry is faced with an explosion in growth
  of the Internet and other IP (Internet Protocol) based networks.
  Operators, manufacturers and software/application providers alike are
  reconsidering their business directions and Standards Development
  Organizations and Forums and Consortia are facing an immense
  challenge to address this situation.

  These challenges were considered by TSAG in September 1998 and IETF
  shortly thereafter, when it was initially recognized that the ITU-T
  and ISOC/IETF were already collaborating in a number of areas, and
  that this collaboration must be strengthened within the context of
  changes in work emphasis and direction within the ITU-T on studies
  related to IP based networks.

  For example, many Study Groups already address aspects of IP based
  networks.  There are many topics of interest to ITU-T Study Groups in
  the IP area that should be investigated (e.g., signaling, routing,
  security, numbering & addressing, integrated management, performance,
  IP - telecom interworking, access).  Since many of these topics are
  also being investigated by the IETF, there is a requirement for close
  collaboration.







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  The current level of cooperation between the ITU-T and the IETF
  should be built upon to ensure that the competence and experience of
  each organization is brought to bear in the most effective manner and
  in collaboration with the other.  This document provides guidelines
  for collaboration between the ITU-T and the IETF.

3. Guidance on Collaboration

  This section builds on existing collaborative processes and details
  some of the more important guidance points that each organization
  should be aware of for effective collaboration.

3.1 How to Interact on ITU-T or IETF Work Items

  Study Groups that have identified work topics that are IP-related
  should evaluate the relationship with topics defined in the IETF.
  Current IETF Working Groups and their charters (IETF definition of
  the scope of work) are listed in the IETF archives (see section 3.5).

  A Study Group may decide that development of a Recommendation on a
  particular topic may benefit from collaboration with the IETF.  The
  Study Group should identify this collaboration in its work plan
  (specifically in that of each Question involved), describing the goal
  of the collaboration and its expected outcome.

  An IETF Working Group should also evaluate and identify areas of
  relationship with the ITU-T and document the collaboration with the
  ITU-T Study Group in its charter.  The following sections outline a
  process that can be used to enable each group to learn about the
  other's new work items.

3.1.1 How the ITU-T Learns About Existing IETF Work Items

  The responsibility is on individual Study Groups to review the
  current IETF Working Groups to determine if there are any topics of
  mutual interest.  Should a Study Group believe that there is an
  opportunity for collaboration on a topic of mutual interest, it
  should contact both the IETF Working Group Chair and the Area
  Director(s) responsible.

3.1.2 How the ITU-T learns about proposed new IETF work items

  The IETF maintains a mailing list for the distribution of proposed
  new work items among standards development organizations.  The IETF
  forwards draft charters for all new and revised Working Groups and
  Birds Of a Feather session announcements to the IETF NewWork mailing
  list.  An ITU-T mail exploder is subscribed to this list.  It is
  recommended that each Study Group subscribe to this ITU-T exploder,



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  which is maintained by the TSB.  Members of the SG-specific listname
  may include the SG Chairman, SG Vice Chairmen, Working Party
  Chairmen, concerned Rapporteurs, other experts designated by the SG
  and the SG Counselor.  This will enable the SGs to monitor the new
  work items for possible overlap or interest to their Study Group.  It
  is expected that this mailing list will see a few messages per month.
  Each SG Chairman, or designated representative, may provide comments
  on these charters by responding to the IESG mailing list at
  [email protected] clearly indicating their ITU-T position and the nature
  of their concern.  Plain-text email is preferred on the IESG mailing
  list.

  It should be noted that the IETF turnaround time for new Working
  Group charters is two weeks.  As a result, the mailing list should be
  consistently monitored.

3.1.3 How the IETF Learns About ITU-T Work Items

  The ITU-T work programme is documented in the Questions of each Study
  Group.  These can be found on the ITU-T web site.

  Study Groups should send updates to the IETF NewWork mailing list as
  they occur.  Area Directors or WG Chairs should provide comments to
  the relevant SG Chairman in cases of possible overlap or interest.

3.2 Representation

  ISOC, including its standards body IETF, is a Sector Member of the
  ITU-T.  As a result, ISOC delegates are therefore afforded the same
  rights as other ITU-T Sector Members (see 3.2.1).  Conversely, ITU-T
  delegates may participate in the work of the IETF as representatives
  of the ITU-T (see 3.2.2).  To promote collaboration it is useful to
  facilitate communication between the organizations as further
  described below.

3.2.1 IETF Recognition at ITU-T

  Participants from the IETF may participate in ITU-T meetings as ISOC
  delegates if the appropriate IETF Working Group (or Area) has
  approved their attendance.  This approval will be communicated to the
  TSB in the form of a registration for a particular ITU-T meeting by
  the IAB Chair.

3.2.2 ITU-T Recognition at ISOC/IETF

  ITU-T Study Group Chairmen can authorize one or more members to
  attend an IETF meeting as an official ITU-T delegate speaking
  authoritatively on behalf of the activities of the Study Group (or a



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  particular Rapporteur Group).  The Study Group Chairman sends the
  ITU-T list of delegates by email to the Working Group chair, with a
  copy to the Area Directors, and also to the Study Group.  Note that,
  according to IETF process, opinions expressed by any such delegate
  are given equal weight with opinions expressed by other working group
  participants.

3.2.3 Communication Contacts

  To foster ongoing communication between the ITU-T and IETF, it is
  important to identify and establish contact points within each
  organization.  Contact points may include:

  1) ITU-T Study Group Chairman and IETF Area Director

     An IETF Area Director is the individual responsible for overseeing
     a major focus of activity with a scope similar to that of an ITU-T
     Study Group Chairman.  These positions are both relatively long-
     term (of several years) and offer the stability of contact points
     between the two organizations for a given topic.

  2) ITU-T Rapporteur and IETF Working Group Chair

     An IETF Working Group Chair is an individual who is assigned to
     lead the work on a specific task within one particular Area with a
     scope similar to that of an ITU-T Rapporteur.  These positions are
     working positions (of a year or more) that typically end when the
     work on a specific topic ends.  Collaboration here is very
     beneficial to ensure the actual work gets done.

  3) Other Contact Points

     It may be beneficial to establish additional contact points for
     specific topics of mutual interest.  These contact points should
     be established early in the work effort, and in some cases the
     contact point identified by each organization may be the same
     individual.

  Note that the current IETF Area Directors and Working Group Chairs
  can be found in the IETF Working Group charters.  The current ITU-T
  Study Group Chairmen and Rapporteurs are listed on the ITU-T web
  page.

3.2.4 Communication

  Informal communication between contact points and experts of both
  organizations is encouraged.  However, note that formal communication
  from an ITU-T Study Group, Working Party or Rapporteur to an



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  associated IETF contact point must be explicitly approved and
  identified as coming from the Study Group, Working Party or
  Rapporteur Group, respectively.  Formal communication from the ITU-T
  to the IETF should be addressed to the appropriate Working Group
  Chairs and Area Directors with a copy to the email address
  "[email protected]."  These communications are placed by the IETF
  onto a liaison statements web page at
  http://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html.  An individual at the IETF is
  assigned responsibility for dealing with each communication that is
  received.  The name and contact information of the responsible person
  is listed with the links to the communications on this web page.

  Conversely, formal communication from an IETF Working Group or Area
  Director must also be explicitly approved and identified before
  forwarding to any ITU-T contact.  This approval is indicated in IETF
  communication by copying the appropriate Working Group Chairs and
  Area Directors.  Formal communication is intended to allow the
  sharing of positions between the IETF and the ITU-T outside of actual
  documents (as described in 3.3).  This would cover such things as
  comments on documents and requests for input.  The approved
  communication is simply emailed from one body contact to another (the
  appropriate mailing lists, as described in 3.2.5 may be copied).

3.2.5 Mailing Lists

  All IETF Working Groups and all ITU-T Study Group Questions have
  associated mailing lists.

  In the IETF, the mailing list is the primary vehicle for discussion
  and decision-making.  It is recommended that the ITU-T experts
  interested in particular IETF Working Group topics subscribe to and
  participate in these lists.  IETF WG mailing lists are open to all
  subscribers.  The IETF Working Group mailing list subscription and
  archive information are noted in each Working Group's charter.  In
  the ITU-T, the TSB has set up formal mailing lists for Questions,
  Working Parties and other topics within Study Groups (more detail can
  be found on the ITU website).  These mailing lists are typically used
  for discussion of ITU-T contributions.  Note that individual
  subscribers to this list must be affiliated with an ITU-T member (at
  this time, there is no blanket inclusion of all IETF participants as
  members, however, as a member, ISOC may designate representatives to
  subscribe).  Alternatively, ITU-T members operate personal mailing
  lists on various topics with no restrictions on membership (e.g.,
  IETF participants are welcome).







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3.3 Document Sharing

  During the course of ITU-T and IETF collaboration it is important to
  share working drafts and documents among the technical working
  groups.  Initially proposed concepts and specifications typically can
  be circulated by email (often just repeating the concept and not
  including the details of the specification) on both the IETF and
  ITU-T mailing lists.  In addition, working texts (or URLs) of draft
  Recommendations, Internet Drafts or RFCs may also be sent between the
  organizations as described below.

  Internet Drafts are available on the IETF web site.  The ITU-T can
  make selected ITU-T documents available in a common FTP area on the
  ITU-T web site.  Although a communication can point to a URL where a
  non-ASCII document (e.g., Word) can be downloaded, Word attachments
  to an IETF mailing list are discouraged.  It should also be
  recognized that the official version of all IETF documents are in
  ASCII.

3.3.1 IETF to ITU-T

  IETF documents (e.g., Internet Drafts) can be submitted to a Study
  Group as a Contribution from ISOC.  In order to ensure that the IETF
  has properly authorized this, the IETF Working Group must agree that
  the specific drafts are of mutual interest, that there is a benefit
  in forwarding them to the ITU-T for review, comment and potential use
  and that the document status is accurately represented in the cover
  letter.  Once agreed, the appropriate Area Directors would review the
  Working Group request and give approval.  The contributions would
  then be forwarded (with the noted approval) to the TSB for
  circulation as a Study Group Contribution (see 3.2.4).

3.3.2 ITU-T to IETF

  A Study Group or Working Party may send texts of draft new or revised
  Recommendations, clearly indicating their status, to the IETF as
  contributions in the form of Internet Drafts.  Internet Drafts are
  IETF temporary documents that expire six months after being
  published.  The Study Group or Working Party must decide that there
  is a benefit in forwarding them to the IETF for review, comment and
  potential use.  Terms of reference for Rapporteur Group meetings may
  authorize Rapporteur Groups to send working documents, in the form of
  Internet Drafts, to the IETF.

  In these cases, the document editor would be instructed to prepare
  the contribution in Internet Draft format (in ASCII and optionally
  postscript format as per [RFC2223]) and submit it to the Internet
  Draft editor (email [email protected]).  Alternatively, the



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  Study Group, Working Party or Rapporteur Group could agree to post
  the document on a web site and merely document its existence with a
  short Internet Draft that contains a summary and the document URL.
  The URL can point to a Word document as long as it is publicly
  available and with the understanding that it will not be eligible for
  publication as an RFC in that format.

  Both the Rapporteur and the Document Editor should be identified as
  contacts in the contribution.  The contribution must also clearly
  indicate that the Internet Draft is a working document of a
  particular ITU-T Study Group.

3.3.3 ITU-T & IETF

  It is envisaged that the processes of 3.3.1 & 3.3.2 will often be
  used simultaneously by both an IETF Working Group and an ITU-T Study
  Group to collaborate on a topic of mutual interest.

  It is also envisaged that the outcome of the collaboration will be
  the documentation in full by one body and its referencing by the
  other (see section 3.4 for details).  That is, common or joint text
  is discouraged because of the current differences in procedures for
  document approval and revision.  Where complementary work is being
  undertaken in both organizations that will result in Recommendations
  or RFCs, due allowance should be given to the differing perspectives,
  working methods, and procedures of the two organizations.  That is,
  each organization should understand the other organization's
  procedures and strive to respect them in the collaboration.

3.4 Simple Cross Referencing

  ITU-T Recommendation A.5 describes the process for including
  references to documents of other organizations in ITU-T
  Recommendations.  Information specific to referencing IETF RFCs is
  found at http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/sdo/ref-a.5/isocietf.html.

  IETF RFC2026, specifically section 7.1.1, describes the process for
  referencing other open standards (like ITU-T Recommendations) in IETF
  RFCs.

3.5  Additional Items

3.5.1 Several URLs to IETF procedures are provided here for information:

  RFC2223  - Instructions to RFC Authors, October 1997
     http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2223.txt





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  RFC2026  - The Internet Standards Process Revision 3, October 1996
     http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2026.txt

  RFC2418 - IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures, September
     1998 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2418.txt

  Current list and status of all IETF RFCs:
     ftp://ftp.ietf.org/rfc/rfc-index.txt

  Current list and description of all IETF Internet Drafts:
     ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/1id-abstracts.txt

  Current list of IETF Working Groups and their Charters: (includes
     Area Directors and Chair contacts, Mailing list information, etc.)
     http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html

  RFC Editor pages about publishing RFCs:
     http://www.rfc-editor.org/howtopub.html

  Current list of liaison statements:
     http://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html

  IETF Intellectual Property Rights Notices:
     http://www.ietf.org/ipr.html

3.5.2 Current ITU-T information can be found on the ITU website:
     (includes contacts, organization, Recommendations for purchase,
     mailing list info, etc.)

  ITU-T Main page: http://www.itu.int/ITU-T

  List of all ITU-T Recommendations:
     http://www.itu.int/publibase/itu-t/

  ITU-T Study Group main page for Study Group NN (where NN is the
     2-digit SG number):
     http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/comNN/index.html

  ITU-T Special Study Group on IMT-2000 and beyond:
     http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/ssg/index.html

  Intellectual Property policies, forms and databases:
     http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/dbase/patent/index.html








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  ITU-T operational matters including:
     Recommendation A.1 - Study Group work methods
     Recommendation A.2 - Preparation of written contributions
     Recommendation A.4 - Communication process between ITU-T and
     forums and consortia
     Recommendation A.5 - Include reference to documents of other
     organizations in ITU-T Recs
     Recommendation A.8 - Alternative Approval Process for
     Recommendations: http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/rec/A

  ITU T Procedures including:
     Resolution 1 - Rules of Procedure for ITU-T
     Resolution 2 - Study Group responsibility and mandates
     http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/wtsa-res/index.html

  Authors Guide for drafting ITU-T Recommendations:
     http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/guide/64657.html

  Templates for contributions:
     http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/com2/template/w2000tem/index.html

4. Security Considerations

  Documents that describe cooperation procedures, like this one does,
  have no direct Internet security implications.

5. Non-normative references

  [RFC2026] Bradner. S, " The Internet Standards Process -- Revision
            3", BCP 9, RFC 2026, October 1996.

  [RFC2223] Postel, J. and J. Reynolds, "Instructions to RFC Authors",
            RFC 2223, October 1997.

  [RFC2436] Brett, R., Bradner, S. and G. Parsons, "Collaboration
            between ISOC/IETF and ITU-T", RFC 2436, October 1998.

6. Acknowledgements

  This document is based on the text from RFC 2436 and benefited
  greatly from discussions during the November 2001 ITU-T TSAG meeting.

7. Changes since RFC 2436

  The wording has been cleaned up in a number of places, a few
  additional references have been provided, and the details of the
  cooperation process have been modified slightly.




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  Sec 3.2.1 - Registration for IETF representatives to ITU-T meetings
     is now done by IAB Chair instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.
  Sec 3.2.2 - Notice of ITU-T delegates to IETF Working Group meetings
     is now sent to the Working Group chairs and appropriate Area
     Directors instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.
  Sec 3.2.4 - Official communications from the ITU-T to the IETF now
     are sent to the appropriate Working Group Chairs and Area
     Directors with a copy to the email address "[email protected]"
     instead of to the ISOC VP for Standards.  A description of the new
     IETF liaison statements web page was added.  Official approval of
     messages from the IETF to the ITU-T is now indicated by having the
     appropriate Working Group Chairs and Area Directors copied on the
     message.
  Sec 3.3 - A description of the new ITU-T common FTP area was added.
  Sec 3.3.1 - The appropriate Area Directors now review documents to be
     sent to the ITU-T instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.
  Annex A was removed as unneeded.

8. Author's addresses

  Gary Fishman
  Bell Laboratories
  101 Crawfords Corner Road
  Room 4D-605B
  Holmdel, NJ 07733-3030
  USA
  +1 732 949 3401
  EMail: [email protected]


  Scott Bradner
  Harvard University
  29 Oxford St.
  Cambridge MA 02138
  USA
  +1 617 495 3864
  EMail: [email protected]














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9.  Full Copyright Statement

  Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2002).  All Rights Reserved.

  This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to
  others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it
  or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published
  and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any
  kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are
  included on all such copies and derivative works.  However, this
  document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing
  the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other
  Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of
  developing Internet standards in which case the procedures for
  copyrights defined in the Internet Standards process must be
  followed, or as required to translate it into languages other than
  English.

  The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be
  revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns.

  This document and the information contained herein is provided on an
  "AS IS" basis and THE INTERNET SOCIETY AND THE INTERNET ENGINEERING
  TASK FORCE DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING
  BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION
  HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
  MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Acknowledgement

  Funding for the RFC Editor function is currently provided by the
  Internet Society.



















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