From: [email protected] (Eric Burger)
Subject: SUMMARY: Local-and Ethertalk same time (A)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 10:29:13 -0400 (EDT)

It turns out that the solution for us is to use our existing
GatorBox, and let the GatorBox route to the printer.  I can't
tell if it's slower.  We won't be re-wiring, so if the GatorBox
does go out, we can always go back to switching the interface.

Thanks to:
       [email protected]
       [email protected] (Peter Boulton)
       RICHARD LIM <[email protected]>
       [email protected] (Miedreich Frank Hiwi)
       Graeme Forbes <[email protected]>

The original posting and responses follow.

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Original Posting:
>We've got a bunch of Mac's connected together with both Ethertalk
>and Localtalk.  The Mac's also communicate with Sun's over TCP/IP.
>The Mac's run MacOS 6.0.7, 7.0.1, and 7.1 .
>
>We also have a LaserWriter connected through LocalTalk, with a
>GatorBox supplying lpd access to the LaserWriter for the Sun's.
>
>Is there a way, from the Mac, to set our networking to Ethertalk
>for AppleShare, but use LocalTalk for printing?  If I set Networking
>to EtherTalk, then the Chooser doesn't see the printer.  If I set
>Networking to LocalTalk, then the AppleShare connection goes over
>LocalTalk as well.
>
>What to do?

Glenn Souther writes:
> No, this can't be done. (With the exception of running Apple's Internet
> Router on every machine, or the equivalent)  However, the Gatorbox
> can be configured to be a router.  This was the original use of the
> Gatorbox. All Appletalk goes onto the ethernet, and the gatorbox
> rebroadcasts the relevant printer packets back and forth to the local
> -talk.

Mark Haidl writes:
> You can software called LaserBridge from Sonic Systems which you
> install on a mac which is on ethernet and also connected through
> localtalk to the laserwriter. LaserBridge routes printer
> traffic from ethertalk to localtalk so everyone can see the
> printer.
>
> Sonic Systems, Inc.     Mac boot roms & LaserBridge software
> 333 W. El Camino Real
> Suite 280           Phone:  (408) 736-1900
> Sunnyvale, CA 94087     Fax:    (408) 736-7228

Peter Boulton writes:
> I am running from such a system now (Quadra 700, system 7.0.1, ethertalk to
> internet, local talk to a laserwriter)
>
> You buy 'Powerpath' from Farallon (About $75) if all you want is a printer.
> You buy 'LocalPath' from Farallon (About $150) if you want a full localtalk
> net (max of 8 devices).
> Ethernet connection is set up as usual.
>
> I use PowerPath.  Works like a charm.

Richard Lim writes:
> Macs don't do this without third-party software.  Look out for things like
> Farallon Liaison and SoftSync's various bridge programs (LaserBridge,
> SuperBridge etc) in any Mac magazine or catalog

Miedreich Frank Hiwi writes:
> Hi Eric
> I just read your question in the digest newsgroup
>
> Our solution was using Farallon PowerPath. It lets you connect 1 LocalTalk
> device to an existing Ethernet. The Machine the LocalTalk device is connected
> to must always be running (while you want access to the device from other
> machines). If the device is a printer, and somebody starts a printjob,
> you will get some jerky movements of the mouse, and some very short delays (<1sec) over
> some time. There are hardware solutions, but these tend to be expensive,
> while PowerPath costs only about $150.
> There is another product (LocalPath) to connect up to 8 LocalTalk devices,
> I have no experience using this one.
>
> PowerPath runs stable, it is a cdev, and there is only one problem known to me.
> Occasionally, if you turn of the Mac, and PowerPath is running, you do not get
> the warning dialog that other users are connected to this Macintosh.
> Turning PowerPath off, restarting, turning it on again and restarting solves
> the problem. It happend to me once, after the installation. Since then no
> problems. I am satisfied.

Graeme Forbes writes:
> So far as I know it can't be done - you have to keep switching your
> network.
>
> I would *love* to find out that I'm wrong about this. Please summarize
> to the digest or forward to me if I am.

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